Nicolas Hamilton Visits Slightly Mad Studios

Racing driver Nicolas Hamilton visited Slightly Mad Studios yesterday, continuing his efforts to help make Project CARS authentic simulation on the market.

Hamilton, brother of F1 world champion Lewis, joined Project CARS back in November last year, running a highly-productive weekly feedback blog in the WMD forums and interacting with the members ever since.

Together with the feedback from over 10.000 busy members and fellow real-life racer Ben Collins, Hamilton’s input has helped Slightly Mad Studios make vast physics development progress in a very short period of time. The endless stream of feedback has helped the introduction of the complex Seta tire model that is being improved and expanded ever since its introduction.

Since nothing beats some face-to-face communication, the ETCC driver recently me the SMS team in the company’s studio near London’s tower bridge.

A wide range of topics were discussed during the busy afternoon, including:

  • Driver hand animations when at full lock
  • Kart visual and physics inaccuracies
  • Handling when on astroturf
  • Tire temperatures during a Time Trial session
  • Freedom vs Realism in tuning setups
  • Atmosphere during different sessions (eg.. marshals, crowd, pit box life)
  • Tires – degradation, debris pickup, effect on handling
  • Driving School
  • Aquaplaning in the wet
  • Wind
  • Accuracy of some tracks

WMD members can find a much more extensive and detailed recap of the meeting in the forums here.

All others can enjoy some photos of the meeting below, more footage from Nicolas’ visit will be available soon!

Born in Herfordshire, England, in 1992, Nicolas Hamilton was brought up in the motorsports world alongside older brother Lewis. Born with Cerebral Palsy, Nicolas has always made sure this wouldn’t stop him from pursing his passion for racing.

After a first try of karting at the age of 7, Nicolas’ racing career kicked into higher gear in 2010 when he impressed everyone testing a BMW M3 at Palmer Sport. His smooth driving style earned him his MSA Novice Racing License and secured him a seat in the Air Asia Renault Clio Cup. In 2013, Hamilton moved onto the European Touring Car Cup, driving a SEAT León TFSI for Baporo Motorsport.

Project CARS is coming to the PC, Xbox 360, Playstation 3 and Wii U in 2014. More info can be found on the WMD website.

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  • Anonymous

    Nice to see developers having fun!

  • http://display.vracing.pl Gniewko Ostrowski

    ok, but why is he sitting on the car just like Mr Bean?

  • Anonymous

    Bonnet view…..*facepalm*

    • Anonymous

      Because having a steering wheel in front of a steering wheel is more realistic… yea right. The screen is about where the windshield is if you were sitting in a real car. Find myself using it in some cars these days.

      • Anonymous

        I don’t know what car u own. But I never have sat in this position ever in a real car. Are u against the roof with ur face against the windshield or something? In a real car u barrely see the bonnet when ur driving. I also don’t have a steering wheel in front my steering wheel because u can disable this. With a 3 screen setup it’s way more realstic then this view. The vantage point of this view is way off.

      • Anonymous

        I worry you’re going to run over a short pedestrian if you can’t even see your bonnet!
        Maybe you need to put a cushion or something on your seat to see in front of you properly :P

        Jokes aside, I think bonnet view makes sense for single screen users. In a game I just feel like my view is far more restricted and I need bonnet view to be comfortable.
        In my real car, I don’t feel this same restriction.

        Using the bonnet view makes me feel like the screen is my windscreen. I have the steering wheel in front of me and then the windscreen ahead of that.

        What would be cool IMO is to have the ingame camera placed in front of the steering wheel but in front of the windscreen. You can do this with seat adjustment, but it’s a problem when you try looking left/right.

        Of course cockpit + triple screens is the best setup but some of us have to settle with a single screen, unfortunately.

      • Anonymous

        Ur right. Back in the days when I was racing on a small single monitor I also prefered bonnet view. With a single monitor and cockpit view much of the imersion seems to be lost.

      • http://www.facebook.com/steve.shears.37 Steve Shears

        Not aimed at you Samuel, buy you can drive from anywhere in the cars. You guys know that right? Anywhere. Press CTRL K and move the cam and it’ll move the camera and lock for that event. IIRC you can even save it. You can move beyond the wheel and up to the wind-screen or even through it. Wherever you want. Then change the FOV to adjust to suit if you must. The ability to move seats is actually pointless.

    • Anonymous

      If the bonnet view is well made and the distance between sim-rig and monitor is right, then …… yes bonnet cam may be more realistic than cockpit view. *just my 2 cents*

      • Anonymous

        In a real car u barrely see the bonnet…cockpitview with good FOV is the best way to get a realistic view. Tripleheads makes this easier but even with 1 big screen its closer to real then a bonnet view.

      • Anonymous

        Yes FOV and also seat position matters, but if the view of the bonnet cam is more at position where the virtual windscreen is located, then it could be a more realistic view. Sadly most of the bonnet cams in sims are way to high.
        Otherwise there are too many cockpit drivers which are “driving from the backseat”. IMHO this is unrealistic too.

      • Anonymous

        I can’t agree more. Like with FSX (Flightsim) where u can make your view in the exact position where the windscreen would be.

      • Anonymous

        Depends on the car. A lot of modern touring cars and GTs have the driver so low and far back for weight distribution purposes their head is behind the b-pillar and the eyes are just barely above the dash.
        http://www.speedhunters.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/cp_chilton.jpg

        The ‘accurate bonnet cam’ in such a case is just a cockpit camera whose FOV is set such that the edges of the monitor lay where the edges of the windscreen are. But I don’t think that’s people’s intent behind using a bonnet camera, they’re looking for a less obstructed view of the road (feel free to correct me if I’m wrong).

      • http://virtualr.net/ F1Racer

        Agreed !

  • Anonymous

    Bonnet cam, and laggy HDtv… Not the best way to test a “SIM”.

    • Anonymous

      I couldn’t have said it better. This is some livingroom setup for a nice party with friends. Not a good testing setup to get some good results that can be worked on. Makes me think about the quality of the rest of the product….*being carefull saying anything bout pCars* EDIT: Just joking.

    • Alan Dallas

      Laggy HDTV my butt… you should learn to educate yourself before
      spouting fallacies. Your statement right there made your whole comment
      invalid. Man I hate that old ass uneducated argument.

      Just to set you strait, I don’t know what POS HDTV you’ve used on a PC but all modern HDTV’s since 2006 that connect via HDMI v1.3 or higher(v1.4) use the pure digital signal from the video source. No one’s even manufactured a LCD HDTV with >5ms GTG in just as many years(lowered for anti-ghosting). Lag only happened when the signal [for legacy purposes] had to be ran through a DAC and back again. Post processing from the Tuner is turned off also when an HDMI source is selected by default on modern HDTV’s. Basically it turns the TV into a Monitor that runs it at the TV’s native refresh rate or as set by the video cards drivers. No less than 60Hz for a bottom of the line HDTV. Don’t forget an HDTV is just a glorified Computer monitor. If you have one older than that then sure… I can see why you think the way you do.

      • Anonymous

        Well said. I use a 50″ DLP TV for my setup, and I love it. Granted, I would rather use a triple screen setup, but there are other considerations preventing that…

    • http://virtualr.net/ F1Racer

      Bonnet cam is a more realistic view than cockpit view in some cases. Depends on your FOV and monitor distance.

  • Anonymous

    Some people are just too much I swear. I think they have a problem seeing people enjoying themselves. I am mind blown over the amount of negativity over a couple of photos of people smiling and enjoying themselves. Very Sad indeed!!!!

    • Anonymous

      Ya okay that might have been a little harsh because the comments up to this point were not real bad but it’s just the fact your just looking for negative things to post. I might just start to think that some are overly negative people. I for one try to be an optimist as best as possible and I really did not see anything negative with these photos.

      • Anonymous

        It isn’t just a bunch of photo’s of guys who are having fun. U know just as good as I know that they use this to make their product more truthful towards real racing. They use this to say: “Look we had help of real race driver so it is gonna be super realistic” It is been mentioned in the article.

        “Hamilton’s input has helped Slightly Mad Studios make vast physics development progress in a very short period of time. ”

        If this feedback has been given based on a laggy HDTV and bonnet view experience it should be questioned. And that is where critism is pointed at. But there is nothing wrong with a bunch of ppl that have some fun. But then the article should just have said just that and not pretend that this was a serious testing visit of a real racing driver.

      • Anonymous

        I agree that it’s not optimal for the ultimate physics and FFB tweaks, but even if the monitor was a bit laggy (the guys surely know about it and compensate when making their points, they’re not exactly noobs), it doesn’t preclude having a serious, as well as fun(!), session. As can be seen here:
        http://forum.wmdportal.com/showthread.php?14881-Suggested-Game-Design-Improvements-discussion-(From-Nic-s-Visit-thread)
        there was a lot of (serious) points discussed that doesn’t rely on the last milliseconds of display lag.

      • MH

        This was only a visit – a photo of him behind the wheel with the devs.
        All his testing and feedback has been done from his own home so far…
        This particular setup has nothing to do with what information he gives
        to SMS.

      • Anonymous

        It was the WMD community that asked for the photos to be taken of the crew for the WMD communities benefit and they were posted in the forum. Just so happens our good man here that runs the virtualr site thought that the followers here might enjoy this and is the only intent and to show a more personable image of the SMS team. Just like we get of Kunos and their visitors. As for me I enjoy seeing this type stuff. Next up the ISI team. Oh and I’ll see if I can get a desk set up for you in the studio so you can first handedly give us your true opinion on the performance of the rig they are using and if you had seen all the photos you would know this is not the only rig there.

      • Anonymous

        “If this feedback has been given based on a laggy HDTV and bonnet view experience it should be questioned.” I have a Cheap HDTV, it isn’t laggy, it is the best monitor I’ve ever had in 20 years. Now’ll you’ll want to argue that no doubt. And again, their is nothing wrong with bonnet view. Probably the most realistic view on a single monitor. And why would any body jump to the conclusion that the pictures or the visit, represent the sum of Hamilton’s testing? I’ll tell you who. Only those looking to cast doubt on the article and pCars. That’s who.

      • Roger Wallentin

        Samsungs 8k series are not really “laggy” displays if they are setup properly.

        They have a “Game mode” that you can configure on the HDMI/DVI1 input which bypasses as post processing which causes lag on HDTV sets. With this on there is virtually no lag at all, it acts as a normal LCD display.

        They also produce some amazing 3D, im really happy to see that they are using it to run pCars in 3D! That is a part that really needs some more work before its finished (since a few builds pCars is actually drivable in 3D but as i said, needs more work)

      • Anonymous

        The 3D should hopefully be taking a few steps forward soon, hand in hand with the Oculus Rift support. I believe there’s a fair amount of 3D support from Shift 2 that’s currently disabled, but I might be wrong or it might be insufficient.

      • Roger Wallentin

        3D has indeed taken a big step recently, now I can drive in 3D without my eyes hurting but there are still artifacts even with shadows, bloom and specular disabled. It appears some items are rendered 3 times in some strange way, shadows on railings etc appears faint but strange.

        My Oculus Rift dev kit is in transit and arrives on Monday :D

        Cant wait for pCars to support it! Will need to start investigating these 3rd party “emulators/drivers” that enables the rift to work with existing titles meanwhile.

  • Anonymous

    Gee, they’re just posing for some pictures. Get over your selves, and your whole , “I know more then the Devs and the professional race car drivers, and should be the one “chosen”!”

    • Anonymous

      Not just posting pics if you read the whole article. They say that useful feedback is generated with this meeting. Nothing wrong for the community to question this feedback based on what they see on the pics. Nobody is saying that they know better.

      • Anonymous

        It should be noted that they didn’t only discuss physics issues. There are many other areas of feedback (ref. posting below).

        For those not reading the WMD forums, here’s a shortlist of issues they discussed: driver animations, karts, racing atmosphere, cockpit experience, pits, track debris & tires, driving school, wind & rain, tuning setups, tracks.

        This session was obviously a nice get together and brain storming. The countless hours of physics testing is probably best done (and being done!) in a different setting :)

      • Anonymous

        I haven’t got the time to follow all forums. Thank you for answering some questions that came up reading this article.

      • Alan Dallas

        Don’t have time? Or don’t have access? Methinks the later.

      • Anonymous

        He did say follow all forums and was not referring to the WMD forum Me Thinks.

      • Alan Dallas

        Ahh OK. Was confused if he meant WMD or not. I was going to point him to the Quick link to all the Dev posts. Which is handy for seeing what they’re currently talking about or working on.

      • Anonymous

        I’ll answer the main one for you. It’s a good project with a dedicated development team and dedicated community. Simple as that.
        Take Care :)

      • Anonymous

        “nothing wrong with the community question” (criticizing) on what they see in obviously posed media pictures ” Yah, well, if your 12 yrs. old maybe. Hamilton test’s pCars on his own rig. And if he prefers bonnet view, so what. Many professional race drivers who use Sims. Do prefer bonnet view. It’s the attitude that makes it sound like people are saying, “they know better”. Further more they discuss the game all the time on the forum with Hamilton.

      • Anonymous

        Questioning is a beautiful thing. It is the one thing that set us humans apart from other animals. We have the power to question things in life. It’s other ppl that make a big fuzz out of it. I enjoy to seek answers. And if somebody can provide good logical (no fanboy) answer I am happy. Modern Times2 provided some of the answers and that’s nice. It’s that simple no reason to make this bigger than it is.

  • Gulyás Tamás

    Honestly, who cares …

    • punkfest2000

      I do.

    • C4

      Most interesting pCars-related news in a while!

    • Nicolas Grignon

      I do too, between you and a real pilot very into this project (Nicolas proved with his numerous posts that it’s not really a question of PR and money, the guy seems genuinely interested to make pCARS a realistic simulator), I will of course follow the REAL pilot and his experience.

    • Anonymous

      Sim racers usually care when real, current race drivers are testing sims and provided deep feedback. Ben Collins (The Stig) is also provided consistent feedback.

      More importantly, your comment was useless.

  • Anonymous

    Sweet RaceRoom cockpit.

  • Anonymous

    He’s good at sim racing I’ve heard, but not so good at the rael thing.

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