Comments on: Need for Speed Shift – The Realism Discussion Continues… http://www.virtualr.net/need-for-speed-shift-the-realism-discussion-continues 100% Sim Racing News Fri, 25 May 2012 05:14:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: smashingpunk007 http://www.virtualr.net/need-for-speed-shift-the-realism-discussion-continues/comment-page-1#comment-25850 smashingpunk007 Fri, 28 Aug 2009 03:16:03 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=5263#comment-25850 Funny how a lot of the people hating on this game have now shut up after these videos were shown, but they sure as hell come out of the woodwork to discuss the negative aspects of it.Trolls anyone? Anyways, Thanks for the post and the video Alan, the demo should be fun :D. Hope it includes more than 1 car and track. Funny how a lot of the people hating on this game have now shut up after these videos were shown, but they sure as hell come out of the woodwork to discuss the negative aspects of it.Trolls anyone? Anyways, Thanks for the post and the video Alan, the demo should be fun :D. Hope it includes more than 1 car and track.

]]> By: Mojo66 http://www.virtualr.net/need-for-speed-shift-the-realism-discussion-continues/comment-page-1#comment-25793 Mojo66 Thu, 27 Aug 2009 11:30:53 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=5263#comment-25793 Well the graphics look stunning, and the amount of detail they've put into the tracks is overwhelming, even to a degree where, at least on the Nordschleife, they added so many fictional ad boards and banners, that they forgot to add the freaking CASTLE!!!! Well the graphics look stunning, and the amount of detail they’ve put into the tracks is overwhelming, even to a degree where, at least on the Nordschleife, they added so many fictional ad boards and banners, that they forgot to add the freaking CASTLE!!!!

]]> By: Alan Boiston http://www.virtualr.net/need-for-speed-shift-the-realism-discussion-continues/comment-page-1#comment-25752 Alan Boiston Wed, 26 Aug 2009 22:23:52 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=5263#comment-25752 Hey Guys, Glad you liked the Nurburgring video, only had limited time on the game so had to try 1 lap with all assists off. Yes under braking I was surprised just how quickly the car went away from me, it was very hard getting any kind of feel of traction on the PS3 pad, would much rather test a wheel. Sorry about the Facebook video, I will get a VVV Gamer video sorted out for the site soon. ;) Hey Guys, Glad you liked the Nurburgring video, only had limited time on the game so had to try 1 lap with all assists off. Yes under braking I was surprised just how quickly the car went away from me, it was very hard getting any kind of feel of traction on the PS3 pad, would much rather test a wheel.

Sorry about the Facebook video, I will get a VVV Gamer video sorted out for the site soon. ;)

]]> By: Disposable_Hero http://www.virtualr.net/need-for-speed-shift-the-realism-discussion-continues/comment-page-1#comment-25748 Disposable_Hero Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:17:58 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=5263#comment-25748 Well, that Nordschleife video proved PC Games to be wrong: you actually can spin a car in NFS if you lock your brakes and turn the wheel :sd: <blockquote cite="comment-25727"> <strong><a href="#comment-25727" rel="nofollow">Skillcoil</a></strong>: Nice video. I like it. Cant wait to see “Need for Speed Shift - Demo Released” /dreaming </blockquote> Me too Well, that Nordschleife video proved PC Games to be wrong: you actually can spin a car in NFS if you lock your brakes and turn the wheel :sd:

Skillcoil:
Nice video. I like it.
Cant wait to see “Need for Speed Shift – Demo Released” /dreaming

Me too

]]> By: ermax18 http://www.virtualr.net/need-for-speed-shift-the-realism-discussion-continues/comment-page-1#comment-25742 ermax18 Wed, 26 Aug 2009 20:26:32 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=5263#comment-25742 <blockquote cite="comment-25733"> <strong><a href="#comment-25733" rel="nofollow">gtrNL</a></strong>: Also, no GMotor game allows you change the wheel animation above 270. And my guess is that this game won’t allow that either (most don’t even allow you change it at all). </blockquote> You can set rFactor to what ever you want. No arms though. Controller.ini [ General Controls ] Steering Wheel Range="900"

gtrNL:

Also, no GMotor game allows you change the wheel animation above 270. And my guess is that this game won’t allow that either (most don’t even allow you change it at all).

You can set rFactor to what ever you want. No arms though.

Controller.ini

[ General Controls ]
Steering Wheel Range=”900″

]]> By: Raikku http://www.virtualr.net/need-for-speed-shift-the-realism-discussion-continues/comment-page-1#comment-25741 Raikku Wed, 26 Aug 2009 20:21:16 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=5263#comment-25741 Isn't rFactor gmotor? In rF you can change ingame wheel's rotation to whatever you like, I have it in 540 degrees, 'cause that's what I use for all sims in my G25. And GTR2 automatically recognize your wheel's rotation, so it's always 1:1 Isn’t rFactor gmotor? In rF you can change ingame wheel’s rotation to whatever you like, I have it in 540 degrees, ’cause that’s what I use for all sims in my G25.

And GTR2 automatically recognize your wheel’s rotation, so it’s always 1:1

]]> By: Couth http://www.virtualr.net/need-for-speed-shift-the-realism-discussion-continues/comment-page-1#comment-25738 Couth Wed, 26 Aug 2009 19:48:14 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=5263#comment-25738 The Nurburgring ring one is the PS3 version. it actually looks pretty good I expected the PC version to trounce the consoles The Nurburgring ring one is the PS3 version. it actually looks pretty good I expected the PC version to trounce the consoles

]]> By: Jonas http://www.virtualr.net/need-for-speed-shift-the-realism-discussion-continues/comment-page-1#comment-25737 Jonas Wed, 26 Aug 2009 19:45:02 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=5263#comment-25737 <blockquote cite="comment-25722"> <strong><a href="#comment-25722" rel="nofollow">19Kilo</a></strong>: What’s with all the billboards, flags, and other misc ads everywhere? 90% of all that crap shown in the videos isn’t there in real life. Not that I’m expecting total realism from this game, but wow the tracks look horrible like that That said, the actual driving looks like fun and a big step up from previous NFS games. I’ll at least give it a rent if I don’t buy. </blockquote> totally agree, those ads look really awful

19Kilo: What’s with all the billboards, flags, and other misc ads everywhere? 90% of all that crap shown in the videos isn’t there in real life. Not that I’m expecting total realism from this game, but wow the tracks look horrible like that That said, the actual driving looks like fun and a big step up from previous NFS games. I’ll at least give it a rent if I don’t buy.

totally agree, those ads look really awful

]]> By: carbonfibre http://www.virtualr.net/need-for-speed-shift-the-realism-discussion-continues/comment-page-1#comment-25734 carbonfibre Wed, 26 Aug 2009 19:29:31 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=5263#comment-25734 He actually spun out under braking and accelerating over kerbs! :grin: Using their "creative license" excuse, I'd rather see an animated fairground on every track than have fake banners spoiling the road surface. Have no fear though, something tells me those simple textures will be modded out very shortly after release of the full game. :sd: He actually spun out under braking and accelerating over kerbs! :grin:

Using their “creative license” excuse, I’d rather see an animated fairground on every track than have fake banners spoiling the road surface. Have no fear though, something tells me those simple textures will be modded out very shortly after release of the full game. :sd:

]]> By: gtrNL http://www.virtualr.net/need-for-speed-shift-the-realism-discussion-continues/comment-page-1#comment-25733 gtrNL Wed, 26 Aug 2009 19:17:01 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=5263#comment-25733 <blockquote cite="comment-25730"> <strong><a href="#comment-25730" rel="nofollow">Jos</a></strong>: As far as I know the only sims with full arm animations are LFS and Project Torque. </blockquote> LfS is very good on the steering wheel but has no shift animation. Also, no GMotor game allows you change the wheel animation above 270. And my guess is that this game won't allow that either (most don't even allow you change it at all). Judging from the video's (finally we see the pro mode) I have to say I'm sort of looking forward to it. Hope to see the demo soon.

Jos:
As far as I know the only sims with full arm animations are LFS and Project Torque.

LfS is very good on the steering wheel but has no shift animation.

Also, no GMotor game allows you change the wheel animation above 270. And my guess is that this game won’t allow that either (most don’t even allow you change it at all).

Judging from the video’s (finally we see the pro mode) I have to say I’m sort of looking forward to it. Hope to see the demo soon.

]]> By: Jos http://www.virtualr.net/need-for-speed-shift-the-realism-discussion-continues/comment-page-1#comment-25730 Jos Wed, 26 Aug 2009 18:50:44 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=5263#comment-25730 As far as I know the only sims with full arm animations are LFS and Project Torque. btw, did you guys notice the swinging boat on Spa, friggin hilarious! <blockquote cite="comment-25728"> <strong><a href="#comment-25728" rel="nofollow">AeroMechanical</a></strong>: Looks very good. If you were comparing it to GTR2 it would, and definitely should, be more predictable and easier to drive most of the time. That has been the result of the progression in sim realism since then. Those videos look pretty good to me. Hopefully there will be a variable, like GTR2, to adjust the wheel rotation to match your wheel. It’s possible they don’t have the full rotation arm animations though, which is probably likely if by default you can’t go beyond however many degrees. Did GTL have full arm animations? I didn’t have a 900 degree wheel the last time I played it. Maybe we can turn the hands off. I can only imagine the PC version will be much more customizable than the console versions. I have a lot of hope for Shift. The thing I still put the most faith in is the AutoSimSport interview with Ian Bell. Can’t know until we try it of course. :) Yeah, where’s that demo already? </blockquote> As far as I know the only sims with full arm animations are LFS and Project Torque.

btw, did you guys notice the swinging boat on Spa, friggin hilarious!

AeroMechanical:
Looks very good. If you were comparing it to GTR2 it would, and definitely should, be more predictable and easier to drive most of the time. That has been the result of the progression in sim realism since then.
Those videos look pretty good to me.
Hopefully there will be a variable, like GTR2, to adjust the wheel rotation to match your wheel. It’s possible they don’t have the full rotation arm animations though, which is probably likely if by default you can’t go beyond however many degrees. Did GTL have full arm animations? I didn’t have a 900 degree wheel the last time I played it. Maybe we can turn the hands off. I can only imagine the PC version will be much more customizable than the console versions.
I have a lot of hope for Shift. The thing I still put the most faith in is the AutoSimSport interview with Ian Bell. Can’t know until we try it of course. :)
Yeah, where’s that demo already?

]]> By: Gaiajohan http://www.virtualr.net/need-for-speed-shift-the-realism-discussion-continues/comment-page-1#comment-25729 Gaiajohan Wed, 26 Aug 2009 18:36:45 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=5263#comment-25729 Looks very good, but why the car dials get fuzzy at higher speeds :s Looks very good, but why the car dials get fuzzy at higher speeds :s

]]> By: AeroMechanical http://www.virtualr.net/need-for-speed-shift-the-realism-discussion-continues/comment-page-1#comment-25728 AeroMechanical Wed, 26 Aug 2009 18:30:42 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=5263#comment-25728 Looks very good. If you were comparing it to GTR2 it would, and definitely should, be more predictable and easier to drive most of the time. That has been the result of the progression in sim realism since then. Those videos look pretty good to me. Hopefully there will be a variable, like GTR2, to adjust the wheel rotation to match your wheel. It's possible they don't have the full rotation arm animations though, which is probably likely if by default you can't go beyond however many degrees. Did GTL have full arm animations? I didn't have a 900 degree wheel the last time I played it. Maybe we can turn the hands off. I can only imagine the PC version will be much more customizable than the console versions. I have a lot of hope for Shift. The thing I still put the most faith in is the AutoSimSport interview with Ian Bell. Can't know until we try it of course. :) Yeah, where's that demo already? Looks very good. If you were comparing it to GTR2 it would, and definitely should, be more predictable and easier to drive most of the time. That has been the result of the progression in sim realism since then.

Those videos look pretty good to me.

Hopefully there will be a variable, like GTR2, to adjust the wheel rotation to match your wheel. It’s possible they don’t have the full rotation arm animations though, which is probably likely if by default you can’t go beyond however many degrees. Did GTL have full arm animations? I didn’t have a 900 degree wheel the last time I played it. Maybe we can turn the hands off. I can only imagine the PC version will be much more customizable than the console versions.

I have a lot of hope for Shift. The thing I still put the most faith in is the AutoSimSport interview with Ian Bell. Can’t know until we try it of course. :)

Yeah, where’s that demo already?

]]> By: Skillcoil http://www.virtualr.net/need-for-speed-shift-the-realism-discussion-continues/comment-page-1#comment-25727 Skillcoil Wed, 26 Aug 2009 18:26:32 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=5263#comment-25727 Nice video. I like it. Cant wait to see "Need for Speed Shift - Demo Released" /dreaming :cool: :cool: Nice video. I like it.

Cant wait to see “Need for Speed Shift – Demo Released” /dreaming :cool: :cool:

]]> By: 19Kilo http://www.virtualr.net/need-for-speed-shift-the-realism-discussion-continues/comment-page-1#comment-25722 19Kilo Wed, 26 Aug 2009 18:04:57 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=5263#comment-25722 What's with all the billboards, flags, and other misc ads everywhere? 90% of all that crap shown in the videos isn't there in real life. Not that I'm expecting total realism from this game, but wow the tracks look horrible like that :sad2: That said, the actual driving looks like fun and a big step up from previous NFS games. I'll at least give it a rent if I don't buy. What’s with all the billboards, flags, and other misc ads everywhere? 90% of all that crap shown in the videos isn’t there in real life. Not that I’m expecting total realism from this game, but wow the tracks look horrible like that :sad2: That said, the actual driving looks like fun and a big step up from previous NFS games. I’ll at least give it a rent if I don’t buy.

]]> By: Raikku http://www.virtualr.net/need-for-speed-shift-the-realism-discussion-continues/comment-page-1#comment-25720 Raikku Wed, 26 Aug 2009 17:27:42 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=5263#comment-25720 Logging to FB? Who on earth use FB? Never! I rather die than join to FB. Logging to FB? Who on earth use FB? Never! I rather die than join to FB.

]]> By: TomHolland http://www.virtualr.net/need-for-speed-shift-the-realism-discussion-continues/comment-page-1#comment-25719 TomHolland Wed, 26 Aug 2009 17:25:40 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=5263#comment-25719 Getting pretty excited about Shift. :happy: <blockquote cite="comment-25711"> <strong><a href="#comment-25711" rel="nofollow">F1Racer</a></strong>: I cant see the Nordschliefe video in either Firefox or Internet Explorer. I have updated Flash on both browswers and still they tell me I dont have the latest version. Strange cos all the other videos on here work fine. Sometimes computers are just mental. </blockquote> It's a Facebook video, try logging into Facebook first. Might work. :grin: Getting pretty excited about Shift. :happy:

F1Racer:
I cant see the Nordschliefe video in either Firefox or Internet Explorer.
I have updated Flash on both browswers and still they tell me I dont have the latest version.
Strange cos all the other videos on here work fine.
Sometimes computers are just mental.

It’s a Facebook video, try logging into Facebook first. Might work. :grin:

]]> By: lukasz http://www.virtualr.net/need-for-speed-shift-the-realism-discussion-continues/comment-page-1#comment-25717 lukasz Wed, 26 Aug 2009 17:13:43 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=5263#comment-25717 Nice vid! Looks interesting. I want DEMOOOOOOOOOOOO Nice vid! Looks interesting.
I want DEMOOOOOOOOOOOO

]]> By: logos http://www.virtualr.net/need-for-speed-shift-the-realism-discussion-continues/comment-page-1#comment-25716 logos Wed, 26 Aug 2009 17:12:34 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=5263#comment-25716 This video also shows pretty decent driving around Spa (without driving aids): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTX-OfgfSlU As I understand from the italian forum, where it's posted, the guy behind the wheel is very good sim racer, and also races for real. :happy: The Laguna Seca video, posted here is theirs, and they promise to post videos with other tracks. This video also shows pretty decent driving around Spa (without driving aids):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTX-OfgfSlU

As I understand from the italian forum, where it’s posted, the guy behind the wheel is very good sim racer, and also races for real. :happy:

The Laguna Seca video, posted here is theirs, and they promise to post videos with other tracks.

]]> By: F1Racer http://www.virtualr.net/need-for-speed-shift-the-realism-discussion-continues/comment-page-1#comment-25711 F1Racer Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:34:34 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=5263#comment-25711 I cant see the Nordschliefe video in either Firefox or Internet Explorer. I have updated Flash on both browswers and still they tell me I dont have the latest version. Strange cos all the other videos on here work fine. Sometimes computers are just mental. I cant see the Nordschliefe video in either Firefox or Internet Explorer.
I have updated Flash on both browswers and still they tell me I dont have the latest version.
Strange cos all the other videos on here work fine.
Sometimes computers are just mental.

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