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		<title>By: xilix</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/wtcc-09-coming/comment-page-1/#comment-17395</link>
		<dc:creator>xilix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 03:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LensFlare, the Muscle cars aren&#039;t even developed correctly! Have you inspected the code? It&#039;s horrible! For example, the Audi R8 and the Dodge Viper have the SAME EXACT SUSPENSION. As in, it&#039;s the same file, copy&amp;pasted! Shared between two cars that couldn&#039;t possibly be more different than eachother in the real world. And that&#039;s just the tip of the iceberg dude. Go download WTCCED and see for yourself. 

From the ground up means a new engine. They aren&#039;t even using the newest updated gmotor! I&#039;m sick of buying their mods. I want to buy a new game for once. I&#039;d also like it if they&#039;d stop being lazy about their physics code development as well. I mean jesus I don&#039;t even copy and paste my code like that! They need to stop letting the cars share code. I&#039;ll NEVER look at Simbin the same way again after seeing the outright copy&amp;paste development I see in GTR Evolution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LensFlare, the Muscle cars aren&#8217;t even developed correctly! Have you inspected the code? It&#8217;s horrible! For example, the Audi R8 and the Dodge Viper have the SAME EXACT SUSPENSION. As in, it&#8217;s the same file, copy&amp;pasted! Shared between two cars that couldn&#8217;t possibly be more different than eachother in the real world. And that&#8217;s just the tip of the iceberg dude. Go download WTCCED and see for yourself. </p>
<p>From the ground up means a new engine. They aren&#8217;t even using the newest updated gmotor! I&#8217;m sick of buying their mods. I want to buy a new game for once. I&#8217;d also like it if they&#8217;d stop being lazy about their physics code development as well. I mean jesus I don&#8217;t even copy and paste my code like that! They need to stop letting the cars share code. I&#8217;ll NEVER look at Simbin the same way again after seeing the outright copy&amp;paste development I see in GTR Evolution.</p>
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		<title>By: maxs</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/wtcc-09-coming/comment-page-1/#comment-17348</link>
		<dc:creator>maxs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 23:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thx for the info ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thx for the info ;)</p>
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		<title>By: LensFlare</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/wtcc-09-coming/comment-page-1/#comment-17336</link>
		<dc:creator>LensFlare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 19:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>haha yes indeed.

Race&#039;07 and its addons have the same engine: GMotor. The difference is that apparently, SimBin has put some development into the engine to suit their own wills and make the game look prettier than its predecessors. 

That&#039;s unfortunately why you can see so much stealing from those games and content converted to rFactor or GTR2. They all use the same engine. 

With the first Lizard PC game, I guess it will be pretty much harder to steal anything from it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha yes indeed.</p>
<p>Race&#8217;07 and its addons have the same engine: GMotor. The difference is that apparently, SimBin has put some development into the engine to suit their own wills and make the game look prettier than its predecessors. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s unfortunately why you can see so much stealing from those games and content converted to rFactor or GTR2. They all use the same engine. </p>
<p>With the first Lizard PC game, I guess it will be pretty much harder to steal anything from it.</p>
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		<title>By: maxs</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/wtcc-09-coming/comment-page-1/#comment-17324</link>
		<dc:creator>maxs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 15:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok i will not argue because i simply do not have enough knowledge i just thought that what i thought because when i race my simbin games i see LIZZARD bilbords all around the tracks 

i dont think Race07 GTREvo looks the same as RF and GTR2 its hard to tell what are the differences 

of course Racepro looks different because its console game 

anyway thank you for the info i didnt know that i hope that what you said is true :] i was living in wondreland :?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok i will not argue because i simply do not have enough knowledge i just thought that what i thought because when i race my simbin games i see LIZZARD bilbords all around the tracks </p>
<p>i dont think Race07 GTREvo looks the same as RF and GTR2 its hard to tell what are the differences </p>
<p>of course Racepro looks different because its console game </p>
<p>anyway thank you for the info i didnt know that i hope that what you said is true :] i was living in wondreland :?</p>
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		<title>By: Montoya</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/wtcc-09-coming/comment-page-1/#comment-17322</link>
		<dc:creator>Montoya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 15:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You´re definately wrong, sorry. Why do you think conversions of rFactor or GTR2 mods to GTR Evolution are easily possible? Because it&#039;s the same engine.

RACE Pro is the first Simbin title to use the Lizard engine, no PC title has yet used it. You can easily tell as RACE Pro look very different in terms of lightning and effects while titles like rFactor or GTR Evolution look pretty much alike in terms of graphics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You´re definately wrong, sorry. Why do you think conversions of rFactor or GTR2 mods to GTR Evolution are easily possible? Because it&#8217;s the same engine.</p>
<p>RACE Pro is the first Simbin title to use the Lizard engine, no PC title has yet used it. You can easily tell as RACE Pro look very different in terms of lightning and effects while titles like rFactor or GTR Evolution look pretty much alike in terms of graphics.</p>
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		<title>By: maxs</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/wtcc-09-coming/comment-page-1/#comment-17321</link>
		<dc:creator>maxs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 15:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RF , GTR2 , GTL , RACE WTCC(06)    ====    ISI GMOTOR


RACE07 , GTR Evo , STCC   ====   LIZARD ENGINE 


http://www.simbin.se/main/technology.htm#


LIZARD is simply based on gmotor its just modified and uses similar technology as gmotor i maybe wrong but this is how i undestand this otherwise why i see LIZZARD bilboards in my GTRE and Race07 ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RF , GTR2 , GTL , RACE WTCC(06)    ====    ISI GMOTOR</p>
<p>RACE07 , GTR Evo , STCC   ====   LIZARD ENGINE </p>
<p><a href="http://www.simbin.se/main/technology.htm#" rel="nofollow">http://www.simbin.se/main/technology.htm#</a></p>
<p>LIZARD is simply based on gmotor its just modified and uses similar technology as gmotor i maybe wrong but this is how i undestand this otherwise why i see LIZZARD bilboards in my GTRE and Race07 ?</p>
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		<title>By: scca1981</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/wtcc-09-coming/comment-page-1/#comment-17293</link>
		<dc:creator>scca1981</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 21:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>maxs you need think and do research before you post.

rFactor, GTR, GTR2, GTL, Race06, Race07, STCC and GTR Evolution all use the ISI Gmotor.

But what would I know?  I&#039;ve only been modding the games for 3 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maxs you need think and do research before you post.</p>
<p>rFactor, GTR, GTR2, GTL, Race06, Race07, STCC and GTR Evolution all use the ISI Gmotor.</p>
<p>But what would I know?  I&#8217;ve only been modding the games for 3 years.</p>
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		<title>By: LensFlare</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/wtcc-09-coming/comment-page-1/#comment-17286</link>
		<dc:creator>LensFlare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 14:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lol ! 

Maxs, what have you been smoking? Race Pro for XBOX is on Lizard. 

This is still GMotor.

RichardTrange: maybe the interview was made earlier...

I mean, we have WTCC 2006, 2007... where would 2008 have gone?

And moreover, the 2009 season is only starting with Curitiba.  Who knows, maybe some cars will join soon the championship ! So it would be hard to start to make a game on a 2009 season when it hasn&#039;t yet started. I mean, it&#039;s not like Formula 1 where things are stable. In WTCC, you often have cars that join during the season, or give up for money reasons...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol ! </p>
<p>Maxs, what have you been smoking? Race Pro for XBOX is on Lizard. </p>
<p>This is still GMotor.</p>
<p>RichardTrange: maybe the interview was made earlier&#8230;</p>
<p>I mean, we have WTCC 2006, 2007&#8230; where would 2008 have gone?</p>
<p>And moreover, the 2009 season is only starting with Curitiba.  Who knows, maybe some cars will join soon the championship ! So it would be hard to start to make a game on a 2009 season when it hasn&#8217;t yet started. I mean, it&#8217;s not like Formula 1 where things are stable. In WTCC, you often have cars that join during the season, or give up for money reasons&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: RichardTrange</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/wtcc-09-coming/comment-page-1/#comment-17285</link>
		<dc:creator>RichardTrange</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 13:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@LensFlare

&quot;- Vi har ett nytt WTCC-spel på gång, för årets säsong.&quot;
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&quot; We got a new WTCC-Game in the pipeline, containing this years season&quot;

And the article is written 27/2-09 i think it was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@LensFlare</p>
<p>&#8220;- Vi har ett nytt WTCC-spel på gång, för årets säsong.&#8221;<br />
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&#8221; We got a new WTCC-Game in the pipeline, containing this years season&#8221;</p>
<p>And the article is written 27/2-09 i think it was.</p>
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		<title>By: maxs</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/wtcc-09-coming/comment-page-1/#comment-17284</link>
		<dc:creator>maxs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 13:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:ooo:</description>
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		<title>By: maxs</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/wtcc-09-coming/comment-page-1/#comment-17283</link>
		<dc:creator>maxs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 13:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THIS IS NOT ISI ENGINE GMotor 

RACE07/GTREVO/STCC uses LIZARD ENGINE

THIS IS LIZARD ENGINE .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THIS IS NOT ISI ENGINE GMotor </p>
<p>RACE07/GTREVO/STCC uses LIZARD ENGINE</p>
<p>THIS IS LIZARD ENGINE .</p>
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		<title>By: Floptickle</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/wtcc-09-coming/comment-page-1/#comment-17281</link>
		<dc:creator>Floptickle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 12:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys, why are you getting so upset with this? Hell, I saw it coming, so relax enjoy the game, and if you won&#039;t buy it? I&#039;m pretty sure you&#039;ll get it at some point :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys, why are you getting so upset with this? Hell, I saw it coming, so relax enjoy the game, and if you won&#8217;t buy it? I&#8217;m pretty sure you&#8217;ll get it at some point :P</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 11:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m starting to doubt that a GTR3-game, from the current Simbin, would be anything more than an updated GTR Evolution with cars and tracks from FIA GT... :sad2: 

But I hope I&#039;m wrong and that we will get a new FIA GT-game based on their Lizard-engine with lots of new features someday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m starting to doubt that a GTR3-game, from the current Simbin, would be anything more than an updated GTR Evolution with cars and tracks from FIA GT&#8230; <img src='http://www.virtualr.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':sad2:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>But I hope I&#8217;m wrong and that we will get a new FIA GT-game based on their Lizard-engine with lots of new features someday.</p>
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		<title>By: Uff</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/wtcc-09-coming/comment-page-1/#comment-17235</link>
		<dc:creator>Uff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 10:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@scca1981: don&#039;t forget that mant of the people behind GTR2 and GTL are now in Slightly Mad Studios (ex Blimey!), not in actual SimBin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@scca1981: don&#8217;t forget that mant of the people behind GTR2 and GTL are now in Slightly Mad Studios (ex Blimey!), not in actual SimBin.</p>
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		<title>By: scca1981</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/wtcc-09-coming/comment-page-1/#comment-17234</link>
		<dc:creator>scca1981</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 09:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#  MontoyaMarch 7th, 2009 at 03:16
Well it could be another vairant of “RACE” as none of the simulations with WTCC content actually had WTCC in the name.


uhh...

Race - The WTCC Game
Race 07 - The WTCC Game</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#  MontoyaMarch 7th, 2009 at 03:16<br />
Well it could be another vairant of “RACE” as none of the simulations with WTCC content actually had WTCC in the name.</p>
<p>uhh&#8230;</p>
<p>Race &#8211; The WTCC Game<br />
Race 07 &#8211; The WTCC Game</p>
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		<title>By: scca1981</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/wtcc-09-coming/comment-page-1/#comment-17233</link>
		<dc:creator>scca1981</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 09:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t they still hold the FIA GT license?  Where is GTR3?  You make that you&#039;ll sell copies.  Its all you hear about all the time.  Everyone wants it.  A simbin quality FIA GT 2008/2009 game would definitely have my money.

How about a GTL2?  Hands down your best game IMHO.  A part 2 with maybe 70s/80s race cars would be awesome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t they still hold the FIA GT license?  Where is GTR3?  You make that you&#8217;ll sell copies.  Its all you hear about all the time.  Everyone wants it.  A simbin quality FIA GT 2008/2009 game would definitely have my money.</p>
<p>How about a GTL2?  Hands down your best game IMHO.  A part 2 with maybe 70s/80s race cars would be awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: scca1981</title>
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		<dc:creator>scca1981</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 09:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this a joke?  Another WTCC game on the same old isi gmotor? So I take it PC users won&#039;t get the lizard engine?  Sadly i&#039;m gonna have to agree with xilix,  i&#039;m done with Simbin until we get something fresh and new.

And that comment about the US only running tracks that go around around around is bullshit.  You want to make a game that will appeal to the USA try making it based on a series that runs in the USA... there are a lot to choose from that run road courses.  All of your games are based on European series so of course they are going to more appeal in that region.

Also explain to me this... RacePro is supposed to be your big console release.  How come most stores in my area either didn&#039;t have it in stock or only had 3-4 copies?  How do you even expect to sell games when they are barely available to anyone?

Finally,  if your states publisher wants some American &quot;muscle&quot; why don&#039;t you give them some real race cars?  I have a feeling American muscle means &quot;srt8 street car&quot;.  We have tons of awesome race cars from all years that would make a great game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this a joke?  Another WTCC game on the same old isi gmotor? So I take it PC users won&#8217;t get the lizard engine?  Sadly i&#8217;m gonna have to agree with xilix,  i&#8217;m done with Simbin until we get something fresh and new.</p>
<p>And that comment about the US only running tracks that go around around around is bullshit.  You want to make a game that will appeal to the USA try making it based on a series that runs in the USA&#8230; there are a lot to choose from that run road courses.  All of your games are based on European series so of course they are going to more appeal in that region.</p>
<p>Also explain to me this&#8230; RacePro is supposed to be your big console release.  How come most stores in my area either didn&#8217;t have it in stock or only had 3-4 copies?  How do you even expect to sell games when they are barely available to anyone?</p>
<p>Finally,  if your states publisher wants some American &#8220;muscle&#8221; why don&#8217;t you give them some real race cars?  I have a feeling American muscle means &#8220;srt8 street car&#8221;.  We have tons of awesome race cars from all years that would make a great game.</p>
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		<title>By: zudthespud</title>
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		<dc:creator>zudthespud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 09:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t call rf a competator to simbin titles, rfactor is just gmotor2 in its simplest form, simbins titles have much more of a game built around it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t call rf a competator to simbin titles, rfactor is just gmotor2 in its simplest form, simbins titles have much more of a game built around it.</p>
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		<title>By: Gopher04</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gopher04</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 08:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well lets hope this isnt Toad, as i sure wont bother with it..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well lets hope this isnt Toad, as i sure wont bother with it..</p>
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		<title>By: fpol</title>
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		<dc:creator>fpol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 03:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This quote made me LOL &quot;But the U.S. is difficult, it is difficult to sell racingspel there if they do not run on tracks just go around, around, around.&quot;

We&#039;ve got quite a bit of road racing here - we just chose to make everyone believe that &#039;all&#039; Americans &#039;only&#039; like watching tanks race for 4hrs every Sunday on ovals.

Hey - if they&#039;re going to have a few U.S. tracks, and they&#039;re the same ones as in &quot;that other sim ...with the *reallly* good ones&quot;, they&#039;d better make them accurate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This quote made me LOL &#8220;But the U.S. is difficult, it is difficult to sell racingspel there if they do not run on tracks just go around, around, around.&#8221;</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve got quite a bit of road racing here &#8211; we just chose to make everyone believe that &#8216;all&#8217; Americans &#8216;only&#8217; like watching tanks race for 4hrs every Sunday on ovals.</p>
<p>Hey &#8211; if they&#8217;re going to have a few U.S. tracks, and they&#8217;re the same ones as in &#8220;that other sim &#8230;with the *reallly* good ones&#8221;, they&#8217;d better make them accurate.</p>
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