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	<title>Comments on: Need for Speed Shift &#8211; Nissan Skyline 2000 Previews</title>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/need-for-speed-shift-nissan-skyline-2000-previews/comment-page-1#comment-24338</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 08:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-24329&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-24329&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;moppenheimer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: 
ok you got me there, but using an fov that large enough to make the front stretch at laguna look flat is stupid….or it really is shitty track modeling
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Not that easy ;)

If you look back at that image, you can imagine that even though on all images it is the same distance to the top of the hill, on the one with the largest FOV it looks longer. Therefore in game you ( brain) think your car is traveling faster (sense of speed).

So although you want a low FOV for realness (distance/steepness/etc.), you need a large FOV for sense of speed and there lie the problems that most racing game developers have. Luckily for us, most SIM have an adjustable FOV setting ;)</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-24329" rel="nofollow">moppenheimer</a></strong>:<br />
ok you got me there, but using an fov that large enough to make the front stretch at laguna look flat is stupid….or it really is shitty track modeling
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<p>Not that easy ;)</p>
<p>If you look back at that image, you can imagine that even though on all images it is the same distance to the top of the hill, on the one with the largest FOV it looks longer. Therefore in game you ( brain) think your car is traveling faster (sense of speed).</p>
<p>So although you want a low FOV for realness (distance/steepness/etc.), you need a large FOV for sense of speed and there lie the problems that most racing game developers have. Luckily for us, most SIM have an adjustable FOV setting ;)</p>
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		<title>By: DW</title>
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		<dc:creator>DW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 08:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-24327&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Damo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: 
It seems Ian Bell(end) has sold out on true nitty-gritty ’simness’ in order for some big bucks in the states courtesy of EA and console gamers.

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Lets be fair - I think all of us would opt for some big bucks given the chance, especially when the alternative is bankrupcy.  Welcome to the real world  :lol:</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-24327" rel="nofollow">Damo</a></strong>:<br />
It seems Ian Bell(end) has sold out on true nitty-gritty ’simness’ in order for some big bucks in the states courtesy of EA and console gamers.</p>
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<p>Lets be fair &#8211; I think all of us would opt for some big bucks given the chance, especially when the alternative is bankrupcy.  Welcome to the real world  <img src='http://www.virtualr.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: moppenheimer</title>
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		<dc:creator>moppenheimer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 06:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-24320&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-24320&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mark&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: 
Oldie but image still works ;)Same situation, just fov 50-100-150&lt;a href=&quot;http://i31.tinypic.com/33ni2z6.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://i31.tinypic.com/33ni2z6.jpg&lt;/A&gt;\
If you do not know the FOV used,m it is almost impossible to say something sensible about the steepness.
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ok you got me there, but using an fov that large enough to make the front stretch at laguna look flat is stupid....or it really is shitty track modeling</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-24320" rel="nofollow">Mark</a></strong>:<br />
Oldie but image still works ;)Same situation, just fov 50-100-150<a href="http://i31.tinypic.com/33ni2z6.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://i31.tinypic.com/33ni2z6.jpg</a>\<br />
If you do not know the FOV used,m it is almost impossible to say something sensible about the steepness.
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<p>ok you got me there, but using an fov that large enough to make the front stretch at laguna look flat is stupid&#8230;.or it really is shitty track modeling</p>
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		<title>By: Damo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 01:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As great as it looks, it won&#039;t be a proper Sim and that&#039;s what&#039;s disappointing.

It seems Ian Bell(end) has sold out on true nitty-gritty &#039;simness&#039; in order for some big bucks in the states courtesy of EA and console gamers.

I have my fingers crossed that it will play at least half as good as it looks, but don&#039;t get your hopes up for sheer realism in the physics / features department.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As great as it looks, it won&#8217;t be a proper Sim and that&#8217;s what&#8217;s disappointing.</p>
<p>It seems Ian Bell(end) has sold out on true nitty-gritty &#8216;simness&#8217; in order for some big bucks in the states courtesy of EA and console gamers.</p>
<p>I have my fingers crossed that it will play at least half as good as it looks, but don&#8217;t get your hopes up for sheer realism in the physics / features department.</p>
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		<title>By: f0xx</title>
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		<dc:creator>f0xx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 23:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking Great!</description>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 22:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-24310&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-24310&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;moppenheimer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: 
are you kidding me? uoy can certainly tell how steep it is in the screens, it is no where near steep enough….
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Oldie but image still works ;)
Same situation, just fov 50-100-150
http://i31.tinypic.com/33ni2z6.jpg\

If you do not know the FOV used,m it is almost impossible to say something sensible about the steepness.</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-24310" rel="nofollow">moppenheimer</a></strong>:<br />
are you kidding me? uoy can certainly tell how steep it is in the screens, it is no where near steep enough….
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<p>Oldie but image still works ;)<br />
Same situation, just fov 50-100-150<br />
<a href="http://i31.tinypic.com/33ni2z6.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://i31.tinypic.com/33ni2z6.jpg</a>\</p>
<p>If you do not know the FOV used,m it is almost impossible to say something sensible about the steepness.</p>
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		<title>By: DW</title>
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		<dc:creator>DW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 21:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-24310&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-24310&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;moppenheimer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: 
are you kidding me? uoy can certainly tell how steep it is in the screens, it is no where near steep enough….
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No he&#039;s not and no you can&#039;t :)

It all depends on the FOV used by the camera in the sim.  A wide FOV makes slopes look less steep.</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-24310" rel="nofollow">moppenheimer</a></strong>:<br />
are you kidding me? uoy can certainly tell how steep it is in the screens, it is no where near steep enough….
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<p>No he&#8217;s not and no you can&#8217;t :)</p>
<p>It all depends on the FOV used by the camera in the sim.  A wide FOV makes slopes look less steep.</p>
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		<title>By: moppenheimer</title>
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		<dc:creator>moppenheimer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 20:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-24246&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Howie47&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: 
Very Funny. There is no way anybody can ascertain the steepness of a hill from a screen shot like that. Are you just looking for criticisms?  
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are you kidding me? uoy can certainly tell how steep it is in the screens, it is no where near steep enough....</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-24246" rel="nofollow">Howie47</a></strong>:<br />
Very Funny. There is no way anybody can ascertain the steepness of a hill from a screen shot like that. Are you just looking for criticisms?
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<p>are you kidding me? uoy can certainly tell how steep it is in the screens, it is no where near steep enough&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Sensekhmet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sensekhmet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 19:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-24295&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;DW&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: 
Well I’ve built my new PC.  EA you can release the demo now :D

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 :sd:</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-24295" rel="nofollow">DW</a></strong>:<br />
Well I’ve built my new PC.  EA you can release the demo now :D</p>
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<p> <img src='http://www.virtualr.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif' alt=':sd:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: DW</title>
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		<dc:creator>DW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 17:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I&#039;ve built my new PC.  EA you can release the demo now :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I&#8217;ve built my new PC.  EA you can release the demo now :D</p>
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		<title>By: Sensekhmet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sensekhmet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 09:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually thought at first image 6 is a photograph. :eek:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually thought at first image 6 is a photograph. <img src='http://www.virtualr.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif' alt=':eek:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Firestarter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Firestarter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 08:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The car looks so real in image 6.</description>
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		<title>By: Zenitchik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zenitchik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 23:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will there be a demo?</description>
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		<title>By: F1Racer</title>
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		<dc:creator>F1Racer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 23:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great shots, especially that interior.  But man, this is getting annoying !  :happyevil:</description>
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		<title>By: a1gpmatty</title>
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		<dc:creator>a1gpmatty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 22:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>image 6 is definitely donington park. You can see the donington park logo in a blur in the background</description>
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		<title>By: Howie47</title>
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		<dc:creator>Howie47</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 22:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-24240&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;trebor901&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: look at one of the interior shots, its the start straight at Laguna Seca, no where near steep enough
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Very Funny. There is no way anybody can ascertain the steepness of a hill from a screen shot like that. Are you just looking for criticisms? :roll:</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-24240" rel="nofollow">trebor901</a></strong>: look at one of the interior shots, its the start straight at Laguna Seca, no where near steep enough
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<p>Very Funny. There is no way anybody can ascertain the steepness of a hill from a screen shot like that. Are you just looking for criticisms? <img src='http://www.virtualr.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jack_NL</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack_NL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 22:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear SimGod, God of Sims

Please lead the people of E.A and S.M.S to the right path 
to create a good Sim for us humble Simracers

and Curse the one&#039;s that think Pitstops are not important 
and having 16 cars online is enough.

Amen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear SimGod, God of Sims</p>
<p>Please lead the people of E.A and S.M.S to the right path<br />
to create a good Sim for us humble Simracers</p>
<p>and Curse the one&#8217;s that think Pitstops are not important<br />
and having 16 cars online is enough.</p>
<p>Amen</p>
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		<title>By: trebor901</title>
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		<dc:creator>trebor901</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 21:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>look at one of the interior shots, its the start straight at Laguna Seca, no where near steep enough</description>
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		<title>By: Floptickle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Floptickle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 20:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d say give me a demo, please :P</description>
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		<title>By: Dillyracer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dillyracer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 20:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Best looking PC racegame at the moment I&#039;d say.</description>
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