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Sao Paulo for rFactor 2 – Released

Image Space Incorporated have released Sao Paulo for rFactor 2, adding the world-famous Interlagos track to their simulation.

Image Space Incorporated have released Sao Paulo for rFactor 2, adding the world-famous Interlagos track to their simulation.

The rFactor 2 version of the popular Brazilian Formula One venue has been developed in co-operation with Brazilian sim experts Reiza Studios who have provided their base model of the track,

The track comes with the 2.68 mile Grand Prix layout, featuring two DRS-zones for Formula racing.

Located in suburban Sao Paulo, Interlagos is officially known as AutΓ³dromo JosΓ© Carlos Pace. The 2.677 mile circuits incorporates 15 corners and has hosted the final race of the Formula One World Championship in numerous seasons.

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  • sobaphen

    Ooohh yes!

  • Matthew Arnold

    Been very excited about this. In my top 5 tracks of all time πŸ™‚

    Thanks ISI πŸ™‚

  • Matthew Arnold

    OK, so I just ran a few laps at Sao Paulo and its fantastic.

    I think this is my favorite RF2 track now easily. It was always my GOTO track in GSCEx, and now its in RF2 as well im super happy.

    You can see the graphical improvement straight away in the crispness of everything (im sure the rf2 haters will say otherwise though).

    I just ran a Porsche with wets in a torrential rain storm and it was insane πŸ™‚

    Thanks again ISI. This new model of you working with other creators is brilliant. More of this PLEEEEASE πŸ™‚

    • Marc Collins

      It’s a great model, but there is a pretty limited supply of “other creators” out there with usable, high quality content.

  • Vinicius Matheus

    Does it run any good on AMD video cards now? tried RF2 quite a while ago and it did not run well enough πŸ™

    • sickbroski

      R9 270 here. Haven’t tried it yet. :S

    • D3

      7850 here, and the 14.4 drivers that AMD put out gave a really big boost for the framerates and microstuttering.

    • Matthew Arnold

      HD7970 here and its running really well for me πŸ™‚

    • Noel Hibbard

      When AMD finally threaded their drivers it gave a massive boost in performance in rF2. So make sure your on the latest drivers and give it another spin.

  • HammerX

    RF2, good FFB for sure in my opinion! Graphics, much to be desired for sure. This track, very low quality.

    • Matthew Arnold

      Did you say that when it was released for GSCEx??

      Its the same track!!!

      • http://batman-news.com Leeman

        It’s a fair criticism. GSCE is built on a 9 year old engine. This release for rF2, being next-gen, should come with bigger expectations. And, for the record, I’m a big fan of rF2, (love the recently released Tiger Moth circuit) but the graphics for this track are a disappointment.

      • Matthew Arnold

        I suppose it is a fair criticism. The graphics could be better.

        I just wish ISI would say something publicly about the way they feel about graphics. Whether or not they plan on bringing RF2’s underlying graphics engine more up to date. Because every time I hear a complaint about RF2 its about the graphics!

        The lack of respect they get in general from the community which correlates directly to sales(because i guarantee people aren’t buying rf2 when they see the crap people say in these and other forums) in my opinion may lead to these guys to one day close shop on the consumer grade sim stuff.

        I mean why bother trying to please a bunch of ungrateful, entitled sim racers when they can focus on possibly more lucrative endeavors for customers who appreciate the detail that goes into the vehicle simulation, not just the eye candy.

        To be honest, I don’t think they will upgrade the graphics engine anytime soon and i don’t care if they do, the only part of me that wishes they did is so i don’t have to hear people bitch about it all the time.

        If Reiza released RF2 under their name, people would be calling it the best thing EVER. Just saying!!

      • GOAT

        Best post ever about the ungrateful, entitled sim racers!!!

        Thank you for saying it straight!

      • HammerX

        Since when is pointing out the obvious and having an opinion on their graphics equates to being ungrateful? I just bought rf2, knowing they are not the up to par in that area. I purchased it because I know it’s a rock hard good simulation. We as sim racers are entitled as the end user to point out whats right or wrong. It doesn’t mean ungratefulness.

      • The Dark

        maybe its not about being ungrateful but how many times have we read something like “RF2, good FFB for sure in my opinion! Graphics, much to be desired for sure.”?
        its not like every needs to mention it for it to be valid.

        to be fair your post was nothing compared to the stupid reply by wajdi. i am sick of reading elitist posts like that which come from arrogance.

      • HammerX

        I don’t see how anyone could even begin to take what I said as elitist and I am far from arrogant. I don’t think you understand friend. That’s far from fair with such statements you should stop reading now so you don’t get sick. My god!

      • The Dark

        hmmm. maybe you should actually read my post a bit more carefully especially the entire 2nd paragraph.
        if you still come to the same conclusion where you are in error then let me know and i will tell you where you have gone wrong with your entire reply.

      • HammerX

        Ah I thought you were saying my post was arrogant and stupid. I stand corrected. I will delete what I stated so the record is correct.

      • The Dark

        no problem:)

      • http://racingrenders.com/ F1Racer

        bzzzzzzz πŸ™‚

      • noroardanto

        “If Reiza released RF2 under their name, people would be calling it the best thing EVER” I think you really missed the point. People praised Reiza for the amazing job they did on rF engine which I’m pretty sure they did it with ISI support. I can’t imagine when Reiza and ISI finally decided to play with rF2 engine.. must be epic

      • HammerX

        I don’t think I missed his point. It’s more apparent that mine is missed.

      • http://batman-news.com Leeman

        I’m not one of the people that are won over by graphics. If I were, I’d be spending my time racing FM5 (which looks drop-dead gorgeous, by the way). Physics and FFB are far more important to me, which is why I love rF2 (and GSCE, for that matter). However, that doesn’t mean I can’t post an opinion criticizing the graphics on occasion.

        If pCars comes out in March 2015 and has the physics of FM5 then I will be sorely disappointed.

        For all my occasional bitching about rF2, it is definitely one of my favorite sims. I love the physics, ffb and the real-road feature of the sim. And, if I understand correctly, it only runs Direct X9 which would explain some of the graphics issues.

        And, I’m on record as telling anyone that will listen, that not buying this sim based on graphics alone is a mistake. This sim belongs in every sim racers library, regardless of what they think of the graphics.

      • HammerX

        Funny thing about it is I have had R1 for a long time and I just bought Rf2 so I disagree with Mathew Arnold’s post. I own a lot of racing “sims”, there’s always something here or there any title. I simply was saying that the track looks like a step backwards. As I stated I however love the FFB in rf2 as well as a lot of other features. I didnt see me “bitch” as Mathew said in any way. I do totally agree with your comment Leeman, well said.

      • HammerX

        I don’t bloody own GSCEx. Shouldn’t assume.

    • wajdi nujeidat

      Well, if you want a very cool graphic you can always play Pcars and AC. Here it is only about realism,great physic/FFB and true racers!

      • HammerX

        I didn’t say rfactor2 wasn’t a good sim, I really prefer simulation. keep your panties on there bud. Just stating a fact. People get so emotional lol!

      • Andrea Candini

        Give it a rest with the “true racer” crap. People also want great graphic and they’ve all the reasons to ask for it, as we’re almost in 2015 and (as Assetto Corsa shows) you can have simulation and graphic together.

      • wajdi nujeidat

        AC doesn’t simulate a lot of thing that we have in the real life races…..yea it does have a good graphic and good physics, but what’s about all the others features?!

      • Andrea Candini

        That’s correct: it still misses important features that will come with time, I’ve never said the opposite. As such, it’s right to point out that it has to improve on those aspects, as much as it is to report that rF2 still needs work to be on par with modern games in terms of graphic.
        Each sim has its pros and cons, but driving one instead of the other doesn’t really make you belong to any “true simracer elite”, as many might not even be interested in endurance racing.

      • James Cook

        It’s crazy isn’t it? Some people speak as if good physics and good visuals are mutually exclusive in the sim racing world. It’s misplaced elitism to try and excuse rF2’s shortcomings as acceptable.

        …and I’m a fan of rF2 too.

      • Sim Antics

        I can afford to cut Wajdi some slack for his posts in rF2 related threads because I urged him to post within them and everyone FTMP needs a home topic to direct their focus toward. He thinks I am a hater maybe he will some day see that I am very diversified as many others here are as well

      • noroardanto

        Ok rF2 is the best got it

  • Pablo Coronel

    Reiza+ISI=your mom

  • http://batman-news.com Leeman

    The track feels terrific but, for some reason, really just does not look very good. The grass textures are awful. They look far less green on my PC compared to the pics above. Not sure why. It’s a shame too because the track itself is clearly well done. But, the graphics, man, they’re very disappointing. Somehow they look even more dated than the GSCE version of the track. Just a little better quality (or maybe even color) of grass textures would go a long way here.

    • Matthew Arnold

      The texture quality will probably be one of the first things to take a knock if you dont run on MAX graphics settings.

      These screens were undoubtedly taken whilst running on those MAX settings.

      What settings are you using?

      • http://batman-news.com Leeman

        Yes, trust me, I’m running on max settings. Somehow the grass textures just look awful for some reason.

      • Gui Cramer

        It won’t look good unless you run at least at 4pm due to the lighting system compounded on top of something impacting grass which will be addressed in the next build. GSCE looks better indeed.

      • http://batman-news.com Leeman

        Thanks for the tip. I’ll make the adjustment in sim.

    • TC

      That’s the first thing i noticed too.Grass is yellow not green like in article’s screenshots…

      Second thing i’ve done is do a lap in GSC’s S Paulo and it looks far better in this aspect.

    • http://www.entropyxel.com/ Tuttle

      It has been reported as a known issue in the release page. The grass is looking bad because the new terrain shader has a small bug. Will be fixed with next build.

      Cheers.

  • ftrracingtv

    This just looks like a 100% port from GSCE not to say that version looks bad but doesn’t look rf2 standard still fun to drive

  • john

    From official site:

    “This should allow content of DECENT quality to become available to rFactor 2 users at a much faster rate.”

    They know this track is not up to quality of their from scratch build tracks. They just have a chance to release something with less effort, because of good relationship and collaboration with other studio. Is something that help fill the hole between main projects.

    • Guilherme Silva

      IMO this track looks better than any other track ISI offered till now.

  • Noel Hibbard
    • http://batman-news.com Leeman

      Hmmm. That looks more green than what I’m getting. Perhaps it’s a time of day setting. Looks like you’ve got some longer shadows, so early morning or later afternoon, I’m guessing. I’ll have to experiment a bit. Thanks for posting this.

      • JES

        It looks better mostly because this is an early morning or late afternoon video, as in every video/screenshot that ISI posted. If you race under standard conditions, around 10-2 PM or so, result in terms of graphics is unfortunately not very impressive.

    • Michael Brandt

      Is this B860?

  • Marc Collins

    In-sim it looks and feels great, except for the grass. And yes it is a known “bug” with an update to grass shader coming in the next build. The difference with ISI is that they would go ahead and release this new track with knowingly worse-looking grass when they could have just held it back and released it with the next build a la iRacing and presumably the grass will look normal/reasonably impressive at that point.

    What I love is that half the community says they are graphics-challenged morons for doing this, while the hardcore minority say they are heroes for not following the console game graphics-is-all path. They definitely do not do themselves favours in the marketing department with moves like this, but we get a great track a few weeks earlier as a result. You tell me which is better? I know that any time they don’t release content, everyone is grumbling that there aren’t enough tracks and cars available in rF2!

    • Matthew Arnold

      Mate im past trying to understand people here now.

      ISI cannot win either way.

      • Michael Brandt

        They dont want to win – they just want to do things like they feel like. Take it or leave it it seems. Some day it will be a great sim but damn its a frustrating path…

      • JES

        Well, there is always something broken in software as complex as rF2. Even AC release candidate has had about 5 hotfix patches released in a week, mostly to fix bugs. There is no bulletproof way of having 0 bugs in a release build, all that could be done is to improve the updating process.

      • Michael Brandt

        Thats exactly my point. Because ISI dont release hot fixes the bugs of this build will be there until the next build. This could be months. The next build will have other bugs – its the story of RF2 so far – bugs replaced by other bugs. If they would just fix these obvious things with hot fixes I would be very happy with RF2.

      • Marc Collins

        I agree that a hotfix scheme would reduce frustration over small, annoying, but seemingly never resolved bugs and glitches.

      • Mr. Snowf1ake

        What’s strange is that ISI’s RF2 updater is actually pretty good (except for when they accidentally remove the ability for people without the online to use it). It wouldn’t be much of a hassle for us to install bug fixes and such yet there seems to be no push for such things.

    • Michael Brandt

      How about not releasing a build with broken shaders in the first place? I cant believe they do stuff like that. When things like that get reported they just respond “yeah we know – will be solved in next build”. So so sloppy and I hope that changes because its causing me to not enjoy this otherwise fine sim.

    • S- mann

      Idd lots are complaining about the graphics ok wud be nice to have great looking graphics and reel feel sim but if not possible i prefer reel feel sim cuz i wanna be racing tarmac not grass farming and driving a lawn mower.

  • JES

    Interlagos is a nice addition to rF2. Unfortunately it doesn’t look great, see video below. It’s mostly about rF2 HDR and graphics engine, which makes it look much worse than the 7 year of age gMotor 2.0 used by GSCE.

    It’s not only about the grass shader bug, same problems can be seen on start/finish straight. Video taken on same time of day with same settings in both sims. Shame that graphics are so outdated as rF2 is still my favourite sim by far.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvywhM9SHtE&feature=youtu.be

    • BSNismo

      I’ve yet to find a track conversion that looks good in rF2, nords by Tosch is nice in parts with decent settings but has odd coloured trees etc. This track reminds me of the VLM tracks really that have been converted, something is just not right with them visually, maybe just me but the VLM stuff is not great in rF2. Have to say though that this track at 60fps and over it looks better than GSC to my eyes. Youtube really seems to be unflattering to rF2 for whatever reason with regards to motion, hopefully the devs can work out why it happens. Tiger Moth and Mores as examples I really think show the quality ISI can deliver.

      • JES

        It looks the same for me in the uncompressed video on my hdd. Sky is too dark, clouds look bad, road is too greenish, curbs lack color and contrast, trees lack contrast, etc. It would be interesting to test rF2 tracks like Indy and Silverstone on rF1 based engine like GSCE, to compare if they also look better. It wouldn’t surprise me, because the problem mostly lies in graphics engine, not the track itself. All the ISI Interlagos videos/screenshots are taken at around 8 AM in low-sun conditions. If you race in normal daytime condition (10-2 PM), result is this.

      • http://www.youtube.com/user/OldAgedGamer Steve Bird

        Nice to see you back mate πŸ™‚

      • RichardHessels

        Youtube compression of fast moving objects.. makes everything looks flat and without any detail.

      • wajdi nujeidat

        Agree with you about conversions. Most of tracks conversions aren’t good, but few of them are well done like this one
        http://youtu.be/0rRgarRPC3o

      • Mr. Snowf1ake

        You overshot the same turn that I always overshoot! πŸ™‚ Love that track. For those of you who haven’t tried it, you must try Nuno’s Zandvoort: http://www.simracing.endless-resources.org/index.php?topic=64.0

      • Alan Dallas

        Thanks for the link. I started to look for a good rF2 Zandvoort a couple days ago but got distracted. Been itching to try the DW-12 on it. I’ve done loads of laps on Zandvoort in R3E with the Audi 90 IMSA GTO. Now to get my open wheel fix.

      • HammerX

        Won’t install for me for some reason and it was really hard to find as that link will not allow me to download it. Any suggestions? πŸ™

      • Marc Collins

        What is it a conversion from?

  • coops17

    reading through a lot of comments ppl want graphics over everything else. i want realism more than anything graphics are a small part of that not a big part or most of us would be back racing arcade games on console’s for graphics.
    remember simulation craps on pretty arcade looking gaming any time of the week.

    • HammerX

      Well if you look at military training sims and or racing trainers for the real drivers, especially ( pre 1990’s) even earlier when there were no computers, we are talking WWII here) in the past, the graphics were crap but the physics are dead on. There’s a reason for that. There is a fins line of balance with the two, you can have more of one thing at the expense of another. That line is diminishing with the hardware being able to handle all of the computation required to meet both needs. Today that line is smaller but not the point that pleases everyone as such you have companies that ride one side of the line or the other. One sim offers more of this or more of that and some in the middle as close as they can get it. Most so called “sim” racers who complain graphics or simulation are not really complaining they just want the best of both worlds, and that’s going to take time. Some replies to the post’s I have made have missed this understanding and are too one sided in this understanding. Just my opinion.

    • Pedro Pedrosa

      Exactly what I have been thinking. Thought the modding community was more hardcore. rF2 has the best FFB, the best virtual tires, the best AI, has realroad, and other features. In the end, almost the entire community is making mods for Assetto Corsa because it has better graphics and is easier to mod…

      • coops17

        if it had all rf2’s features i bet it would not be so easy to mod.

      • S- mann

        agree and imo AC is same as Grand turismo No SIM cuz what one can do with a car in AC totally inpossible in real life Also when driving in AC i wanna push the car on my screen manually cuz it totally has no speed feeling in it . Graphics Good but graphics dont drive a car

  • Godo

    Graphics could be better for sure but what are we looking for, great sensations or replay visuals ? RF2 do the job, best feeling on the sim market.

    • http://racingrenders.com/ F1Racer

      Well done on your last post. It just earned you a ban.

  • Alan Dallas

    OK, this track is as fun as a day on a nude beach in the DW-12. Or any open wheeler for that matter. Just can’t get enough of it. ISI needs to patch that terrain shader bug though. Kinda detracts from the visuals.

  • Kev

    LOL what a bunch of spoiled brats. I had several amazing online races here this weekend in the amazing NSX sweating profusely and literally shaking for 15+ minutes AFTER each race as it was so intense and come here to find so much adolescent whining about graphics. My goodness what a bunch of immature sissies.

    • Michael Brandt

      Dude chill with the name calling – if you bother to read this thread you will see that the tone is proper and the points are valid. Most here express that RF2 is a good sim but have an issue with the graphics. To some graphics doesnt matter and to others it matters. No bashing until you came along.

      • Guest

        Says the guy who can’t enjoy something because of “broken” shader…

      • Michael Brandt

        Whats your point?

    • XXVIIRACING

      I know right. What most people are complaining about will be fixed in the next build anyway. Apart from the grass the track looks fantastic.

    • osella

      Best way to get a lot of likes on this site? Wait two days after a news is posted and act adult by saying how you love everything and everyone who dislikes any aspect of any sim is immature kid.

      Dude, in this case people were just expressing opinions, it’s only you who is crying like an immature sissy… so you had a great time, great, but different people want different things.

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