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rFactor 2 – First Gen6 Stock Car Previews

Image Space Incorporated has revealed a new work in progress car for rFactor 2.

Image Space Incorporated has revealed a new work in progress car for rFactor 2.

As you can see below, the guys at ISI are working on a modern stock car for their simulation. The fictional Howson-branded car is modelled after NASCAR’s current breed of Gen6 stock cars as used in the NASCAR Sprint Cup.

Below are three renders of the car model for you to check out!

  • Francesco Kasta

    I think the NASCAR stock cars reached their apex of “coolness” in the very early 90s (Days of Thunder, anyone?) and then started to become more and more boring-looking over the years… still, it’s nice to have one in rF2!

    • Jann Dircks

      To be fair, the Gen6 cars are an improvement to the ugly and boring COT.

      • Big Ron

        While the old-school NASCAR until early 90 are also my favorites, I agree that the Gen6 are better than the shoe boxes called COT.

    • Anonymous

      Well it’s an extremely Spec Standards Series. Yes I like old school but also like todays cars as well. At least better than I like the series. @Smithaz I understand the difficulty for Europeans to understand the interest in this type of racing in these types of cars. Nascar tries to put extreme bias on Driver ability over cars with different levels of performance. Nascar is a Drivers Series and LeMans Series is an Engineers series.

      • Smithaz

        To be honest in the UK there is no real TV coverage of NASCAR so I have never actually seen it. I cant say I disagree with putting emphasis in driver skill though, as opposed to the team with the most money wins.

  • Smithaz

    Being british I couldn’t care less for these cars, but if it brings more attention to rF2 then that can’t be a bad thing.

  • Anthony Birch

    looks fantastic, i dont care when stock car reached their ‘apex of coolness’ , its another car for RF2 and a step closer to more and more genre’s of motorsport, and that you cant have too much of

  • Chris Wright

    Awesome unforeseen development.

  • Matt Orr

    Somehow, despite being announced nearly a year ago, we haven’t seen a single Indycar – but yet a stock car, GT500 GT-R and a Cobra… And a Panoz that kind of “surprise!” of a release. Patiently waiting.

    • Tim Wheatley

      Most of the time you can only work on things you can work on. IndyCar took a while to get us anything to work from, which means the guys had to find other things to do.

      • Matt Orr

        Well then I’ll throw a random curve ball at you – why not a dirt oval car? There is not just a hole there, but a HUGE hole that if you tried to fill, would have many, many, many a person throwing money at you when combined with real road and what could be possible. I’m sure that comes down to the dirt not being ready yet (I believe that was something ISI was planning, albeit more rally style?) but even as a tarmac surface where more rubber means less grip, people would go crazy.

        Dirt oval mods are hugely popular in rF1, and Real road could really open that up wide open and make you stand out – while a generic NASCAR car… I don’t think it would have the same impact.

      • Tim Wheatley

        Everyone has a list beginning with “why not” or “why didn’t you”. We’re well aware of the dirt mods in rF1, and rF2 already supports what those mods did. If we did it ourselves, we’d need to go further than an rF1 mod, and we’re not there yet with the/a changeable dirt racing surface.

      • Anthony Birch

        “the guys had to find other things to do”, so they made start on drag racing yeah…….lol

      • Tim Wheatley

        Passed on a list of drag racing requirements a few times now. People were kind enough to help me with that (as I don’t follow the sport). Haven’t seen anything come out of it yet. 🙁

      • Anthony Birch

        many many thanks for doing that, just gotta wait i guess

      • Nick1

        If ISI could pull of a dirt oval, that would a major business win.

    • a1mone

      i could not agree with you more. What is laughable here is Indycar execs basically screamed out on speed channel (2 years ago) they are dying to have more exposure in the gaming industry and at time of that interview they said only one company had approached them. They also said that they were willing to non exclusive arrangements.

  • Anonymous

    Awesome! I for one am thrilled to see this. While there are parts of iRacing that I enjoy, and certain cars as well, I miss the feel that ISI brings to oval racing. IMO, ARCA Sim Racing (The Sim Factory) was the best feeling and driving stock car game to date. Unfortunately I don’t expect a release from them on the rF2 platform but realizing there is consciousness of oval racing by anyone developing a new sim is promising to me. Don’t get me wrong, I know PCARS has ovals and I’ve read that there are modders interested in doing stock car stuff for AC, but I think the ISI crew will do it much more justice than developers with a much heavier emphasis on road racing. I have all three sims, but this gives me reason to be excited about the development of rF2 again which is something I haven’t been at all.

    • Tim Wheatley

      Thanks for the opinion. We were also sort of waiting to see what was happening with TSF as well. It wasn’t long ago I was told we probably wouldn’t do a stock car, not to talk to NASCAR manufacturers, etc.

      • Zippydo

        Tim, pm sent in FB … 🙂

      • Vhr Stockcar

        Why were you waiting on what TSF are going to do…who cares about them. What about the many hours that Mike over at SCE and myself with VHR…we have advanced stockcar physics further than what TSF ever did, your comment is an insult.
        I asked you many times over at the isi forum about putting in a Nascar rules package…which would be easy.Fact that you wait to see what a mod group like TSF does makes no sense…they dropped the ball years ago and have shown nothing since…you should be reaching out to groups like SCE and myself (VHR). nascar mods take up half of the servers for rfactor1, to me that fan base should be your concern if you’re waiting to bring Nascar to rfactor2…very dissapointing.

      • Tim Wheatley

        Thank you for your response, but it shows an unfortunate lack of understanding. Something you could have simply asked about, to better inform yourself, rather than taking an extreme reaction and making assumptions based off a very simplistic comment that did not relate to everything you have said. Unfortunately, I’ll assume this goes a long way towards showing how it would be working with you, Is that what you intended?

      • a1mone

        I don’t think you of all people should call out others on: ”lack of understanding”.

      • Tim Wheatley

        Based on his reply, he did not understand the context of information he was replying to.

        The fact I have been misunderstood, and misunderstood others, does not relate in any way. The same way that your post doesn’t. In fact, the same way that he could just ask, is the same thing many people fail to do. Assumption is the number 1 cause of misunderstanding, and in almost every case I have seen, it’s a very simple assumption gone wrong.

      • Anonymous

        The guy is just a Jerk Tim who thinks he knows something. NT 2004 was a great title bottom line. Maybe he did not spend enough time with it to find that out.

      • F1Racer

        Are you just here to flame other people ?

      • a1mone

        Nope … but I can tell a few real stories to back my comment up if you would like. 1st hand stories about the topic of Lack of understanding combined with ineptness. Even can post the emails from years ago to support my facts.

        So if you call facts same thing as flaming then that is your issue not mine. Good day.

      • F1Racer

        I’m really not interested in your stories or any emails. Completely irrelevant here.
        I wasn’t calling out on any ‘facts’ but rather your comment which is flaming imo. So don’t try twisting my words.
        My only issue is how you conduct yourself on here.

      • Sam Donald

        Your racing connections and experience would be helpful, are you near Charlotte?? SCE originated with TSF would you not expect them to be the best at offering the closest in realism again? Neither of you have any real life experience or current connections which could help ISI bring these over with perfection. They could not make the sim work correctly in RF and branched into their own adjusted development platform to do things right, SCE was picked up by modders is all. Their connections in Nascar and race teams is believed to be much more than anyone has ever had with exception of iRacing. Your communication skills appear to be lacking and most likely the reason working with you could be a major stumbling block. TSF made the ISI engine dance in realism better than even ISI did in Thunder. Their involvement with real-time racing teams, engineers and current drivers would give them the best opportunity to have realism in any future release from ISI.

      • a1mone

        Nascar thunder….. is equivalent to a arcade game found in resort areas. Dance in realism LOL what a farce. If anyone needs skill in tact i’t would be you.

    • Zippydo

      JesseFahrenkrog, thanks for the kind words, from inception we made it our utmost initiative to incorporate the most realistic physics to date into a race simulation. We felt that was the most lacking detail of all previous developments. We also believed this could only be achieved ultimately through the ISI engine and proved it through use by as many as 50+ drivers in many of the top series of this form of racing, many who developed, trained using our custom designed simulators and are now racing full time in those series. RF2 engine enhancements will send this realism over the top …. -zip

    • Anonymous

      Well I started with NT 2003 and fell in love with NT 2004 and the title that IMO most resembled the physics of that is ARCA Sim which I very much like. I also liked Nascar Sim Series mod for rF1 even if I felt the physics were slightly scaled back from the others I have mentioned. I think ISI has a great chance to do these cars right if they follow the right philosophy as to whats to be expected with the overall handling of these cars. I could only hope it’s as good as iRacing’s Oval Stockcar series and ARCA Sim. I felt the Stockcars were just okay in rF1

      • Anonymous

        Anyway the way I see it it’s a very fine line between okay and great where something can be really good but with a couple of small changes can be really great and the ability to hit that nail on the head is fairly difficult as complex as everything is getting in our genre.

      • Anonymous

        Yeah, I agree. The developers need to make money which means they need to appeal to the masses, and let’s face it, a dedicated oval racing sim simply won’t generate the sales needed to justify the development. So, what you get is several very good sims that try to incorporate it into their business model/product. No matter though really. I like iRacing, and ARCA, and Assetto Corsa, and pCARS, and….you get it. It ‘s still good to see modern NASCAR style cars popping up in a game in development and leaves me hope for the future of the genre.

      • Anonymous

        Actually I think a dedicated Oval Racing sim can generate enough sales to justify development cost even if it’s a fanfare Nascar title. However there are car types that have never been done for Oval Racing like the half scale mini cup stockcar the 3/4 scale Allison legacy Stockcar the stockcars of the 1950’s on through the 1960’s lacks a bit and the grassroots oval series have really never officially been done there is a lot of content and enough of a strong interest here in the US if done right will draw sales. I cannot say Sim Factory has done it wrong because their software is really good they have just not expanded their man hour resources to do it completely right and have farted around at a turtles pace to create patch X and many have lost interest in supporting them.

      • Anonymous

        Yeah, you’re right about TSF, though there were things kinda out of their control that hampered what they were doing. As we speak I’m waiting for an account reset so I can run the sim again. It’s been a while.

        I’d like to think there’s enough interest here stateside to support a oval type sim but what I meant was that I don’t think anyone will develop a from scratch sim the way Papy did. I can see another offshoot of one of the new gen sims ala ARCA, but I just don’t see there being enough interest in a hardcore type oval racer sim for anyone to develop it from scratch. I hope I’m wrong, but even if we just get something like ARCA with updated graphics and some of the newer features (rF2’s tire model for instance) that would make me happy.

        Like I said, I like iRacing but to me most of the upper level cars have always felt “on top of the track” rather than “in the track” as they say. Still, at the moment in terms of ease of use, and modern presentation, it does the trick for now I guess. Hopefully I get ARCA going again soon though…I’ve got the itch for some league racing!

      • Zippydo

        Email me at [email protected] and I’ll help you. Just need your email address

      • Anonymous

        I got it figured out Bill, thanks. Rob replied pretty quickly to the support email I sent and I’m going to try to make a truck race at NORTEX tomorrow morning! It looks like there’s still some pretty decent fields running over at GTRL and other places too so I’m excited to get racing again! Trucks feel fantastic BTW!

  • a1mone

    meh… every rf nascar or stock car attempt has been sub par at best.

    • Anthony Birch

      a computer game can only go so far. and i doubt very much that there is very many people out there with stock car/nascar experience that can critique a game and say “they dont handle like that” or “they need more of this” etc etc.

      • a1mone

        More real life drivers of all levels race sims right now then any time so far, so I would not just assume things about user comments.

        Almost every local driver I know owns or has access to a simulator, rf1, n2003, or rents iracing, and if they don’t kinda dumb on them. Rf does a great job with dirt cars. Oval stock cars and all the oval mods including Arca which basically is a glorified mod for rf1 does not hold a candle to any of the papyrus or iracing stock car mods or titles.
        RFactor ..awesome for RT and dirt, really bad for a nascar or local oval experience. That includes all the ISI based titles.

        Personally I would rather see them improve the ui. Or Indycar would be suited much better for the netcode.

      • Anonymous

        Sorry I disagree with you. While I think NR2K3 is a great title and iRacing Oval racing as well. ISI’s pc version of Nascar Thunder is also great physics wise. While I don’t know if you have played NT 2004 IMO the ARCA Sim physics IMO are a little more refined version of NT 04’s physics. While I can respect the fact you have your own tastes quotes like “does not hold a candle to”…. seem a bit far fetched to me. Even rF1’s Stockcars were not horrible but ya could have been a tad better.

      • a1mone

        no offense but you apparently have never driven a real stock car. one is a kids arcade game the other a full blown simulation. Millions played the papyrus titles, millions used the EA stock car titles as drink coasters after 2 days of play time. Infact I would say even nascar heat, and nascar the line is and was a better arcade nascar game then anything you just mentioned. Next thing you are going to tell me the pcars stock cars are accurate.

        If the titles you are saying were even remotely decent then people like Dale Earnhardt jr, Denny Hamlin, and tj majors (all who played n2003 on a every day basis rather then play crappy rf mods or arca) would have been playing them instead of n2003. Which pretty much says it all

      • Rob Cobb

        Dale Jr ARCA Sim Racing in 2008: “pretty accurate”, “can bump good, run side-by-side”, “don’t get spun out if you barely touch like other sims”,

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=bSRc9QzPk-A#t=316

      • a1mone

        Ya 2008 LOL. … way after the papy arenas went down, and when Iracing opened (August 26, 2008) . I was there and know the facts better then most. O by the way, in 2008 dale jr was racing in IR regularly… I used to race against him and tj majors pretty often. LOL I love this video, this is good because it is easy. Yet entire time he is using Iracing.

        Want me to link what he said about n2003 on espn during a live nascar race? we can go on like that all day. I hope they put out better products, just like I hope nascar 2014 makes a better product next year.
        Like it or not…
        Where is Dale Jr racing now? LOL. answer to that pretty much says it all. Not to mention, Parker Klingerman, Denny Hamlin, Justin Wilson, Sage Karam, all the Indy guys that race online all race one sim pretty much for ovals (the list goes on and on). I’t sure is not arca or rf I guarantee that.

      • Anonymous

        Your an idiot!

      • a1mone

        Fanboy of what? I love rfactor and still play i’t often. But not for ovals… and I guarantee I have turned more laps in various horrible rf1 and arca groups enduring a even worse net code, using tracks that were half rate at best.

        My opinion is mine whether you want to accept that or not, you may understand that concept as you mature. I am not calling you names for your love for what you like.

        I also played arca and was a tester in the beginning with people like nick morse. Funny how people have to resort to name calling when they can’t hold up a discussion. So I insulted a game you really like so I am now labeled a ”fanboy”. Really Ignorant.

        Do I hope they come up with something that is as quality as I mentioned above? I would love that and use it and pay the money for it as I always do.

        – signed not worthy

  • Chris D

    This has so much potential I cant wait

  • a1mone

    I thought I was not not worth another reply?

    What happened, so you can’t hold a discussion like an adult and also can’t keep your word. What’s next little man gonna huff and puff and hold his breath in anger….. oooo.

    Poor little guy has to have the mod check his P’s and Q’s…. great way to have the readers actually find you a credible poster.

    Give me a break. I’m fine with your opinions… even if there inconsistent with actual facts.

    • Anonymous

      Okay little mammas boy bet you wouldn’t talk like that to my face and I wish you were here in front of me at this second because I would thrash you like the little bitche that you are. I suggest you STFU before I SYUSTMFH!

      • F1Racer

        This is finished.

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