I’ve been trying to keep away from iRacing posts in this blog… And when I get back to check if things are now civilized I find the same hateful and bitter comments again.

Howie, you should lighten up man. You gave it go, it wasn’t for you. Let it go.

It’s a shame you didn’t join any online session at all during your free trial. It would have been interesting to see what kind of player is such a strong opinionated guy.

/Chris

SergeantBoner: I cant belive how this is of any relevance?Iracing and all of its content is mainly from the USA, all the tracks and cars and series its trying to simulate, even the logo.I cant see why the rest of the world would be interested in a game that only include cars that dont exist on any other continent or country or whatever, its like hollywood when they make a disastermovie and the world is going under, it is set in washington and only filmed in america and everybody speaks american its like YOU(people in USA) doesent understand WE(the rest of the world) exist, people in other countries with OTHER interest than cars running around in an oval none has ever been to.Saying that Im feed up with stars ‘n stripes, and give us F1, ETCC, WRC, Le Mans, V8 Supercars.. etc Then I might get some interest of this game and all of its publicity.

You have no idea how the world works outside of your little head do you?

It’s a hell of a lot easier and cheaper to make licensing deals with consumer- and marketing-oriented sanctioning bodies like NASCAR, SCCA and IndyCar than the FIA and FOM, which charge exorbitant prices for limited rights.

Plus, as ermax said, iRacing already is working on Zandvoort, Brands Hatch and the Australian V8 Supercars. I’m sure more non-North American content is in the pipeline.

Take care,
PK

Did you see US (people in USA) bitching about SimBin lacking American content? Nope. Your lucky ISI (American Company) is around or you wouldn’t even have a SimBin to make your content. Get over yourself.

SergeantBoner: I cant belive how this is of any relevance?

Exactly. And USA can’t see how the rest of the world is of any relevance. Just like you.

Iracing and all of its content is mainly from the USA, all the tracks and cars and series its trying to simulate, even the logo.
I cant see why the rest of the world would be interested in a game that only include cars that dont exist on any other continent or country or whatever, its like hollywood when they make a disastermovie and the world is going under, it is set in washington and only filmed in america and everybody speaks american its like YOU(people in USA) doesent understand WE(the rest of the world) exist, people in other countries with OTHER interest than cars running around in an oval none has ever been to.

Saying that Im feed up with stars ‘n stripes, and give us F1, ETCC, WRC, Le Mans, V8 Supercars.. etc Then I might get some interest of this game and all of its publicity.

Sensekhmet: Simbin and ISI PR blows. iRacing’s doesn’t. Face it. Without good PR, both ISI and Simbin (the latter probably moreso) will continue to fall deeper into the ‘nerd gamer’ hole and we (simracers) will be filed together with brain damaged addicts beating off to Warcraft.
Change your point of view. Do you realise how idiotic a guy pretending to race a car, complete with a funny little toy steering wheel and a hilarious car cockpit imitation looks to the average adult? Very. Only more PR and media presence can change that.

Very true. I have a fairly elaborate cockpit so it isn’t as easily brushed off as a silly game. They at least ask what the hell it is and often want a test drive only to find they can’t even may it through the first turn. Unless it is one of my racing friends. They can normally come up to speed in 5 laps or so.

iRacing has definitely brought a lot of attention to sim racing with all the NASCAR and SCCA exposure. An now the main stream media. Very cool.

It will be interesting to see if ISI can learn from iRacings marketing when they release rF2 but I seriously doubt it. They seem very content with a small market. I guess they do enough custom jobs to stay afloat.

Sensekhmet:
Change your point of view. Do you realise how idiotic a guy pretending to race a car, complete with a funny little toy steering wheel and a hilarious car cockpit imitation looks to the average adult? Very. Only more PR and media presence can change that.

LOL straight up.
Sim boots and trackIR dont help the look either

Howie47:
I’m betting it’s a better reality then you guys got. I’m so selfish!

Hahaha. :)

ermax18: Could be the pipe. Just a thought. Hahaha

I’m betting it’s a better reality then you guys got. I’m so selfish!

Paul Kelly:
Howie, you must tell me the brand of scotch you drink. Seems like it’s killer stuff. :)

Could be the pipe. Just a thought. Hahaha

Paul Kelly:
No, no, I’m not coming to their rescue. But I am trying to clarify for you the way the PR business works.
Money does not change hands. A PR person pitches an editor or reporter, and if that editor or reporter “bites,” the story is done. It really is that simple.This clearly was a good pitch done by a proficient PR professional. Yes, the story didn’t point out some of the cons of iRacing, but that doesn’t mean it was “paid for.”What it does mean is that the story was written for one of the most lifestyle-oriented, “featurey” sections of the paper, the Automobiles section. It’s not like this was to be the second Pentagon Papers report or a Watergate follow-up. It’s a feature for a lifestyle section of the paper — not exactly heavyweight journalism.And you’re naive if you expected anything different and also misguided if you think “money changed hands.”

Fair enough. Call me naive and misguided. :)

Paul Kelly:
We’ll agree to disagree on this one. :) ISI often is treated like a deity here and at other forums, while iRacing often is treated like the anti-Christ.It’s odd, because there’s more participation in here from iRacing officials in one week than nearly all other sim companies in a few months. I think the level of transparency and communication from iRacing officials in this and other sim racing forums has been pretty damn good, yet the management — which has been subscription-based from the start — is pilloried as ruthless, greedy, etc., etc.

No question iRacing gets bashed entirely to much. They continue to improve month after month. It is a “service” after all. I bought into it when they started allowing invites and have continued to paid since then. I am happy they are making a move to allow leagues. I just don’t think I could get my entire league to convert. Some of our guys are on a very tight budget.

Howie47: It’s the continued break down of communication because of Babel. You probable speak old world (New York) Babel; while I’ve moved on to New World Babel.You don’t want to be left behind do you Paul? After all communication is just about every thing, and “failure to cumuon-iCate” will leave you at the bottom of the heap, playing with yesterdays toys.

Howie, you must tell me the brand of scotch you drink. Seems like it’s killer stuff. :)

Paul Kelly: Howie: Can you translate that post into English, please?

It’s the continued break down of communication because of Babel. You probable speak old world (New York) Babel; while I’ve moved on to New World Babel. You don’t want to be left behind do you Paul? After all communication is just about every thing, and “failure to cumuon-iCate” will leave you at the bottom of the heap, playing with yesterdays toys.

Howie47: I’m thinking that Dave K. may run in some of the same circles as the NYT’s staff. No money had to change hands. Just who you know and who. Any way a little strange the NYT didn’t pick up on the RTR story. I would think technology wise that would be a much more interesting and worthy of a story to polish those NY humanist egos.

Maybe RTR didn’t pitch the Times. Or if it did, maybe it needs a more well-connected PR agency or executive.

PR is no different than sales. It’s about product AND relationships. And the guy who runs PR for iRacing, Steve Potter, is a consummate professional with longtime relationships with both auto racing and automotive journalists across North America.

That kind of experience and connections pay dividends, and there’s nothing illicit or unethical about it.

Howie47:
Probably the most outlandish statement yet.Any way, I think it will be a very good sign if we see Alkida sponsored Vettes. With explosions painted all over them and the words “Allah Akbar” flying out.It will mean they learned that the Pen is mightier then the sword, and that the only way to stop the A.C. is through the public forum. God knows they won’t get a word in edge wise at the NYT. I love iRacing. Soon as they get a full line up of sports cars, let you buy just the car you want to race in that series. With out having to buy all the other junk. Make the tracks more reasonably priced. I’ll have a go at it. Unless some one else has already beat them to the punch.

Howie: Can you translate that post into English, please?

ermax18: I am not faulting iRacing’s marketing. I found it funny that is had an infomercial feel to it. I was just stating I felt there was probably some money involved which makes me wonder how ofter NYT runs articles that are biased toward the guy paying the bill. I guess that is biz. But my original comment had absolutely nothing to do with iRacing. No need to come to their rescue.

No, no, I’m not coming to their rescue. But I am trying to clarify for you the way the PR business works.

Money does not change hands. A PR person pitches an editor or reporter, and if that editor or reporter “bites,” the story is done. It really is that simple.

This clearly was a good pitch done by a proficient PR professional. Yes, the story didn’t point out some of the cons of iRacing, but that doesn’t mean it was “paid for.”

What it does mean is that the story was written for one of the most lifestyle-oriented, “featurey” sections of the paper, the Automobiles section. It’s not like this was to be the second Pentagon Papers report or a Watergate follow-up. It’s a feature for a lifestyle section of the paper — not exactly heavyweight journalism.

And you’re naive if you expected anything different and also misguided if you think “money changed hands.”