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		<title>By: Sensekhmet</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/race-on-review/comment-page-1#comment-30091</link>
		<dc:creator>Sensekhmet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 08:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About the engine... I&#039;ve made some comparison tests between GTR2 Viper CC and GTR-E Viper CC and I&#039;ve noticed that GTR 2 actually looks better. The cockpit in GTR 2 may be a bit blocky but it actually has dynamic shadowing: not NFS: Shift style but it can get &#039;dark&#039; in the cockpit, unlike GTR-E.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About the engine&#8230; I&#8217;ve made some comparison tests between GTR2 Viper CC and GTR-E Viper CC and I&#8217;ve noticed that GTR 2 actually looks better. The cockpit in GTR 2 may be a bit blocky but it actually has dynamic shadowing: not NFS: Shift style but it can get &#8216;dark&#8217; in the cockpit, unlike GTR-E.</p>
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		<title>By: F1_fan_1</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/race-on-review/comment-page-1#comment-30006</link>
		<dc:creator>F1_fan_1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll buy the whole package, since rFactor is the only sim I currently own. 30 euros for Race 07 + STCC + Race On isn&#039;t much, although it would be better if it included GTR Evo as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll buy the whole package, since rFactor is the only sim I currently own. 30 euros for Race 07 + STCC + Race On isn&#8217;t much, although it would be better if it included GTR Evo as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Sensekhmet</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/race-on-review/comment-page-1#comment-29997</link>
		<dc:creator>Sensekhmet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 08:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-29932&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-29932&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ScHiRoCk&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: Why without the helmet view scca? I always play from inside the helmet. Seems more realistic to me, becuas in RL they also wear it.

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They also do in other cars. Call me crazy, but I&#039;d like to get a helmet view (maybe not as restrictive, though) in tin tops too.</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-29932" rel="nofollow">ScHiRoCk</a></strong>: Why without the helmet view scca? I always play from inside the helmet. Seems more realistic to me, becuas in RL they also wear it.</p>
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<p>They also do in other cars. Call me crazy, but I&#8217;d like to get a helmet view (maybe not as restrictive, though) in tin tops too.</p>
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		<title>By: Cenotaph</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/race-on-review/comment-page-1#comment-29991</link>
		<dc:creator>Cenotaph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 03:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its really a shame the price for the expansion is so high, but those formula masters are amazing to drive. I bought it just to get the full race content, couldnt help it, even if i promised not to with these prices.  :shame: 

I feel this game, Race 07 and expansions, is the best sim for public online racing which is something im really enjoying lately, i think thats its strength. For private leagues im not sure since it lacks a few features that ppl might want, like night races and such. I also love how it drives, specially because the FFB works like a charm. I love rFactor for what it is, but even with realfeel or other plugins I never feel so much in control as in Race 07.

But Simbin really needs to look forward or it will definitely fall behind and that would suck because i really like their idea of what a simulator should feel like and what is truly essential in these kinds of games. Dare I say a GTR3 with iOpener?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its really a shame the price for the expansion is so high, but those formula masters are amazing to drive. I bought it just to get the full race content, couldnt help it, even if i promised not to with these prices.  <img src='http://www.virtualr.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_redface.gif' alt=':shame:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I feel this game, Race 07 and expansions, is the best sim for public online racing which is something im really enjoying lately, i think thats its strength. For private leagues im not sure since it lacks a few features that ppl might want, like night races and such. I also love how it drives, specially because the FFB works like a charm. I love rFactor for what it is, but even with realfeel or other plugins I never feel so much in control as in Race 07.</p>
<p>But Simbin really needs to look forward or it will definitely fall behind and that would suck because i really like their idea of what a simulator should feel like and what is truly essential in these kinds of games. Dare I say a GTR3 with iOpener?</p>
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		<title>By: scca1981</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/race-on-review/comment-page-1#comment-29980</link>
		<dc:creator>scca1981</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>+1 To what paupau said.  The lighting in GTR2/GTL even rFactor looks much better and more realistic.  In the race games it seems its always one time of day with no dynamics at that.  I believe it was a major step back. Regardless of night racing or not you can still have dynamic lighting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>+1 To what paupau said.  The lighting in GTR2/GTL even rFactor looks much better and more realistic.  In the race games it seems its always one time of day with no dynamics at that.  I believe it was a major step back. Regardless of night racing or not you can still have dynamic lighting.</p>
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		<title>By: paupau</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/race-on-review/comment-page-1#comment-29940</link>
		<dc:creator>paupau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-29928&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-29928&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;michael&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: “is starting to show its age”Erm, not really, it was starting to show it’s age when GTR Evo was released.

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I always felt RACE was due to fail from the begining. I&#039;m not saying its a bad sim, I only feel the graphics are the big let down in this series. It gets boring after a while, having felt what I like to call a grey sim experience(the lighting and textures give a certain achromatic impression) and for one I go back to GTL and GTR2 for a more colorful drive :neutral:</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-29928" rel="nofollow">michael</a></strong>: “is starting to show its age”Erm, not really, it was starting to show it’s age when GTR Evo was released.</p>
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<p>I always felt RACE was due to fail from the begining. I&#8217;m not saying its a bad sim, I only feel the graphics are the big let down in this series. It gets boring after a while, having felt what I like to call a grey sim experience(the lighting and textures give a certain achromatic impression) and for one I go back to GTL and GTR2 for a more colorful drive <img src='http://www.virtualr.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif' alt=':neutral:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: scca1981</title>
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		<dc:creator>scca1981</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I can&#039;t argue with a helmet view being more realistic but i&#039;ll try!

I feel the helmet view is much more restrictive than in real life.  The helmets i&#039;ve warn I can&#039;t see a few inches in front of my chin.  All I can recall seeing is a little of the sides of the padding.  Kind of hard to explain but it feels in the game like i&#039;m wearing a helmet 4 times larger than my head.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I can&#8217;t argue with a helmet view being more realistic but i&#8217;ll try!</p>
<p>I feel the helmet view is much more restrictive than in real life.  The helmets i&#8217;ve warn I can&#8217;t see a few inches in front of my chin.  All I can recall seeing is a little of the sides of the padding.  Kind of hard to explain but it feels in the game like i&#8217;m wearing a helmet 4 times larger than my head.</p>
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		<title>By: ScHiRoCk</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/race-on-review/comment-page-1#comment-29932</link>
		<dc:creator>ScHiRoCk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why without the helmet view scca? I always play from inside the helmet. Seems more realistic to me, becuas in RL they also wear it.

Beh, i want to buy it. But after the price drops. I already have all the expansions, so i deserve a discount to others that do not have stcc for example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why without the helmet view scca? I always play from inside the helmet. Seems more realistic to me, becuas in RL they also wear it.</p>
<p>Beh, i want to buy it. But after the price drops. I already have all the expansions, so i deserve a discount to others that do not have stcc for example.</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 07:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;is starting to show its age&quot;

Erm, not really, it was starting to show it&#039;s age when GTR Evo was released.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;is starting to show its age&#8221;</p>
<p>Erm, not really, it was starting to show it&#8217;s age when GTR Evo was released.</p>
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		<title>By: ForzaBarca88</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/race-on-review/comment-page-1#comment-29926</link>
		<dc:creator>ForzaBarca88</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 05:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds about right, I&#039;m pretty sure the camaro cup cars are actually run as a support class for the STCC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds about right, I&#8217;m pretty sure the camaro cup cars are actually run as a support class for the STCC.</p>
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		<title>By: jcchaconjr</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/race-on-review/comment-page-1#comment-29925</link>
		<dc:creator>jcchaconjr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 04:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to admit that my feelings were mixed with this expansion. I&#039;ve driven a few of the muscle cars, and they just feel slow and unresponsive - not &quot;drift happy&quot; as described in the review... I&#039;m not being critical of the review&#039;s opinion, mind you - just voicing my personal opinion. :)

The IFM cars, on the other hand, are an absolute blast to drive! Driving this car made me stop regretting my purchase, lol.

My biggest disappointment, however, is that the Race On Expansion as sold on Steam does NOT include the Camaro Cup cars. Apparently, this is actually part of STCC - The Game (Check the details for STCC on Steam), and is not included in the Expansion, only the Bundle version that is sold on Steam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to admit that my feelings were mixed with this expansion. I&#8217;ve driven a few of the muscle cars, and they just feel slow and unresponsive &#8211; not &#8220;drift happy&#8221; as described in the review&#8230; I&#8217;m not being critical of the review&#8217;s opinion, mind you &#8211; just voicing my personal opinion. :)</p>
<p>The IFM cars, on the other hand, are an absolute blast to drive! Driving this car made me stop regretting my purchase, lol.</p>
<p>My biggest disappointment, however, is that the Race On Expansion as sold on Steam does NOT include the Camaro Cup cars. Apparently, this is actually part of STCC &#8211; The Game (Check the details for STCC on Steam), and is not included in the Expansion, only the Bundle version that is sold on Steam.</p>
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		<title>By: UncleChuckle</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/race-on-review/comment-page-1#comment-29924</link>
		<dc:creator>UncleChuckle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 02:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While thing just felt rushed. Which given how long it&#039;s taken and how much hype was behind it is somewhat disturbing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While thing just felt rushed. Which given how long it&#8217;s taken and how much hype was behind it is somewhat disturbing.</p>
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		<title>By: scca1981</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/race-on-review/comment-page-1#comment-29923</link>
		<dc:creator>scca1981</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 02:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree with most of what you said.  However couple things...  The US Muscle sounds are very weak.  Maybe you have a different copy than I do but I run a 6 channel sound system and the sounds just are not full at all.  They lack that deep v8 rumble and the rasp you get at wide open throttle.  IMHO the sounds are the biggest let down of the game.  Sounds are a very important part of the immersion factor and these just aren&#039;t doing it.

On the US Muscle Race versions they lack a couple of things graphically.  Exterior views have stock cockpits,  some cars have a race seat and stock seat(how&#039;d they miss this?), no roll cages, paint on tow-hooks, some low quality textures and more.  The wheels are all oversize compared to real life and the ride heights almost make the cars look like small trucks.  I like the cars but I was quite disappointed with the overall quality and don&#039;t feel its up to par with their previous games.  Sure the models are nice,  but they don&#039;t have those finishing touches found in the games all the way back to GT Legends.  I wasn&#039;t sure on the physics of these cars at first but after a good amount of laps I do enjoy them.

The new tracks are nice but I despise the fake advertising billboards littered all around.  Some of the textures could be better but overall they are at Simbin quality.

Formula Masters (without the helmet view) are the highlight of the add-on/game.  Hands down best car released by Simbin since GTR2.  Quality its top notch.  I just wish they would have put that same quality into the US Muscle Cars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree with most of what you said.  However couple things&#8230;  The US Muscle sounds are very weak.  Maybe you have a different copy than I do but I run a 6 channel sound system and the sounds just are not full at all.  They lack that deep v8 rumble and the rasp you get at wide open throttle.  IMHO the sounds are the biggest let down of the game.  Sounds are a very important part of the immersion factor and these just aren&#8217;t doing it.</p>
<p>On the US Muscle Race versions they lack a couple of things graphically.  Exterior views have stock cockpits,  some cars have a race seat and stock seat(how&#8217;d they miss this?), no roll cages, paint on tow-hooks, some low quality textures and more.  The wheels are all oversize compared to real life and the ride heights almost make the cars look like small trucks.  I like the cars but I was quite disappointed with the overall quality and don&#8217;t feel its up to par with their previous games.  Sure the models are nice,  but they don&#8217;t have those finishing touches found in the games all the way back to GT Legends.  I wasn&#8217;t sure on the physics of these cars at first but after a good amount of laps I do enjoy them.</p>
<p>The new tracks are nice but I despise the fake advertising billboards littered all around.  Some of the textures could be better but overall they are at Simbin quality.</p>
<p>Formula Masters (without the helmet view) are the highlight of the add-on/game.  Hands down best car released by Simbin since GTR2.  Quality its top notch.  I just wish they would have put that same quality into the US Muscle Cars.</p>
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		<title>By: felipe</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/race-on-review/comment-page-1#comment-29922</link>
		<dc:creator>felipe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 02:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lower the price for the STCC and Race On expansion bundle to U$15 and I&#039;ll be getting it.

shame on you simbin you&#039;ve become a dustbin trying to take advantage of your customers! Simbin you may milk my &quot;down under&quot; parts but not my wallet! 

@Maddmatt - Steam had the STCC and Race On expansion bundle for U$25 but instead of making it a better value for money deal they went the Adolph Hitler style! Crazy people!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lower the price for the STCC and Race On expansion bundle to U$15 and I&#8217;ll be getting it.</p>
<p>shame on you simbin you&#8217;ve become a dustbin trying to take advantage of your customers! Simbin you may milk my &#8220;down under&#8221; parts but not my wallet! </p>
<p>@Maddmatt &#8211; Steam had the STCC and Race On expansion bundle for U$25 but instead of making it a better value for money deal they went the Adolph Hitler style! Crazy people!</p>
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		<title>By: Maddmatt</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/race-on-review/comment-page-1#comment-29921</link>
		<dc:creator>Maddmatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 01:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-29918&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-29918&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Filipe Galego&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: Nice review. I’m still not sure I want to pay €25 for it though. If it was possible to give Race 07 and STCC to someone when buying the full package then I would have done that instead.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No. The Steam expansion does not include STCC.

Personally I wont be buying it. I&#039;m tired of Gmotor games. Waiting for something new, I&#039;ve got other games to play in the meantime :)</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-29918" rel="nofollow">Filipe Galego</a></strong>: Nice review. I’m still not sure I want to pay €25 for it though. If it was possible to give Race 07 and STCC to someone when buying the full package then I would have done that instead.
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<p>No. The Steam expansion does not include STCC.</p>
<p>Personally I wont be buying it. I&#8217;m tired of Gmotor games. Waiting for something new, I&#8217;ve got other games to play in the meantime :)</p>
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		<title>By: Filipe Galego</title>
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		<dc:creator>Filipe Galego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 23:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve all other addons and now I&#039;m forced to buy again the STCC???... Should be another pack without the STCC for the people how has Race07, GTRE and STCC... And cheaper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve all other addons and now I&#8217;m forced to buy again the STCC???&#8230; Should be another pack without the STCC for the people how has Race07, GTRE and STCC&#8230; And cheaper.</p>
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		<title>By: homerfreak</title>
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		<dc:creator>homerfreak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 23:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>However, I didn&#039;t play it for years... ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>However, I didn&#8217;t play it for years&#8230; ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, the first Race game was called &quot;Race - The WTCC Game&quot;. :wink: 

Nice review. I&#039;m still not sure I want to pay €25 for it though. If it was possible to give Race 07 and STCC to someone when buying the full package then I would have done that instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, the first Race game was called &#8220;Race &#8211; The WTCC Game&#8221;. <img src='http://www.virtualr.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=':wink:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Nice review. I&#8217;m still not sure I want to pay €25 for it though. If it was possible to give Race 07 and STCC to someone when buying the full package then I would have done that instead.</p>
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		<title>By: homerfreak</title>
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		<dc:creator>homerfreak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;RACE On was the first Simbin product to feature more than one series, pairing the Mini Challenge alongside the WTCC series. RACE 07 further extended this strategy, combining open wheel racing and touring cars in one title.&quot;

...it was &quot;WTCC: The Game&quot; ;)
Anyway, good review =) I&#039;ll buy it as soon as the expansion doesn&#039;t cost more than 10€.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;RACE On was the first Simbin product to feature more than one series, pairing the Mini Challenge alongside the WTCC series. RACE 07 further extended this strategy, combining open wheel racing and touring cars in one title.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;it was &#8220;WTCC: The Game&#8221; ;)<br />
Anyway, good review =) I&#8217;ll buy it as soon as the expansion doesn&#8217;t cost more than 10€.</p>
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