Comments on: Supercar Challenge – Nürburgring Lap http://www.virtualr.net/supercar-challenge-nurburgring-lap/ 100% Sim Racing News Mon, 22 Mar 2010 02:17:16 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: eiwfihaaa http://www.virtualr.net/supercar-challenge-nurburgring-lap/comment-page-1/#comment-20289 eiwfihaaa Fri, 22 May 2009 21:31:26 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=3585#comment-20289 when i said 'looks' i meant looks in terms of the handling/physics. i didnt mean literally the looks. i should have made that more clear i guess. doesnt matter. the reason why console games come under more scrutiny is because they parade themselves as sims (forza 2, gt5) when they are. absolute rubbish compared to the pc sim variants (rfactor gtrevo etc.etc.). just look at rbr versus the colin mcrae rally franchise on the console. fair enough i guess they don't market it as a rally realistic driving experience, but still. so when a game does come out like nfs shift thats said to have 'realistic physics' and all the rest of it, we're bound to be sceptical of such claims. even if the developers behind it have proven pedigree (blimey) they still have to work to the constraints of the market and publisher, when it comes to console games. hence why we're all awaiting the demo of nfs shift to see what its really made of. when i said ‘looks’ i meant looks in terms of the handling/physics. i didnt mean literally the looks.

i should have made that more clear i guess. doesnt matter.

the reason why console games come under more scrutiny is because they parade themselves as sims (forza 2, gt5) when they are. absolute rubbish compared to the pc sim variants (rfactor gtrevo etc.etc.). just look at rbr versus the colin mcrae rally franchise on the console. fair enough i guess they don’t market it as a rally realistic driving experience, but still.

so when a game does come out like nfs shift thats said to have ‘realistic physics’ and all the rest of it, we’re bound to be sceptical of such claims. even if the developers behind it have proven pedigree (blimey) they still have to work to the constraints of the market and publisher, when it comes to console games. hence why we’re all awaiting the demo of nfs shift to see what its really made of.

]]> By: mbeast http://www.virtualr.net/supercar-challenge-nurburgring-lap/comment-page-1/#comment-20286 mbeast Fri, 22 May 2009 17:49:54 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=3585#comment-20286 I would hazard a guess that the sound delay in shifting is simply the youtube video being out of sync, otherwise it is very odd indeed. Certainly looks nice though, and it seems you have to brake, which automatically makes it a "sim" in most console gamers' eyes. I would hazard a guess that the sound delay in shifting is simply the youtube video being out of sync, otherwise it is very odd indeed. Certainly looks nice though, and it seems you have to brake, which automatically makes it a “sim” in most console gamers’ eyes.

]]> By: JAGUAR1977 http://www.virtualr.net/supercar-challenge-nurburgring-lap/comment-page-1/#comment-20285 JAGUAR1977 Fri, 22 May 2009 17:31:58 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=3585#comment-20285 <blockquote cite="comment-20266"> <strong><a href="#comment-20266" rel="nofollow">mike</a></strong>: maxs the comment section exists for for a reason its not there just for OMG THIS IS THE BEST GAME EVER etc….. -the sounds are really horrendous and the track is lacking accuracy but like its been said since its for console the track layout wont matter much. </blockquote> Do you think it's just a coincidence any story about a console sim is followed by dozens of comments scrutinizing every aspect, far more than any PC sim. Look at the early reaction to NFS Shift, despite knowing the pedigree of the team behind the game. I'll predict now the first GT5 footage, hopefully from E3, will see a record number of comments. :cool:

mike: maxs the comment section exists for for a reason its not there just for OMG THIS IS THE BEST GAME EVER etc…..
-the sounds are really horrendous and the track is lacking accuracy but like its been said since its for console the track layout wont matter much.

Do you think it’s just a coincidence any story about a console sim is followed by dozens of comments scrutinizing every aspect, far more than any PC sim. Look at the early reaction to NFS Shift, despite knowing the pedigree of the team behind the game.

I’ll predict now the first GT5 footage, hopefully from E3, will see a record number of comments. :cool:

]]> By: JAGUAR1977 http://www.virtualr.net/supercar-challenge-nurburgring-lap/comment-page-1/#comment-20283 JAGUAR1977 Fri, 22 May 2009 17:14:13 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=3585#comment-20283 'As far as track accuracy, i dont think this would matter. the focus will without a doubt be Arcade. I do not mean that in the negative way, because i do understand thats where the commercial market is on the PS3. Are arcade racers really going to care if the track is spot on or not ? do they know how the track is spot on ? so in the end of the day , we should value it for what it is. a Nice looking arcade racer.' It's 2009, not 1999, in the next 12 months you'll see GT5, Forza 3, NFS Shift, Supercar Challenge, Superstars V8, Codemasters F1 and Race Pro and it's sequels. As for track accuracy, sure it doesn't look quite as good as Spa (which looked great), then again how many PC tracks are truely accurate? If you want perfect tracks wait for GT5, nothing will come close. 'it looks and sounds. like a load of sh*t. so. another game made for teh n00b console gamers.' This is a Beta, the sounds are from the DBR9 and are accurate, I'm really not sure what your problem is with the graphics either, considering how outdated most PC sims look. ‘As far as track accuracy, i dont think this would matter. the focus will without a doubt be Arcade. I do not mean that in the negative way, because i do understand thats where the commercial market is on the PS3. Are arcade racers really going to care if the track is spot on or not ? do they know how the track is spot on ? so in the end of the day , we should value it for what it is. a Nice looking arcade racer.’

It’s 2009, not 1999, in the next 12 months you’ll see GT5, Forza 3, NFS Shift, Supercar Challenge, Superstars V8, Codemasters F1 and Race Pro and it’s sequels.

As for track accuracy, sure it doesn’t look quite as good as Spa (which looked great), then again how many PC tracks are truely accurate? If you want perfect tracks wait for GT5, nothing will come close.

‘it looks and sounds. like a load of sh*t.
so. another game made for teh n00b console gamers.’

This is a Beta, the sounds are from the DBR9 and are accurate, I’m really not sure what your problem is with the graphics either, considering how outdated most PC sims look.

]]> By: idlejimbo http://www.virtualr.net/supercar-challenge-nurburgring-lap/comment-page-1/#comment-20280 idlejimbo Fri, 22 May 2009 15:30:15 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=3585#comment-20280 At least the inaccuracies are deliberate, creatively driven and openly admitted, and not just due to poor production. You have to have respect for them on that! :happy: At least the inaccuracies are deliberate, creatively driven and openly admitted, and not just due to poor production.

You have to have respect for them on that! :happy:

]]> By: unklepepper http://www.virtualr.net/supercar-challenge-nurburgring-lap/comment-page-1/#comment-20279 unklepepper Fri, 22 May 2009 15:30:04 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=3585#comment-20279 <blockquote cite="comment-20277"> <strong><a href="#comment-20277" rel="nofollow">eiwfihaaa</a></strong>: it looks and sounds. like a load of sh*t. so. another game made for teh n00b console gamers. </blockquote> You managed to deduce all of that from a pootube vid :question:

eiwfihaaa:
it looks and sounds. like a load of sh*t.
so. another game made for teh n00b console gamers.

You managed to deduce all of that from a pootube vid :question:

]]> By: eiwfihaaa http://www.virtualr.net/supercar-challenge-nurburgring-lap/comment-page-1/#comment-20277 eiwfihaaa Fri, 22 May 2009 14:59:38 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=3585#comment-20277 it looks and sounds. like a load of sh*t. so. another game made for teh n00b console gamers. it looks and sounds. like a load of sh*t.

so. another game made for teh n00b console gamers.

]]> By: unklepepper http://www.virtualr.net/supercar-challenge-nurburgring-lap/comment-page-1/#comment-20276 unklepepper Fri, 22 May 2009 14:41:18 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=3585#comment-20276 I really dont see any wild inaccuracies with the corners, the first looks odd, possibly a little narrow. What they have done is bring the barriers on the left and the runoff very close to the track. This is I think deliberate because if you dont know the track like the back of your own hand (most PS3 gamers I expect) Its very easy to become unsighted about where the corner apex is because of all the tarmac on the left & ahead. The rest of the track seems pretty good, lots of trees & other scenery to make it look nice, nothing wrong with that. ISI made a couple of tracks that were pretty wrong, Barcelona & shanghi I think had some issues with elevations. As for this game tho, it looks promising with gentle throttle application and corrective steering needed as well as breaking for corners! I will have to recommend it to my console playing friends. I really dont see any wild inaccuracies with the corners, the first looks odd, possibly a little narrow. What they have done is bring the barriers on the left and the runoff very close to the track. This is I think deliberate because if you dont know the track like the back of your own hand (most PS3 gamers I expect) Its very easy to become unsighted about where the corner apex is because of all the tarmac on the left & ahead.

The rest of the track seems pretty good, lots of trees & other scenery to make it look nice, nothing wrong with that.

ISI made a couple of tracks that were pretty wrong, Barcelona & shanghi I think had some issues with elevations.

As for this game tho, it looks promising with gentle throttle application and corrective steering needed as well as breaking for corners! I will have to recommend it to my console playing friends.

]]> By: logos http://www.virtualr.net/supercar-challenge-nurburgring-lap/comment-page-1/#comment-20275 logos Fri, 22 May 2009 12:19:20 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=3585#comment-20275 <blockquote cite="comment-20257"> <strong><a href="#comment-20257" rel="nofollow">JimmyTheFox</a></strong>: And I quote: “Whilst we try to make the race track itself as accurate as possible, sometimes we use creative license to improve the look of the circuits. Regards Eutechnyx Team” </blockquote> I don't know what kind of creative license they are using, but it seems more like a licensing issue. :lol: Somewhat as ISI's incorrectly named tracks with accurate layouts, but in this game the opposite - a fantasy track with an accurate name. :lol: Aside from that, the game looks good. If they fix and improve the Ferrari Challenge engine, on which this is based, SCC could be a very fun racing game.

JimmyTheFox:
And I quote:
“Whilst we try to make the race track itself as accurate as possible, sometimes we use creative license to improve the look of the circuits.
Regards
Eutechnyx Team”

I don’t know what kind of creative license they are using, but it seems more like a licensing issue. :lol:
Somewhat as ISI’s incorrectly named tracks with accurate layouts, but in this game the opposite – a fantasy track with an accurate name. :lol:

Aside from that, the game looks good. If they fix and improve the Ferrari Challenge engine, on which this is based, SCC could be a very fun racing game.

]]> By: ScHiRoCk http://www.virtualr.net/supercar-challenge-nurburgring-lap/comment-page-1/#comment-20274 ScHiRoCk Fri, 22 May 2009 11:34:13 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=3585#comment-20274 Lol, they give a nice example what they can do with spa and with this track they just ruine it °_° Also gearshifting, the guy in the car is moving his arm after the gear changing... Does not look good to me... Lol, they give a nice example what they can do with spa and with this track they just ruine it °_°

Also gearshifting, the guy in the car is moving his arm after the gear changing…

Does not look good to me…

]]> By: dabe http://www.virtualr.net/supercar-challenge-nurburgring-lap/comment-page-1/#comment-20272 dabe Fri, 22 May 2009 08:07:40 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=3585#comment-20272 Had to signup-to leave a comment, i liked the spa video and was really impressed with the feel of the track however this video just left me dissapointed. I don't really care whats on the side of the track the major thing for me, wether arcade or sim is that if they put a real world track in the gamne the layout & elevation should be accurate. Which sadly this is not, I've driven the track in my MINI and the two things that standout to me is the first corner elevation & tightness, turn 5's drop in elevation & then the climb up to the chicane just before the last corner. I don't think they could've got the layout more wrong. You can't put laguna seca in a game and then flatten out the cork screw to 'balance gameplay'. Sort it out guys! Had to signup-to leave a comment, i liked the spa video and was really impressed with the feel of the track however this video just left me dissapointed. I don’t really care whats on the side of the track the major thing for me, wether arcade or sim is that if they put a real world track in the gamne the layout & elevation should be accurate. Which sadly this is not, I’ve driven the track in my MINI and the two things that standout to me is the first corner elevation & tightness, turn 5’s drop in elevation & then the climb up to the chicane just before the last corner. I don’t think they could’ve got the layout more wrong.

You can’t put laguna seca in a game and then flatten out the cork screw to ‘balance gameplay’. Sort it out guys!

]]> By: ForzaBarca88 http://www.virtualr.net/supercar-challenge-nurburgring-lap/comment-page-1/#comment-20271 ForzaBarca88 Fri, 22 May 2009 07:57:24 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=3585#comment-20271 Assuming this is for the ps3, this has to be a simulation right? Its gonna gonna be tough for it to compete with GT5 if its just gonna try to balance realism with arcade elements. And if this is meant to be a simulation then they've got plenty of work to do, especially that track.... BTW, is it just me or do the graphics look rFactor-ish? :eek: Assuming this is for the ps3, this has to be a simulation right? Its gonna gonna be tough for it to compete with GT5 if its just gonna try to balance realism with arcade elements. And if this is meant to be a simulation then they’ve got plenty of work to do, especially that track….

BTW, is it just me or do the graphics look rFactor-ish? :eek:

]]> By: MadCat360 http://www.virtualr.net/supercar-challenge-nurburgring-lap/comment-page-1/#comment-20270 MadCat360 Fri, 22 May 2009 04:51:50 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=3585#comment-20270 The graphics look pretty good, the driving dynamics look good, but what's up with the slow shift animation? And the weird revs during the shift... it's like the ignition kill isn't working. I'd say... it needs a little bit of work yet. The graphics look pretty good, the driving dynamics look good, but what’s up with the slow shift animation? And the weird revs during the shift… it’s like the ignition kill isn’t working.

I’d say… it needs a little bit of work yet.

]]> By: hypertek http://www.virtualr.net/supercar-challenge-nurburgring-lap/comment-page-1/#comment-20269 hypertek Fri, 22 May 2009 04:22:00 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=3585#comment-20269 guys it looks great for a console game.. lets not forget that.. Hopefully it will get good reviews and good advertising to support it.. If it becomes popular, it might fuel the console game makers more towards realistic sims and away from arcade-like racers. I already got a few friends looking forward to the next Need For speed game, yet they wont pick up smaller titles like ferrari challange because those games dont get enough credit/reviews/buzz around them. guys it looks great for a console game.. lets not forget that.. Hopefully it will get good reviews and good advertising to support it.. If it becomes popular, it might fuel the console game makers more towards realistic sims and away from arcade-like racers. I already got a few friends looking forward to the next Need For speed game, yet they wont pick up smaller titles like ferrari challange because those games dont get enough credit/reviews/buzz around them.

]]> By: dadada1 http://www.virtualr.net/supercar-challenge-nurburgring-lap/comment-page-1/#comment-20268 dadada1 Fri, 22 May 2009 02:02:25 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=3585#comment-20268 Elevaton changes dont look good, circuit looks flatter than we're used to. Elevaton changes dont look good, circuit looks flatter than we’re used to.

]]> By: Skillcoil http://www.virtualr.net/supercar-challenge-nurburgring-lap/comment-page-1/#comment-20267 Skillcoil Fri, 22 May 2009 01:54:41 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=3585#comment-20267 well, it looks like Mclaren F1 used DBR9 sound .. I think this will be changed soon. as for the upshift/downshift sound. ITS REALLY ANNOYING! thats why I hated Ferrari Challenge .. Ive never heard this sound in real life video or any other racing game its just really annoying '' vroooooom DOPOP (chopping meat) then vreeooom (the engine goes slowly to the next rpm) sounds like misshifting .. idk well, it looks like Mclaren F1 used DBR9 sound .. I think this will be changed soon.

as for the upshift/downshift sound. ITS REALLY ANNOYING! thats why I hated Ferrari Challenge .. Ive never heard this sound in real life video or any other racing game its just really annoying ” vroooooom DOPOP (chopping meat) then vreeooom (the engine goes slowly to the next rpm) sounds like misshifting .. idk

]]> By: mike http://www.virtualr.net/supercar-challenge-nurburgring-lap/comment-page-1/#comment-20266 mike Fri, 22 May 2009 01:39:08 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=3585#comment-20266 maxs the comment section exists for for a reason its not there just for OMG THIS IS THE BEST GAME EVER etc..... -the sounds are really horrendous and the track is lacking accuracy but like its been said since its for console the track layout wont matter much. maxs the comment section exists for for a reason its not there just for OMG THIS IS THE BEST GAME EVER etc…..

-the sounds are really horrendous and the track is lacking accuracy but like its been said since its for console the track layout wont matter much.

]]> By: maxs http://www.virtualr.net/supercar-challenge-nurburgring-lap/comment-page-1/#comment-20264 maxs Fri, 22 May 2009 00:56:44 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=3585#comment-20264 jesus all i can see is complaining are you Polish goddamn the game looks and sound AWESOME for me the grass here the grass there WTF ru all talking about ?! the one thing i dont like is to slow moving hands while shifting the rest AWESOME jesus christ ............. jesus all i can see is complaining are you Polish goddamn the game looks and sound AWESOME for me the grass here the grass there WTF ru all talking about ?!

the one thing i dont like is to slow moving hands while shifting the rest AWESOME

jesus christ ………….

]]> By: BSR-WiX http://www.virtualr.net/supercar-challenge-nurburgring-lap/comment-page-1/#comment-20263 BSR-WiX Fri, 22 May 2009 00:42:11 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=3585#comment-20263 The shifting sounds are actually sounding like the backshifts of a Lambo GT3. As far as track accuracy, i dont think this would matter. the focus will without a doubt be Arcade. I do not mean that in the negative way, because i do understand thats where the commercial market is on the PS3. Are arcade racers really going to care if the track is spot on or not ? do they know how the track is spot on ? so in the end of the day , we should value it for what it is. a Nice looking arcade racer. The shifting sounds are actually sounding like the backshifts of a Lambo GT3.
As far as track accuracy, i dont think this would matter. the focus will without a doubt be Arcade. I do not mean that in the negative way, because i do understand thats where the commercial market is on the PS3. Are arcade racers really going to care if the track is spot on or not ? do they know how the track is spot on ? so in the end of the day , we should value it for what it is. a Nice looking arcade racer.

]]> By: JimmyB http://www.virtualr.net/supercar-challenge-nurburgring-lap/comment-page-1/#comment-20262 JimmyB Fri, 22 May 2009 00:31:13 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=3585#comment-20262 Well, I'm not sure I'll ever play this game simply due to the fact I don't own a PS3, but the track definitely looks way off at times. I remember watching the track videos on the Ferrari Challenge website back when that game came out, thinking how odd the tracks looked then too(and I don't mean the scenery). Well, I’m not sure I’ll ever play this game simply due to the fact I don’t own a PS3, but the track definitely looks way off at times.

I remember watching the track videos on the Ferrari Challenge website back when that game came out, thinking how odd the tracks looked then too(and I don’t mean the scenery).

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