Give them all the money you want, but typifying people that don’t wish to as ‘tightwads’ is plain rude.

McBain: It’s sad to see that so many sim-racers are such tightwads, too stingy to throw a few bucks at the folks that make the best sims out there.

If you want to be seen as little more than a wallet with legs, good luck to you!

Niksounds:
uhmm.. and it’s the best actually.
Ok 5 years old, but this isn’t indicative of inaccurate physics :-D

It is indicative of a model that in its time was accurate, but there are far more accurate models taking advantage of the increased cpu power in modern systems to model and track far more variables.

While Iracing’s drive train model stinks and the aero too, it still “feels and performs” far more like the formula ford I had driven irl, than anything produced in the current gmotor2 engine. The same is also true of the other two titles I listed. None of them perfect, a lack of real world tracks and race series, but nonetheless a more accurate experience; which, for me at least, is of overriding importance.

I do not knock any of the gmotor2 incarnations, they still have something to offer, but this latest release, is imho, a money grabbing exercise designed to wring a few extra pounds from an aging sim.

McBain: It’s sad to see that so many sim-racers are such tightwads, too stingy to throw a few bucks at the folks that make the best sims out there.

I agree I am a tightwad and I agree it is sad I’m not buying a title for the sake of £6 ($10) – the price of a bottle of wine.

But it just doesn’t seem right to pay 80% the price of a the full game for an expansion which contains perhaps 20% of the content. My rule of thumb is expansions shouldn’t cost more than half the price of the full game they are based on.

The other issue (I have to admit) is I don’t find the new cars exciting enough and the demo seemed dull to me. If the expansion had been for GTL and contained only 6 new cars I would have bought it even at that price. And I agree with you that the new tracks are good tracks so I will buy the boxed game when the price comes down after Christmas.

Hexcaliber: Gmotor2 is almost 5 years old now

uhmm.. and it’s the best actually.
Ok 5 years old, but this isn’t indicative of inaccurate physics :-D

UncleChuckle:
You’re like the kids at my school that would develop an overwhelming interest in tennis during Wimbledon fortnight.$25 for a track? This is the real world, not bloody Land of the Rubes, iRacing.

Sorry, I don’t play iRacing. However, I do enjoy taking a few laps while pausing real-world races on my DVR. This week had the Monterey Historics and ALMS at Laguna Seca, so I was glad to find Race On released on Steam. I also re-watched ALMS and Patron GT Challenge at Road America, trying to match the times of the pros. The Simbin tracks are miles ahead of the mod versions of both tracks.

It’s sad to see that so many sim-racers are such tightwads, too stingy to throw a few bucks at the folks that make the best sims out there.

McBain: Laguna Seca alone was worth the $25, especially with the Monterey Historics on Speed last night.

You’re like the kids at my school that would develop an overwhelming interest in tennis during Wimbledon fortnight.

$25 for a track? This is the real world, not bloody Land of the Rubes, iRacing.

These “new tracks” and some of the vehicles were already available from the community and the better ones are easily comparable to the content simbin is offering up. I will save the £17.99, and, as I am due for a license update in iracing at the end of the month, will use it to buy the Lotus, money much better spent.

I’ve bought all their titles on retail discs. Got GTR from Germany as it was going to be released here in the uk nearly 2months later. Bought STCC from Sweden as I didn’t want to pay for a download. I was going to get the addon through Steam as I want to take part in club events at RD and buy the disc version later to keep my collection up to date. £17.99 is too much for just the RACE ON content. I have the unofficial Demo to play offline for now until the retail version is out in the UK now. It will only cost £25 and I’ll have the box to put on the shelf with the rest of them.

As for Simbin though I’m not happy. First we had to wait quite a while for Race On whilst getting the shock of Race Pro getting the content when they had not even said it was going to be available for it!! They also gave them more goodies like the historics and other tracks within 24hours of it which us PC owners (their original customers) don’t seem to be getting.

They really seem to be screwing us over now .

The new tracks were nice though.

That doesn’t make much sense to me at all. I was expecting maybe €10-15 for just the expansion.

In comparison, the addon packs for Race Pro costs €6.50-9.50 each and they contain 8-9 (40-52 skins) cars and 2-4 tracks each.
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