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Simraceway Shutting Down Soon?

VirtualR has learned from several independent industry sources that Ignite Skill Gaming’s free to play SimRaceWay title is on the brink of collapse.

VirtualR has learned from several independent industry sources that Ignite Game Technologies’ free to play Simraceway title is on the brink of collapse.

According to matching reports from various sources, most of the core team behind Simraceway has recently been let go, including all content artists and other key personal.

As of now, the service is supposedly soldering along with a skeleton crew of only a handful of employees. Simraceway’s free to play title was launched in December 2011, expanding in content ever since.

The free to play title is Ignite Game Technologies’ second try to establish themselves in the sim racing community, the original Simraceway website was a spinoff of rFactorCentral, offering paid online races that were partly conducted with community mods, leading to a rather large controversy in the community.

Aside from having several high-profile licenses such as the whole Mclaren catalogue and promotional help from various real race drivers, SRW is somewhat infamous for their unconventional content prices as several add-on cars sold for as much as $38 for a single car – A concept that seems to have been rejected by the market.

The news of the title’s possible demise is not just bad news for sim racing as a whole but specifically for SimRaceWay’s customers who have poured a lot of money into their content and may end up not being able to use it much longer. Since SRW is an online-based service, customers won’t be able to use the title anymore in case that all servers are being shut down permanently.

  • Alejandro Gorgal

    I feel sorry for everyone involved in the development of the game, but to be honest Im surprised they’ve managed to stay afloat this long.

    • Anonymous

      They could re-invent themselves licensing the Assetto corsa engine, and producing content for that engine ~thinking out loud

      • Sene

        I was thinking about move/reedit some of content to reiza GSC or Truck. Could be amazing.

      • Kjell Eilertsen

        Don’t understand all the fuzz about GSC, SRW beats it on every point imo (subjective opinion, not up for discussion ;))

      • Sene

        well, it is kind of personal opinion! BTW I’m not telling that SRW is a bad sim.

        But, if they will close, I hope some or all of them contents can be used by other one.

      • http://virtualr.net/ F1Racer

        I couldn’t disagree more. But that’s not up for discuzzion either which I why I mentioned it on a blog. :))

      • Anonymous

        Did they fix the bug where if the server communication has a problem your car freezes on track while the lap timer continues to tick away? That ended up being the game-breaker for me, and from the others online at the time it wasn’t an uncommon occurrence.

      • Mario Strada

        A good thing too because there is no comparison.SRW has some nice cars that drive well. No doubt. But GSC2012 is head and shoulder above it in the quality of the models and the physics.
        I drive both frequently and GSC is a little jewel, while SRW is, at best , a good rFactor mod.

      • Slimjim

        Last time i checked, almost all SRW content is available for rF1… Tracks look very good.

      • Saleem Hodge

        I would much rather have them working in conjunction. Instead of having so many titles doing the same thing on the same engine. Have assetto corsa be the engine as it is. They could build the online portion of it a service that you pay for and manage along the lines of iracing.

  • kenpat .

    Sad news and a heads up for RRE maybe.

    • Martin Keets

      Yep Simbin will be next I fear. Shame, I would have bought GTR3 but I ignored Race Room. And that after purchasing all previous Simbin titles and addons.
      Hope i’m wrong as one day i’d like to be a customer of theirs again.
      Race Room is not for me though.

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  • Anonymous

    Wow, that’s interesting. They were going strong with new content and updates all the time. We’ll see what future holds, but i don’t think it will collapse.

  • Anonymous

    If it collapses I would feel the most sorry for the people that bought a lot of the expensive content in the game. Though definitely it’s sad to see people getting fired and I just hope the guys can find another job as soon as possible 🙂

  • Kjell Eilertsen

    If it collapses, which I really don’t hope it does, I will be more sad for all the fun I miss out on having in the future than the money I have lost.

    • Anonymous

      Well it does say something about FTP’s in the Sim Racing World and just how sustainable they are especially if there ends up being a few of them competing against each other. While I really don’t mind the fact that Ignite is trying to make their way in the industry as a whole ATM I am looking down on the FTP structure in this industry just because some FPS games have had success with it that does not mean it will here for our genre of gaming. SRW biggest enemy right now is it’s licensing contracts or else I would see no problem in restructuring their business model to package their material into a box style based product with a low price subscription based MP matching server. The industry lives and learns. This really ATM has me worried about Simbin because I believe their are good reasons for the CEO change and going to a FTP structure. I don’t want to see them fall apart as well.

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  • Anonymous

    Good. time to convert the mp4-4 for rf2

  • Anonymous

    Except for their strange pricing strategy they managed to get a pretty good and diverse sim running.
    I had a bunch of really good and fun races there.
    Even managed to earn some money with it.
    Their ingame autoupdate feature for content is something the guys at ISI should take a example on.
    Hopefuly their content comes available as standalone sim for those who have payed for it.

  • Matt Orr

    I’m torn.

    On one hand, it’s not for me. It is a waste of space for any serious simmer who already has a variety of titles available. On the other hand, they did street cars well enough and it’s a nice entry / taster for a person new to sim racing.

    Buuut….. with the whole SRW / rFc stuff that happened, well…. I’m not upset.

  • Josh Desotell

    Can’t say I’m shocked. Feel bad for people who put a lot of money into it.

  • Realkman666

    All free tracks including laser-scanned stuff, good customer service, best physics out of all the f2p racers, but it was just too old-looking. Wasn’t very expensive either.
    The interface was slow and a bit complex, but I enjoyed my time with it. I hope they salvage the Formula SRW and use it somewhere else, it was great fun.

  • Realkman666

    Wait, is this why I couldn’t download again and it said my account is inactive?

    • Phil Davidson

      Please contact our support team and we’ll check in on your account be sure to detail your username/registered email address, thanks!

  • Anonymous

    Crazy if true, just look at the list of car manufactures they have licensed…

    Chevorlet, Mini, Mclaren,Mercedes, Mazda, Toyota, Morgan, Ford, Bentley, Maserati, Catheram, Jaguar, MG, Audi, BMW, Lexus, Koeinsegg, VW, Renault, Alfa, Arial, Mitsubishi, Bugatti, Saleen, Dodge, Lola, IZOD Indy…

    Wonder if they will lower price now wouldn’t mind giving game try again.

    • Anonymous

      So much of the content is so cheap already, how could they lower prices any further and still make a profit?

      • Anonymous

        What I meant is, eliminate the online run time trials to get money and just bundle the cars into one big pack and sell it fixed price, they already do sell bundles if you don’t want to wait but the prices for bundles are steep.

        Game would be lot more successful if they had standard pricing like every other game with offline play.

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        10-4

      • Damian Black

        “the prices for the bundles are steep.” i don’t think that at all.

      • FormulaLes

        The point I was getting at is that it means would have to sell heaps of Audi A4s for instance to cover the development cost of the McLaren F1 which obviously wouldn’t sell as well due to the price.

      • Anonymous

        I’m a fan of the McLaren F1 cars and I don’t think $38 for one car is cheap. Are the “around town” cars cheap? Yes. But I don’t really care about driving an Audi A4 in a racing game…

      • FormulaLes

        I’ve never used simraceway, but from what I understand the pricing of the cars is relative to their real world price, which seems like an interesting idea, but not very sustainable – I imagine that modelling any car in a virtual scenario, regardless of whether it is the McLaren F1 or an Audi A4 would take almost the same man hours to do, would seem to make more sense to sell all the cars for the same price?

      • Anonymous

        Licensing is all different prices depending what it is. Their structure I am sure was derived as to push through license deals as fast as they could with their fractional based approach on what they charge for individual cars. While some may actually be dirt cheap within this structure others cost more than some entire games and IMO is a big drawback because the outrageous high price is what will stick in people’s minds. AFM I own most of the under 20 dollar content and made use of 50% sales still at the end of the day it still added up quite a bit. I may have put as much as $150 toward this thing and the rate I purchased was unable to make use of package deals either

      • Anonymous

        Except, I didn’t get the impression the prices were even related to the cost of the license. Instead it’s related to how much carbon fiber and titanium is required to produce the real car. It’s an interesting idea, but I agree with @formulales:disqus that it doesn’t seem sustainable to not peg your prices to the development costs.

      • Anonymous

        Well I will agree I was pretty harsh with some of my posts. I am a bit stressed ATM financially since I kicked out $550 of my own money to build my brother a PC and now he says his company is giving him one and he has a multi 6 figure salary. So this news came at a bad time for me. I may not have been as harsh but my feelings do not change over the issue and right now it seems like the sim race industry getting a shot to the jaw bone that will have a ripple effect toward other companies trying to make a go of the online based structure purchase content as you go model. I really never felt too much of this development team good bad or indifferent but there are other developers trying a similar model that I do care much about and think very highly of that may be shooting themselves in the foot as well ATM.

      • Anonymous

        I can understand different prices because it’s always going to be harder to nail the physics of the McLaren MP4/4 vs. an Audi A4. But the difference is one is something like $0.50 and the other is $38.00!!

        Linking sale price to current value makes no sense as all the great race cars are worth millions and millions of dollars if they were to ever be sold.

        The best analogy I could come up with is linking a game price to how much it would cost to go and race there. So you sell a racing game for $2000 because that’s what it costs to go to Germany and go around the Nordschleife.

  • Marco Hooghuis

    On one hand it’s a good thing it’s going down, it shows that you can’t simply buy an audience using star drivers to promote you. On the other hand, they had some really nice cars for not that much. I really had a blast with the MR2, FSAE, F3 and E30 in particular.

    I think that might be why they’re now in this position; the cheap cars were good and could be earned by just driving a few laps and the expensive cars were so expensive most people didn’t bother with them in the first place.

  • Phil Davidson

    Hey Guys,

    Just got wind of this, unfortunately – for VirtualR traffic volumes – the rumours of our demise have been greatly exaggerated.

    However we have had a really tough break of late and so had to let some folk go but the operation is certainly not shutting down and we’re continuing to develop and push out new content – feel free to check out our new Skill Sharding, this weekend saw some of the closest racing we’ve yet achieved.

    All the best,
    Phil

    P.S. VirtualR admins our name is actually “Simraceway” (not SimRaceWay), our company name is “Ignite Game Technologies” (not Ignite Skill Gaming) and that screenshot is nearly a year old!

    Further more of the 100+ cars we’ve released all of them can actually be acquired for no cost via credits and only a small number have very high prices (if you want to buy them rather than earn them), in fact over 40 of them are less than $1 each.

    • Marco Hooghuis

      Cool, thanks for the news. My last paragraph of my post below still stands though.

    • Anonymous

      I exaggerated nothing, I’ve just reported what I have been told. Since several sources reported exactly the same thing I figured there was merit to it.

      This article is certainly not meant to gloat about the problems you are in but since this is a paid service I think members deserve to know of its problems…god forbid that somebody spends a large sum of content not knowing that the title might be shut down in a few days.

      Regarding the new content, I was told that will come from a back catalogue and there are no actual artists left on your team. Is this true?

      I’ll update the article with your answer of course…

      • horrace

        Way to MontoyaVR, I have not gotten over how they got started and how we lost rfactorcentral, the game that got me into sim racing. If you live by the sword…………!

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    • Anonymous

      The game won’t even run for me and I have given you over 100 bucks in efforts to be supportive. Damn right I am upset. Your DLM is malware with a process that reloads itself and will not update my game even after a reinstall. When it was loading I was having constant brake failures on lap 2 with all cars and all tracks, So it probably has not worked for me for 6 mos. So if your down I’ll try my best to take you out and say forget about my money. You should not be in business.

      • myvracelog

        Runs on 4 machines I have here 2 of which were made in two thousand four and are dual cores. Also runs on my I7 3.6 monster.

        Something is wrong with your machine.

      • Anonymous

        “Something is wrong with your machine”?
        Oh that’s a very bad thing to say to me and since others have been having the same issues I would not call it isolated. I have a lot of pride into everyone of my PC builds and to say something is wrong with my machine you just lost all of my respect.

      • myvracelog

        well, I like your posts for the most part.
        certainly not trying to hurt your feelings. but it makes me think you have something running on your machine that is interfering with game play. (im not in love with srw btw, but think they have some good ideas. )

        dam! i hate losing respect :/

      • Anonymous

        If just a misunderstanding all is forgiven. Easy to forgive easy to forget. The issues that have plagued me have plagued others as well pertaining to the update system and the intermittent brake failures on lap 2. Like I mentioned in a reply to Bakkster at the time I posted the bulk of my replies here I was in a bit of financial stress due to other occurrences in my life and I admitted I was a bit harsh toward SRW. I would rather just let it go and leave it be because I don’t need to allow myself the additional stress worrying about something that is out of my control.

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      • myvracelog

        Well ill write this again because 1st time did not got through. Sorry I did not mean to hurt your feelings.

        Dam! I hate losing respect! :/

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  • http://www.bsimracing.com/ Wim

    First the SRW controversy, then a huge risk capital of a few million to their disposal, then 608.980 likes on facebook, yet nobody seemed to use it, and after a year its all gone? well… makes you wonder where the money went… That said, shame for the people who liked it. Lets hope the content gets playable offline.

    • Anonymous

      I wouldn’t even say the $20+ car prices were the crazy part of their pricing structure. The 30 cent cars that could be picked up for free after a couple minutes of running laps were. How does one expect to monetize that, especially when all the tracks are free?

      It will be interesting to see if they can continue. And let’s not forget the big name marketing agreements they have with Alan McNish, Radio Le Mans, and Andy Blackmore. As you said, where did the money come from, and where did it go?

      • traind

        Insightful comment on the pricing structure– thanks. For $5 or $10 you can pick up a bunch of street rides that are actually nicely done in the handling department and not available from other pc sims. IMO, the race cars aren’t as good as the competition in other sims but tend to be more expensive. But the street rides are pretty entertaining.

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      • Hugo Stiglitz

        Only 30 cents? Look at it as a shortcut I get. How many laps though?

        Honestly i disagree though, charging that much money for a car is crazy. Iracing is worse though but at least they have something no other sim does, simraceway isn’t much different than the other sims so I don’t understand how they can charge crazy prices for some cars.

        R3E is another one that needs to get its act together. That’s gonna fail if they don’t hurry up and get some online racing going

      • Anonymous

        IIRC, each lap was half a cent, and cars were priced at 1/100,000th their real world value. So the cheaper street cars could be earned for a couple dozen laps.

        I feel like both ends of the pricing were crazy, but it was the super cheap cars that made the model unsustainable. I’ve heard it said that F2P games usually have 90% non-paying players and the remaining 10% fund the entire development (roughly, don’t take these numbers as gospel). So the problem is, with so much inexpensive content and so little at the higher price (and what was the motivation to buy it? Rarer cars just mean fewer people to race against), it didn’t seem well positioned to leverage those few big spenders to finance everything.

        Contrasting with iRacing, the price scheme being divorced from effort spent made it more odd to me. Whether you feel the results are worth it or not, I think most can understand why iRacing places the price they do on content. They put in a lot of work including shop level access to the cars, often traveling to the factory or racing team to gather data directly. It’s a lot of work, so the higher price seems justified (even if you don’t want to pay it, it seems linked to their development costs). I never got that feeling with SRW. They seemed like standard rFactor mod content, and no matter the quality I never got the feeling they put as much effort into each car (the rate of content releases essentially assures that). So even though someone can like the results, the economics just don’t match up to me. If each car gets roughly the same amount of development time and effort, why does one sell for 30 cents and another for 30 dollars?

      • Hugo Stiglitz

        Well other developers do the same amount of work that iracing does, sometimes spending even more money and they don’t charge $12 per car, $15 per track.

        I don’t care how they try to justify it, it’s too much. Especially because it’s not like we can try a car before we buy it. I got the V8 supercar and it was a waste of money for me because not only can I almost never race it but it’s a pain to drive.

        Not to mention the fact that we can’t race offline at all. That’s just stupid. What if our internet goes out and we need to practice? That’s happened to me and I couldn’t race because I didn’t have enough practice.

        I’m sick of iracings policies but they’re really the only place to find good racing 24/7 so I’m stuck with it.

      • Anonymous

        We could rehash the debate over the economics of the iRacing prices, but I don’t see the point.

        Rather, focus on this which relates to the discussion at hand:
        Roughly the same amount of development effort goes into each car, and they all carry the same price point. This is similar to most driving games which release DLC. Contrast this to SRW with their prices tagged not to development effort or license cost, but rather to the price to purchase the car in reality. Why make the latest McLaren F1 car cost 300x more than the Go Kart just because the McLaren uses a lot of carbon fiber?

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    • http://s1.zetaboards.com/SimSkinsByDen/index/ PetrolheadDen

      Not to mention when the idiots at SRT were all gung ho supporting it and mysteriously just …..stopped…..lol.

      • Anonymous

        I heard SRW screwed them they will be jumping for joy!!!

      • Realkman666

        I heard they call Shift 2 a sim.

      • Anonymous

        I don’t think so. We all know that SRT tries to give their sponsors their monies worth but I have not heard them say anything directly about the Shift series in quite some time and when they were you have to remembers EA puts a bit into launch events so there may have been perks involved, Can’t blame them for putting food on their table.

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    • Matt Orr

      The likes were in all likelihood (aka were) fakes. Take a look at Phil’s comment down below – 30 likes? Okay, then look at the up arrow – 19 guest votes.

      AKA, “fake” people who may / may not exist. SRW has almost always tried to sound like it is more than it is, basically the throw money at it early and often, recoup it later.

      If 600000 people took the time to actually “like” them on facebook, there would have been a TON more than 30 people online when I last tried SRW a week ago. Especially seeing how 600000 people would make it perhaps the best selling sim of all time.

      iRacing is some “rich guy’s folly” (aka moneypit, though John Henry does have a somewhat decent reason for wanting to make a sim given he owns half of a major NASCAR team…) as well when you think about it, so it’s not so outlandish.

      • Anonymous

        Montoya’s comment has 14 guest likes out of 21, the same 2/3rds ratio as Phil’s comment currently (24/36).

        I agree they almost certainly bought Facebook likes, but it doesn’t add up to accuse them of buying likes here. Unless you’re accusing us all of buying likes as well.

        Hey Matt, 6 of your 7 likes are guest votes… how much did that cost? 😉

      • myvracelog

        LOLOLOL Your comment was so good he had no comeback! Funny how that works. (especially works with IR suck ups.)
        Also it seems like all the know it alls on this topic never even mention the SRW has there own race training school with REAL life cars.
        Personally I don’t care either way but I think all sim race companies if there legit are good for the hobby.

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        If you think about it, SRW would have quite a bit to gain from “buying likes” or what-not. I would also guess that most users here are independent (in terms of alliance monetarily to a studio/game etc.) so the comparison seems a little, for lack of a better word, unfair. Though the ratio of guests is high, without those (current) 27 the ratio of up/down is still 16-3, which is high.

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    • Anonymous

      I heard they had something like 10 million dollars. Ponzi written all over it can you say Class Action?

      • Anonymous

        I actually was able to go back to a record of my words early on and claims made by Ignite

        My words Jan. 2012

        Well Simraceway is a work in progress and seems to be the new approach for developers over the long run. It has some nice features but is really not special in any way. It fits into the ISI technology mold and was done pretty well using it. I opted to buy the cars rather than earning points for them since I am sure they could use the money. They are already discussing large changes to the layout of the UI and just added a laptime call out feature. For me I’d rather see them succeed than fail!!!

        Ignites claims in Feb. 2012

        Following the successful launches of our game public beta and groundbreaking SRW-S1 Steering Wheel, Simraceway’s creators, Ignite Game Technologies, were last week provided with an extra $5 million of funding, taking the total raised to date to $17.5 million.

        Where is the money? $17.5 million is a lot of money

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  • Markus Ott

    Fantastic news for sim racing and I don’t feel sorry for anyone who paid something for this completely overpriced joke. People who did that better learn their lesson for the future.

    • Martin Keets

      Don’t hold back Markus !!

    • Anonymous

      Screw that attitude Markus I don’t like seeing my money float away. So with what your saying Simbin is next hey?

      • Anthony Birch

        No, they have their own model makers and dont rip other model makers off. in actual fact its more the other way around i’d bet. other people rip their models off

      • Anonymous

        What models where ripped off than?
        They have more than 100 cars, i can hardly imagine they would get away with it.

    • steve30x

      Its because of SRW that I wont play R3E. I dont want to pay for content.

      • Marco Hooghuis

        So you don’t want people to make money from their work?

      • Anonymous

        When there is enough people participating, the few that race so much they don’t have to pay are making it a better experience for the rest who don’t mind dropping a few dollars. The more people one the server the better.

      • Marco Hooghuis

        But we can’t all be the few. The money has to be made somehow.

      • steve30x

        No thats why I spent €30 on SRW

  • MatzeLoCal

    This article smells a bit fishy, especially with having Phil Davidson in mind.

  • Gabriele Bonora

    Mmh, i was aware that something wasn’t running so well down there.

    I was contacted by someone in the middle 1 year ago, for making some stuff for SRW, but i left for other jobs. I was surprised that after a laser scanned survey (i mean, it’s expensive), nobody, did that track, after one year. Honestly i find the whole sim good, maybe lust a bit dispersive but good. We have a lot of fun with few cars. (Who i am?, i did Varano and Rouen for rFactor, elwood)

    Cheers. 🙂

  • Anonymous

    All i can say is………………….HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

    • http://s1.zetaboards.com/SimSkinsByDen/index/ PetrolheadDen

      Charging extra for rFactor add ons is pretty funny in itself.

  • Damian Black

    Simraceway is an awesome game IMO and to me this website likes taking shots at this game. iv never read anything good that they have said about SRW even tho there is soo much good stuff to write about they never seem to do so. Iv spent over $30 Dollars at Simraceway and won over $5 and Im in the running to earn 5 more dollars. for me that’s awesome!. never in any racing game have i won back money! I continue to wait for more content.!

    • Anonymous

      Same with me.. I’ve spent U$50 to support them. Unfortunately with my getting limited play time I haven’t play it for more than 6 months. But if what Rodrrico accused is right that they steal modder’s works, I must say I have supported the wrong developers

    • bduddy

      It’s not surprising to me that VR takes constant shots at Simraceway (including wrongly stating for months, despite many comments to the contrary, the amount of free content you get) given that it’s owned by a competitor.

  • Pandamasque

    I’m not a fan of SRW and I wasn’t too pleased by the way the company entered the market. But this bad news. The fact alone that SWR project is having a tough time tells us something about the entry level PC simracing market…

    • Jann Dircks

      The wanted to charge people 38$ for one freaking car. A car which you can have in a waaaaaay better version for free in Reiza’s Game Stock Car. I mean come oooon!

      • Pandamasque

        Most of the cars were so affordable that I’d say this is the by far cheapest paid DLC content I’ve seen.

      • Anonymous

        That’s the extreme example. Many cars are under a dollar, and most are under 10. I’ve put about $30 into it, and have a fairly comprehensive garage of cars, most of which are unavailable on any other sim. The Morgan 3 wheeler and the Palatov DP4 especially will be sorely missed.

      • Damian Black

        i don’t think this game is going any were dude

      • Professional Operator

        The Palatov DP4 is an rFactor mod.
        Just saying.

  • http://s1.zetaboards.com/SimSkinsByDen/index/ PetrolheadDen

    Good news indeed.

  • Rodrrico

    Serves them right for stealing our work and trying to make a profit from the countless hours we put into making cars, tracks and other things with the gmotor2 engine for free. If we had received the just royalties we deserved then I would have a different stance, but I speak as a track maker here, and we were not impressed with how they started up.

    • Anonymous

      Is this real? I’d like to hear what Simraceway has to say about this

    • Anonymous

      That’s your own fault mate.
      I developed 2 track projects for them, Zandvoort and Assen, within a week after the content was delivered and contracts signed I had the payments on my account.
      The people at the SImRaceWay office where always very nice and correct to work with. So I guess you have to be more proffesional yourself.

      • Rodrrico

        Actually it has nothing to do with being professional at all pal. I worked on GSC 2012 as a beta tester, so I clearly am capable of being ‘professional’ Once I saw my Imola track up there I asked for it to be taken down as no ‘payment’ was ever offered. They simply took it. However they did remove it upon request. This is why I seldom upload my circuits to Rfc anymore.

      • cyruscloud

        I think there is some confusion here between Simraceway the old website and Simraceway the current game. The old website did use mod content with and sometimes without permission for their competitions a commercial business. This was bad, the current Simraceway game is all scratch built content by Ignite and contractors.

      • Rodrrico

        You’re right. I have been referring to the original connection to RFC where mod content was used. I have not used the new simraceway like most people on here (I assume). I am not trying to take anything away from them, just remind people what their original intentions were. Before the simraceway website I never had to put a disclaimer with my tracks I released. Now I need to justify that the content is mine and not for commercial use. Such is the way of an ever stupid world. Thank you for your comment, it has put things into perspective for me and hopefully others whose brash comments are plainly wrong.

  • Racecarfan

    I have to say I have thoroughly enjoyed my time at Simraceway and will continue to support this game in any way I can . Every game has naysayers but let’s sit back and see what unfolds before driving nails into it’s coffin . With any luck the negatives are greatly exagerrated

    • Anthony Birch

      charging people to buy mods that OTHER people make and then the OTHER people DONT get a cut…………they deserve to go down man, POP THE CHAMPAGNE CORKS

      • Racecarfan

        Serious accusations and I wonder if they can be proven . We have a handful of posters here tossing out some unsubstantiated drivel . Anthony did you work for Simraceway ?

      • Anthony Birch

        its not unsubstantiated drivel, read what people are saying, read all of them, not just the ones you like.

      • Anthony Birch

        this is written in the topic starter….read the last sentence………CLOSELY

        offering paid online races that were partly conducted with community mods, leading to a rather large controversy in the community.

      • Giovanni Scala

        Please explain with evidences or your words count like 0

      • Anthony Birch

        i posted a reply to you earlier, but it looks like a moderator has deemed it unfit for posting.

  • Mario Strada

    What a surprise.

    • Anthony Birch

      you’re kidding right!

  • Silvio

    Who cares?

    • Anonymous

      I do they have a bit of money from me and I don’t think they will be giving refunds. I have approached them on this matter with no response since for months now the game will not run for me and when it did it was full of bugs major ones. Oh well I guess if this the case I am done with FTP build your content based games. I thought they had a boat load of money starting out now I question if it was just an elaborate Ponzi Scheme. Their DLM acted like a malware with even if you close it and kill the process the process reloads itself. I smell class action law suit.

      • Phil Davidson

        Birddogg66, please do contact us directly using [email protected], if you are indeed the chap from the old forum I can’t find any communications from your directly to us aside from Facebook posts, be sure to email [email protected] and we’ll gladly assist, also see my response to your comment to my post regarding some concerns you had, thanks!

      • Phil Davidson

        Seems my lengthy reply earlier was deleted, that’s a shame, the response I gave on the old forum here should suffice https://getsatisfaction.com/simraceway/topics/serious_brake_issue_on_rs_4#reply_12563378 be sure to get in touch, thanks!

      • Anonymous

        Umm you may have seen the commercial of this dude on TV that turns businesses around and puts up 2 million of his own money to do so. Reality Show TV could help HaHa.
        Whole thing is how do you fix your upper end content pricing structure without breech of contract? That’s a difficult one. When the game was running well for me before the brake issues I was enjoying it but that was some time ago and I basically gave up. As you may remember I was willing to give you the chance and time to get things worked out but for me they haven’t. Also why do you abandon a whole forum worth of content that your members posted in and built up?
        Also come to think about it I think the site link you are posting asked me to reregister and did not send out a confirmation email so maybe I did not email but did post in the old forum as you say but I am no longer getting email notifications of your replies from the forum like I use to and I have pretty much given up with the sour taste of losing my money in my mouth.

      • Phil Davidson

        Hi, content has been and will continue to be copied over from the old forum to the new one, the Get Satisfaction platform couldn’t service our forum needs so we took the plunge and moved to another format, regarding the forum emails there is a noted issue there and no user will receive them at the moment, I’ve activated the new forum account for you assuming it is “Birddogg66” and you should be able to log in without issue, thanks!

      • http://virtualr.net/ F1Racer

        It seems it got caught in our spam filter because of multiple URLs in the post. If you need me to recover it just let me know.

      • Phil Davidson

        Hi F1Racer, I think we are OK there, I thought that may be the case as I had included a couple of URLs, apologies for that and thanks for the quick response on the matter, all the best!

      • http://virtualr.net/ F1Racer

        No probs.

      • Anonymous

        Well thanks for the response I just emailed support last week with no response and with my post further below I really don’t think I’ll be getting one anytime soon. Sorry it had to be that way but there just comes a time to let the frustrations go. Stress is not healthy and the little bit I had left bottled up I just let go in this thread. Sorry if it was harsh. As people I have nothing against you guys as a business well I’ll just stop there.

      • Phil Davidson

        Hi, I’d be interested to know which email you contacted us with last week (unless you’re referring to the forum post on the old forum that I replied to four days ago) as the last contact I have managed to find from your self in our support ticketing system just now was from April 9th (thankfully you use the same username across the board it seems which helped track some things down), feel free to email [email protected] again and I’ll see if it comes through (I’ll be available for about another hour) or you can log in to Simraceway.com and select the HELP button on the left to submit a support request which should certainly be received without issue, thanks!

      • Phil Davidson

        April 9th = May 23rd apologies, I’ll keep an eye out for any communications from you this evening, thanks!

      • http://s1.zetaboards.com/SimSkinsByDen/index/ PetrolheadDen

        Now they’re spamming. AHAHAHAAA!!!

  • Jann Dircks

    Time to celebrate!

  • John Krisfalusci

    Ponzi Scheme =(

  • Rhys Gardiner

    Trying to be surprised… trying… so… hard…

    Mmmm… Nah.

  • charliefairhead

    Looking through Linkedin, there are quite a few people who were known to be at Simraceway who are no longer are including the guy, Chris, who managed the car team, asking a couple of contractors seem to confirm this. I’m also told some cars built haven’t been released yet, so maybe they have a backlog of assets?

    Also note, the SimRaceWay logo has disappeared from RadioLeMans.com since the last time I looked. I’ve also noticed a distinct lack of their namedropping on the radio station or facebook page in recent weeks.

    The racing and physics were great, the pricing not so. You need to appeal to the player to a) return and keep retention up by great in-game experience and b) the hero cars not to be out of most people’s price range. $38 fo a McLaren is just nuts when the game experience, aside from physics, is just about average.

  • Anthony Birch

    100% agree Rhys.

    never gave them a cent mate. this was always gonna happen, only thing we didnt know was when

  • GamerMuscle

    If the information is correct it looks likely that Simraceway will stay open for another 12 months, milk as much cash as possible from entrenched users and if or when that is not enough to offset running costs and basic staff we will likely see it close down for good.

    Its a shame as I would love to see a skill based game with cash prizes other than poker become popular.

    The problem is the variance in simracing or FPS games is far to low for rubbish players to justify risking money when its prity much garented they will always lose and due to varouse laws its not practical and often not legal to run a lottery to accommodate those players.

    I always thought there were fundamental issues with simraceway though, the site design is horrendous , the content pricing makes little sense and the quality of racing is worse than what’s found in RF1 and RF2.

    Its as if the service was designed by people that had not done that much research into the games industry , micro transactions and free to play titles , pitched an idea to some investors with the investors buying into it based on general growth of the free to play sector as whole.

    I remember the investor buzz around free to play micro-transactions coming to the west ( its been the norm in south korea for 10+ years ) when club penguin sold for 12 million or so to Disney around 2008 and now we see R3E , war thunder, Tribes , planet side 2 and many other games that have tried to ride that wave.

    Its always easy to dismiss things with 20/20 hind sight who knows maybe SRW might slowly regain traction, If I was to bank on it though SRW would be near the bottom of the pile.

    With the type of money SRW had/the development time they could have developed a semi sim game for iphone and android along the lines of real racing and made an absolute killing with licensed cars.

    If you are an investor and want to risk money in the hellish world of entertainment software mobile is the place to be right now .

  • steve30x

    I quit Simraceway 12 months ago. The cars handling was just like driving andros trophy cars. Not only that but some of the cars they were looking for way too much. I also spent about €30 on the game buying cars. I dont care if this game shuts down

    • Anonymous

      You can’t compare it to what it was 12 months ago.
      It’s really much better now.

      • steve30x

        If the cars still drive like you are racing the andros trophy in every single car then its the same SRW I played a year ago,

      • punkfest2000

        Tried a few of cars. Yesterdays’ technology. Personally I dislike free-to-play and can’t wait till the model dies.

      • Anonymous

        I was full on in efforts to support FTP or Sub based but my experience with this has caused me to hold back from supporting more recent releases of these styles of platform.
        Will the concept die off? IDK but I would hope developers engaging themselves into these platforms would have a backup plan if things ever go south.

  • Anonymous

    I hope, for people who have spent money in this project, they release an offline version of this game.

  • Anonymous

    Another one bites the dust…(cough) Kickstart?

    • Arrniesan

      I ain’t a sucker and Simraceway is back online…sucker. :p

  • udi udev

    I play the game for about a year and i have like 40 cars without giving a penny. Sry to hear that but seems truth

  • bduddy

    How convenient, a “leak” of bad news for the competition of VR’s backers! Waiting until we hear the same thing about R3E, and every other subscription-based sim…

    • Anonymous

      I have no idea who you think VR’s “backers” are but my guess is you are assuming something wrong.

      VR is backed by the sponsors that have banners on this site and I don’t really see any of these companies being competition to SRW.

      It is not a leak, several people told me about it and if you check out the official response in here you can see that it is confirmed that the base facts in the article are true – People have been laid off, there are severe problems obviously.

      All I did was warn my readers because SRW still accepts money for content and people that are planning to spend a big amount would probably like to know that the tittle is in financial trouble.

      • bduddy

        I was being somewhat more snarky than necessary about your working for SMS. However, and I say this as a fan in general of your blog, your coverage of Simraceway has been horrible. Maybe you feel they deserve it because of their prior treatment of modders or something, but you’ve done almost everything you could to make them look bad, whether intentional or not. Look how many people in this comments section think a significant number or all of their cars are $30!

      • Anonymous

        “Look how many people in this comments section think a significant number or all of their cars are $30!”

        I count zero thinking they’re “all” $30, and of the ones acknowledging the super-premium cars all seem to acknowledge that they’re a subset.

      • Anonymous

        Who I work for is irrelevant when it comes to VR. I run this site in my free time just like when I had another (albeit much more boring…) day job.

        SMS is neither paying a cent for me to run this site nor have they ever influenced me or the content in any shape or form.

        I have always been 100% open about my involvement with SMS from the very start I would like to think that people could give me the benefit of a doubt in return when I say that nobody influences the content on this site.

        Trust me, when you run a big studio, you have much, much bigger fish to fry than to worry about the contents of some blog one of your employees is running 🙂

        I don’ t think I did a bad job covering this title, I’m not claiming that I was enthusiastic about it either though.

        I don’t think I’m alone with that though, their practices have just been way too shady in the past and things like the bizarre content prices didn’t really help either.

        When it comes to the cars, you have to admit that this is a bit dishonest. Yes, there were countless of cheap cars but let’s keep it real, it was mostly cars only few people want to drive anyways.

        I’ve been in sim racing long enough, I know that F1 cars and other high-performance cars are what people ultimately want and all those cars were pricy as hell – You can’t deny that.

        Last but not least, my motivation writing this article wasn’t to gloat or exercise Schadenfreude. It sucks for their former employees…I witness the amount of work that goes into creating cars, tracks and everything else needed to create a title of such scale.

        I feel truly sorry for everyone who has lost their job over this, still, this is no reason not to warn people about this to prevent people from eventually losing their money.

        I didn’t post a rumor or made anything up, I was contacted by several people, including those close to the operation who obviously felt that people should know about this…and I agreed.

      • Anonymous

        Adding to the part about why I always had problems supporting their efforts:

        All in all, it just did not feel like you`re dealing with a company that is honest and upfront with its customers.

        Things like obviously bought Facebook likes and stuff like that destroy a lot of trust if you ask me. If a company is lying about such details, how can I believe anything else they say?

      • Anonymous

        It is they same with the titlebar of VR…Alphabetic order of sims….except pCars….That one is in front of AC the rest is in order. Thats also manipulating your customers in a different way.

      • http://virtualr.net/ F1Racer

        Do you really feel manipulated ? Get real (© Simbin).
        So if you see the headline of a newpaper does it in some way inhibit you from reading the rest of the newspaper ?
        Is the newspaper manipulating it’s customers ?
        Please tell me or produce some evidence of VR members who have been manipulated by this. It’s a stupid complaint plain and simple and it completely meaningless.

      • Kendra Jacobs

        “Who I work for is irrelevant when it comes to VR. I run this site in my free time just like when I had another (albeit much more boring…) day job.

        SMS is neither paying a cent for me to run this site nor have they ever influenced me or the content in any shape or form.

        I have always been 100% open about my involvement with SMS from the very start I would like to think that people could give me the benefit of a doubt in return when I say that nobody influences the content on this site.”

        How could you say that when you post every single article of pcars including just updates to their pictures blog? How about pictures community made pictures of other sims? And how could you say that when most of the times the project cars news release will be at the top of the front page ahead of all other news items even though there were like 5 news items released? Its almost always the pcars one at the top making headlines. And how could you say that when you seem to sometimes wait days before posting updates and only finally post the articles once you also receive a pcars news update so that you can post that at the top possibly avoiding attention to all other newly posted articles?

        Come on.

      • Anonymous

        What do you mean by “posting every single article” about pCARS?

        I post news when there’s something to report, on every sim. I don’t even post every single pCARS Community Gallery even though it technically is news.

        I don’t post other community-made screenshots because screenshots of released simulations aren’t news-worthy. The difference is that pCARS is not released, it’s a title a large part of the readers don’t have access to yet..and as such the previews are news just like new AC, iRacing previews etc. are news.

        The top story is usually something that interests a lot of people and pCARS happens to be one of the most exciting things in sim racing right now. This has nothing to do with me working for SMS but with me taking a look at the visitor stats and seeing what the readers want.

        pCARS & AC are the hot topics right now and that’s why the top story is news on one of these titles most of the time.

        And regarding the amount of news stories, I invite you to count how many AC stories have been posted the past month and how many pCARS stories… do it…you’ll be surprised.

        I could post much more on pCARS, more build notes, more previews etc. because the WMD model simply produces more news. I don’t do it because I want to keep a balance and not look partial but despite all my efforts to provide transparency I’m still getting shit from people like you…

        If I wouldn’t work for SMS, the content of this site would look 100% the same. As I said above, if anything it would have even more pCARS stuff because it simply is the most exciting thing happening in sim racing right now.

        Rant over.

      • Anonymous

        Take off that tinfoil hat, other simracing sites post just as much on pCARS without getting allegations of bias.

      • Anonymous

        I see VR post articles for all the Top developers when they get them. A plain and simple fact. Sorry if this content does not come in at a ratio you are happy with Kendra. I don’t see Racedepartment posting any pCARS articles. It may fit you quite well

      • traind

        Last time I checked I never paid a cent to visit Virtualr and scan the news. Why complain about this? If you have a specific thing you want to see more of from the site then I can see asking for that. But complaining about too much of something? No one is forcing you to come here or to read every article.

      • Anonymous

        Took the words right out of my mouth.

      • http://virtualr.net/ F1Racer

        Kendra, not quite sure what your problem is lately but you clearly haven’t been paying too much attention.
        From what I have seen the pCARs news comes late here (at least after it’s been posted on BSIM) and it rarely sits at the top. The last two times a thread was posted on pCARS, another thread was posted an hour or so afterwards.

        Now even if it was posted at the stop, so what ? What does the order matter. Do you seriously believe that whatever article is at the top diverts attention away from all the others below it ?? To that I say ‘Come on’.
        Rob works at SMS so I think we can allow a bit of leeway even if it was sat at the top – something you wouldn’t pick up on or moan about if he didn’t work there. It doesn’t mean he is biased against the other stuff. If so, why bother running the site any more? If you look at the VR RSS feed there are 20 entries covering the past 5 days. Only 3 are pCARS threads, 1 of which was an interview the other two were boring comparison vids.
        As for the pCARS user gallery, VR is not the only website to post these for pCARS ONLY and lately it has not been the first.

        Also every pCARS article does not include the gallery. Check them for yourself. If I was to come here without the knowledge that Rob works at SMS I would detect no preference to pCARS at all. I think you’re the one being biased here.

      • Anonymous

        Quote “including those close to the operation who obviously felt that people should know about this.” End of quote.

        Sounds like a Edward Snowden case there watch your back Rob. 🙂

      • Anonymous

        Virtchi Leaks?

      • Kendra Jacobs

        Response from head of Simraceway Phil Davidson!!!

        “Hey Guys,

        Just got wind of this, unfortunately – for VirtualR traffic volumes – the rumours of our demise have been greatly exaggerated. However we have had a really tough break of late and so had to let some folk go but the operation is certainly not shutting down and we’re continuing to develop and push out new content – feel free to check out our new Skill Sharding, this weekend saw some of the closest racing we’ve yet achieved.

        All the best,
        Phil

        P.S. VirtualR admins our name is actually “Simraceway” (not SimRaceWay), our company name is “Ignite Game Technologies” (not Ignite Skill Gaming) and that screenshot is nearly a year old!

        Further more of the 100+ cars we’ve released all of them can actually be acquired for no cost via credits and only a small number have very high prices (if you want to buy them rather than earn them), in fact over 40 of them are less than $1 each.”

        “The reponse from VR moderator MontoyaVR:”

        “I exaggerated nothing, I’ve just reported what I have been told. Since several sources reported exactly the same thing I figured there was merit to it. This article is certainly not meant to gloat about the problems you are in but since this is a paid service I think members deserve to know of its problems…god forbid that somebody spends a large sum of content not knowing that the title might be shut down in a few days.

        Regarding the new content, I was told that will come from a back catalogue and there are no actual artists left on your team. Is this true? I’ll update the article with your answer of course..”

        SO WHY DONT YOU REMOVE THIS ARTICLE OFF OF VIRTUALR SINCE THE HEAD OF THE COMPANY HAS DISMISSED YOUR ARTICLE AS FALSE???

      • myvracelog

        How dare you!
        Correcting the Admin of this site!
        He watches science shows! (true story) be careful you may have to read through 2 days of boring explanations of things that can be summed up in in 2 sentences.

        God forbid! (god I love using that phrase once I know I am dealing with non believer antagonists 🙂 ), how can you have a personal opinion on a opinion based web site!

      • http://virtualr.net/ F1Racer

        I’m not an Admin of this site. Get yourself better informed.

        So we had a disagreement a little while ago and it seems you can’t let it go. Now you feel it’s ok to belittle me in public. I would advise against that.
        You seem to do very well posting your personal opinions here so you can’t have any complaints in that area.
        God help someone should reply to you with more than two sentences.

      • myvracelog

        No you had a disagreement, and I corrected you. There is a distinct difference. Moderator, owner, admin, Sargent, Indian chief, Que Sera.

        Yes god help someone. You said something I agree with. 🙂
        Also for the record I don’t make personal opinions on individuals unless they get in my space or try to get personal with me because they run out of intelligent debate and turn to insults (which is what happened on the Monaco thread/ guy started name calling and I stepped on him back). Even then remain as reserved as possible.

        Opinions are why I read this site, I find the posters here interesting and entertaining, I can get sim race news on about 30 different well done sites and search engines.

        Without your posters this sites clicks (audience) would diminish greatly, I suggest keeping that in mind.

      • http://virtualr.net/ F1Racer

        You may enjoy that kind of ‘satire’ but it won’t get you far here. You were belittling me and I won’t stand for that any more than you would.
        You and your ego might think you corrected me but I don’t agree with that assessment.

        Get in your space ? How can someone ‘get in your space’ on the internet ? You’re using the wrong phrase here. Getting in your space would be someone standing too close to you in a queue for example. Maybe you mean ‘getting on your case’.

        It doesn’t surprise me that you just come here for your own personal entertainment. I’ve seen the way you talk to people with such a condescending tone – maybe to stir yourself up some more entertainment.
        I don’t need your suggestions either.

        But allow me to make one back. Drop this incessant need to ‘be in my space’. Take that as advice more than a suggestion.

      • myvracelog

        you have to admit, this article is not a positive one nor does forecasting speculative hearsay help their community.

        If anything it would make people afraid of purchases.

        Instead, it could have been hey lets support SRW, or write something positive about there service for people to check it out. (which is how the kick starter open-wheel game was portrayed)
        Evidently SRW is not lining your pockets with ad dollars. I don’t see you posting… IR slow growth rate could be making it in danger, or RF2 lack of online races posts a issue with lack of clients or so on.

  • Anonymous

    After reading about Simbin protecting content , I would love SRW releasing their content for crossmodding to save their great work for the future!

  • myvracelog

    this article is really done in Poor Taste.

    Is this a rag magazine or race news site?

    ”VirtualR has learned from several independent industry sources”.
    this just sounds like gossip. really shoddy to say the least.

    • Anonymous

      True. It is just gossip and already they claim user will be screwed over because they can’t use their content anymore. Maybe they launch a offline versions as a farewell gift to the customer or such. U never know. This isn’t a newstopic this is just filth like a English tabloid.

    • charliefairhead

      A little research and asking around the industry proves they got rid of most people, this past month. Again, Linkedin provides some confirmation with number of Ignite now looking for work, or thankfully already starting new businesses and ventures or even building a boat!

      As I understand it, it was all the Art Team + Others including QA, CSR and Marketing….. Not sure if it will sink, but it is on life support for now.

    • Arrniesan

      You are right is was/is gossip…Simraceway are back online. 🙂

    • FormulaLes
  • Alexandre Amirizian

    Certainly a bit scary when you realize that this is a venture from Silicon Valley started by a bunch of finance freaks with 17.5 million $ to spend somewhere… I used to love that game and couldn’t wait until Friday mornings to get a new car but now I went back to my ps3 as I really got bored of the AI and the lack of players in fun quick races… I wish they really used their money properly and invested in the development of an incredible game engine instead of wasting time and energy on an old system that cannot be optimized to fight with AC, pCARS, rF2, Forza or GT… Graphics attract new players and then physics make them stay…

  • Anonymous

    Just another day at VirtualRant…
    Good morning to you all!

  • Guy Moulton

    “bad news for sim racing as a whole but specifically for SimRaceWay’s customers who have poured a lot of money into their content ”

    Yeah, both of them are really upset. I do hope that they wrap up all that great content and sell it as a regular game for $30 and sell it on Steam.

  • me

    The fact they fired a lot of people does not 100% mean they are dying as a company. Especially the art staff. They could find better or cheaper contractor artists somewhere in the world. That may be a single reason.

  • Chris

    I’d like to shed some light on this topic. I was the car team director at Ignite and yes it’s true that the art team has been laid off. There was a pretty major setback in securing additional funding recently (through no fault of Ignite’s) and because there is an enormous backlog of yet to be released art assets (in particular, cars), it made financial sense to lay off the art team to save expenses and keep the core business going. I personally don’t foresee any problems with users not being able to continue running Simraceway well into the future, the CEO is committed to keeping the company alive and regardless of the attitude of some towards Simraceway, he is very passionate about achieving his goals.

    As for the comment below in regards to finding cheaper artists – Ignite started out with cheap artists but as they say ‘you get what you pay for’ and at the time the company was still very much in a learning curve. I was later hired to improve the quality of the car assets and I brought in some of the best vehicle artists available, all with loads of experience from companies such as Bizarre Creations, Eden, Climax, Sony, EA, Microsoft, iArtDrive and Dhruva. At one stage we were running a team of 25 car artists which was a BIG financial commitment from Ignite, and I’m sure you will have noticed a substantial increase in the accuracy/quality of the car assets over the past year in particular.

    Anyway I hope this helps answer some questions.

    • Guy Moulton

      “yes it’s true that the art team has been laid off.”

      “There was a pretty major setback in securing additional funding recently”

      That tells me all I need to know.

    • Anonymous

      17,5 million dollars worth? Come on. Other developers have been working with way way less and are not in the shape Ignite is ATM. I question if a lot of that was put into the development of a Wheel no one would want and a driving school no one can afford? Best approach is to keep things as simple as possible I guess. But really 17.5 million dollars?

      • Chris

        That’s a fair assumption, I can’t argue those points but I also can’t confirm them because I have no idea of where the budget was allocated.

  • Kendra Jacobs

    Quote Peter Koch-“Rob “Montoya” Prange is pCars web content admin. And because of that it can never be an independent news blog.”

  • Anonymous

    Sums this all up in a nutshell

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH2w6Oxx0kQ

  • charliefairhead

    old post, but I see in a month, we’ve not had any cars released as predicted. I haven’t seen any bug fixes including the memory issues, but I’ve now given up on the game.

    I also see some of the people i met at Sonoma Indycar the past two years including the Heads of Engineering Dan Duncalf and Ben Mitchell have also left.

    Not looking good is it… I suppose people are still depositing money….

  • Kekec

    As of 16hours ago, game died for me. I can’t start the game anymore and there is no word from developers on that matter. I wrote them an email, nothing. What an awesome support!

    • Anonymous

      The launcher hasn’t worked for me since this story went up. I’m not holding my breath for a fix. A company in this position needs to inspire confidence in it’s customers, and right now, I have zero.

      • Kekec

        I agree.

        They said they have some issues with SSL, and that it should be fixed in a couple of hours. Well, it has been almost 24h since my game died, not a single word from support team or in forums.

        I don’t think I’ll ever play this game again- not beacuse I don’t like it, but beacuse in my eyes, it just died.

    • Arrniesan

      Sad news, I play a lot of racing sim’s and Simraceway (for me) is one of the best. Since I joined it has just got better and better, in all areas.
      Never going to see my owed winnings now lol.

  • Arrniesan

    Wish they would tell us what is now becoming obvious; just like to move on now.

  • Arrniesan

    Simraceway is back up and running. 🙂

  • Abnormal

    True, it’s back up and running. I’ve decided to gave it one last chance, to see whats what. Hm, or was it boredom? Anyhow, I do like the game, physics, FF, I like the cars, track..

    But.. There is nothing to do in this game?! Ok, I can do a quick race- with a specific car, on a specific track. Fun for 2 hours. After a few days (not really sure), they change the car and the track- fun for 2 hours. After a week, I’ve seen it all (you only get 3 or 4 cars for free, so it gets boring quite fast). I don’t mind driving the same car for a month if need be, but on the same track all over and over again? Nop.

    Why can’t I select a car and a track to host a race? Why can’t I choose who will be able to race in my “session”, since more than 70% of players are rammers and in general, idiots. Im not being harsh, im not trying to offend anyone, but it’s true. I’ve done almost 100 races, and to be honest, I can remember maybe 10 races without people crashing like crazy in first corner. What a joy!

    Next, there are “test” events, to check out new cars etc, For a minute, just try to imagine all thoose sunday racers in Zondas! It’s not fun, it’s a total waste of time. Also, why give us the test drive of Pagani Zonda R? Just for an example- I like the car, sure, I would buy if i’ve had enough credits, no doubt. But what will I do with it? Use it for practice sessions?! Or maybe I can wait a few months and maybe get lucky if they choose the car in one of the events? I don’t see any point in buying the cars except to drive it in practice with a few real life mates around me, chasing the best lap time. Guess what, every single driving game can do that too. With more diversity. AND WITH PLUGINS TO SUPPORT MY HARDWARE!!! EVERY SINGLE RACING GAME SUPPORTS IT! Why not SimRaceWay?! Anyhow, there are a lot of cars, quite nice selection IMO, but what’s the point if I can’t race with them?! Again, only to do practice sessions?

    Then we have the events- nice idea, but… In order to participate, I would have to buy a car (lets say BMW M3 GT2 or whatever it’s called). It’s not cheap, so it would take a looooooooooooooooooooot of quick races to earn for it (im sure not going to pay real monies for it, especially not if I MUST put in 15$ to be able to buy a car for 1$!!!!). So ok, I grind like crazy to get my new ride! Yay! Now I can finaly enter the event! All that work just so I can drive against ghosts? Seriously?! Mind you, you can earn real money if you are really good- tho there is the next problem- a lot of people can’t even get to that money! Developers said they will work it out.. Unaceptable! If you give me an option to race for money, you better deliver or close the shop forever.

    Sure, there are Sunday Race Off’s, but that is one race per week. It is something, but far from being something to look forward to. I can do that in any other sim, almost whenever I like. You know, just click multiplayer, select race and voila. For anything more, we have countless leagues in almost every SIM game out there. It’s more serious, more competitive, and more imporntantly, it’s more fun.

    I just can’t seem to find anything in this game that would hook me up. Sure it’s fun for an hour or two, but that’s it (that is if I get into a race with decent drivers).

    I understand the game is in Beta… But it’s the lack of content. It’s the developers saying “soon”, “not yet”, to every single question you ask about the game and it’s future. I’ve also seen one of the players (in general game chat), asking the GM about the game and some feauters that were promised a loooong time ago- the response was unbelivable IMO- making jokes at him? Mocking the player?

    The biggest problem is the lack of MULTIPLAYER in a multiplayer racing game. After almost 1000 miles I can see why this article is here, and sadly, I believe it. I can understand why I’ve never seen more than 100 people online, and more imporntantly, I know why I unistalled it.

    Sorry for the long post, just my 2 cents about the game’s state and it’s future.

  • Arrniesan

    Update Service down at SRW, is this the end?.

  • mario smith

    Too many crashers

  • Andy

    December now and this game seems to be still running? What happened to your predicitons?

  • rauf00

    February, and still running 😉 I hope social part of game will grow, now its almost hotlap + random lobby short races…We need some clubs, customized lobby, and more CR earning option!

  • Ken Rodriguez

    The update service seems to have been down now for some time. Four emails later and I still have not heard from this group. Not looking good.

  • Ty Alighieri

    Hm, Simraceway lives on as of August 2014.

  • Omar Daniela Kattwinkel

    Still alive 🙂

  • Damian Black

    game is now dead

  • Depco

    Yup. No servers running quick races or events. Online portion to be shut down in the very near future to save money as the devs mull over their path forward…

  • Jorge Cunha

    Well, it has not shut down. It is up and running. Full steam ahead? no. but still running. There are quick races and events up. So just don’t make it’s funeral, go and check.

  • GamingCatastrophe

    cant download 🙁

  • 3Dpig

    Absolutely no players on the european servers based in netherlands.Dunno how it’s in the other part of the world?.

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