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rFactor 2 – First Official Video Trailer

rFactor 2 – First Official Video Trailer

The guys over at InsideSimRacing.tv have gotten their hands on a brand new video trailer of Image Space Incorporated’s upcoming rFactor 2 simulation.

The well-made trailer shows an action-packed classical Formula One race on the historic streets of Monte Carlo, giving us a first taste of what to expect of the upcoming title and its stock-content.

Following the video trailer, Darin Gangi & Shaun Cole provide their analysis of the trailer so makes sure to not miss out on the video below.

rFactor 2 will introduce various improvements to the modding-friendly simulation including weather, driver animations and a refined graphics engine alongside plenty of current and historic motor racing content. In aΒ recent blog, ISI’s Tim Wheatley hinted at an upcoming public beta phase for the title.

  • Joca Nadalist

    Its o.k

  • stabiz

    That was a very good video with a very cool music choice. πŸ™‚  

  • AeroMechanical

    Neat. πŸ™‚

    Good atmosphere there.  It’s all a little too moodily produced to get a good look at the sim, but that looks like a modern GPL complete with all the character that sim had (but nothing, despite technical superiority, has since matched).

  • Philip Antonia

    Holy Crap!!!

    Love the 60’s F1’s. Hopefully the need for GPL2 will no longer be just a dream πŸ™‚ .

  • Nathan Robinson

    Looks nice but the song gave me a headache so i had to mute my volume lol.

  • Ernie

    The old Monaco looks stunning. 😎   And the cars are damn sexy. πŸ™‚

  • Carbonfibre

    Wasn’t a great trailer really. I would have preferred an on-board lap with engine sounds! Then we could have seen rF2 without bad video effects, shaky fraps footage and bad music.

    rF2 does need marketing though! so definitely don’t make this the only trailer. An exciting intro with all the new features would be outstanding once it’s ready for release. πŸ˜€

  • stabiz

    Lol, I was waiting for that.

  • Gary S.

    Someone didnt get the reference

  • Monk

    It’s not OK
    It’s an amazing trailer.. perhaps the best Ive seen in sim racing history and anyone with at least a minimal artistic view can see the obvious.

    Best of luck ISI, you might not have the fireworks but you have the passion and it’s the only thing that matter πŸ™‚

  • Alexandr Fet

    C.A.R.S they pushed

  • Mike Oppenheimer

    Fantastic. πŸ˜€

  • Hompe

    I have to agree that it would be nice to have some pure ingame footage where we can really see it like we would ingame, but on the other hand.. trailers like this makes me wanna jump into a 68-69 f1 car and make it scream around monaco until the engine parts come flying out of the rear (gpl style)

  • pastor ted haggard

    Roll on the next 6 years of simracing.

    simbin – sold out.
    slightly mad studios – console based garbage.
    iracing – a total rip off for what you get, massively overrated in terms of physics, and hardly anyone to play with
    netkar pro – under developed, and hardly anyone playing.
    lfs – completely dead?

    rfactor. Thank the simracing gods for rfactor. The ISI team KNOW what we want. And they are giving it to us in spades with rfactor 2.  

  • Ricoo

    I agree great trailer. πŸ™‚

  • Ricoo

    We had been waiting for something like that since so long. Great looking. πŸ™‚

    2 D characters look a bit old school and some background a bit low resolution. Every thing else looks great, cars, tracks…

    With Monaco and Spa rFactor 2 will be very interesting.

  • Monk

    LFS isn’t dead at all.. the devs clearly said they are still working on the sim but the lack of tracks in long term will definitively hurt unless they start investing on this matter.
    As for netkar pro doesn’t matter how much peoples are playing, it’s the quality of the handling that matters in sim racing, unlike massive online rpgs.

    As for the trailer at 0.33 we can clearly notice screaming hymn to the best racing movie of all time: Grand Prix (1966). Monaco in the background at the exit of the tunnel is sublime.

    Im stunned by the quality of this trailer !

  • Nicolas Grignon

    Great physics, great cars, great track…. but 24 hours too late… πŸ˜‰ , From a photographer point of view, not impressed at all by the graphic engine… looks old generation with a lot of bad SFX effects to hide the old stuff… ISI will have to really work something out in this department VERY QUICK if they want to stay in the race. Their competition just got me badly hooked yesterday….

  • GTEvo

    roflmao!
    i known that, that Isi start there Commercial Offensive after the shocking CARS Vids^^

    Amazing..thats all what we Racer want 😎

    gogogogo Guys!

  • Nicolas Grignon

    Not dead but awfully silent…. and during this time the competition is getting their new babies out… Hope Scaven and Co will show something soon like their first demo: something like yesterday’s SMS surprise… something nothing less than revolutionary.

  • Ogre

    Spectacular. Car movement seems so natural, like you’re watching a movie. OK, graphics are weaker than C.A.R.S, but I don’t have any problem with rFactor 1 either. With a good mod it still looks good for me (Supra on Mid Ohio for example).

  • shum94

    Ok i’m unable to judge most of anything a sim is all about. I can’t tell much from this video besides we will able to do cool replays ?

    Some inboard view, some sound of the car etc…

  • WiZPER

    Remember, this is still based on a WIP candidate – HDR and other effects are still not fully implemented.

  • Nathan Robinson

    a little competition brings out the best in everyone, or worst πŸ˜› I’ve really been enjoying the classic open wheeler on imola the last few days but that doesnt mean i wont be excited for rfactor. It’s just that SMS has given us something to go with and that feeds teh appetite much more than trailers ever can. It’s exciting to see ISI getting their butts in gear though and i’m sure that rfactor 2 will jaw drop me just as much as this C.A.R,S. mania has in teh past few days πŸ™‚

  • Nathan Robinson

    agree completely nicolas. That lotus is hard to put down even if its only a beta.

  • Montoya

    It’s actually pre-alpha πŸ˜‰

  • Rolands SvΔ“tiΕ†Ε‘

    Actually looks wonderful. Perfect combination of racing and music. Car movement looks very fine and detalisation of the era of old racing feels good.  
    BUT, say me please. ISI, did you fix that annoying stuttering free camera movement?  Even DSLR camera without stabilisation is better than this sticky cam. That was is rFactor 1, and it will be in rFactor 2?! I hope that they really have implented some camera smoothing option for free cam.

  • crosschris

    yeah that supra mod…http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMPf4L35XAM IS really good!!!! (sorry)

  • noneofyourbusiness

    I really like the road reflection, glad they’re making more historic content too.

  • crosschris

    Makes me wish I was single and jobless when it is released…more time to play you see!?

  • Rolands SvΔ“tiΕ†Ε‘

    If it’s even so. I am really out of believe that they will make impressive change on visual side of rFactor 2.That’s simply impossible. Mind that the “World premiere” trailer is already realeased, so the main look and visual feeling of this simulator can’t be dramatically changed in good way. The graphic base of this is mentally outdated. Of course this is only about graphics, we still have sounds, physics and feeling of being racing in this sim.  πŸ˜‰

  • Jos

    i dont want to see any ugly colour filters…I wanna see how the game looks like, pretty lightning effects like that of gt5, ok thats not gonna happen but still πŸ˜›

  • GeraArg

    Awesome.

  • Julien Apruzzese

    Good misinformation about iRacing…

  • RJC_pt

    Very, very nice πŸ™‚

  • melanieuk

    Take a closer look, some are animated.

  • Robert GΓΆdicke

    One thing I HATE about the trailer…
    The encoding! It seems the footage was captured at a different framerate than the trailer was encoded in afterwards, producing those super-nasty ghosting effects which make everything that moves blurry and half-transparent. Look at GeraArg’s pictures, for example the rims in the fourth picture… I sense some 30fps capturing and 29.97fps encoding or vice versa. πŸ™‚

    Other than that: I love the cars, the track, the music. 0:08-0:40 is giving me goosebumps. I like the music in combination with the visuals.
    Even though I love SMS’s ambitious project which I enjoy as well, I honestly believe that rFactor 2 will be THE platform for me in terms of controls and physics (even though C.A.R.S. is a very early pre-alpha build and has a lot potential to improve the handling department). Graphics-wise not as jaw-dropping as C.A.R.S., but beautiful nontheless. Can’t wait for full weather and LiveTrack simulation! πŸ™‚

  • Timothy Wheatley

    The software doesn’t look how it will look yet. What would be the need to show you something you won’t see?

  • Timothy Wheatley

    Yeah the heat haze on the surfaces (including the cars) is native to the software and wasn’t post production.

  • Nathan Robinson

    My bad, thanks for that montoya. At least you didnt delete my post this time πŸ˜‰

  • Timothy Wheatley

    Maybe if they fix it in the movie, Grand Prix, we’ll work on it. πŸ™‚

    Some of the camera positions and movements are exact replicas in this movie, including the leows hairpin overhead that you’re probably referring to. πŸ˜‰

  • Timothy Wheatley

    Gjon doesn’t really follow what others do. I assume you think this was put together overnight? This was started even before HDR was working properly, which is why it isn’t active in the video. πŸ™‚

  • Timothy Wheatley

    It’s probably worth remembering it has been reencoded by ISR, and some minimal artifacts are visible on the video as they sit infront of the camera. We’ll be posting our original for download tomorrow.

  • Jos

    fair enough.

  • Timothy Wheatley

    Glad someone noticed the Grand Prix stuff… LOL How can people not see it? πŸ™‚

  • Timothy Wheatley

    The ‘shaky camera effects’ exactly replicate the ones in Grand Prix, the movie, which is why they are there.

  • Timothy Wheatley

    Indeed. The first time you notice a track marshall turning his head to watch you drive by is one of the most freakish experiences you can imagine.

  • noneofyourbusiness

    I kinda figured that one out from past previews, little attentions like this make a sim great. πŸ™‚

  • Robert GΓΆdicke

    I will download it Tim. The original file will have some historical value in a couple of years, hehe. πŸ™‚

  • shum94

    Don’t tell me that you asked them to do a trailer.
    Ask Stabiz and we would have something way way better than this.

    Stabiz or 6e66o

  • F1Racer

    Well, apart from the overly specular and shiny tyre treads, it’s looking pretty damn good.  
    I hope for the final we have matte tyre treads because I doubt they’ll shine too much after being on track for a few corners.

    Cars look great and I did like the exit of Monaco’s tunnel.   Cannot WAIT !!!

  • Ricoo

    Agreed, animated 3D characters are great.  πŸ™‚

  • Timothy Wheatley

    ? No, they had to REencode it to put themselves into it.

  • Timothy Wheatley

    Probably tough to see, but there’s a LOT of anims at the track, too. Boats, marshalls that watch you as you drive by, etc. Lots of 3d crowd with the 2ds, etc.

  • shum94

    All this site gets it first is annoying. Cant even encode it right.

  • stabiz

    Thanks, shum, but I think this video is really good. I doubt I would have done a better job. πŸ™‚

  • stabiz

    Check out the rest of his list, he is trying hard, I`ll give him that.

  • stabiz

    Comedy.

  • stabiz

    Hehe, why did you delete that, Carbon?

  • pastor ted haggard

    Whats dumb about this is, they show a trailer which, ultimately, is just showing graphics more than anything. Even though we KNOW that rfactor 2, compared to the latest games, will be graphically weak. They should have focused on the stuff that we know rfactor 2 will do better than any other game: the physics, the handling, the moddability, etc…   they should have taken stock real life footage of a 1960’s monaco GP and then zoomed in to an onboard in the game – now That would have been an amazing trailer.  It would have immediately shown the game trying to be a serious driving game, drawing comparisons from reality. That’s the differentiator between this and gt5/forza/mainstream titles.  why do these developers have no imagination?

  • Carbonfibre

    We just have different opinions on how the marketing should be done. Attracting the sim-ancestors who owned GPL and watched the film is only one niche.

  • Captain Underpants

    LOL. The Haggard Pastor strikes again! Sounds like someone cloud use a hug.

  • Ricoo

    You are a bit harsh. This trailer shows indeed good graphics with nice track surface, effects and some nice textures, but it shows also a never announced great historic track, and even physics since you can see the cars sliding in some corners, close to spining but still under control.

  • Hoopstar

    Pastor – how do you “KNOW” this game will be graphically weak comapred to other games?  Do you work for ISI?

    I have problems with people like you who sprout of one liners as if they were facts when clearly you have nothing other than what the developers have ALLOWED us to see… which is nothing more than I or anyone else on here knows.

    But then again.. I think you missed the whole point of the trailer – which is to set a mood of the game and show of some graphics capabilities with respect to the Cult movie, Grand Prix..

  • shum94

    Ahaha you’re too modest. Without considering the direction and the music choice, only on the encoding you’re way way better.

    This video is so freakin awesome, its art my friend.

  • Carbonfibre

    Lol you saw that Stabiz? I just get overly judgemental when it comes to video editing, then I type something that makes me look a precocious brat because I don’t like melodramatic trailers, when I should be impartial.
     
    I have too much passion for rF2 getting their marketing right, especially since C.A.R.S came to life just yesterday and things will most likely go well for them. I want rF2 to be as big as GT5, (unrealistic as that is sadly) and that means being sold like GT5.

  • shum94
  • kiwi

    as always I dont understand all the hating in the slightest…
    considered that hdr etc havnt been added yet this looks incredible!
    I like it alot, because it trys to look realistic, the images arnt flooded by too much stupid postFX.

  • Aaron Carlisle

    The atmosphere around this track is unmatched by ANY other racing game I’ve ever seen.  It just looks so alive, and natural.  I can’t wait to see what it looks like when all of the post processing is implemented!

  • F1Racer

    Are we so narrow minded that the only thing we can do is constantly compare one title with another and not appreciate each on it’s own merits.  Sim Racing isn’t all about comparisons…. they are so… YAWN!!

  • Timothy Wheatley

    hehe… The community is all about comparisons. πŸ™‚  We’re OK with that. Long-term we’ll go side by side with what anybody wants us to, no problem with people doing that.

  • stabiz

    True dat, I have never had any interest in old F1 (or new, in sims). But there are lots of other goodies, and I guess there will be more trailers, considering its just going into beta next.

  • Timothy Wheatley

    Would you like to contact Warner Brothers (who now own the licensing rights to Grand Prix after MGM sold it) and discuss pricing? πŸ™‚

    When rFactor 2, which somehow you know things that we haven’t seen ourselves yet, is actually showing final gfx, I’d welcome it being compared on it’s merits graphically.

  • Timothy Wheatley

    I’d probably also argue that the fact you’ve just seen a video of 1966 Monaco in a 2011 simulation is the very definition of imagination.

  • Silly(c)One

    Don’t waste your time on him, he’s just saying the most shocking things possible to make you react.
    A master troll desguised as pastor… wait, that’s not a desguise πŸ˜‰

  • Timothy Wheatley

    Gjon is… How to describe… Minmalist, maybe? He’d quite happy just release it and let you guys do the discussions which lead to the sales in the early stages. As I’ve said in another reply on here, he doesn’t “follow” in the way he does things or what he creates. It’s awesome to work with though!

    That’s why gfx waited until this stage of development. While many devs would probably do graphics first so their WIPs look like final quality. It’s just a different way around things. πŸ™‚  Most of the previews we’ll be making will be to announce new content, and those will probably come along after you guys already have your hands on it.

  • Silly(c)One

    Guys, let’s not forget that rFactor2 will be available much before C.A.R.S. and will still be the first go to platform for modders. I bet we’ll have tens if not hundreds of mods available for rFactor2 when C.A.R.S. will be released…

    I’m as blown away as everybody with C.A.R.S., but it’s good to keep a little perspective. We’ve been waiting for rFactor2 for years, now that it’s just around the corner, let’s give him his chance !

  • Silly(c)One

    Unlike women coz it gets too complicated, you can love 2 race sims at the same time πŸ˜‰

  • Timothy Wheatley

    People have their opinions, it’s OK. Maybe it’s your turn to give them your opinion? πŸ˜‰

  • Timothy Wheatley

    Stuff happens. As long as Scawen has fingers I’m sure he’s working on it. It would be very hard to see something that advanced just die…

  • Silly(c)One

    I like it @1:23 when the cars are passing over the bridge, it feels so solid, so 3 dimensional ! That’s a gripe I’ve always had with gMotor2 and all the sims of that generation, it always felt “cardboard” like.

    Also the lighting, even without HDR, is amazing. The light really feels like it does in the south of France, and we’ll be blessed with changing weather too ? Wow.

    @F1Racer : About the shiny tires, do you remember the video where ISI showed tire deformation ? Maybe they didn’t use the feature at the time they made the video… 

    If we go past the first impression, this video is full of amazing cues as of how rFactor2 is going to be… I for one can’t wait !

  • Jim Slimjim Cassi

    I just jizzed in my pants.

  • EmptyBox

    Is it odd I cannot stand the thought of that type of car in anything that isn’t built by Dave K and co?

    In the comments below, expect to see someone yelling at me for that comment.

    But really, it isn’t that ISI ain’t good enough or whatever, just…. Just like…. Trying to… I dunno. Hard to explain. Been there, done that. And no matter how good rF2 may end up being, just… Not going to recapture what GPL did. It just ain’t, for a variety of reasons. I don’t think anyone will understand what I am trying to say, so go back to the second statement about the guys who are sure to complain below.

  • EmptyBox

    That said, needs more engine sounds. With some engine sounds, it’d remind me of Grand Prix (the movie) which would get the blood going. πŸ™‚

  • Jim Slimjim Cassi

    so your saying no other sim will be anything close to GPL.?
    or GPL should only have the rights to have these cars… because that is what it feels like..
    someone else is drinking from the holy grail…  oh no!!!!!
    GPL had it’s day, it’s time to move on please.

  • f12bwth

    Way to go ISR on pointing a camera at your television because you couldnt do it any better way.

  • ZombieJim

    The way the cars move is so fluid and real… This has topped my excitement over C.A.R.S.

  • Marcelo Amaral

    iRacing 2.0(?) screw things up with the NTM rFactor 2 takes forever both must be going crazy on CARS specially knowing people already are getting hooked up but it πŸ˜‰

  • Hoopstar

    Lets not forget one has a complete business model and the other is still chasing around for cash πŸ˜‰

  • Marcelo Amaral

    so dalai lama or whatever is fine then! physicians just came out to say Eisnten theory is wrong which changes completely the way the universe age has to be calculated and few years that will be obsolete again so your religion is pretty weak after all!

  • Marcelo Amaral

    so dalai lama or whatever is fine then! physicists just came out to say Eisnten theory is wrong which changes completely the way the universe age has to be calculated and few years that will be obsolete again so your religion is pretty weak after all!

  • Marcelo Amaral

    so dalai lama or whatever is fine then! physicists just came out to say Eisnten theory is wrong which changes completely the way the universe age has to be calculated and few years that will be obsolete again so your religion is pretty weak after all!

  • Ogre

    I don’t mean the effects, but the 3D models. I don’t think it’ll be improved, and you can see the polygons on the side mirrors. But as I said, I don’t care. It’s the physics, the overall experience which counts for me. And I’m sure, that it will rock! 😎

  • Denis P.

    And no matter how good rF2 may end up being, just… Not going to recapture what GPL did.
    Mainly for the reason that you’ve been there and done that and not going to become 12 years younger. Lighten up!

  • Dave A.

    Can we leave InsideMoneyRacing.tv out next time and only present the “trailer”?

  • spacekiller

    Very nice, looks very promissing!
    Btw. Christmas is coming, I hope it will be available until the end of year…  πŸ˜‰

  • moreyummystuff

    Excellent, so since all the visual updates are missing essentially that was a video of rf1-quality footage through overdone post-editing. I smell panic in the air.

  • EmptyBox

    Nonsense. GPL is old, very old. There are several superior sims on the market, most every one of them I am playing. I’ve long since moved on from GPL, outside the pure fun aspect it gives.

    I think I’ve figured out why. Nothing will recreate the entire package – until we see someone makes a GPL2 or what have you. The package – the menus, ai that had some hints of personality as well as the vibe. Has everything to do with just about everything but the physics themselves.

    The cars demand a whole package. To do any less is to do them an injustice.

  • Mark

    “complete business model” a.k.a. Two and a Half Men working on a sim for 5 years in a “garage office”. Judging by the members count in WMD forums (probably hitting 5k today), C.A.R.S. (most likely) already has as much cash for its development as the development budgets of both rF1 & rF2 combined.

    Oh then there’s the “mod” thing… They are “open to mods” because they don’t have any other option. They’re simply hoping that modders will make content for their content-less game. The problem with this approach is that the vast majority of mods for RFactor 1 suck. People are making tracks and (even worse) cars out of thin air without any knowledge of the real thing whatsoever (and even if they own the car in question, its still a daunting task to reproduce its handling in a videogame). Why doesn’t ISI just make a vehicle dynamics simulation engine and then sell that? … oh wait, they did that already πŸ˜›

  • Jux

    Well, I remember, already years ago, when the ISI guy told in interview that they will stick to the same graphics engine. What rF2 is mainly about, is improvement of rF1 in multiplayer/mods hassle, new physics engine, wheather engine and hopefully rally mode.

    Considering all that, I am very impressed how much they have improved the graphics in the same old engine that rF1 is useing.

    C.A.R.S. is fantastic stuff, but I am quite sure, that they have a long way to go to be a complete game. rF2 hopefully is released at the end of this year and I think it is realistic to thing that CARS will be realeased at the end of next year.

  • My Site (click to edit)

    I thought the sixties vibe was captured fantastically and the trailer was great. As a younger player more modern cars would have appealed to me more but I have never been so excited to drive historic cars!!! keep up the good work! The animated characters in their suits etc gave it a real sense of an event!!

  • Philip Antonia

    Having driven a certain recent release, I’m confident that rFactor 2 will still be the best Race Sim we’ll have, even if it doesn’t have next gen graphics!!!

  • Peicheck LΓ³pez

    I agree! Stabiz FTW! good video by the way, dont like very much old f1 machinery but think will be worth to try πŸ˜‰
    still waiting!

  • Patrick Giranthon

    I don’t know what to think about this.
    Monaco track is better to do a trailer than Monza for sure.
    It is not an “ingame” and “onboard” lap and the trajectories seem weird.
    So the main point is how will be the handling (with realfeel I hope)?
    If I was ISI, I would have made the same movie to keep the fans awaked…

  • Ogre

    You lucky SOB. πŸ™‚

  • Markus Ott

    iRacing is the best racing sim that exists. Sry to mess around with your dreams.

  • Hybrid

    Comment on RD from Tim.

    “No it is still TBA 2011. You’ll be able to get your hands on it this year. Obviously the open beta will be fairly soon, but the unknown is how long that testing will last. I would still assume 2011 for the initial release (after the beta) too, but it’s never going to be 100%.
    But like I said, if you want to get in early and in 2011 for sure, you will be able to.”

  • Nathan Robinson

    I think the reason a lot of people are hating on rfactor 2 is because of how long it’s been in development. 3 years ago when i first started sim racing is when i first heard about it and there was a lot of buzz from the community that i raced in. Since then its been nothing but a random picture here and a new update there. Then this amazing looking thing called C.A.R.S. makes a splash. Within a few months of this announcement they have a solid build for people to try and we are all excited for what will be the final product. I’ve never had more fun doing practice laps as i have with C.A.R.S. I’ll also say though that just because rfactor 2 has been taking FOREVER to get here ( kinda like the brett favre saga, will he or wont he be back) I’ll still buy it and love it. ISI just kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth thats all. I can remember a bunch of people saying it would be out 2 christmas’s ago, then last christmas, now by this christmas blah blah blah. I’m not gonna get my hopes up. There is chunk of change sitting around in a safe place for its release though because we all know its going to be great once it finally makes landfall πŸ™‚

  • Roger Owen

    Still bent double and on tail end of a little scream from same Slim ;-p

  • Dave A.

    So why you read this news, even this side? If iRacing is the only game for you, there is no need to look around.

  • Hybrid

    You cant offcourse blame ISI for that. People get excited when they heard that ISI was going to make rFactor 2, 3 Years ago wich everyone knew was going to happen. Its also offcourse easier to keep a new project silent then a sequal for a game everybody played. πŸ™‚

    They release date stuff was more caused by us where ISI said it was not going to come out in 2010.
    Still people had there hopes up it came out in 2010. πŸ™‚

  • Captain Underpants

    Hey Tim, I reckon you guys should give the Haggard Pastor a job there at ISI. He clearly knows more about your business than you do. Imagine having access to all that expertise!
      πŸ™‚

  • Arnold-Carter Kingpong Wong

    Actually I have a big hope on SimBin…………

  • Kosmo

    Two and a half men made sim that is still respected & played by many even though its 5 years old.
    And what SMS did already? Two racing games with simplified and totally wrong physics and no sim options (no quali, no pit stops, no tyre wear, no fuel consumtion, limited damage). Two games buggy as hell. I applied so many mods to shift1 trying to get it playble that its probably world record.
    SMS is good at graphics, creating hype around their games & making money. We saw it with shift1, then shift 2 and here we go again with c.a.r.s. I wont make the same mistake 3rd time.

  • N G

    I have to say im really loving the actual track surface itself and the darker rubbering-in racing line which looks much more ‘natural’ than anything ive seen in rF1.

  • F1Racer

    It is, but it shouldn’t be.  That was my point.  Comparisons are just other peoples opinions and as we know, with opinions, not everyone agrees with everyone else.

  • F1Racer

    Then you’ll miss out because the CARS couldnt be more different.  No EA looking down from above and the whole community can get involved (including you if even had the motivation).

  • F1Racer

    Why you would want loads of other guys to know that is bewildering.

  • Silly(c)One

    Saying there are no good mods for rFactor is a lack of vision, pal…

    Keep hating, it’s only YOUR loss.

  • F1Racer

    GPL is old now and not forgetting that the authors (finally) admitted that the physics were not right in that the cars were too slidey and loose.
    Quite unfair to say tnat no-one can better GPL.

  • ‘‘Daniel!!

    The difference in developed time between rFactor and CARS, its simply to understand, CARS its simply some new models, and changed physics on shift 2 motor, its eyecandyvery very eyecandy. I think too, for now, CARS is far far far far away from rfactor physics sim, maybe it handles ok, but, in terms of ingeneering rfactor2 is gonna be one step further, i mean no t only handle, rfactor can simulate materials, gravity, suspensions, engines, tires, weather, temperatures, road surface, etc.. and the most important it can mix every variable, and affect components nearly as they do in real life, their logaritms will be better than others i think,  they have a lot of data from profesional racing. But who knows if CARS will go that far, by now CARS has only good looking graphics, and not too bad handle, but no real simulation of that much variables rFactor2 will have.

  • F1Racer

    Are a lot of people ‘hating’ on rF2 or are they just having a very typical bitch session ?

  • Kosmo

    Maybe you are right. I dont mind being it good game. the more good racing games the better for us. We will find out when c.a.r.s. is finished.

  • frigopie

    πŸ˜›  logaritms? did you mean algorithms??

    PD: agree

  • Eric Potvin

    You are confusing what is physical(or technical) vs the emotional aspects.

    Sure all sims now are technogically superior to GPL, but you need to understand what moves people emotionnaly. 

    I understand what is meant when someone says you can’t capture what GPL was. I lost my sim virginity with IndyCar Racing 2, man that moment when I had issues taking a corner in the sim and watching the real race on tv that weekend. Seeing how the real guys were taking the corner, Jumping in ICR2 and doing the same thing, slowing down like on TV, taking the corner, finally like on TV. Man the elation of it all.

    All sims are technologically superior today, but none has taken me to that spot since ICR2. (Although iRacing is close, for the quality online racing)

  • Nicolas Grignon

    Hating? I know today people (fanboys) love extreme and big words but “hate” is really not a good word here… If I don’t like parts of rFactor 2 (Graphic mostly) I’m VERY FAR from “HATING” this game…. There is a lot of things that I’m sure rfactor 2 will do better than other simulator,  unfortunately graphic don’t seems to be their Forte… but I’m sure I will enjoy the other parts of it nonetheless.  And about “hating”, some could watch themselves in a mirror calling CARS a Shift+ without to really want to know more about WHY SMS did CARS after Shift.

  • Nicolas Grignon

    It feels strange indeed, first part of the movie,  physics in motion are really one of the best I’ve seen ever in a game but at the end of the movie some cars seems glued to the road (even during a big bump) with strange trajectories…

  • Nicolas Grignon

    @MArkus: maybe but their business model is elitist… There is NO WAY I’ll pay a monthly/yearly subscription to play a game, as good as it could be… and frankly their graphic engine is not what would call photo-realistic either.

  • moreyummystuff

    I don’t know. Let me load rFactor2 and compare. Oh wait.

  • Nicolas Grignon

    Good one, moreyumyumstuff, LOL πŸ˜€

  • Nicolas Grignon

    nor their sounds…

  • ‘‘Daniel!!

    jejeje i mean algorithms,  I’m from spain, sorry for my english… 

  • Jorge Araujo

    I think I’ve got a hardon.

  • Art-J

    GPL is still going to be on my PC for one basic reason: there are no ’67 group 6 prototypes , 65, 66 and 69 F1 cars available for any of the “new” platforms. If (or “when”, I hope) somebody recreates them in rF2 or C.A.R.S., I’ll move on happily. I’m not holding my breath though, because apart form SlimJim and Team Players, nobody ever seemed to be interested in doing it for rF1. I can only hope that all ’60s stuff available in these two upcoming sims will reconstruct some of this interest in the future.

  • gpfan

    I have the same opinion……. but hey we are seing that people prefer to be ful by eyecandy game rether than good physics, even so i´m positive this video whant to give the golden F1 60 atmosphere, the game it self will be much better.  RESPECT GJON!!!!!

  • Salva Sirignano

    I wouldn’t really say GPL has had it’s day.
    I can’t think of a better overall sim for an offline player such as myself.
    Nothing offers an entire package, and it frustrates me!
    Rfactor, GTR Evo and every other Gmotor 2 game, LFS etc all have poor AI, Netkar pro doesn’t bother with it, neither does IRacing. All of these have acceptably engaging physics.
    Then at the other end of the scale GP4 has fantastic AI yet is like driving a train in the dry.
    There is nothing on the market that currently offers both decent physics and realistic AI, and until there is then GPL will always stay on my hard drive.

  • ‘‘Daniel!!

    I think too, its more dificult to archieve for CARS, rFactor2 simulation, compatibility, and modding level, than rFactor2 to archieve CARS  graphics. We will see an rfactor2 eyecandy for sure

  • DucFreak

    Yes, there’s another recent title that will be more sucessfull than this among the eye-candy/post-processing junkies.

    What actually surprised me in this video (much more than “that other title” did so far – or any other recent title for that matter) was not so much the visible technical aspects of the game-engine but the small details and overall sensation of “extreme care” in the content shown (very rare for this genre in the current day and age).
    The little things that, I suspect, many haven’t noticed. Could be because lots of people in here are not into this era of racing, or simply because they don’t value such things.

    If you look with critical eyes, the period “correctness” is really impressive. More so if we consider that this is a commercial title.

    It’s only a video so far and its restricted to that, but the mid-60’s Monaco and its layout, the endless 3d objects spreaded all around, the texturing, the cars, the drivers, the way these vehicles react to bumps, cornering, braking and acceleration, etc, etc… It’s all looking very, very sweet.
    TBH, I can’t seem to find anything to criticize so far. …but then I haven’t heard the cars yet! (HEH)

    I seem to observe something that I usually only expect from the best modding. You know, the kind of stupid delicious detail the big game companies usually skip or simply are not able to get right, for lack of “love” and uninsterested dedication (maybe modders are more sensitive to this than the regular user?).
    This is what many of us are actually looking for in a racing game, correct detail in its correct space/place, and not buying into the “gratuit eye-candy awesomeness just for the sake of coolness”.

    I suspect it must have required some specialist hand and research to get the whole thing looking (and working?) like “as it should be”, as it seems this is.
    …and for this I got two questions to the Rfactor crew (Tim Wheatley?):

    1) – Is this video showing content that will be included/delivered with RFactor-2?
    2) – If so, how did you manage regarding the licenses for usage/recreation of such old stuff?

  • F1Racer

    Great.  Thanks for that.  *DONT_KNOW*

    I’m starting to see a very queer side to some people recently.

  • GeraArg
  • Eric

    I’m actually worried about them adding HDR. I wish game makers would stop doing it ASAP. Just like in photography game makers over cook the HDR and pump in so much contrast it looks like hyper reality instead of reality. So no HDR for me, thanks.

  • pastor ted haggard

    ……go and look up the dictonary definition of the word ‘comparison’. You can make distinct factual comparisons between anything, objective comparisons, not subjective opinions. 
    do you honestly think ISI are going to produce a game thats graphically up there with say for example, Battlefield 3? of course not. 

    they are still using the gmotor engine!

  • pastor ted haggard

    well you obviously can’t read – because thats not what I said. where did i say iv’e seen a video of a 1966 monaco in a 2011 simulation? i was talking about stock footage from real life. 

  • pastor ted haggard

    you guys obviously miss the entire point of my post. forget it. 

  • Jux

    The more you love, the harder you beat.

  • gpfan

    lol

  • Monk

    Yeah its quite disturbing to read those things because as good a sim can get it doesn’t give me a hard on and.. if it would I wouldn’t want to share this with others.

  • Monk

    The godfather is on ISI side.

    Nice catch GeraARG !

  • SergeantBoner

    rFactor 2 is definitely an offer you can’t refuse! πŸ˜‰

  • SergeantBoner

    Yeah we’ve seen that while one half of the community gets hardon’s here and there over cumming titles the other half seems to be vastly homophobic…

    yes he’s looking at you eff-oonneee rayseur!

  • EmptyBox

    Neither is CARS.
    Neither is rFactor.
    Neither is Netkar Pro.
    Neither is Netkar.
    Neither is Gran Turismo.
    Neither is Forza.
    Neither is GPL.
    Neither is NR03.
    Neither is GP4.
    Neither is RBR.

    Therefore, the point you are attempting to make is not a point, but an obvious statement about all current products. Therefore, you must bash those products as well.

    Or be a hypocrit. Not my call.

  • F1Racer

    @Private Bonehead: Taking into consideration your nickname and your avatar it’s no surprise you have chimed in here as its clearly a subject that is right up your alley (pun intended).  You seem to have an affinity for the male genetalia so am I to assume you are jumping to the defense of those of a same-sex persuasion ?   That would be surprising because no-one has mentioned homosexuality here.  But hey if you gotta defend your kind, you gotta defend it.

    Well if it’s homophobic to be uncomfortable about other guys wanting to share the state of erectness of their dicks on a sim-racing site then I guess I’m homophobic (and I’d be proud of it).   Maybe that’s enjoyable reading to you but… meh… I can do without it really.
     
    I’m not half of the community either so I dunno where you are getting your half and half figures from as you clearly haven’t researched it too well.  1 guy jizzed, 1 got hard and one wasn’t really interested to know that about the first 2.  So that’s the whole community is it ?
    Just making it up as you go along.

  • Silly(c)One

    What Mark seems to ignore, is the fact that rFactor “the game” is only an aspect of the whole @ ISI. Ever heard of rFactor Pro ? And the full 6DOF motion simulators they fuel with it ?
    They also collaborate with many pro racing teams for coaching, just like iRacing does.

    Please don’t talk about things you don’t have a clue about as if you had the truth.

  • F1Racer

    More filth, LOL πŸ™‚

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