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The amount of “trailers” this game has is laughable.

I would like them more if the “trailers” actually lasts as long as a trailer and isn’t a montage with boring and random panning shots. Tell a story with the videos please!

I am also not the biggest fan of the amount of trailers. They all show the same and there are at least 5 trailers for one time line of the game before new content appears and the same begins again.

BMW M3 91, is very cool car, but it is dead boring to drive it on F1 tracks. It needs hill-climbing, country side roads. Hope pCars have that.

pCars already has country roads.

The music clips, or photo clips are anti-narrative, they dont follow the structure of the classic novel from 19th century (introduction, development and conclusion) are a montage based on a concept, they dont necesary must have a dramatic need, a “story”.

physic update…yaaay

A game trailer should be like a horror movie trailer. Obviously replace the gore and killing and babies heads being chopped off with an “epic 5 car wide battle down the main straight and then double file into the monza chicane”. You need to be dramatic to sell something!

I could be wrong but.. SMS hasn’t released a single trailer for this game yet. These are all fan-made trailers, as such they will be of varying quality and randomness.

Also, according to the “community”, barely anything in the game is finished, so it isn’t really advertising anything worthwhile for me, it’s just a bunch of pretty videos of potential.

Yeah, SMS should be ashamed to have a big community with many creative guys who like to take screenshots and make trailers. They should tell the community to stop it because there are people on the VirtualR comment section who don’t like that.

Bad community! BAD!

Be real here. The screenshots and trailers are about as creative as ripping Forza/Shift models in F1Classic. Quality, not quantity!

True. All fan/community made (maybe one or two made by SMS)

@ the trailer haters. Stop saying stuff like that. This is spread out to alot of people, so offcause there is alot of videos

And if it is sooooo bad, why don’tyou just stop watching them ??? Thats whats laughable.

Be real here. The screenshots and trailers helped to collect about 2,5 millionen euros in one year. Seems like they did their job.
Seriously, do you think SMS would blame the community for uncreative work? How dumb would that be. Your idea about how a trailers must look like isn’t the guidline for everyone else.

It isn’t.

In fact I never said it was.

Typical tactic to put words into peoples mouths.

EVER HEARD OF CRITIQUING?

Its got at least 4 (5 if you include the ring) – 2 of which are 10km+ and reversible, the third is the mountain range and theres the Solitude Rennstreke. Theres also a good amount of smaller circuits.

Azure Coast…California HIghway are really cool and long (you can do it by stage) ; nordschleife is nice too…

hype works wonders tho matt. This title will sell well. Wii U needs a racer like this bad. A multiplat arcade racer with a pinch of sim. Lot’s of Need for speed fans are gonna go crazy for this. Hey the more units sold, the fanboys who invested in this will make their investment back at least. maybe.

Really?

Drives like a car that doesn’t move. No wheel anti correcting needed even on the edge. It drives better then a F1 car in the real. Boring.

there is also a long test track with different configuration called “hill-climb” ;)
Trust me I played Rfactor 2, LFS, NPKarPro, GPL, GTR1&2, Iracing….
And YES ! PCARS IS and WILL be a great simulator. With betifull graphic (hoooo sorry for that).
AND YES ! I’m also waiting Assetto Corsa too !!!
Stop trolling !!! come and RACE !!!

Have the SRT guys had a go at this simcade since saying way back that SMS need to be ashamed of themselves for the joke of a racer in Test Drive Ferrari? Darin said he was gonna think about doing a PCars segment eventually as the builds and title got to the halfway mark. Well it’s way past that.

SRY “trolling wasn’t especially for you ;)

you are talking about a car released 3 days ago in a pre alpha…
You seems to play the game and doesn’t like it ? so, sell your acount to me ;) no ? lol…

Ya I did say what I said. And many older cars feel easy to drive as well. All I hear is Pre Alpha. That is true, but rushed cars need not be. They all feel rushed.

Bathurst.

I understand that is probably placeholders on the physics side (is it?), but seeing that NFS Shift ‘floaty feel’ on the E30 video gives me the creeps. Hope the car on its final state gets truly accurate to its real counterpart

I’m agree this trailer of the M3 E30 on this long track doesn’t make a whish but I drive it since friday and I can tell you it’s more than drivable and fun to :) it’s very stiff with default setup, weight balance at braking is so reallistic.

There are different developpement phase for each car/track, those 2 are new one, that’s why we talk about it. But there are 3 patch released each week, each time, new add, content, export, liveries… I only paid 25€ it’s chrismas each week for me… even if I’m also waiting for assetto corsa (few videos, no demo, no beta no nothing, we are just waiting… with PCARS you see and test each advancement of the game, the work the achieve each day is amazing, really…

And the most important for me is the direction they whant the game to go : pure simulation ! you can see it in all the development threads.

Yes they did, and they gave it a more mature positive preview ( Pcars ), unlike their first one, which was a bit childish.

Physics, tires FFB and FFB are regularly updated, members can follow the development via the web site.
Recetly, there were updates on certains tires.
For the FFB, I personnaly have a G25 wheels. With the good settings (don’t forget tires force config), it’s great :)

Someone should tell the people that this community-funded game needs less people in the community having fun in this game and posting videos. Someone should tell them to be like Assetto Corsa and release screenshots at a trickle or just completely leave us in the dark for months at a time.

That’s what it means to be a True Hardcore Sim Racer!

You may hear “pre alpha” cause it is… but I was only talking about 2 new car wich will have new developement each week till the end.
The Lotus 49 cossworth is one of the most advanced car (beta 2), I don’t think you’ll find it “rushed :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4ma327hQr1w#!

Am the only one that doesn’t like PCars graphic?

However, it will be a great Sim-Arcade game(more arcade than sim’)!

haha I agree to an extent. I liked the first two vids of the BMWs. That 1991 M30 looks awesome! However, I am suffering from pCARS vid montage fatigue so the last vid did nothing for me.

Of course they didn´t release trailers by themself. But like the weekly screenshot galery “officiating” as official pCARS-sceenshots, SMS could do a monthly trailer show or so where best trailer are chosen (or doing it when it´s time for it). I mean, a trailer is a trailer, something that should show the best sides at a specific level. Several trailer showing the same sides of the same development progress feels a bit strange though.

Keep in mind how often you see trailers for other games….maybe two or three times till release.

I would prefer if people would care more about making videos of serious driving from which the game would benefit more, IMO.

D’oh doubly posts bad! :)

I prefer pCARS physics to its graphics. lol

I already wrote that I preferred rF2 graphics but no one thought I was serious… :/

Several thousand people are playing CARS, i’m sure several of them want to make videos. Does it really matter to you that much when all you really need to do is just not hit the play button?

No you’re certainly not alone.

Correct, the E30 is only a first export (along with the E92), so the physics are just ballpark figures, the car is untextured, has no liveries, and so on.

Damm these people are frustrating…. for the 1.025.200 times, this won’t be shift 3, so, stop judging something that you don’t even know or played yet. If guys like Nicolas Hamilton or Ben Collins tells me that this car behave as it should, and regarding their AWESOME participation to the SMS forum, I will believe them more than some bunch of hardcore simmers who never put their feet in a real racing car! Stop the easy judgement or at least wait that this game is released before to spit your venom/ lies on it!

yes, but at least in pCARS, we don’t cheat with a photomode that enhance the graphics just for the picture… in pCARS, what you see is what you get! big difference if you ask me.

Seems like most cars all sound the same still…

Well, you never stop hearing of it here.

Halfway is meaningless. You can’t even define halfway mark. Its a pointless thing to say. Who’s to say what will be concentrated on? I agree the handling needs to be a priority if your going to put it up against other sim demos, but the baseline physics still arn’t ready yet. They may decide to concentrate on the physics more towards the end….or they may not. A already said they’ll be developing these cars until right up to the end but if your core physics arn’t done then it doesn’t matter. They could do something that will knock the handling out from all the cars a two months from release and get it all back again handling really well on the day. Same with the sounds…it doesn’t really matter as long as its good on release.

I agree, the graphics feel ‘fuzzy’ to me and really lack the crystal clear polish and clarity of rfactor and even F1 2012. The shadows in particular seem very odd, like the whole thing apart from the cars needs a Full HD makeover.

Maybe someone should tell Kunos to be more like SMS and get something released for the punters to actually drive, lol.

At least SMS give this to their community, lol, instead of just releasing a few pics every now and again.

I like it. It is not glued to the track and I have to keep honest with my not overdriving it.

Bah! Even you know that the “arcade racer with a pinch of sim” statement is bullshit.

Reams of sour grapes from the haters as always. In the mean time the fun loving WMD sim racer crowd is having, well, fun. You guys should try it sometime :-p

“trailers” lol….indeed it is actually a movie Cars, Cars 2 and PCars

What has less grip to do with Shift 2´s floaty feeling. The BMW doesn´t feel anything like a car in Shift.

I can drive the car all out with 2 fingers and a thumb. easy as driving a beetle at 30mph. Lifeless ffb. barely a correction. Yet the newer BMW GT2 drives with less traction and feels like you got no rear wing. SMS is just all over the place with them cars. Graphics are fuzzy, not clear. Not impressed

I also prefer rF2 graphics on recent tracks and with their recent engine tweaks. Seems like they found a right art guy or something. It turns things other way around and suddenly it started to look better than pcars.
Better lighting, better car-paint shader, more detailed environment.
Also never liked those weird floating clouds in pcars. They are only looking realistic while they are dark at sunset.

We aren’t making a sim where the cars slide, we are making a simulator that represents real life.

That was also my motivation unfortunately I was disappointed, misunderstood and betrayed. Make it better than I. I would be happy If the goal can be achieved.

I did not write this just trying to see the reaction of this quote and I do not agree that would be the best approach IMO

Is it gonna be on Wii U? yes it is. No sim here friend. Try iRacing, rFactor, and even Simbins real sim in GTR2, and you’ll find no sim here. FACT. A multiplatform title to have nothing in common with PC only sims. A title the same across all platforms is a fact. Multiplat equals 1080p on pc’s and that it. So go ahead an BAH all you want. The facts don’t lie.

Who’s we? You? Me? No SMS. Real race cars do slide on the edge of corning and a lot of slamming the steering wheels is what you see in incar footage. Try again.

They are more then halfway, and I see very little improvements from last Oct when it made it a full year. Many cars still lose their rendering when driving away when the glass on the windows goes grayed out. So much to finish. Many tracks are still in WIP. A rushed dash it will be. I just hope they cancel their delivery time if they need the time to finish it half decent. Graphics are so grainy. I have the rig with a GTX 690 in it to run almost everything maxed at 2560 x 1440, and the graphics are foggy. The community pics are clean cause the frame is still. In motion and incockpit view, the graphics are not clean.

Man, that´s completely nonsense. How much do we bet that Assetto Corsa, GTR 2 or iRacing would run on a console? I mean, pCARS has the biggest hardware requirements of all those sims and can be ported to console with visual compromises, but nearly no concessions of the core game, why shouldn´t it be possible with the others? It´s mostly just a developer decision not to do it (maybe because financial ressources are not given, the audience is too small or there isn´t enough ability by the developers to handle consoles), but definitely not a fact that it isn´t possible.

A presumption by you like always.

Excuse me Birddogg66. I’m not quite sure what does it mean or what you want to tell me.

I understand the words but not the significance in this context.
You know i was never the best in english. Sorry again.

Well at least we know that all you play on your PC now is PCars. Thanks for giving that away. Only title you sound like you support. I support em all and yes even Pcars. Havaseat.

When it comes to sims, all I play for now is pCARS since RRRE and AC are not available yet. That does tell me what?

The notion that because pCARS will also be built for Wii U, it can’t be a sim is wrong. Like Big Ron says, there are absolutely no technical reasons for that.

BTW, I have tried all the sims you mention (as well as a lot of cars in real life, although no racing cars), and I can tell that even at this stage that pCARS is a full-on sim – not a finished and polished one yet, mind you, but there’s nothing “arcade” at all about this project. Arcade is a completely different genre.

I find it strange the way you continue to post utterly negatively about pCARS, then claim to be a supporter. I guess a development project isn’t really served well by “supporters” that mainly claim that it is no good and never can be…

Oh well, maybe you’ll be pleasantly surprised by the sim in the the end :-)

Well I know your just trolling but I would like to see what other people think of this quote I did not make it just looking for thoughts on this.

I just wanted to see how many people want glued to the track cars

Damn, you are just ridiculous! I like to see both sides of the story, but you really have to take the cake for living in a (sim) fantasy land. We need an ‘Ignore’ button here…

I am not even going to take the time to type a real rebuttal to your statements.

Ok thx.

no you’re right, PCARS is nice but not so fantastic. Just more than others sim.

You know what ATM I am at odds with the community and the direction of this title and have decided to step back, but I am doing it like a man and am not gonna live here trashing it because I realize it is not the end of the world that PCARS no longer works for me. Why not just let these people alone?

Listen here son. NOBODY’s trashing anything. If you see a game that will lead to the same ol rinse and repeat time and time again, as a paying customer and a person that has a say, or should have a say in the project, you speak up, or else then the developer will continue to think that mediocrasity is fine. You got to keep the developers informed and on their toes to produce better and better cause people that don’t give critism and negative thoughts are allowing the developers to continually take our money and give us mediocracity. So take a chill pill and swallow it and leave the people who wanna express they’re concerns the time and room to do it. hava nice day.

I have been voicing my opinions and being shot down by a community thay wants glued to the track cars I have been doing this for a month. I give up. When finally the M3 E30 is introduced into the game and had some character the physics lead turns around and says it needs more grip. I think I truely get it now and the direction of the title. If the majority wants this there is nothing I can do I did not have enough support on my side so plainly I just give up. I have tons of other things on my plate than to continue my arguements with what I consider a bunch of decent people who just want something different than me. So I leave them in peace I am not gonna continue to heckel them to death here. I think they deserve better than that.
I respect the fact your trying to voice your opinions but I think your doing it in the wrong way

I understand and I know that in the PCars community any negative backlash is ignored and spat upon. Your friend Big Ron I know who he is and I’ve seen the continual arguing and arguing he’s conjured upon people time and time again not just here. He’s not a big fan of many real individuals, and if he never invested the amount he did invest into Pcars, i’m sure he wouldn’t be talking like he does, nor do I think the big dogs at SMS would pay him any mind. So yes. We all know who Big Ron is, and to me he is a joke. Nothing more.

As for you trying to voice your opinion and no answer is given and being shot down, why do you think i’m voicing my opinions here and not there? Cause this site is basically as you can tell by the amount of post, a Pcars social site all together. It’s SMS’s other bastion to relish all the support given. Well I’m gonna use it to voice my personal opinions on a title I wanna say is a sim, but hell if I’m gonna lie and say it cause I’m some brown noser with a wad of dough up SMS’s backside. Nope i’m a senior, and i’m glad not a dime more was invested. Nether the less, I will fight to be heard and try to make em develop a title that I can respectably call a somewhat sim.

Out of arguments, so you try to insult me? Well done, speaks for your intelligence.

Well as I said I am done but in your defense I only saw one basicly neutral post from you in my Veterans Mode thread and have never had a problem with you Ron so in regards to be insulted(never from me) maybe just look at it as water under the bridge. All I can say is take care.

When I remember correct, I just replied once in your thread.

Nevertheless I also never had a problem and never felt insulted in any way rather seeing anything wrong with what´s going on after all.

“As for you trying to voice your opinion and no answer is given and being shot down,”

That was not what happened, and I’m not going to let you score free points based on twisting things. Birddog made a suggestion that was thoroughly discussed. The suggestion was of a nature that was opposed on logical grounds, and better solutions that would IMO achieve his goal were presented (no disrespect to Birddog, just so that is said, he’s a great guy). Nobody was “ignored and spat on”, as you say.

“Nether the less, I will fight to be heard and try to make em develop a title that I can respectably call a somewhat sim.”

And you do this by not posting on WMD where you can help, and instead just bash the sim and the community endlessly here. That doesn’t make much sense.You’re not helping anything or anybody, including yourself.

Also your fixed stance of pCARS having little hope of becoming “a somewhat sim” tells me that you are so far off the mark that your opinion is completely irrelevant. Add that to your contribution being non existent, and it just gets even more silly.

IDK Breakfast club was based in the area where I am from and my family has a long history in the Chicago area and since Emilio’s character shares my name and personality one could almost think they had me in mind when they created the character? LOL

Get over yourself. your just a little guy like the rest of us. Now you are just cementing and showing people more and more how insane you are over a VIDEO GAME. Grow up and move on. You’re comments are not the be ALL of the community.