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		<title>By: paupau</title>
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		<dc:creator>paupau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 01:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: paupau</title>
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		<dc:creator>paupau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 01:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What happend to 24h racing? Where is LeMans? Where is Spa? I want a 24h edurance race at Nurburing.
Why don&#039;t SimBin make a Le Mans Series with prototypes and 24h format?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What happend to 24h racing? Where is LeMans? Where is Spa? I want a 24h edurance race at Nurburing.<br />
Why don&#8217;t SimBin make a Le Mans Series with prototypes and 24h format?</p>
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		<title>By: JimmyB</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimmyB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not just about shiny graphics though. While I&#039;ll buy this to support Simbin, I think people just want to see some progression. Even now it&#039;s very debatable whether or not a game like GTR Evolution is a significant step ahead of GT Legends - a game that&#039;s now 3-4 years old. In terms of racing mechanics - they&#039;ve always been great, but what else has changed? I&#039;m just not sure how much longer Simbin plan to sustain themselves by marketing and releasing glorified car/trackpacks. It&#039;s more than likely that something much bigger is going on behind the scenes, but let&#039;s hope we see it sooner rather than later.

Generally I just want to see some progression in the genre as a whole. Why should sim-racing still be inherently hamstrung by outdated graphics, dated production values, a lack of polish and being painfully inaccessible? It&#039;s probably about time somebody attempted to address these issues properly. GTR2 was probably the best effort in terms of putting together a well-rounded, immersive and accessible game. It&#039;s no coincidence that it&#039;s also the most critically-acclaimed, and by far the most well-known racing sim outside of communities like this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not just about shiny graphics though. While I&#8217;ll buy this to support Simbin, I think people just want to see some progression. Even now it&#8217;s very debatable whether or not a game like GTR Evolution is a significant step ahead of GT Legends &#8211; a game that&#8217;s now 3-4 years old. In terms of racing mechanics &#8211; they&#8217;ve always been great, but what else has changed? I&#8217;m just not sure how much longer Simbin plan to sustain themselves by marketing and releasing glorified car/trackpacks. It&#8217;s more than likely that something much bigger is going on behind the scenes, but let&#8217;s hope we see it sooner rather than later.</p>
<p>Generally I just want to see some progression in the genre as a whole. Why should sim-racing still be inherently hamstrung by outdated graphics, dated production values, a lack of polish and being painfully inaccessible? It&#8217;s probably about time somebody attempted to address these issues properly. GTR2 was probably the best effort in terms of putting together a well-rounded, immersive and accessible game. It&#8217;s no coincidence that it&#8217;s also the most critically-acclaimed, and by far the most well-known racing sim outside of communities like this one.</p>
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		<title>By: phil23</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/simbin-announces-race-on/comment-page-1/#comment-17542</link>
		<dc:creator>phil23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree completely skid.

I still watch replays in rFactor, GTR2 and Race/Evo and I think back to when I could only dream of seeing my virtual rides looking so good. Yes I&#039;ve owned and played games like GRID and DIRT, Forza2, PGR4 and GT5, but none of them ever get me as hooked as all these Gmotor based titles have.

All that really matters is how it feels and the immersion and realism.

If a game like Need4Speed Shift were to feel like a Simbin title then we&#039;d have it all, but it is unlikely in the next year or 2. Infact I don&#039;t doubt that our first Next Gen Race Sim will come from these guys eventually. 

I know rFactor 2 is on it&#039;s way, but I don&#039;t think they will push the boundaries visually (though I&#039;m sure it will be a good step forward). Lizard will eventually get onto our PC&#039;s and I&#039;m sure it will be worth it when it does. Until then, as long as they keep my current Sims content coming, then I&#039;ll support them. :happy:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree completely skid.</p>
<p>I still watch replays in rFactor, GTR2 and Race/Evo and I think back to when I could only dream of seeing my virtual rides looking so good. Yes I&#8217;ve owned and played games like GRID and DIRT, Forza2, PGR4 and GT5, but none of them ever get me as hooked as all these Gmotor based titles have.</p>
<p>All that really matters is how it feels and the immersion and realism.</p>
<p>If a game like Need4Speed Shift were to feel like a Simbin title then we&#8217;d have it all, but it is unlikely in the next year or 2. Infact I don&#8217;t doubt that our first Next Gen Race Sim will come from these guys eventually. </p>
<p>I know rFactor 2 is on it&#8217;s way, but I don&#8217;t think they will push the boundaries visually (though I&#8217;m sure it will be a good step forward). Lizard will eventually get onto our PC&#8217;s and I&#8217;m sure it will be worth it when it does. Until then, as long as they keep my current Sims content coming, then I&#8217;ll support them. <img src='http://www.virtualr.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':happy:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: skid</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/simbin-announces-race-on/comment-page-1/#comment-17536</link>
		<dc:creator>skid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 19:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it quite interesting to read about the priorities some people seem to set. All this talk about &quot;next generation&quot; and shiny graphics. Dunno, I&#039;m still fine with the Race&#039;07 looks and it&#039;s racing mechanics. I mean, graphics is one of the least important things in a simulation anyway.

Sure, Simbin does some recycling here and there but as long as the new content and the price is right (it was alright for the previous two add-ons in my opinion) and the game runs solid, I don&#039;t really care. But hey, that&#039;s just my opinion...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it quite interesting to read about the priorities some people seem to set. All this talk about &#8220;next generation&#8221; and shiny graphics. Dunno, I&#8217;m still fine with the Race&#8217;07 looks and it&#8217;s racing mechanics. I mean, graphics is one of the least important things in a simulation anyway.</p>
<p>Sure, Simbin does some recycling here and there but as long as the new content and the price is right (it was alright for the previous two add-ons in my opinion) and the game runs solid, I don&#8217;t really care. But hey, that&#8217;s just my opinion&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ScHiRoCk</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/simbin-announces-race-on/comment-page-1/#comment-17535</link>
		<dc:creator>ScHiRoCk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crap i already got STCC...

Payed for nothing... lame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crap i already got STCC&#8230;</p>
<p>Payed for nothing&#8230; lame.</p>
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		<title>By: xilix</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/simbin-announces-race-on/comment-page-1/#comment-17527</link>
		<dc:creator>xilix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is laughable. I can&#039;t wait to inspect the code in this expansion so I can find even more ridiculous development follies. 

This series is getting quite exhausted wouldn&#039;t you say? There&#039;s no way I&#039;m payin&#039; full price for another mod. The last one I bought was Evo and I refuse to open my wallet again until they release a next generation title.

Oh... and what&#039;aya say Simbin... how &#039;bout this time &#039;round, you don&#039;t copy&amp;paste code?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is laughable. I can&#8217;t wait to inspect the code in this expansion so I can find even more ridiculous development follies. </p>
<p>This series is getting quite exhausted wouldn&#8217;t you say? There&#8217;s no way I&#8217;m payin&#8217; full price for another mod. The last one I bought was Evo and I refuse to open my wallet again until they release a next generation title.</p>
<p>Oh&#8230; and what&#8217;aya say Simbin&#8230; how &#8217;bout this time &#8217;round, you don&#8217;t copy&amp;paste code?</p>
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		<title>By: MarkusM</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/simbin-announces-race-on/comment-page-1/#comment-17519</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkusM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 11:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>race on. next one will be called &quot;carry on&quot; ? :happyevil:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>race on. next one will be called &#8220;carry on&#8221; ? <img src='http://www.virtualr.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif' alt=':happyevil:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: stabiz</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/simbin-announces-race-on/comment-page-1/#comment-17515</link>
		<dc:creator>stabiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 01:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I`m passing on this one. (Until a supermod requires it for dvd-check)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I`m passing on this one. (Until a supermod requires it for dvd-check)</p>
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		<title>By: Gabkicks</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/simbin-announces-race-on/comment-page-1/#comment-17513</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabkicks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 23:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was hoping this used the lizard engine.</description>
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		<title>By: zand</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/simbin-announces-race-on/comment-page-1/#comment-17512</link>
		<dc:creator>zand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I’m a disappointed. I was hoping for A1GP or GP2... :sad2:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m a disappointed. I was hoping for A1GP or GP2&#8230; <img src='http://www.virtualr.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':sad2:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Vkt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vkt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>they don&#039;t have my money , one more time...  :roll:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they don&#8217;t have my money , one more time&#8230;  <img src='http://www.virtualr.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: LensFlare</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/simbin-announces-race-on/comment-page-1/#comment-17510</link>
		<dc:creator>LensFlare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apart from night racing and shadows in cockpit, what did GTR2 have that Race07 doesn&#039;t?

I mean, i&#039;ve learned to live with it.

I&#039;m sure we&#039;ll see night racing on the awaited Lizard based new sim.

But for now, be prepared, because they might just release another addon this year. After all, they talked about &quot;other addonS for 2009&quot;.

I personnaly think it&#039;s pretty cool... Adding content to keep the fun. We now have a pretty much complete platform, open to modding and so on. 

Again, I only miss night racing. The rest is better than GTR2 in my opinion...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apart from night racing and shadows in cockpit, what did GTR2 have that Race07 doesn&#8217;t?</p>
<p>I mean, i&#8217;ve learned to live with it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure we&#8217;ll see night racing on the awaited Lizard based new sim.</p>
<p>But for now, be prepared, because they might just release another addon this year. After all, they talked about &#8220;other addonS for 2009&#8243;.</p>
<p>I personnaly think it&#8217;s pretty cool&#8230; Adding content to keep the fun. We now have a pretty much complete platform, open to modding and so on. </p>
<p>Again, I only miss night racing. The rest is better than GTR2 in my opinion&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Vivian Stans</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/simbin-announces-race-on/comment-page-1/#comment-17508</link>
		<dc:creator>Vivian Stans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I definitely gonna buy, no doubt about it. but I like solid high-end games and that was and still is GTR2 and that is what Race07 is missing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I definitely gonna buy, no doubt about it. but I like solid high-end games and that was and still is GTR2 and that is what Race07 is missing.</p>
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		<title>By: skid</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/simbin-announces-race-on/comment-page-1/#comment-17505</link>
		<dc:creator>skid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I honestly can&#039;t understand some guys here complaining about this not being a Lizard PC game. We all know since last year that Simbin was planing more Race&#039;07 expansion pack(s) for 2009. I mean, who is even surprised about this being on gmotor?

About the expansion. Sounds cool and I will get this for sure. I&#039;m still a bit disappointed though as I was hoping for a really &quot;highly requested series&quot; they were once announcing. BTCC would have been awesome. Well, maybe there&#039;s more down the line - I&#039;m certainly hoping for further add-ons as I just love the Race&#039;07 base and it&#039;s growing content.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I honestly can&#8217;t understand some guys here complaining about this not being a Lizard PC game. We all know since last year that Simbin was planing more Race&#8217;07 expansion pack(s) for 2009. I mean, who is even surprised about this being on gmotor?</p>
<p>About the expansion. Sounds cool and I will get this for sure. I&#8217;m still a bit disappointed though as I was hoping for a really &#8220;highly requested series&#8221; they were once announcing. BTCC would have been awesome. Well, maybe there&#8217;s more down the line &#8211; I&#8217;m certainly hoping for further add-ons as I just love the Race&#8217;07 base and it&#8217;s growing content.</p>
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		<title>By: AeroMechanical</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/simbin-announces-race-on/comment-page-1/#comment-17504</link>
		<dc:creator>AeroMechanical</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a little disappointed too.  I was hoping Toad was a change over to their new engine or at the very least the addition of some of the more fundamental features missing since GTR2 like night-racing and more race types.

They keep adding a little bit of content and presenting it as though it were a totally new title and they&#039;ve been doing this for a while now.  The new additions look pretty cool, but it&#039;s time for a genuinely new sim already.  From the perspective of a new customer though, it really seems like a cool package.  

The muscle cars and US tracks ought to be interesting, kind of like adding GTL content the way EVO added GTR2 content.  Formula Masters ought to fit in nicely between FBMW and F3000 too.  For sure I&#039;m going to buy it, but I&#039;d hoped for a bigger change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a little disappointed too.  I was hoping Toad was a change over to their new engine or at the very least the addition of some of the more fundamental features missing since GTR2 like night-racing and more race types.</p>
<p>They keep adding a little bit of content and presenting it as though it were a totally new title and they&#8217;ve been doing this for a while now.  The new additions look pretty cool, but it&#8217;s time for a genuinely new sim already.  From the perspective of a new customer though, it really seems like a cool package.  </p>
<p>The muscle cars and US tracks ought to be interesting, kind of like adding GTL content the way EVO added GTR2 content.  Formula Masters ought to fit in nicely between FBMW and F3000 too.  For sure I&#8217;m going to buy it, but I&#8217;d hoped for a bigger change.</p>
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		<title>By: JimmyB</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/simbin-announces-race-on/comment-page-1/#comment-17502</link>
		<dc:creator>JimmyB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GTR2 is a Simbin title, but it was developed by Blimey! Games acting as a subcontractor to Simbin, who presumably were going through a phase of rebuilding. I don&#039;t think Blimey even existed until a couple of months before the release of GTL.

http://www.mobygames.com/game/windows/gtr-2-fia-gt-racing-game/credits</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GTR2 is a Simbin title, but it was developed by Blimey! Games acting as a subcontractor to Simbin, who presumably were going through a phase of rebuilding. I don&#8217;t think Blimey even existed until a couple of months before the release of GTL.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mobygames.com/game/windows/gtr-2-fia-gt-racing-game/credits" rel="nofollow">http://www.mobygames.com/game/windows/gtr-2-fia-gt-racing-game/credits</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tomas, www.custom-8.dk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tomas, www.custom-8.dk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blimey! made GT Legends, GTR2 is a Simbin product under 10tacle Studios marketed by Atari. They reason why there is no dynamic lightning in RACE&#039;07 is that the featured series does&#039;nt require it - and making tracks that support it flawlessly are VERY timeconsuming..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blimey! made GT Legends, GTR2 is a Simbin product under 10tacle Studios marketed by Atari. They reason why there is no dynamic lightning in RACE&#8217;07 is that the featured series does&#8217;nt require it &#8211; and making tracks that support it flawlessly are VERY timeconsuming..</p>
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		<title>By: MatzeLoCal</title>
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		<dc:creator>MatzeLoCal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Count me to the disappointed ones.

A successor of GTR2 would have been great. More 24-Hour-Races would be great. Maybe again something historic. 24-Hours at Le Mans, Nordschleife, Spa,... with Porsche 917 and so on. How about the &quot;game to the movie&quot; ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Count me to the disappointed ones.</p>
<p>A successor of GTR2 would have been great. More 24-Hour-Races would be great. Maybe again something historic. 24-Hours at Le Mans, Nordschleife, Spa,&#8230; with Porsche 917 and so on. How about the &#8220;game to the movie&#8221; ;)</p>
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		<title>By: JimmyB</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimmyB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the lack of Lizard is a disappointment, but if the price is right then I&#039;ll definitely pick it up. STCC + RACE On + GTR Evo = pretty damn good package there. 

GTR2 was created by Blimey Games, which explains the differences between the series. Which is why some of us are cautiously optimistic about a certain other title. Although I won&#039;t give up hope that one day we&#039;ll see a proper GTR3, as Simbin have still got the FIA GT license (I think?).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the lack of Lizard is a disappointment, but if the price is right then I&#8217;ll definitely pick it up. STCC + RACE On + GTR Evo = pretty damn good package there. </p>
<p>GTR2 was created by Blimey Games, which explains the differences between the series. Which is why some of us are cautiously optimistic about a certain other title. Although I won&#8217;t give up hope that one day we&#8217;ll see a proper GTR3, as Simbin have still got the FIA GT license (I think?).</p>
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