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Thrustmaster T150 – ISR Review

The guys over at InsideSimRacing.tv have put Thrustmaster’s brand new T150 wheel through a full review.

The guys over at InsideSimRacing.tv have put Thrustmaster’s brand new T150 wheel through a full review.

11″ in diameter, the wheel rim features 13 action buttons, a D-Pad, the mandatory Playstation 4 buttons and the two large, 100% metal wheel-mounted sequential paddle shifters (5” tall).

Despite being designed to appeal to customers on a budget, the wheel comes with impressive technical specs, featuring 1080 degrees of rotation that is fully adjustable down to 270 degrees. The T150 comes optical position reading with 12-bit resolution (4096 values on the wheel’s steering axis); mixed belt-pulley and gears transmission system and metal ball-bearing axle that should result both in a solid built and precision.

Also included is a two-pedal pedal set with progressive resistance on the brake pedal, the wheel is fully compatible to Thrustmaster’s eco-system, allowing sim racers to use the optionally-available  T3PA or T3PA-PRO 3 pedal sets if they wish.

The T150 retails for 199 Euros/Dollars, more info on the wheel is available here.

  • LogiForce

    So it’s a G29 killer? Not bad, Thrustmaster.

    Also wasn’t Fanatec working on a new entry level wheel or something along those lines? I thought Thomas mentioned this a while back with the introduction of the latest Clubsport line stuff.
    In any case, if they do… it will be interesting to see how it stacks up to good competition as for example this T150 wheel.

    • Betta Lines

      G29 killer in terms of performance? Nope.

      G29 killer in terms of the way they’ve positioned it in the market combined with the various ecosystem options? Perhaps you can make a case for it there, but the wheel base is still an obvious step below G29/920 quality (and G27 for that matter).

      • LogiForce

        It’s not my case to defend but that of ISR. I never touched either wheel, so I have no clue of the performance of either.
        My last Logitech was a G25 and than I got a T500, which was replaced by a CSWv1 and currently a CSWv2.
        So yeah, I am not really the target audience either that will purchase either of these wheels.

        Personally I felt that the G25 wasn’t all that great with the deadzone, which my Logitech Wingman Formula Force GP did not have at all. Which also was a gear driven wheel with 270 degrees of rotation (instead of 900 for the G25). In fact I once grabbed both for testing purposes and found that the Wingman FF GP had better feedback than my G25 in games like Project CARS and Assetto Corsa.

        In short what I am getting to is the fact that the T150 doesn’t have a deadzone issue like Logitech’s G-series of wheels. Which really improves the feedback you get, because you’re driving in a straight line a lot during a race. Plus not only that but also the fact that during corner transitions from left to right hand you wish to feel a continues weight/feedback, and a deadzone at center doesn’t aid in that.

        If I had to choose a wheel and could buy it in the shop and compare, than knowing this fact and depending on how the wheel feels in the shop I think I might be more tempted to pick up a Thrustmaster than a Logitech.

      • Betta Lines

        How do you know the T150 doesn’t have a deadzone issue? There is a clear deadzone on the one in front of me.

      • LogiForce

        Maybe because a couple of dudes in a video on youtube, that is posted on this page if you scroll back up, have mentioned this at the end.

        If that’s not the case… sucks to have bought a horrible wheel like that. I know how it feels cause I bought a G25 once in my life after all, even though it was praised high and low at the time by the community.
        Luckily we now have better things available, unlike back then. So at least it leaves room for a Christmas present for those in need of an upgrade. :p

      • Betta Lines

        Ah. I didn’t make it to the end… I kinda stopped watching when they said it is comparable to a G29. I’ll make a vid soon.

        I’m not saying it’s a horrible wheel btw. On the contrary, it is a good entry-level wheel. But we’re talking DFGT equivalent with small improvements in some areas.

      • LogiForce

        Ah ok. Remind me when the video is up. 🙂

        Oh, I see. So it has that little torque (and thus dynamic range) as a DFGT. Which is similar to the FFGT I have from what I experienced in one of those GT6 rigs in the local shop.
        Good entry indeed and that’s about it.

        At least compared to a DFGT you can get some really fancy gear to plug into it from Thrustmaster themselves.
        Besides, didn’t they start to sell separate wheel bases like Fanatec as well? I think it was the TX or T300 base that’s sold separately now as well.

      • Betta Lines

        That’s correct, the TX is being sold separately, as well as in a new bundle with the Leather 28 rim and T3PA pedals.

      • Darin Gangi

        The FFB deadzone is minimal at best compared to the G29 or G27. We mention more than once that this is a great entry level wheel and not once mention “it’s a G29 killer”.

        I also compared it directly to a DFGT and said that since it’s no longer on the market, it fills that void. But you stopped watching for some reason to come here and debunk our video.

        I guess you’re the expert though since “you’ll make a video soon”.

      • Betta Lines

        Hi Darin.

        My comments in this thread were in response to the two comments that were sitting here, not to your video. I wasn’t ‘debunking’ your video, only replying to two individuals who have been given the wrong impression. The first said “far better than a G29” and the second said “so it’s a G29 killer?”

        If your video had been clearer about where the T150 sits relative to other wheels, it seems unlikely that these two comments would’ve been posted.

      • Darin Gangi

        If you watch the full video, you will see we were very clear about where this wheel comes into the market. I specifically state that it fills the void that the DFGT left.

        As someone that makes videos, you should know how people take things out of context and this is a perfect case of it.

        Not sure how many more times we had to say “this is a great entry level wheel”.

  • Babis Rataplan

    By far better than G29 , I already have Momo ,DFGT,G27 , and I have to say Logitech lost me. G27 was a good choice for PC users than want something cheap with H shifter and good pedals. The only problem with T300,TX,T150 are the weight of the pedals they are sliding all over the place 🙁

    • Betta Lines

      Far better than a G29? Either you’re incorrect or I have a defective unit. I’d put this just above DFGT level. Even if you ignore the pedals, the G29 is smoother and higher quality in every area.

      • JES

        G29 is anything but smooth (my neighbours would agree). AFAIK it uses exactly the same helical gears as G27, so whenever you run offfroad or on bumps there is a huge rattling noise due to the gap in the gears. G25 was actually less noisy in this sense and I can’t imagine T150 being possible worse.

      • Betta Lines

        You’re right that the G27/29/920 have the same helical gearing. And yes, you get rattles on bumps. But at all other times, it is smoother than the straight cut gears of a G25, DFGT, and the T150 (despite it using a belt too). It is the ‘cogging’ that is the problem with all of those wheels, that is partially solved with helical gearing, making for smoother steering feel, at the expense of the rattles.

      • Babis Rataplan

        True G27 is smoother than DFGT, when turning the wheel on dampening andundersteer oversteer , but the deadzone its there, DFGT doesn’t feel like it has deadzone. my DFGT is much older , G27 its only 1.5 year old. G27 its great when it pulls my hand on one side, but when it change directions fast like kerbs for example it doesn’t feel smooth.

      • Babis Rataplan

        Hmmm I have to trust you, I follow your post and youtube videos a long time , and I am sure that you know better than me .
        But it would be nice to make a video comparison on you channel , because Yes my G27 is more silent than DFGT and MOMO but DFGT doesn’t have this deadzone and doesn’t rattling.
        Now I use T300RS and G27 at the same time both and I have to say G27 is nice when I lower a lot the ffb effects, in some games for example Dirt rally G27 feels better because this rattling feels like real life, T300RS in Dirt Rally and I use your settings, Feels ok on tarmac but strange on dirt. Also FW cars like Ibiza on tarmac the pull the wheel a lot not like all the other 4W cars.
        In the end all I want to say is that they say G29 its the same as G27 and T150 is like T300RS if that’s true , then I feel like T150 is better than G29, I will have to wait to see what you think. Because I was ready to buy a T150 to replace G27.

      • Betta Lines

        Yeah I’ll try to make some hardware vids soon. I understand what you mean about the G27 deadzone vs a DFGT, but that’s not to say that the DFGT has no deadzone – it definitely has a deadzone too, perhaps less noticeable due to the gearing. The other point you make is that you’ve been given the impression that the T150 is like the T300. This is absolutely not the case. The T300 is a great wheel, and I’d rate the steering/FFB mechanism above the G29/920. The T150 is a very clear step down from the T300, being weaker, noisier, more ‘notchy’, and simply less convincing all round. It’s not bad by any means, but if you expect a G27 or T300-like experience from a T150 you might be a little underwhelmed.

      • Babis Rataplan

        Oh really ? I thought that t150 was close to T300 … All the reviewers give me this impression. Ok then I will wait for a video of you, or to try for my self this T150 wheel. I will stay with T300RS and G27 for the moment. Thanks for your time .

      • Betta Lines

        Yes I’m surprised that reviewers are making this comparison! Thanks for following 🙂

      • Babis Rataplan

        Thanks for solving a lot of my problems without you knowing it 🙂

      • Babis Rataplan

        Off topic. I am using the PS rim on my T300RS and I was thinking updating to 599XX EVO 30 alcantara rim because of the 30 cm and the feel of the alcantara , Do you think that its a good choice ?

      • Betta Lines

        I’ve yet to try the Alcantara rim, so I can’t give you a full answer to that, but it certainly looks great. I don’t know if you noticed on some of my vids, my T500 rim is wrapped in an Alcantara-like material (not very well, as I did it myself!). I’ve tried this rim on a T300 base (have to use buttons or an H-shifter because it has no paddles) to approximate the feel of the 599XX rim, and it works well. My only concern is the weight, as the Alcantara plus integrated paddles makes for a lot of material for the motor to deal with. But the Leather 28 does ok attached to a T300, and I don’t think it is too much heavier than that.

      • Babis Rataplan

        I cant find the video with your T500 in alcantara, I am on your youtube channel and I don’t see it can you help me ?
        I see that you have make some tests on R3E VR, that’s nice . Have you notice a strange problem with Thrustmaster profiler keeps reseting the degrees of rotation from default 900, to the last car that we run on R3E ? For example when I use GT cars with 600 degrees every time I am exiting the game it keeps changing it to THrustmaster profiler. This happens only on R3E the last 1 month.

      • Betta Lines

        I’ve not done a specific video about it, as it not very good! A few people have spotted it in vids.. I need to find the time to do a better version. I seem to remember it appears on my ‘Drifting in VR’ vid.

        As for R3E, I’ve not noticed to be honest, I’ve been busy testing other hardware. There was a major physics update recently and the FFB is still being worked on… I guess it’s a bug relating to that.

  • Betta Lines

    The two people who commented on here got the wrong impression, and I would have found it confusing too, had I not already tested the wheel, which is why I replied to them. The evidence is in front of you in this comments section – there was room for misinterpretation.

    You have misquoted yourself. You did not say “For the price…”. You simply say, when referring to the G29, “I’d say it gives that a run for its money”. That phrase can easily be interpreted as describing the T150 to be “as good as” or “similar to” the G29, and no, you don’t need to be a “fanboy or hater”. That is a standard meaning for that phrase.

    No, I’m not here to say you don’t know what you’re talking about. You make several statements about the T150 being a great entry-level wheel and compare it to the DFGT, all of which I agree with. But that “run for its money” phrase stands out because it can be interpreted as contradicting the other statements. And by finishing the video with the bit about less deadzone compared to a G29 can be taken as reinforcing the “run for its money” idea. I know this wasn’t your intention, but I suspect a fair number of viewers left this video with the impression that the T150 is as good as – if not better than – a G29.

  • ASUSNEX

    I left the Logitech G27 when I thought I should go multiplatform (PC and XBOX)
    an bought a Thrustmaster TX. Expensive when you uppgrade to a shifter and pedals for manual shifting. God FFB ( a step above Logitech) but their main concern is the reability. They are not even close to a a Logitech Wheel and mine
    gave upp after 7 months. If you are a simracer that have to drive a couple
    off times in a week you dont want to lose your Wheel for a couple off
    weeks for repairs.This is a wery important factor that not many think off.
    Im back to a Logitech G29..

  • Babis Rataplan

    I don’t know if anyone cares… I just finish adding T300RS wheel on T150 Servo base .

    https://www.facebook.com/charalampos.rantaplan/posts/10154137562227390

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