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Great news for the Brits, there is still no hint of the game here in the States.

Don’t forget about your loyal pc fans Simbin. The xbox360 is more for first person shooters. Maybe Race Pro will get people hooked. Who knows? I will always prefer the PC and will wait for a Lizard engine game to be released on it.

After more than 20 years of constantly upgrading the PC to keep up with the latest, greatest game, I’ve just about given up on PC games. I suspect the masses are of the same mind. Console games will evolve as did PC games and may be the wave of the future. Something to think about.

No way, RustyMike. You’ll never get the vibrant mod community with consoles that you do for PC racing sims, so you’ll never have anywhere near the depth or variety on consoles that you do PC games.

Plus you’ll never have the kind of aftermarket peripherals market for consoles that you do for PC’s, such as high-quality wheels, pedals, simulators, shifters, etc.

I don’t dispute anything you say Paul, with the possible exception of the peripherals. I’m only talking about the people that will migrate to consoles to avoid constant upgrading. The store shelves tell you what most people are buying.

you have to be rich to play PC games now

As so many people are pirating the PC games I doubt you have to be rich to play them. You just need google…

i meant the computer itself

need a penta-core intel 6 with 12 gigs of ram and a nvidia 10,000hd

That is not true. A decent pc costs less these days than it ever did.

Thats right, you can get decent pc with ~1000euros(Monitor not included). 10 years ago you paid around 2000e and pc’s back then were totally shite compared to nowadays machines.

All of the PC’s with the horsepower to run recent games are way more costly than any of the current consoles and require hardware upgrades more often. The variety of games for consoles also far exceeds what is available for PC’s. I’m not knocking PC’s and don’t want to upset anyone, it’s just my .02 and adjusted for inflation, it’s worth half a penny.

Talking nonsense there rustymike, a Core2Duo E8500 build w/ Radeon 4830 will be somewhere in the $600-$700 range & that will last a couple of years.

Need more GPU power? Then make use of crossfirex

rustymike12, you are right for the cost of the consoles compared to the PC’s. But don’t forget, the consoles are subsidized from the game sales.
So the console games cost on average $60 – $80 against $30 – $50 for the PC games. If a console gamer buys an average of 10 games a year, that’s $100 – $500 more than a PC gamer.
For a 2 year period, which is normal for a PC upgrade, a console gamer will spend $200 – $1000 more, just for games.
So, the things are not that simple as Microsoft or Sony would like the customer to believe.

So true. The only thing the PC needs to be great again is better games and some split screen support. Xbox 360 controllers are compatible with the PC…

I wish you all the best.

Compatible PC is actually no more expensive than consoles already if you take two year old parts ( which are what current consoles are built of) and try to build a PC by yourself. You don’t need to buy a new case, dvd , hdd generally and really don’t need an expensive modern videocard or processor to see that low resolution picture with blurry textures of current console games. And I don’t even tell here about second-hand parts which costs almost nothing.

youre all still rich

consoles are for kids.

rfactormodsdie (no they wont, by the way), you have a strange view on whos rich and not. I guess everybody with a 30+ inch flat screen tv are rich too?

yeees… and if u have a G25 too , then u are multi-millionaire

I have a phone nokia 1100 (added to a super 8 camera) as I am richer than Bill Gates

“So the console games cost on average $60 – $80 against $30 – $50 for the PC games.”

I don’t know where you live and where you buy your games but my favorite shop in Germany sells the most expensive console games at 65 Euros. But these are mostly collectors editions. The average console game costs no more than 55 Euro. The average price for a PC game is about 40-45 Euro.

The console games are a bit more expensive but not that much as you claim. So for 10 games a year the console gamer would spend 100-150 Euro more on games at most. Often the price difference between PC and console are only 5 Euros. But as the most PC gamers just download their games and never buy them the console gamer spends 550 Euro more on 10 games a year…

erale, 40-45 euro for a PC game is too much. You could try this online shops: http://www.shopto.net , http://www.sendit.com – they are shipping to Germany. The PC game prices in these shops are 15GBP – 30GBP.

My point is the consoles are subsidized from the licensing fees publishers pay to Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo. And this reflects in more expensive console games.
Microsoft and Sony are not charity organizations. Their only purpose is profit.

As for pirating games, this could be a reason for the PC game publishers to up the prices.
There is no free launch :) Someone should pay for it.

I mean * lunch * of course

“There is no free lunch :) Someone should pay for it.”

Well the prices are pretty low. But not just on the PC titles ;) Sometimes I order my games in the UK as they often have special offers.

Also the prices differ from publisher to publisher. While EA games sell for no less than 55 Euro there are other publisher who sell their games for about 40 Euro.