Project CARS – Oli Webb LMP2 Test Drive

Last week, race car river Oli Webb visited Slightly Mad Studios to provide feedback on the WMD-powered Project CARS title.

Earlier today, Oli was busy test driving Sebastien Loeb Racing’s Oreca 03 LMP2 car, taking Project CARS along for the ride.

As announced in July, the ORECA 03 LMP2 car will be featured in Project CARS and thanks to today’s test, Oli Webb will be able to ensure a completely authentic handling experience within the title thanks to his personal experience with the car.

Project CARS will be available for the PC, PlayStation 4, Xbox One, Steam OS, and Wii U starting Fall 2014. More info can be found on the WMD website.

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  • Alejandro Gorgal

    Wow, SMS is going all out on this, I wish them the best of luck.

  • Anonymous

    Well I think it’s pretty cool to be seeing this!

  • Anonymous

    This is great, I’m sure they got heaps of telemetry which I’m sure will be even more useful than Oli’s feedback. Nothing against Oli but its surely a more scientific approach? I remember when they said CART precision racing was a proper sim and that race drivers said it felt like the real deal…

  • Realkman666

    They all feel like the real deal to them as long as it’s not Mario Kart. They have zero expectations.

  • Anonymous

    Can only mean good things, all stickered up as well …nice job !

  • Joshua Healy

    Also when you consider the time period they were in, CART Precision Racing probably was the most realistic they had felt at the time :P

  • Markus Ott

    I am pretty sure Gamermuscle has to disagree with this. He knows better what’s realistic than someone who drove real race cars.

  • Anonymous

    Didn’t you make exactly the same joke in the last article about Oli Webb?

  • Anonymous

    marketing

  • Timpie

    “[insert racing driver here] will be able to ensure a completely authentic handling
    experience within the title thanks to his personal experience with the
    car.” Said every racing game ever made

  • Realkman666

    You laugh, but without Anthony Davidson, the autospins in F1 2010 would have been totally unrealistic.

  • Christopher Trees

    Bwaaaaahahahahahahaaa funniest comment on VR ever… That is all

  • GamerMuscle

    Do you want a mas-debate, you love to bate with your comments ‽

    The only point I ever made was that driver feedback is nice and all but even with the best driver feedback its still down to the programmer to have everything work.

    I’m fairly confident that the quality of the underlying physics in a simulator is going to be down to the key programmer/s to have a reasonably intuitive understanding of car physics , good quality data to hand and a ridiculous understanding of how to make the math work within the frame works they have designed to get the results they desire.

    Historically we have had many real world drivers endorse X Y Z game with generalized statements that marketing will obviously use , so from a general consumer view point its not a good way to gage a sims quality or realism.

    If people are fair to SMS then they have to admit that SMS have certainly had allot of what looks like good quality driver feedback for Pcars and I don’t think SMS are disingenuous about it , I’m also sure it will have a positive impact on the product in many regards not just physics.

  • Anonymous

    So the best way to ensure realistic physics is to *not* listen to real drivers then? Just trying to understand the logic here.

  • http://www.devotid.com/ devotid

    haha…. those mechanics look bored. I would be giggling the entire time just being in the same room as that car….let alone working on it. :) Good Luck SMS……im sure that sticker placement isnt cheap.

  • Marco Hooghuis

    You cannot assume a title will be realistic just because some hotshot racer has worked on it. I mean, there were Le Mans drivers involved with Racedriver GRID for crying out loud.

  • Anonymous

    Agree. I honestly don’t think these drivers giving some feedback make a big difference towards realism.

  • Big Ron

    Indeed, the mechanics´ face just says “I just need a break” :)

  • Anonymous

    I think you you hit nail on the head here. Zero expectations.

  • Christopher Trees

    Race driver involvement for the most part is as much as some exchange of cash/cheque and photo/video op time and some comments along the lines of “it’s the most realistic I have ever used…”
    I will stick to iracing in that regards as I often find myself driving against v8 supercar, gt or nascar drivers.

  • Marco Hooghuis

    That’s something different, that’s a racing driver actually USING the product, rather than merely endorsing it. And it could be that the racer is using iracing because of the multiplayer, which is the best that’s out there. The physics are demonstrably lacking.

  • speed1

    Yes , the best base is useless in misinterpretation. Most suiteable would be an automotive engineer himself programming one but unfortunately you will find rarely automotive engineers as programmer for game industry.
    It’s getting better and better but basicly it’s like an automotive engineer tries to be a star hairdresser just by foreign experience and info.

  • Chima Madujibeya

    I think he’s saying that its plain simple marketing and whichever title it is, would basically be the same even without the connection to and input from [insert racing driver here]

  • Anonymous

    As opposed to some sims and earlier efforts there are actually pro drivers doing a lot of testing and extensive reporting (Ben Collins, Nicholas Hamilton, and perhaps Oli Webb will come on board).

    But hey, the regular naysayer crowd are oblivious to facts like that… Why is it that this thread brings on such a strong sense of deja vu? ;-)

  • Anonymous

    Is it OK to keep on lying like that? Yet again a false attribution that innocent passers-by may come to believe (the web being what it is…), and Oli Webb is not here to defend himself. That is a pretty low form of trollscumbaggery.

    Edit to add: don’t mistake malicious derision for humor, folks!

  • Gumshoe

    And that’s fine to think. But meanwhile those of us that are members enjoy the detailed, critical and regular feedback that Nic and Ben (and hopefully Oli) give on the progress of pCARS.
    The don’t hold back and really are good at picking fine handling details that do and don’t work.

    Sorry all you non-members don’t get to experience that, it’s worth the price of admission alone!

  • Chima Madujibeya

    I wouldn’t dismiss the input of any professional/expert (or even novice), that would be arrogant and short sighted to say the least. On the contrary, I welcome it!

    It makes sense that every car game/sim currently been produced has “pro race drivers” connected to them.

    However there have been many previous titles which ‘we have all sampled’ where the connection to pro race drivers has been made publicly known. Unfortunately the end results have been far from convincing relative to the sound bites and analysis given to us, by said “pro drivers”.

    Given these realities, a certain amount of cynicism is realistic but we remain hopeful that the end result of ALL these different sim titles brings us a step closer to ‘virtual reality’ in this sim racing world :)

  • Anonymous

    When we hear sharp criticism and then “that’s it, now you got it just right”, from these real race driver’s test sessions. We know it’s more then just marketing hype. A lot of Sim racers don’t like a new Sim surpassing there favorite Sim. Especially if they’ve got thousands of dollars and thousands of hours invested in that Sim. They want their Sim the one at the top.

  • Anonymous

    Well you make good points. Doug Arnao has been a racer and sim physics programmer for quite a long time on highly regarded sim titles. I agree that since going to a new game engine it has been an ongoing process to either build in new elements and polish and re-polish existing elements. I think SMS has shown that they have enough of a range of tweakability to get all of their cars to drive good and be well accepted by the majority of gamers who play this types of games. I just think they are extensively looking for that little bit more in efforts to be the best it can be and pushing the restraints of the software. Rest assured they will find a balance before it is released.

  • Anonymous

    In the beginning I was strictly a one title sim racer before spinning off to other titles. Now I have enough content to last a lifetime. Sure I have my all time favorite title I am sure most of us do but I also think the majority looks to new content with open arms and does not worry if it will top their “All Time” favorite since the most important opinion we have is our own.

  • Anonymous

    My point is that the repeated argument against pCARS pro driver involvement is that it’s “a handover of cheques” / “only marketing” etc.., which is patently and provably false. That is indeed something which has happened in the past and to other sims, but it’s not the case here.

    For the very first time in sim racing history the pro driver involvement is completely open to scrutiny, and IMO it’s holding up well. It’s not a magic bullet of course (nothing is), but its can only help in creating a better sim.

    What we’re seeing in these threads, is blanket refusal of any positive effects and mean derision of the persons involved. It’s neither logical nor cool.

  • Chima Madujibeya

    “….can only help in creating a better sim…”
    Thats all anyone wants…..well thats what I want!

    I can’t speak for everyone who comes on these forums :)

  • Dani .

    CART was a very good sim.

  • Anonymous

    You obviously don’t fall into the “allot of Simracers”, I spoke of. And if they mainly race “on-line”. Then they want others to join their Sim of choice. Don’t they?

  • Anonymous

    I really did not have any problem with your post and agree with some of it. I just see the majority of the communities anxious to see new content. I think it comes down to if the newer title or other title does not offer the experiences they seek some go a bit overboard on voicing their opinion but that’s just the way they feel and believe. I don’t have to like some of it or agree with it since I have developed my own tastes and opinions that I will stand by where it concerns me.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, that’s the difference really. I know that several drivers use and endorse iRacing, Rubens Barrichello uses and endorses GSC, and a few drivers use and endorse pCARS. There’s a big difference there to Codemasters simply telling us that Anthony Davidson says their game is good.

  • Big Ron

    Oh dear, I see where this ends. I hate nothing more than such statements for games. I am really confident for the finished game and like the development. But even I see how pCARS is behind other sims ATM. Such a statement is just “not true”. They might have the tech, they might have the staffs, but they still need to sort everything together.

  • Anonymous

    I just see 2 really concentrated people, who will be happy when the photographer leaves them to continue with their work.

  • Realkman666

    I am mean and uncool, but I still don’t trust marketing. Everybody loses. :(

  • Realkman666

    Leave Ant alone, he’s a professional.
    ” To ensure fans get the ultimate racing experience, former F1 driver Anthony Davidson has been embedded into the Codemasters development team as Technical Consultant to advise on handling and performance. “

  • Sam Sturino

    Great Post!!!

  • Timpie

    It’s imo abit rendundant to say stuff like that since, like I said, every racing game ever has used that line at some point. 5years ago iRacing was using Dale Jr. and it was the most realistic sim. 5years has passed and umpteen different tire models and “physic” versions further and I’m sure according to the new guy they’ll use it’s again the most realistic sim ever. Just like Ant Davidson for F1 2010 etc etc.
    I doubt anyone is still fooled by the fact that x told them that it’s good so it’s a must buy.

  • Anonymous

    And you can’t trust opinions on forums. So maybe you should put a disclaimer on everyone of your post. Just to remind everyone that your’s stinks also,.

  • Anonymous

    You ought to be happy then, that Ben & Nic aren’t hired to say that it’s good. On the contrary, they’re there to thoroughly test and critique, and that’s what they do.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t forget about McNish and SRW, and more recently SVG and iRacing. Or every modern console racer.

  • Anonymous

    There’s a big difference between seeking input as part of the development process, and using driver input as a smokescreen to make the physics appear better than they are.

    To put it another way, the reason people are so skeptical of sims which receive quality driver feedback (like pCARS) is all the games which said they used driver feedback but ended up crap.

  • Anonymous

    If people would be less occupied trolling and looking at the facts more they would realize that the drivers that are only used for marketing only speak up shortly before the release, when it is actually time for marketing.

    pCARS is still a year away from release and Ben & Nic have been doing this for so long now, Ben has been with WMD since the very start.

    There lies the difference, they’re involved in the development and it’s obvious for everyone to see. There’s nothing to market right now, the game won’t be available for a long while, WMD does not accept new membership accounts either.

    What would be the point of doing marketing now? Every expert will tell you that you ramp up your marketing efforts shortly before the release. Look at how that works for other titles.

    Seriously, Ben & Nic write weekly feedback blogs, extensive ones. How much more development participation can drivers actually do?

  • Anonymous

    You did see that I agreed pCARS does receive quality feedback, right?

  • Marco Hooghuis

    You weren’t talking just about pcars, you were generalizing.

  • Marco Hooghuis

    My point exactly

  • LogiForce

    I have yet to see a post of both of them where they don’t mention critical attention points. Even the extremely positive posts would mention a thing or two on what could do with further tweaking to let the car respond better. Or just gameplay and environment improval proposals. The curbs and bankings at Monza changed a lot after Nic’s comment about them.

    I guess people on the outside will remain critical until they get their hands on it. Which isn’t a bad thing, cause we are like that on the inside as well. So lets hope the two align at the end of the road. ;)

  • Anonymous

    Big Ron, are your aware that knob is a troll and a liar, and that Oli Webb has never said anything like this?

    (Your statement reads as if you believed him)

  • Big Ron

    Hopefully that´s true, It would be better of he never ´ve said it. I see Vaughn Gittin Jr. before my eyes.

  • Anonymous

    Care to explain your belief? Seeing it in real time has me thinking that there is significant value from the input into pCARS. Would like to hear why you don’t think it does… Thanks.

  • Roger Wallentin

    I dont understand the criticism on this type of news?

    How can there be something negative that a professional racing driver gives feedback on the exact same car he drives in a sim?

    In my experience that is quite rare that someone gives feedback on a specific rare car for a sim who has actually driven it hard and on the limit, a few gets general feedback from “pros” but specific is rare.

    You can argue that pCars isnt yet the most realistic sim, but I dont see this type of activity making it worse?

  • http://www.facebook.com/steve.shears.37 Steve Shears

    Its because of the expectation that SMS are going to say something like “we used real sim drivers to assist us” in a marketing ploy to advertise that their game is best. Its all crap of course. Both devs and sim fans are right and wrong on this and its been proved to work and not work. Therefore its an utterly pointless discussion really. What you need to know is that SMS seem to be really trying to get this game to be up their with the best.

  • Realkman666

    I never speak for people who need disclaimers. I just leave them a bowl of kibbles and fresh water.

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