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		<title>By: LensFlare</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/simbin-sms-trouble-brewing/comment-page-1#comment-16625</link>
		<dc:creator>LensFlare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 18:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darn, website didn&#039;t answer. Sorry for double post.</description>
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		<title>By: LensFlare</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/simbin-sms-trouble-brewing/comment-page-1#comment-16624</link>
		<dc:creator>LensFlare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 18:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I meant Need for Speed by EA</description>
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		<title>By: LensFlare</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/simbin-sms-trouble-brewing/comment-page-1#comment-16623</link>
		<dc:creator>LensFlare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 18:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I meant Need for Speed</description>
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		<title>By: LensFlare</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/simbin-sms-trouble-brewing/comment-page-1#comment-16622</link>
		<dc:creator>LensFlare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 18:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it is ever released...  :roll:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it is ever released&#8230;  <img src='http://www.virtualr.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: XOR</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/simbin-sms-trouble-brewing/comment-page-1#comment-16621</link>
		<dc:creator>XOR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 17:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry I meant Race Pro (on 360)</description>
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		<title>By: XOR</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/simbin-sms-trouble-brewing/comment-page-1#comment-16620</link>
		<dc:creator>XOR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 17:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So many prams without any toys round here.

This whole story has to make you laugh, surely a cursory glance at the credit lists (or even MobyGames) will very quickly show where the &#039;talent&#039; is.

So far as Blimey/SMS not releasing anything for a while, well neither have Polyphony Digital, but still the biggest game on everyone&#039;s lips &amp; the game to beat is GT5 - even though not many (if anyone) have seen the game beyond the rather bland DEMO.

Finally if it is the same lot who gave us the superb GTR (etc), then why is the latest release (Race360) so bad, achieving a distinctly average score (70 metacritic - reviews as bad as 50% by games) in official reviews, across all the areas which made the original games great. I&#039;m sure we will all learn the truth whenever this &#039;Shift&#039; game is released.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So many prams without any toys round here.</p>
<p>This whole story has to make you laugh, surely a cursory glance at the credit lists (or even MobyGames) will very quickly show where the &#8216;talent&#8217; is.</p>
<p>So far as Blimey/SMS not releasing anything for a while, well neither have Polyphony Digital, but still the biggest game on everyone&#8217;s lips &amp; the game to beat is GT5 &#8211; even though not many (if anyone) have seen the game beyond the rather bland DEMO.</p>
<p>Finally if it is the same lot who gave us the superb GTR (etc), then why is the latest release (Race360) so bad, achieving a distinctly average score (70 metacritic &#8211; reviews as bad as 50% by games) in official reviews, across all the areas which made the original games great. I&#8217;m sure we will all learn the truth whenever this &#8216;Shift&#8217; game is released.</p>
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		<title>By: MrcL</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/simbin-sms-trouble-brewing/comment-page-1#comment-16619</link>
		<dc:creator>MrcL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 14:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so much for freedom of speech...referring to the other article...get a sniff of what&#039;s actually happening and achmed yelling &quot;SILENCE&quot; is waiting just around the corner.  :wink:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so much for freedom of speech&#8230;referring to the other article&#8230;get a sniff of what&#8217;s actually happening and achmed yelling &#8220;SILENCE&#8221; is waiting just around the corner.  <img src='http://www.virtualr.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=':wink:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Vkt</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/simbin-sms-trouble-brewing/comment-page-1#comment-16613</link>
		<dc:creator>Vkt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>/opera soap :ooo:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>/opera soap <img src='http://www.virtualr.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_exclaim.gif' alt=':ooo:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: JimmyB</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/simbin-sms-trouble-brewing/comment-page-1#comment-16611</link>
		<dc:creator>JimmyB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Edit - Apologies, just saw the update on the other post. DON&#039;T SUE ME!  :lol: 

I didn&#039;t say a word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Edit &#8211; Apologies, just saw the update on the other post. DON&#8217;T SUE ME!  <img src='http://www.virtualr.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t say a word.</p>
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		<title>By: JimmyB</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/simbin-sms-trouble-brewing/comment-page-1#comment-16610</link>
		<dc:creator>JimmyB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure I see any significant changes? GTR 2&#039;s moved to the top of the list and a piece of text has been moved.  :neutral: 

Details of the split have always been hush-hush, but it&#039;s becoming apparent that Blimey Games were actually the sole developers of GTR 2. So I&#039;m not sure what either party are really getting at here. SMS are surely well within their rights to claim that their team created the game? Why is this an issue all of a sudden?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure I see any significant changes? GTR 2&#8242;s moved to the top of the list and a piece of text has been moved.  <img src='http://www.virtualr.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif' alt=':neutral:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Details of the split have always been hush-hush, but it&#8217;s becoming apparent that Blimey Games were actually the sole developers of GTR 2. So I&#8217;m not sure what either party are really getting at here. SMS are surely well within their rights to claim that their team created the game? Why is this an issue all of a sudden?</p>
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		<title>By: LensFlare</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/simbin-sms-trouble-brewing/comment-page-1#comment-16608</link>
		<dc:creator>LensFlare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 20:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You doubt they want a fight... That&#039;s probably why they sent a lawyer to Virtualr.net because they did not like one user posted comment. (which is stupid because Virtualr cannot be responsible for user posted comments)

It&#039;s not the fact that they change the text on the website, it&#039;s more about the fact that Ian Bell claims that there&#039;s nothing false on it and that SimBin&#039;s lying, but changes it asap so that it&#039;s reflects more the truth. 

What do we care, well, it&#039;s publically announced, so I guess we can comment on it, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You doubt they want a fight&#8230; That&#8217;s probably why they sent a lawyer to Virtualr.net because they did not like one user posted comment. (which is stupid because Virtualr cannot be responsible for user posted comments)</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not the fact that they change the text on the website, it&#8217;s more about the fact that Ian Bell claims that there&#8217;s nothing false on it and that SimBin&#8217;s lying, but changes it asap so that it&#8217;s reflects more the truth. </p>
<p>What do we care, well, it&#8217;s publically announced, so I guess we can comment on it, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Cratz</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/simbin-sms-trouble-brewing/comment-page-1#comment-16606</link>
		<dc:creator>Cratz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 20:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, now I think about. Why do we all care? Let them sort it out themselves. If SMS have changed their site to reflect SimBin&#039;s demands then SimBin should be happy. Maybe if they BOTH stop playing childish bitch fighting and got back to work then everyone can be happy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, now I think about. Why do we all care? Let them sort it out themselves. If SMS have changed their site to reflect SimBin&#8217;s demands then SimBin should be happy. Maybe if they BOTH stop playing childish bitch fighting and got back to work then everyone can be happy.</p>
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		<title>By: Cratz</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/simbin-sms-trouble-brewing/comment-page-1#comment-16605</link>
		<dc:creator>Cratz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 20:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG LENSFLARE YOU&#039;RE RIGHT, they... CENTER ALIGNED AND PUT THE TEXT IN BOLD. Guilty as sin.

Can you blame them for trying to make SimBin happy, I doubt they want a fight, they are probably more interested in making videogames.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG LENSFLARE YOU&#8217;RE RIGHT, they&#8230; CENTER ALIGNED AND PUT THE TEXT IN BOLD. Guilty as sin.</p>
<p>Can you blame them for trying to make SimBin happy, I doubt they want a fight, they are probably more interested in making videogames.</p>
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		<title>By: LensFlare</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/simbin-sms-trouble-brewing/comment-page-1#comment-16596</link>
		<dc:creator>LensFlare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 18:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Their website changed totally !

Look at google cache for slightlymadstudios.com/games !

I made a screenshot:

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/4356/40587835pb5.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Their website changed totally !</p>
<p>Look at google cache for slightlymadstudios.com/games !</p>
<p>I made a screenshot:</p>
<p><a href="http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/4356/40587835pb5.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/4356/40587835pb5.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: Cratz</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/simbin-sms-trouble-brewing/comment-page-1#comment-16573</link>
		<dc:creator>Cratz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 10:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just browsing their website, is this new? http://www.slightlymadstudios.com/about/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just browsing their website, is this new? <a href="http://www.slightlymadstudios.com/about/" rel="nofollow">http://www.slightlymadstudios.com/about/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Cratz</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/simbin-sms-trouble-brewing/comment-page-1#comment-16572</link>
		<dc:creator>Cratz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 10:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still don&#039;t understand what the legal action would be. In the statement SimBin are upset over (the one from the EA press release), it says, &quot;Slightly Mad Studios includes developers and designers that worked on the critically acclaimed games GT Legends and GTR 2.&quot; Which every one agrees, is true. So... what are they taking legal action over?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still don&#8217;t understand what the legal action would be. In the statement SimBin are upset over (the one from the EA press release), it says, &#8220;Slightly Mad Studios includes developers and designers that worked on the critically acclaimed games GT Legends and GTR 2.&#8221; Which every one agrees, is true. So&#8230; what are they taking legal action over?</p>
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		<title>By: F1fan</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/simbin-sms-trouble-brewing/comment-page-1#comment-16571</link>
		<dc:creator>F1fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 10:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems Carlton has some inside info about SimBin titles...

http://www.virtualr.net/race-pro-demo-content-revealed/#comment-16236

So tell us, who are you really? Working for SimBin maybe  :roll:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems Carlton has some inside info about SimBin titles&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.virtualr.net/race-pro-demo-content-revealed/#comment-16236" rel="nofollow">http://www.virtualr.net/race-pro-demo-content-revealed/#comment-16236</a></p>
<p>So tell us, who are you really? Working for SimBin maybe  <img src='http://www.virtualr.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: yakshemash</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/simbin-sms-trouble-brewing/comment-page-1#comment-16570</link>
		<dc:creator>yakshemash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 10:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to carlton: 

yes right... Simbin released 4 exactly the same games (mods of GTR2 imo) only with different names and couple of different cars...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to carlton: </p>
<p>yes right&#8230; Simbin released 4 exactly the same games (mods of GTR2 imo) only with different names and couple of different cars&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: F1fan</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/simbin-sms-trouble-brewing/comment-page-1#comment-16569</link>
		<dc:creator>F1fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 10:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carlton wrote: &quot;Zusje is totally right here. Making a new NFS title doesn’t give you the right to do anything .&quot;

What does that even mean? What has NFS got to do with the topic here?

Carlton, you seem very angry about all this. Why do you even care? Did you have shares in SimBin and 10T? ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carlton wrote: &#8220;Zusje is totally right here. Making a new NFS title doesn’t give you the right to do anything .&#8221;</p>
<p>What does that even mean? What has NFS got to do with the topic here?</p>
<p>Carlton, you seem very angry about all this. Why do you even care? Did you have shares in SimBin and 10T? ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Cratz</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/simbin-sms-trouble-brewing/comment-page-1#comment-16567</link>
		<dc:creator>Cratz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 10:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s funny that SimBim choose now to mention all this when Blimey and Slightly Mad have been saying the same thing for years. It&#039;s almost as though there is a game coming out this month by Simbim... coincidence?   :roll:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s funny that SimBim choose now to mention all this when Blimey and Slightly Mad have been saying the same thing for years. It&#8217;s almost as though there is a game coming out this month by Simbim&#8230; coincidence?   <img src='http://www.virtualr.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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