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		<title>By: DW</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/race-on-new-previews-release-dates/comment-page-1#comment-24702</link>
		<dc:creator>DW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-24698&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-24698&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;UncleChuckle&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: Hopefully the release will be more intelligently handled than STCC was. That was a farce, with it coming out in one country but not another, and being out for ages before the Steam version appeared. 
Simbin are basically idiots when it comes to release dates.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You are assuming Simbin are in control of release dates.  They basically produce the game, give it to the publisher/distributor and release is down to the publisher/distributor.

Since Atari (or whatever they call themselves now) have always staggered release of Simbin titles back to GTR, then sadly I think we can only expect the same again.  And since they don&#039;t want the game available on Steam before they&#039;ve released the boxed version, a key benefit of steam is also lost.

The only time release was done well was with the original RACE but that was distributed by Psygnosis, and the partership with Psygnosis died.

One positive is Viva Media no longer wait for the first patch before distributing so at least our North American cousins don&#039;t have to wait months like they used to.</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-24698" rel="nofollow">UncleChuckle</a></strong>: Hopefully the release will be more intelligently handled than STCC was. That was a farce, with it coming out in one country but not another, and being out for ages before the Steam version appeared.<br />
Simbin are basically idiots when it comes to release dates.
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<p>You are assuming Simbin are in control of release dates.  They basically produce the game, give it to the publisher/distributor and release is down to the publisher/distributor.</p>
<p>Since Atari (or whatever they call themselves now) have always staggered release of Simbin titles back to GTR, then sadly I think we can only expect the same again.  And since they don&#8217;t want the game available on Steam before they&#8217;ve released the boxed version, a key benefit of steam is also lost.</p>
<p>The only time release was done well was with the original RACE but that was distributed by Psygnosis, and the partership with Psygnosis died.</p>
<p>One positive is Viva Media no longer wait for the first patch before distributing so at least our North American cousins don&#8217;t have to wait months like they used to.</p>
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		<title>By: captain_underpants</title>
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		<dc:creator>captain_underpants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 04:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You realise it&#039;s only a matter of time before we see an SUV expansion for the series. They&#039;re already in Forza 3.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You realise it&#8217;s only a matter of time before we see an SUV expansion for the series. They&#8217;re already in Forza 3.</p>
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		<title>By: UncleChuckle</title>
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		<dc:creator>UncleChuckle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 04:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hopefully the release will be more intelligently handled than STCC was. That was a farce, with it coming out in one country but not another, and being out for ages before the Steam version appeared. 

Simbin are basically idiots when it comes to release dates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopefully the release will be more intelligently handled than STCC was. That was a farce, with it coming out in one country but not another, and being out for ages before the Steam version appeared. </p>
<p>Simbin are basically idiots when it comes to release dates.</p>
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		<title>By: Mojo66</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mojo66</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 00:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>USA: €21
Germany: €50
PB: €0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>USA: €21<br />
Germany: €50<br />
PB: €0</p>
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		<title>By: DW</title>
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		<dc:creator>DW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 17:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-24657&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-24657&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;LensFlare&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: NAMCO BANDAI partners is the new name of Atari …
That’s why bitComposer is now the new publisher for SimBin titles.
And bitComposer, it’s people from 10Tacles :)
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ah thanks :)

So we will still get the staggered release.  And Steam will be later than most.  At least Shift will keep me busy while I&#039;m waiting :)</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-24657" rel="nofollow">LensFlare</a></strong>: NAMCO BANDAI partners is the new name of Atari …<br />
That’s why bitComposer is now the new publisher for SimBin titles.<br />
And bitComposer, it’s people from 10Tacles :)
</p></blockquote>
<p>Ah thanks :)</p>
<p>So we will still get the staggered release.  And Steam will be later than most.  At least Shift will keep me busy while I&#8217;m waiting :)</p>
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		<title>By: Gopher04</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gopher04</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 17:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never believe to much what Amazon put up..Atleast NFS Shift is on Gameplay only 40 days away, but as we know dates change..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never believe to much what Amazon put up..Atleast NFS Shift is on Gameplay only 40 days away, but as we know dates change..</p>
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		<title>By: scca1981</title>
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		<dc:creator>scca1981</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 16:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ahh my bad I see these are what amazon has and not something simbin has officially submitted here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ahh my bad I see these are what amazon has and not something simbin has officially submitted here.</p>
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		<title>By: scca1981</title>
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		<dc:creator>scca1981</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 16:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oooo Ahh low res previews.  Seriously is this a joke?  Do you not want to sell this game?

I can not believe a professional game developer is promoting a game with low res crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oooo Ahh low res previews.  Seriously is this a joke?  Do you not want to sell this game?</p>
<p>I can not believe a professional game developer is promoting a game with low res crap.</p>
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		<title>By: Raikku</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raikku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 15:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So. when European Steam-users can buy this(as a addon)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So. when European Steam-users can buy this(as a addon)?</p>
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		<title>By: gtrNL</title>
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		<dc:creator>gtrNL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 15:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the look of the Muscle cars, they look like they are rolling in the corners, which would be nice and realistic. Looking forward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the look of the Muscle cars, they look like they are rolling in the corners, which would be nice and realistic. Looking forward.</p>
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		<title>By: stabiz</title>
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		<dc:creator>stabiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 15:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get fast, get furious?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get fast, get furious?</p>
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		<title>By: LensFlare</title>
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		<dc:creator>LensFlare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 14:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NAMCO BANDAI partners is the new name of Atari ...


That&#039;s why bitComposer is now the new publisher for SimBin titles.


And bitComposer, it&#039;s people from 10Tacles :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NAMCO BANDAI partners is the new name of Atari &#8230;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why bitComposer is now the new publisher for SimBin titles.</p>
<p>And bitComposer, it&#8217;s people from 10Tacles :)</p>
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		<title>By: DW</title>
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		<dc:creator>DW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 14:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The German site lists NAMCO BANDAI Partners as the publisher.  Seems ATARI have been given the boot - or they weren&#039;t interested anymore.  Here&#039;s hoping NAMCO BANDAI Partners don&#039;t have the staggered release which ATARI always had.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The German site lists NAMCO BANDAI Partners as the publisher.  Seems ATARI have been given the boot &#8211; or they weren&#8217;t interested anymore.  Here&#8217;s hoping NAMCO BANDAI Partners don&#8217;t have the staggered release which ATARI always had.</p>
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		<title>By: Montoya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Montoya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 14:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ever since RACE07, all Simbin titles have been compatible to each other and previous owners were able to buy the cheaper expansion version. I thought it was obvious that this was the same with RACE On...

Since the expansions are almost never sold in store (at least not here in Germany), Amazon of course only lists the full version.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ever since RACE07, all Simbin titles have been compatible to each other and previous owners were able to buy the cheaper expansion version. I thought it was obvious that this was the same with RACE On&#8230;</p>
<p>Since the expansions are almost never sold in store (at least not here in Germany), Amazon of course only lists the full version.</p>
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		<title>By: DW</title>
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		<dc:creator>DW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 14:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-24649&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-24649&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;sanjabass&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: Didn’t saw info about upgrade for GTR Evo..
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Its unlikely Amazon will sell the upgrade based on past experience.  The economics of boxed copies of expansions for low selling titles are such its not worth it.  This is the beauty of steam - it makes expansions viable - and so the expansion will be available through Steam.</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-24649" rel="nofollow">sanjabass</a></strong>: Didn’t saw info about upgrade for GTR Evo..
</p></blockquote>
<p>Its unlikely Amazon will sell the upgrade based on past experience.  The economics of boxed copies of expansions for low selling titles are such its not worth it.  This is the beauty of steam &#8211; it makes expansions viable &#8211; and so the expansion will be available through Steam.</p>
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		<title>By: LensFlare</title>
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		<dc:creator>LensFlare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 14:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It has been announced in the latest community update. There wasn&#039;t any article about it here?

SimBin stated:

&quot;Also as always there will be differentiated pricing model depending on what content you already own on Steam. If you already have STCC then you don’t pay full price etc. We believe in expanding content and quality, but not in charging twice for the same content.&quot;

read full announcement on their facebook page:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/SimBin/130115126123</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has been announced in the latest community update. There wasn&#8217;t any article about it here?</p>
<p>SimBin stated:</p>
<p>&#8220;Also as always there will be differentiated pricing model depending on what content you already own on Steam. If you already have STCC then you don’t pay full price etc. We believe in expanding content and quality, but not in charging twice for the same content.&#8221;</p>
<p>read full announcement on their facebook page:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.facebook.com/pages/SimBin/130115126123" rel="nofollow">http://www.facebook.com/pages/SimBin/130115126123</a></p>
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		<title>By: sediol</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 14:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So the price would be:
21,13 (USA) vs.  49,95 EURO   (Europe/Germany) 

29,99 (USA) vs.  70,87 DOLLAR (Europe/Germany)


...isn&#039;t that weird??

(exchange rate of 1 USD=0.7048 EUR for 09.08.2009)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the price would be:<br />
21,13 (USA) vs.  49,95 EURO   (Europe/Germany) </p>
<p>29,99 (USA) vs.  70,87 DOLLAR (Europe/Germany)</p>
<p>&#8230;isn&#8217;t that weird??</p>
<p>(exchange rate of 1 USD=0.7048 EUR for 09.08.2009)</p>
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		<title>By: toast</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 14:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>30 Dollar = abaout 21 Euro

More than double the price for Germany???  :lol:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>30 Dollar = abaout 21 Euro</p>
<p>More than double the price for Germany???  <img src='http://www.virtualr.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: sanjabass</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 14:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t saw info about upgrade for GTR Evo..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t saw info about upgrade for GTR Evo..</p>
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		<title>By: LensFlare</title>
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		<dc:creator>LensFlare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 13:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AND will also be available as a simple addon for Race&#039;07.

You will not have to buy Race&#039;07 a second time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AND will also be available as a simple addon for Race&#8217;07.</p>
<p>You will not have to buy Race&#8217;07 a second time.</p>
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