rFactor 2 – Honda Civic Released

Image Space Incorporated have release the newest addon content for their rFactor 2 simulation as the Honda Civic touring car is now available.

Known from the hugely-popular British Touring Car Championship, the Civic adds a modern front-wheel driven tin top race car to rFactor 2.

You can find plenty of previews of the car and a video trailer below. Plenty of useful information on how to drive and setup this car can be found at the download location.

GTOmegaRacing.com

  • Tim Wheatley

    Thanks, Rob. Happy New Year. :)

  • Clutch Norris

    What a blast! Great car. Thanks ISI!

  • http://www.touringcarhunters.ru/ Touring Car Hunters™

    1st Great News in 2014!

    • Matt Orr

      Well… it’s still 2013 for some of us. So is it first, or is it (potentially) last?

  • Eric S

    Cant wait to get my Clubsport base back. Cheers Tim and ISI
    Happy new year!

  • wajdi nujeidat

    Great car and thanks ISI and good year for all!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LJy6IeJmho&feature=youtube_gdata_player

  • speed1

    ISI started this and still are the leaders of car simulation on pc’s. Keep it on guys, i’m with you, tha real guys. I give a damn f…k on tha fakes out there ;)

    • Kendra Jacobs

      Totally agree with u!!! ISI don’t massage their physics so that a car can feel easy and like what people on their desk chairs would like. ISI is true simulation like industrial mindset, if ppl can’t handle that then they should work on their skills read some race driving books or just stop pushing the car so hard over their skill point, but instead people watch too many videos and think look how easy it is and look how stable the car is its so easy, NOT

      • speed1

        Honestly, I would not presume as the physic of the simulations are only by the perception.

        However, I can and try to feel what is good or bad interpreted
        that’s all, and it’s only limited in respect to the used technique by the steering wheels we use for.

        We do not have the possibility to pass a judgment upon the physic engine only by sensation.

        I rate only the feeling and try to transfer this to the real technics i know very well, with positive intention, that’s all.

        However, it is often misunderstood and viewed as a bad criticism and i get more and more the feeling this gaming industry wouldn’t like to see professionals as user giving feedback, sure if it just positive, you made frends, but i’m not intrested in fake respect or fake frends. I prefer adults as pro’s knowing how to deal with such sort of people. Not everybody around is just a gamer or a pc nerd and don’t knows real cars.

        I just can lough about this situation and those having issues with there ego.

  • http://www.autosim.ru/ Max Pautov

    Oh, hell,specially waiting for!
    Thank you ISI,we are waiting for more cars,tracks!
    Happy new year guys!

  • Jim. C

    Looks good. Just reminds me how much we need a fully licensed BTCC in one of the racing sims.

    • Tim Wheatley

      I’d love this, but UK facilities and many manufacturers really don’t care. You can license world class facilities that make sales, or you can license a single track not even big enough to host a BTCC race from the UK.

      As a Brit myself, it’s terribly disappointing how much worth some of the British facilities think they have.

  • noneofyourbusiness

    Off to a good start, thank you. Here’s to a successful new year :)

  • Kev

    Amazing. Great job, ISI.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you!!! Happy New Year!

  • F1Racer

    FWD’s feel good in rF2 and this is no exception. Nice car !

    • Realkman666

      Yay, 8% of the cars feel right. :p

      • Kendra Jacobs

        Adjust your ffb or learn to drive better or stop pushing so hard. There is nothing arcadey or simcade about rf2.

      • Realkman666

        You are totally clueless.

  • Brett Mansfield

    This looks great, I’m tempted to give RF2 another go for the variety of manufacturers alone. Getting a bit sick of AC with Euro cars only.

    • Anonymous

      Kunos are a European developer what do you expect, just like when iRacing was released it had nothing but American cars & American tracks, there was no European cars & no European tracks, but we had to live with it until they produced European content, I suppose the same goes for Assetto Corsa, given time there will be a variety of content to suit all taste from around the world.

    • Kendra Jacobs

      The driving of the civic is so much more intense and raw than even the 599xx in ac, ac has stale physics compared to rf2, what are you waiting for give thus a shot

      • Jaimy Mewe

        Simple, you just can`t drive. Anyone who can knows the 599xx is an absolute beast and that it requires specific driving style to make use of the massive grip and downforce. Face it, you just can`t handle the thing…

      • Kendra Jacobs

        I can handle it fine, but like all cars in ac its stale, especially for being a 599xx. Back and forth slipping and gripping is so linear and constant and slow and lazy, you never feel the grip gripping and ungripping a ton of times in a split second because its been massaged and toned down to help players. You can do terrible things with every car and it just sticks or sometimes youll get a slow easy slide, the on/off back and forth slip and grip is slow boring and arcadey to help players. Rf2 and netkar pro and iracing dont have this problem.

        Look at any netkar pro videos, you see a lot of mini slides and a lot of mini corrections going into the corner, out of the corner and in the middle. Same with rf2 and same with iracing, but hardly in ac. In ac its just boring linear easy sliding wayyyyyy too often and everything gets so easily corrected before the slide even becomes a big angle so easily. Ac’s physics have been massaged to help players.

        AC’s physics are partly neutered, it’s like its lost one testacle, it still has the other one and still works just fine, maybe some people wont even notice, but to the few who do notice they want the real 100% raw unneutered thing.

      • Jaimy Mewe

        How old are you dude? Really?

    • Tim Wheatley

      Any sim developer will be better at getting local tracks. We’re the same. It’s unlikely I will get an Italian track (Mores was brought in by Tuttle).

  • Anonymous

    RFactor…the Real F(th)ing Great!
    Got sucked in to AC, WHY?!!!!!!

    • Kendra Jacobs

      Dont get sucked in, its all hype from people that just like massaged physics to help you feel good, rf2 is the true driving simulator

      • Anonymous

        Your right, mate.

    • Keith Horner Jr

      Probably because its better.

      • Anonymous

        That”s your opinion, and it depends on what you want from a sim.

  • Anonymous

    Uhm my rf2 does not look good like that video (even with full details) i miss something?

    • http://zerez86.blogspot.com/ zerez86

      maybe good aa

      • Anonymous

        this are my rf2 settings
        http://scr.hu/0whk/wfqsn

      • Realkman666

        Bump up those shadows, deactivate FXAA and choose a different HDR profile + time of day.

      • Anonymous

        ok i will try (the goal is get the same result as in the video)

      • Tim Wheatley

        I can’t remember what time I used, but the sun was pretty low.

        My system was recently upgraded, you can see it on my forum profile at isiforums on the about me page. I captured the video footage.

        Regardless of settings, rF2 will also scale. Sometimes with the same settings as someone with a better system, you won’t get the same visuals.

        The video was also captured in Build 342, the last build.

      • Realkman666

        “Regardless of settings, rF2 will also scale.”
        Well, that’s just fantastic.

      • Anonymous

        My screenshots, not as good as ISI’s as my PC not powerful enough to run on max everything but they are still very good. I am also used “nonautoexposure” custom hdr.

      • BackMarker

        looks good!

    • Gulyás Tamás

      Yep. rF2 is big dissapointment. This Honda is basically good but … FF is bad, graphycs is bad, physics is acceptable. Only the sound of the car is good.

      I expected much better ! Tracks graphycs still is very outdated in rF2 ( equal with rF1 ). AC or iR is MUCH better in every aspect.
      I bought rF2 in first day but big dissapointment : graphycs outdated, length of development, reinstall the game is VERY complicated, acceptable, but not good physics, bad FF with G27 and so on …

      • GutZ

        I think all that “rF2 is big dissapointment” type of coments and the constant comparisson to other sims on rF2 treads is very anoying, we all know it needs work and it will have for sure, im very confident that ISI will correct the issues along the time, what i realised is that seems those so called state of the art sims had a good fame built by all the bashing on rF2!

      • Gulyás Tamás

        Maybe annoying to you but its true.

        rF2 is developed since more than 1 year and still looks like outdated alpha version ( menu is ridiculous, grapf is outdated, 2006-2007 level, ) TO ME.
        I bought this game on the first day, because I expected good sim. I didnt got it.
        Thats it !

      • Kendra Jacobs

        Spend more time driving instead of fantasizing about graphics who cares if its gfx arent the best ever the driving is some of the best. Like the guy above said ac is a mix between pcars and rf2/iracing, and ac is a joke compared to netkar pro.

        You seem to have a love affair with gfx, well when you want to try out real simulations you can always give rf2, ir, gsc and nk pro a shot, but na their gfx arent as pretty so you might as well stay with pcars and assetto right? Lol

      • Anonymous

        Quote Kendra ” who cares if its gfx arent the best” End of Quote

        Yes those was my views a year or so ago, until Pcars showed us it can be done, now we have both Pcars, AC & RRRE showing us that simracers can have good visuals & physics, it’s comments like yours that will be the death of rfactor2, it’s why they are still stuck in limbo with a graphics engine that as a very poor lighting system, because people like you keep going on about not needing visual stunning racing sim’s.
        Yes I’ve seen videos of the new Honda’s cockpit at morning or afternoon, and the cockpit still looks dark, its no wonder the developers screen shots of the cockpits are not shown.

      • Guest

        It is too dark, like, I’ll give yer that. The new centre cockpit camera view is decent though.

      • Jaimy Mewe

        Those same real simulations where cars on slicks with wings have less grip at 80 mp/h then my street citroen berlingo in the wet? Amazing! I`ll go play those unneutered sims right now! Let me warp back to 2005 where everyone thought that was hyper realistic!

      • Anonymous

        hahahaha nice one. +1

      • Guest

        You’re so kickass dude.

      • Kendra Jacobs

        If you think even on a 2005 sim a car with wings and slicks has less grip than your citreon berlingo in the wet then you must sooooo bad at judging speed, grip and balance. That is one of the most unbelievely inaccurate posts ive read ij my life. You are pulling more g than you think in game and less than you think in real life probably. Like that was one of the worst posts of all time.

        They arent perfect, neither are new sims but they are always improving and improving and atleast they dont neuter their physics to feel comfortable and stale, but instead focus on uncompromised accuracy as best as they can and they keep improving more and more over the years without ever massaging and neutering things for the sake of the player, that is a real sim.

      • Jaimy Mewe

        Oh for God’s sake Kendra, get a life. Move on, jezus…
        You’re like one of those old tape recorders stuck on repeat…

      • Guest

        Sez you. Stop yer phucking whining you pleb

      • Anonymous

        Yes and also dunno why we can’t play our preferred car on our preferred track… rf2 still be an epic fail if they will not change alot of things.

      • Anonymous

        You can drive any car you have in RF2 on any track in you have.

      • Anonymous

        then i need to do something else to drive any in any example the honda @ laguna seca.

      • Anonymous

        When you choose which series to race, select “ALL TRACKS AND CARS”, then you can pick track and car of your choice.

      • Anonymous

        ok all tracks and cars is enabled when i see only one image instead of all other cars.
        now it’s ok very slow but ok.
        thx

      • Miroslav Davidovic

        Choose the list view instead the spinner, much faster.

      • Manuel Riger

        The honda is the best graphyc car in rf 2 who can u say its bad ? :D and the ff is not but u just dont understand it. To call AC is much better in every aspect is a joke. rf 2 goes the way of a hardcore sim and ac is a mix between rf 2 and project cars.

      • Gulyás Tamás

        Do you drive both games ? rF2 and AC too ?
        Because if so, I can not tell you anything.
        IMHO AC and even more iR is MUCH better sims …
        Ps: AC has the best tire modell sim I’ve ever drove …

      • Kendra Jacobs

        Ac is better in some areas but absolute junk in other areas man come on ac is a massaged sim, physics massaged to always help the player recover or not get into too big trouble. Its not a real sim. Please dont say crap like ac tiremodel is the best, even netkar pro tire model kills ac tiremodel

      • Jaimy Mewe

        AC tire model is the best. Now what? You mad now?

      • Kendra Jacobs

        HahAha it cant be the best if even netkar pros tire model is wayyy better and i feel alot of things the same in the way rfactor 2 loads its tires with netkar pro. Ac is only good because they are the best at letting you feel wgat the car is doing so that you do a better job of driving the car but if you look what the car is doing instead of what you are feeling then youll see what i mean, but its hard to see and hard to really open your mind and eyes when the game makes everything feel good.

      • Guest

        I don`t drive a car with my eyes.

      • Jaimy Mewe

        Lol wut? Isn`t that the purpose of having good FFB and overall car feeling? To make you drive the car better? Maybe it`s time to sell that xbox controller, get a job and buy a decent wheel so you don`t have to drive it with your eyes only..

      • Kendra Jacobs

        Regardless of how awesome or junky physics are, having a good ffb connection to the physics will help you feel spins and grip better ya but that doesnt mean the physics are better though. dont confuse ffb and physics, terrible way to judge a, physics. ffb makes you percieve that the physics might be really bad or really good just because you dont like or you really like the ffb, thats doesnt tell you the whole story about physics. Its a blinding mistake to judge physics based on how good or bad the ffb is.

      • speed1

        Nice to see, you learned from me, because we are not clairvoyants ;)

      • Manuel Riger

        No i don t have AC is just say it for fun ? ……… i have a 1500 euro wheel setup and search for the best simulator. I take the gt 3 z4 in AC and give full throttle in a corner this is impossible. Since if fixed rf 2 with 900 degree steering it is godlike. I never Playped iracing because i i want ai and lan and not online only. But its a rf 2 post and ppl who say AC is better on are car release from isi has some Problems.

      • Guest

        ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

      • Jorge Araujo

        The best looking car of rF2, and yet it looks like something coming out from 2005. AC isn’t anything like rF2 or pCars, it’s a full fledged sim in its own right. Only those who haven’t played it say crap like that. And to be true, pCars is way better than rF2 at this point. Even the physics are catching up. And FFB is way better.

      • Kendra Jacobs

        Some rf2 track have huge rez textures and it can look real sexy. its hard to get the right combination of custom hdr profile and day of time if you look at some developer mode custom gfx screens you can see some huge beauty in rf2 gfx engine.

        ac isnt a full fledged sim like you say its a partway fledged sim with massaged physics to help the player not get into too big trouble.

        How is pcars way better if its physicas arent as good that makes no sense? Well maybe if fancy gfx factors into driving for you, but tell that to f1 drivers who still use rfactor 1 gfx. I think you want more game than sim, if so then rf2 isnt for u

      • Guest
  • Slawek

    Very nice car for driving but online game still looks very bad, the other cars on the track looks like bricks sliding on ice, no suspension travel or any natural movements at all. I hope ISI will sort this out.

    • Gulyás Tamás

      I feel the same : “looks like bricks sliding on ice”

      • Kendra Jacobs

        Yes it pisses me off too, visual representation of physics in rf2 are really really bad!!!!!

        Thank god the actual physics are top notch, but we want to see it better ISI come on!

  • Chris Wright

    Really nice to drive and looks great. I took a look in my rF2 garage last night and realised what a good selection of car types it now offers. I still think ISI could vastly improve the accessibility, but this title starts 2014 very strongly. Looking forward to the Indy cars and track and, hopefully, some kind of road map as to what’s in store this year.

    • Gulyás Tamás

      Maybe I tried on a bad track ( Lime Rock ) but it was brick on the ice feeling. I expected much better, like BMW E30 Group A in AC. That’s fantastic car.

      This is an average car to me ( the engine sound is good ) …
      How do you feel ?

      • Chris Wright

        Like all rF2 cars, it’s not optimized for any track and needs a good set up to give of its best. That’s also not helped by how slippery the tracks are until some rubber gets laid down. I think ISI needs to think about this and the effect it has on newcomers. A few good setups with each car might help, although that still doesn’t suit all driving styles etc.

  • Philip Antonia

    Well I haven’t played rF2 for ages and still my poor system performance and visuals are disappointing, but I’m suitably impressed with the physics feel etc now :-).

    The Honda is very enjoyable to drive and I actually for the first time properly appreciated the feel of the tyres and track gradually coming to you.

    I still find it hard to fully enjoy rF2, but this is more down to system performance etc, but at least now I can see the potential it holds :-).

  • Kendra Jacobs

    Now this is a sim car!!! Raw, addicting, such dynamic driving sensations. Drive right and the car grips and behaves beautifully, drive wrong and the car tells you, its so deep and dynamic physics wise, the way you can grip grip grip and use little slides throughout the corner when you go in a little too hard, and nothing feels arcadey or simcadey or whatever, it just feels like driving an actual uncompromising physics system made as deep and accurate as the devs can without compromising physics and tire model to help players.

    A real sim!!!

    • Jaimy Mewe

      You just can`t post one comment without slagging of other sims can`t you? This comment could be made without throwing mud at AC ( because that`s what you mean with your “The physics aren’t massaged and neutered like some other self claiming sims”) but no, you choose to again slate other sims because they don`t fit into your idea of a sim. You need help buddy. You are truly the definition of a fanboy and most probably the most pathetic person i`ve come across VR in the last couple of years. Congratulations…

      • Anonymous

        Single Handley has this person ( Kendra )put me off purchasing rfactor2, with all the mud throwing, name calling, and general putting down of AC, Pcars, Kunos & SMS, with all the negative coming from this one person, again I ask, did you actually purchase AC, because if they did why all the dirt throwing..
        I’ve tried the rfactor 2 demo the latest build & I still haven’t made a purchase, make up your own minds as to why.

      • BackMarker

        signed

        it is fine to have a favorite game, but to constantly bash other games is childish and ineffective. i need to see if i can block kerdra’s post here at VR and Bsim.

      • Kendra Jacobs

        Im not bashing!!!

        I paid for and own the game and i am expressing my thoughts and frustrations with its physics, which is the only reason i bought the game.

      • Jaimy Mewe

        We know your frustrations by now, most can probably dream them, Go post on the AC forums then and move on with your life. Get a grip son…

      • Clutch Norris

        Give her a break.

      • Kendra Jacobs

        Because of me? lol I think you need to get away from these forums for a bit if a persons negative attitude towards one game makes you not want to buy the same game he likes just for the simple fact that he likes that game. I mean don’t worry about me, do your own thing. You’re not spiting me by not buying the game, if I was the owner of the game then id understand, but i have no affiliation to ISI, or Piboso, or iracing, or rbr guy euro pittulainen or something like that.

        Nk pro is one of my faves so i like kunos, i just dont like all the massaging and compromising they put in ac’s physics.

      • Anonymous

        No not just because of you, but you’ve added to it with your war against other developers that are not ISI.

        And have a nice New Year, I’ve no time to read your crap, you make this great site look untidy.

        P.s I don’t care what you like or what you don’t like.

      • Kendra Jacobs

        I am not at war with any developer that isnt ISI, as I love kunos’s nk pro
        piboso’s world racing series and kart racing pro
        the guys behind iracing
        euro pitulainen’s richard burns rally
        the guys behind live for speed

        Quite a few devs and game engines there

      • Realkman666

        There are many reasons not to want rF2, but a pathetic loser like Kendra isn’t one of them.

      • Kendra Jacobs

        I’m a pathetic loser? What does that make you, the guy who posts on a simracing site just to call someone else a pathetic loser? A real man?

      • Realkman666

        A big meanie.

      • Kendra Jacobs

        Fanboy? Lets see I love richard burns rally, rfactor 2 and 1 including gsc, iracing, netkar pro, piboso’s kart racing pro and piboso’s world racing series and lfs if s3 ever comes out lols.

        Im not a fanboy all those sims have their own issues but they all have 1 thing in common and thats that i never experienced a single second that felt arcadey, or simcadey, or massaged, or neutered, or compromised for the sake of making things more comfortable or easier. Never for a split second in any of those sims, and that is why i respect and play them all because they all are trying to be as 100% uncompromising physics as they can be.

        So fanboy is all wrong, maybe hater is a better word due to my hate of massaged and neutered, compromised for the sake of the player, physics.

        Good day and Happy New Year, im off with my gf and family, then later will be racing some real sims.

        I hope you have fun though fun is more important than hardcore realism to most.

      • Jaimy Mewe

        I doubt you have any fun in your life. You`re way to busy posting hate about AC on VR.

      • Smithaz

        I agree with what you’re saying, it is not about bashing other sims, it is about bashing over-easy physics. rF2 physics are a real challenge, they are completely dynamic responding to you every input, be it pedals or steering.

      • Kendra Jacobs

        Yes exacfly exactly exactly exactly, thank you. You worded it perfectly, its not about bashing a particular sim.

      • Kendra Jacobs

        I deleted that part just for you. You’re welcome. Enjoy your day.

      • Miroslav Davidovic

        Geeez man one can’t even say a good word about rF2 without the AC defenders all over the place. He didn’t even mention another game by name so it could be every sim/game in the world ever released.

        Just imagine every rF2 fan all over the place if somebody says something bad about rF2 in any thread. That would end up with about 1000 more comments/war in a week.

        The guy is just posting his opinion and it’s actually you and some other guys which are constantly offending him and being very harsh to him just because he has a different opinion.

        Lately he is not offending anybody here. But people have a go at him massively and even the mod here is not objective at all.

        And even if he mentions AC so what, just let him. It’s his opinion.
        You have about 100x more people which bitch about rF2 constantly in every freakin thread, why don’t you jump on them?
        They post even complete clueless nonsense most of the time and are really not choosing their words wisely.
        Stuff like coffin, crap, shat, ugly and even worse are on the day order here if it is about rF2.

      • Jaimy Mewe

        I don`t know how long you`ve been around and what threads you`ve been reading, but the sole purpose in Kendra`s life is to bash AC in every thread possible. Whether it`s a thread about KRP, iRacing, hell probably even a thread about some modded trees for RF2 he will be there bashing AC with the most idiotic reasons and arguments there are. I`m not defending any game, i own all of the sims and i have my preferences,. But i`m not going online trying to convince other people like some sim extremist. For your info, he deleted the part about bashing AC because he already had a ban for trolling and flaming and he`s scared to get another.

      • Miroslav Davidovic

        Why do you consider his reasons as idiotic?
        It’s his subjective opinion, nothing more, nothing less.
        It’s maybe idiotic in your opinion but that’s also subjective.
        There are enough people which agree with him in many ways but nobody says anything as it is just not worth it to start a war over and over again. At the end a normal discussion is not possible these days over here. Well in it is but that’s not often the case, I guess we agree there.

        I could also say it’s your reasons which are “most idiotic reasons and arguments there are”, no? But why should I?
        It’s not a talk about facts, it’s subjective right?

        Or are you the guy who knows the finale truth about the universe and pink ponies? I guess not so to each his own, no?

      • Jaimy Mewe

        You`re absolutely right. It`s an opinion. But there is a difference between discussing opinions and just blatently bashing a game just because it doesn`t meet your ideas. He`s been calling other people inferior because they are not as “hardcore” as them because they are too simple to understand the difference between a “real” sim and a neutered one as he calls it. There aren`t many people who agree with him here on VR, just count the up and downvotes on his posts and read the comments on his “opinions” I`m more then happy to engane in a normal discussion, but a discussion soon ends when one party is blinded and not open to other opinions…

      • Miroslav Davidovic

        “But there is a difference between discussing opinions and just blatently bashing a game just because it doesn`t meet your ideas. ”

        Just take look at this thread.

        Let’s just leave it here now. I don’t know what else to say lol. HNY man.

      • Keith Horner Jr

        He? Isn’t Kendra a girls name? I’ve been trying to figure out if he or she is a girl or a guy from his or hers first post.

      • Guest

        Kendra is no worse than the rFactor2 haters like Tamas, Araujo , Pastor Ted and the likes. Think you are taking t’internet a bit too seriously, meself, like! :-)

      • Jaimy Mewe

        They can all get a permaban for all i care :P

      • Guest

        They can ban me from here for all I care as well. At least I’d be spared from reading the utter drivel from some of the spanners who regularly post their crap on here. :-)

      • Gulyás Tamás

        I’m NOT rF2 haters :DDD
        I GOT this game. I paid for it on the first day !
        I’m just disappointed not to got what I expected … thats a difference …

    • Realkman666

      How can you call it simcade?

      • Kendra Jacobs

        I didnt, read again

      • Realkman666

        It’s still there.

    • Gulyás Tamás

      Drive RUF RT 12R Track Car in iR.
      THAT’S a real sim car !!!
      It’s fantastic !!!

  • wajdi nujeidat

    OH MY God! I entered here and I saw 86 comments and I thought, well let’s see what the people thinks about this car and sadly 50 comments were simply a personal war!
    However, firstly i didn’t like the ffb of this car, but after working in the setup and I increased the ffb to 110% now the car feels very good and I have already 2-3 great online races( this car suites perfectly at Mid-ohio)!

    Thanks to both, ISI and Kunos for giving us these 2 great simulatores!

    • Smithaz

      I drove 10 laps this morning, I think it will take a bit more to get a proper feel for the car. It drives very different to RWD cars that I’m used to and even very different to the Clio. The car is bloody challenging with it’s lift off oversteer and torque steering, it certainly is an interesting drive. Hopefully it re-invigorates online racing, the Clios made for some excellent fun, really close races when they were in fashion.

      • wajdi nujeidat

        Yes, people likes this category of cars, not much power and FWD like the Clio and the Civic! agree with you about the online servers and already there are a lot of full servers with the Civic and this is a great news after 3 months of empty servers!

  • Roma Ljubchik

    Hello Haters) Happy New SimRacing Year to all SimRacers)))

    1st time ever drove FWD car, and i felt in love at it) It`s very very very good)) And i like AI to behave live a real Touring Car driver)

    http://i.imgur.com/xIoGlWt.jpg

    in total it feels real, like my friend’s mazda3 mps on slippery surface))

    …My rF2 licence expires on June, hopefully ISI will introduce final version, to fight with new contenders

    • Smithaz

      They won’t release a final version, they will keep updating until they move on. I personally would like to see the User Interface being updated bringing more info in multiplayer and easier to use menus etc. I’m sure they will continue updating physics and graphics at their own pace irrespective of outside noise.

    • Gulyás Tamás

      The picture shows us above, rF2 graphics are really ugly ( level 2005 )
      I know, graphics are not everything, but ……..
      I say so, I got/play every related sim : R3E, iR, rF2, AC, Race 07, pCars ( not sim yet :) )
      rF was revolutionary in 2005 ! This is just annoying to me…

      • Guest

        YAWN….. Good I’m glad an ugly 3rd party modded track annoys you. Now bugger off and go and bore some other poor blerts.

      • Roma Ljubchik

        And more, it could be cnverted from rf1))

      • Roma Ljubchik

        wow graphic!!! Did you ask what pc i’m using, and track? On your list of so cold sims only two can be named as such, R3E Race 07 pCars is all arcade and AC doesn’t know it self what it is! iR is good and rF2 is stil WIP!! If you look at first bild of rF2 and what we have now, you’ll see the difference.

      • Dean Doucette

        You could never find a bigger fan of Rfactor than myself. As a result, I watched with eager anticipation the development of Rfactor 2. I watched every You Tube video and read everyone’s impression. I tried two versions of the demo and was disappointed, especially with the graphics. I thought maybe the full game would be better so I tried that. I even downloaded the tracks and cars that fans said performed and looked the best, but I was still disappointed. Don’t get me wrong; I really, really want Rfactor 2 to be a knockout success as Rfactor was and is, but it is way too early in development for the game to be enjoyable for me. I wish ISI every success and I will continue to follow their development via You Tube videos. Until then, I will continue my racing experience with GTR2, Assetto Corsa, and Raceroom Race Experience. For me, GTR2 is the only sim experience that offers AI racing and multiplayer that is enjoyable. I have high hopes for Race Room Race Experience. Maybe someday, we will hear more definitive news about GTR3.

      • Anonymous

        Quote: “You could never find a bigger fan of rfactor than myself” “I watched every You Tube video and read everyone’s impression.”I tried two versions of the demo and was disappointed” “but it is way too early in development for the game to be enjoyable for
        me. I wish ISI every success and I will continue to follow their development” End Of Quotes.

        I agree with you one hundred percent, I hope they refine the graphic engine & bring it up to date to compete with the other sims, right now I just think the lighting as got to be one of the poorest lighting I’ve seen in any sim, even race 07 by simbin looks better, yes graphics are everything in a modern day racing simulator.

      • Kendra Jacobs

        If you’re the biggest fan of rfactor 1 then the simple joy of driving rf2 cars around a track should lead you to buy it, i’m pretty sure you werent even close to a big rfactor 1 fan if you dont like its successor enough to buy it even thoug its way better in physics and ffb.

      • Kendra Jacobs

        If you’re the biggest fan of rfactor 1 then the simple joy of driving rf2 cars around a track should lead you to buy it, i’m pretty sure you werent even close to a big rfactor 1 fan if you dont even like its successor enough to buy it even though its way better in physics and ffb than the first one.

      • Dean Doucette

        Kendra, I stand by what I said. I tried every mod and track I could get my hands on when I played Rfactor. I played the heck out of that game. You can say whatever you want to attempt to discredit my opinion, but at the end of the day, it’s still my opinion. Accept it or refute it, makes no difference to me, but those that know me know I have invested thousands of hours into tweaking set-ups, studying my laps results on Motec in GTR2 to try and eke out another second out of a lap, and following the development of every racing sim I can get my hands on. When Rfactor2 reaches maturity, I will be the first to embrace it. However, I requested and received a refund for Rfactor2 because it’s still too far from where it should be. I hope that by next year Rfactor will be able to stand tall beside other racing sims. I really do.

      • Anonymous

        Stop that rubbish saying graphics are not everything, we are living in a age where most people should have a 1GB video card DirectX 10 the minimum, Graphics are everything in a sim, we are not living in 2004 where you could use that excuse, Slightly Mad Studio was the first to use high end graphics in a racing sim, Kunos saw the light & done the same, even though iRacing is directX 9, it still looks better than all the Gmotor2 based sims.
        so please stop saying that.

        Graphics are important & Graphics ARE everything in a sim.

  • Mario Strada

    I suck at FWD cars and I am not in love with this car at all. Too bad because everything else is fine. It’s very well done and it seems to reproduce FWD physics pretty accurately. But I just cannot get into it at all. Instead of racing the track, I find myself racing my own car.

    Incidentally, I have the exact same issue with the KIA on iRacing., but not with the Race07 FWD cars for some reason. Maybe because simbin made the driving a bit less edgy?

    Anyway, I am glad this car came out because a lot of people were waiting for it and if I ever get familiar with the driving technique, I may race it too, but for now, I’ll go back to the Nissans and the vette.

    EDIT: Well, I was wrong. The problem I had was not FWD as much as an inverted FFB. No wonder the wheel seemed to have a mind of its own.

    Once I reversed the FFB it was a lot better to drive. The only issues I had with it were:

    1) Soft tires too sticky on some corners at Mid Ohio. The car rolls over without much of a warning. It happens with the Med. tires as well, but less. I pretty much stiffened the hell out of the rear but it still happened at times.

    2) The AI at Mid Ohio seems to be a bit too weak. I was a second faster in quali using the exact same setup at 120% and I left a lot of time on track. Doesn’t seem right, but it may be the track.

    3) When racing close behind the other cars, they often went blank and got painted in front of my eyes. A bit distracting and the underbody shadow seems even more sketchy than with the other cars.

    Other than that, much better than my first evaluation.

  • Kev

    OK, after more time and several races, I have to say that I am stunned at how ISI nailed this car. I drive a very similar car and the feel and physics of this car is almost spooky. I have to admit that I was somewhat skeptical regarding the Civic as it is a car very different from cars released so far but wow did ISI ever nail it. Even the torque steer is just brilliant. One thing I will recommend for this car is to drive it offline first against a suitable AI strength and work your way up before jumping online with this puppy, at least / especially if you are the ultra competitive type as you WILL get spanked by fwd specialists online and will almost surely overdrive the daylights out of the car and fail to understand the subtleties and there are many because this vehicle has incredibly deep physics and ffb detail. In my mind, there is nothing ISI can’t do ATM.

    • Kendra Jacobs

      Yup i agree

  • Mark

    I want to like rFactor 2 but the performace on my system is abysmal. I can run triple screen iRacing, AC, GSC with most graphics options on high and get consistent FPS averaging over 60. With rFactor 2 I turn most graphics options to low and get FPS averaging around 40. Running down the pit straight on my own at Silverstone it stutters around an FPS of 15. :-(

    • http://zerez86.blogspot.com/ zerez86

      You have an amd/ati card i guess…I get constant 60fps (vsync on) with a gtx 660 (amd fx 6300, 8 gb ram)

      • Mark

        Yes, I have a 6970.

      • Realkman666

        The ATI curse! :/

      • Anonymous

        7950 runs strong though….

      • Realkman666

        I was thinking that or 7850, but so many people say the drivers are never updated, even ISI staff.

      • Anonymous

        I don’t drive rf2 extensively, so maybe bite the bullet and go Nvidia….

      • Realkman666

        I have nothing against Nvidia, I was just thinking of going all AMD, but now I don’t know.

      • Anonymous

        Intel Inside FTW!!
        AMD GPU’s are great value and powerful when the game is compliant, but if Nvidia favours rf2, you’re better off with Nvidia ….

      • Kev

        I had a 5900 series and upgraded to gtx 760

        Understandin that upgrading involves expense the payback is worth it if possible to skip a few beers

        Also be sure to disable crossfire if you card has multiple gpus

  • Anonymous

    Wow, this car is definitly one of rF2′s best!
    The first time I drove that car I was very disappointed, the FFB was just total crap. The reason was that I put Car specific FFB on 0.7. (Normally, this is a pretty good setting for most of rF2′s cars) Now I turned the Car specific FFB up to 1.2 and now it feels so awesome!

    Lime Rock, Metro Park or Mores, 20 laps in training and Qualifying with 15 AI’s to get enough rubber on the track and this car with warm tires, just godlike! :D

    I wish that ISI does more “weaker” FWD cars, this is IMO what they really can do. If it comes to strong RWD racers, I have to say I prefer AC. Therfore, rFactors Clio, Megane and now the Civic are probably the most joyful Simcars I’ve driven so far!

    Also, I’d love to see how ISI would handle AWD cars, like a Subaru Impreza or a Mitsubishi Evo at a Hillclimb track. I guess this would be fun too :D

    Now some words to the Graphics of rFactor 2:
    I do not complain about its graphics. They are acceptable, definitly not good or up-to-date. But, dear ISI, it’s unacceptable that I can run AC, DiRT 3 and pCARS on high settings, while rFactor 2 stutters and freezes even on medium to low settings! Please, try to optimize this piece of software a bit! If I have a game, that looks like from 2005, I want at least that it runs smoothly on my 2013 system!

    Otherwise a very promising start into 2014 for rFactor 2!

    Little Update concerning the Honda:
    AI seems a bit weak? With same AI strengh where I’d normally go for Position ~ 5 I’m now up to 3 sec faster than the AI.

    • Clutch Norris

      Meganes are RWD, not FWD. Actually they have nothing in common with the street car apart the shape and name.

      • Anonymous

        I know they are, I just named them with the FWD’s because in my opinion, the Meganes are very nice to drive as well :)

      • Clutch Norris

        Alrighty.

    • GamerMuscle

      I need to try some different FFB settings , I like how the car handles in general but the FFB just gave me nothing of use , would have been better driving with the FFB off !

      Mind you I always found with ISI games its easer and faster to drive from what the car is doing visually than to drive from feel.

      • Smithaz

        Have you given enough time to get a feel for the game and car. I thought the same after doing ten laps, but I know that feel will grow with a lot more time.

    • addyduss

      Its not graphics, rather physics calculations take a lot of resources (tire model alone is very complex). Thats also explains why you can drive all games you mentioned at high fps :)

      • Anonymous

        Yes, probably you’re right. But still, the game needs optimization. I have a good rig, not High End, but still pretty good and I know a few cases from forums etc. where people have same problems. Also, I think overall stability is quite bad, I experience a lot of freezes and crashes.
        Probably its because of my nVidia card? I’ve read several articals where people say rFactor2 engine runs better with ATI cards?
        We’ll see… :)

      • Smithaz

        Sorry I think you have it mixed up, rF2 runs better on nvidia cards and ATI cards struggle. I have a gtx670 and get solid 120fps, just for reference.

    • Realkman666

      If ISI decided to rework the FFB or grip of their existing cars to match the best ones, they could make a killing. Also, the AI is weak.

  • GamerMuscle

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OarnuxyytOI

    Seems like a good RF2 car ,the FFB however does not communicate anything of use with default settings on a G25.

    I’m going to try the car again after fiddling with the FFB but its annoying how RF2 is like RF1 in that you have to mess around with every single car just to get things feeling right on a basic level !

    • Anonymous

      Maybe try to raise the car specific FFB! Look at the post beneath you, I had the same impression as you with the Honda first, but with a little tweaking it feels really good!

      • GamerMuscle

        Yep will give it ago !

        I find in general though RF2 seems to just lack subtle depth in conveying tire loading with the FFB , The skippy has good FFB , 1960s cars also seem to have good FFB and the Megan trophy has fairly good practical FFB.

        But then you get cars like the F2 , cleo cup and this honda , that really don’t seem right to me.

        Maybe if I had a servo wheel they might feel better but it just seems like the FFB is all over the place resisting when I want to correct and just doing strange things.

        A real world FWD car will obviously have its own self aligning torque characteristics and interesting feel from when the wheels lose grip when on the power which obviously feels different to a RWD car but to me with my stone age g25 RF2 just seems weird with some cars especially FWD ones.

        I think I prefer the FFB in NKP’s Abarth and the FWD cars in GTRE.

        I do like how this Honda is very poky in how it drives ! I certainly believe that’s how the real car would handle

      • speed1

        All in order there, you only have the wrong perception.
        Real vehicles with front-wheel drive do not feel as it is for you ?

        Maybe you should reappraise your experience and memorables.

        It’s true that one has no steering when accelerating in the reality or not, particularly in front-wheel drive with front engine where there is no weight on the front axle, especially by lateral acceleration when the outer wheel is fully loaded as part of the total forces of Fy at maximum load and grip.

        I’ve never seen such a steering in any high torque front drive car.

  • AL_D

    RF2 is the biggest dissapointment in the sim scene! and this car shows it even more, that RF2 is a dead game, never be reaching the status 1.0! Btw. the tranny sounds are outdated since 2007, why the hell are they still using them? This is so poor!

    • Hanzales

      Come on! Dead?
      Last weeks I’m racing almost only AC. Sometimes R3E for the great sounds. But yesterday I have reinstalled RF2 from scratch (downloaded last installer) then tried URD T5 Bayro at Sebring with 16 opponents and I must say it was the best race experience (with AI) ever! (at least since AC introduce AI as well ;P) So my impressions yesterday was “RF2 is back and very alive” instead of “it’s dead”. I’m sure plenty of mods will appear on both (RF2 / AC) and will make both titles even more interesting. Also RF2 is the only sim out there next to AC with great FFB. Maybe GSC too (don’t own it yet, just tried the demo) and iRacing, but AC and RF2 with good car are simply the best. I’m waiting mainly for HistorX mod and Targa Florio. When this comes out, I am sure I will spent all of my time only in AC and RF2 (50/50) ;o)

      • Justin Schmidt

        hope that there is a next version of historx. not sure it will happen with simbins new conversion policy.

      • Realkman666

        The age of conversions is over. Quality is the future.

    • e14ff6d1@opayq.com

      RF2 is a dead game is it.
      I disagree, like!
      I agree that it probably wont reach the heights of the first one but it still drives good and looks good if you download and install the right stuff instead of some of the hastily cobbled together rubbish 3rd party mods that have so far blighted the sims reputation.
      Lets hope AC isn’t plagued with loads of crap quality conversions from other sims like rF2 has been.

      • Kev

        How is it a plague? No one is forcing you to use lesser tracks, are they?

      • e14ff6d1@opayq.com

        Like it or not, there are a ton of converted rf2 tracks out there that are simply not worthy of the sim and people who are happy to install and keep such sub standard crap are doing the sim no favours.The good rf2 mods are fantastic, the bad ones are piss poor and are the things that are giving the haters the ammo that they always use to bash rf2.

      • Realkman666

        People converting terrible tracks that were already bad in 2006 for rFactor 2 are making rF2 look like an outdated ridiculous mess. No wonder people glee at AC and pCars.

    • Gulyás Tamás

      Agreed …

    • Kendra Jacobs

      One of the best physics in the scene is a disapointment? That makes no sense at all.

      • Keith Horner Jr

        That’s a little bit (actually alot) of an exageration, but everyone is entitled to there own opinion. The physics are okay at best when at speed but the low speed physics leave alot to be desired. Especially on a green track.

      • Anonymous

        the best physics, sure, in your alternate reality where roads are made of ice, and tyres are made of sand.

        oh no sorry, i mean, only superheroes can drive racing cars. Its not like theres only 0.000001% of the population that can afford to do it (sarcasm).

    • Noel Hibbard

      Seriously, this tranny noise is silly. They need to stop modeling 2007 transmissions and move into the future. Every year a new transmission comes out and they sound entirely different yet ISI sticks with the sounds that transmissions made in 2005. The sound would be sooooo much better if they switched to DirectX14 too. (Sarcasm)

  • Justin Schmidt

    feels pretty good but also bad for me. it feels really nice on the simsteering but not on the office rig with g27. it’s good that this generation of sim takes the ffb directly from the simulated steering-rack. sadly, lower priced wheels cant really provide the necessary forces to take use of that. their simply not made for this. imo, isi should provide some canned effects options like in assetto corsa. the physics of the car are top notch. the hardware just cant cope with the sim as it is now.

    • RobertH

      I’m in the market for a new wheel, which wheel would you recommend?
      I’m tossed between Fanatec and Thrustmaster.

      • Justin Schmidt

        i cant really help you with that. i jumped from the g27 straight to the simsteering. but i heard (don’t quote me on that) that the thrustmaster has stronger ffb than the fanatecs which would give ffb fidelity in a broader range. theres probably some torque figures available somewhere on the net. i would search for these figures and pick the stronger one.

      • Smithaz

        I have a friend who went from a Fanatec CSR Elite to a T500 after the motors burned out a second time and his feeling seems to agree with you, that the T500 has a broader range of ffb force. I would recommend Fanatec’s Clubsport pedals though.

      • http://www.entropyxel.com/ Tuttle

        Well, if you have the budget for a complete wheel, unit and pedalboard…then go for the Fanatec but AFAIK there is not a big difference in terms of unit FFB feelings. Honestly I think the price difference is too high for the Fanatec, but for sure it’s a piece of art in terms of materials and features.

        If you go for the T500RS make sure you’re buying the new version, with the new fan and the top cover without the fan holes. It is working better and the fan issue has gone.

        Cheers.

      • Kendra Jacobs

        Are you talking about the TX for the xbox one? Because i have a brand new revision of the t500 it is from all the new stock that finally came back in stock in summer after being sold out everywhere for a good 6 months and the wheel is labeled V6 but it also has the holes and loud fan yet it doesnt seem to have the overheating problems or the pcb dying problems that older models had

      • http://www.entropyxel.com/ Tuttle

        The V is just a region code, doens’t mean anything in terms of wheel hardware. The wheel is not a TX, its a T500RS. :)

      • Kendra Jacobs

        Nope the region code thing is what was originally thuht a long time ago but its not. The v4 and v5 pedals have a different spring type design as the v1 and v2 version broke on a lot of people. V4 and v5 pedals got the updated compression type springs, while v1 and v2 had torsion springs, not sure about v3.

        Straight from Thrustmaster (translated):
        “The pedal has been slightly modified to simplify the mounting of it.

        The new version (V3, V4 or V5 ?) use compression springs unlike the old version with torsion springs.

        The old version can only use the “torsion type springs”.
        The new version can only use the “compression type springs”

        Some people reported the old springs on v3 and some the new style on v3, but everyone on v4 and v5 has the new style. I’m guessing the new base versions have improvements too as the pcb failing problem seems to have gone away, but mine still has holes, but never seems like its overheating.

        Do you have a link for the new sttle wheelbase?

      • http://www.entropyxel.com/ Tuttle

        The region code is a info by Thrustmaster so I don’t know what to say about that.

        The new wheel is the one with the new box (the blue one with the GT6 logo) but I received my new one in the old box (GT5), with the fan (bigger) in front of the motor and the top fan vent with closed holes . In my version the V code is also missing. There are not official informations about the fan changes and the top cover without holes but if you get the blue box I’m pretty sure you’ll get the new one.

        You can find tons of informations about that here; http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/the-thrustmaster-t500rs-thread.135961/page-274

        Cheers.

      • Manuel Riger

        fanactec clubsportswheel with bmw rim and clubsports padels is the best u can get :>

      • Anonymous

        Neither.

        the CSW with BMW rim has a very sluggish response time. Go and google the skeijmel tests that he performed on all the wheels.

        Yes the CSW base is powerful, but what hampers ALL the belt driven wheels is its standing resistance, which makes it slow to respond to oscillations in ffb direction. This is a fact, as proven by the graphs. It simply means you cannot correct slides as quickly as you can with a g25 or g27.

        As a bi product, this also makes it unrealistic, because in reality the wheel can oscillate at very high frequencies

        I am fed up of people spreading this total myth that the CSW or Thrustmaster wheels are best – it is total nonsense. Yes they may give more powerful ffb effects, but that is countered by their sluggishness, which is a fact of belt driven wheels.

        Only the CSW with the F1 rim matches the g25/g27 for response time. The BMW rim is much heavier which is why it doesnt perform as well.

        On top of actually being worse, the fanatec products are hugely pricey, and it would cost 50 or 70 euros or something to return it back if you have a problem. Logitechs customer support is 2nd to none and they organise delivery for you.

        Trust me, go get yourself a g27, and fanatec clubsport pedals (their pedals ARE good) and you won’t be missing out. The money that you’ve saved from not buying a CSW, put that towards 3 monitors and a decent graphics card, which will transform your sim experience.
        You can also mod the g25/g27 with simulaje’s JZ quick release system, which allows you to attach custom bespoke wheels.

        or you can go with the mob and waste your money on a fanatec wheel. up to you.

    • wajdi nujeidat

      mmmmm. I have the G27 modded and I find the ffb perfect! best ca in rf2 for me!

      • Justin Schmidt

        mines not modded.

    • Kev

      Sorry but that is just ridiculous.

      • Justin Schmidt

        no it’s not. but i think the best car to point this out with is the formula2. theres only ffb on the g27 when the tires are under maximum load. on the simsteering you can feel ffb even on the straights.

      • Anonymous

        Actually, the Honda isn’t such a bad car, however, I totally agree regarding the G27 and rf2, ie they’re basically incompatible.

    • Anonymous

      so Justin Schmidt…what wheel do you use? Office rig… who plays on a rig at the office…LOL!

      What’s your sim rig?

      • Justin Schmidt

        simsteering + clubsports v2

      • Anonymous

        ok, never heard of Simsteering… 2400 lira = +3900US for a wheel… hoorah! I have clubsport pedals as well, but with fanatec CSR wheel.

  • wajdi nujeidat

    this is simply a great mod! the combo Croft-Civic is one of the best sim-race combo ever!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpPyBtUqDOU

    • Realkman666

      Perhaps with a different field of view.

  • Gulyás Tamás

    New aspect : drove today again and the conclusion was : too easy to drive … I mean, no challenge … comparing to iR cars … IMO

    In iR you make a mistake, you will lose grip easily. Honda can be droven by one hand … TOO EASY > NO CHALLENGE

    • Kev

      Drive online much?

      • Matt Orr

        Yea, drive online, then it can be a “who is where” game. It’s a lot more challenging when a guy can appear out of thin air, warp 6 feet left, then jump forward 50m, only to come back another 10.

        Car still drives the same. Slow guy is going to be slow, fast guy is going to be fast. Doesn’t change it’s ease.

        Point is, doesn’t matter. The car is easy to drive, as it should be. It’s difficult in the right manners, simply keeping on the track is not proper difficulty.

      • Gulyás Tamás

        Yes. In iR.

    • Smithaz

      In what way is it too easy? I think it is a big challenge considering that I am used to the RWD Meganes. The driving technique is very different in the Civic and it is very easy to get the rear sliding with bad technique.

      • Traumahound

        Yyep, what smith said.

    • wajdi nujeidat

      and for that it is called IceRacing!lolllll

    • Hagen Tröger

      you are the alien No.1 and win each race?

    • Rhys Gardiner

      I drive every car on every track in every sim with one hand, as I can’t use my right arm. Does that mean every sim is too easy?

      • Realkman666

        It means you’re simcade.

      • Rhys Gardiner

        I can change the very nature of the games I’m playing. I KNEW my injury gave me special powers!

    • wajdi nujeidat

      I can drive every car in Iracing with one leg!

      • Anonymous

        The middle one?

    • Hany Alsabti

      Try it on the limit and tell me its easy…
      when driven on the limit, this car can be very challenging. Joins us online and show me how good u are with just 1 hand ;)

  • Anonymous

    Hmmm well let me me check here for a second. Ummm I guess I haven’t downloaded it yet I must be slackin.

  • speed1

    Thank you Tim !

    • Realkman666

      oh you

      • speed1

        Yeah, i’m still riding and loughing loud while reading. Listen……may you can hear me.

  • lewismrl

    Although i have been a long time Rfactor user, i have AC, RF2 and pCars on my system so have a neutral view. Can honestly say across all platforms this NGTC civic has given me the most enjoyment and fun in any sim for some time.

    Additionally a colleague had a detailed discussion at the Autosport show last week with Matt Neal who went into length about high details about the technical information Team Dynamics supplied to ISI about the car. In-fact Mr Neal (who just happens to be multiple BTCC champion and one of BTCC’s most experienced drivers said that the RF2 representation was perfectly spot on.

    A great endorsement i feel, possibly not for the haters but then perhaps they should go and do 500 real BTCC races and come back and let us know how unrealistic or easy it really is ;)

  • Kendra Jacobs

    There was nothing in there to get banned from, not even close. It was actually done as a show of respect to you.

  • e14ff6d1@opayq.com

    Deleted

  • Hagen Tröger

    that’s what the haters want and why they will never be happy :)

  • F1Racer

    Read the rules lately ? I suggest you do.

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