Comments on: Need for Speed Shift – New Gameplay Videos http://www.virtualr.net/need-for-speed-shift-new-gameplay-videos/ 100% Sim Racing News Fri, 19 Mar 2010 00:18:57 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: dadada1 http://www.virtualr.net/need-for-speed-shift-new-gameplay-videos/comment-page-1/#comment-20843 dadada1 Thu, 04 Jun 2009 16:55:07 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=3791#comment-20843 I don't have any problem with how the driving looks, it seems similar to many of the sims we're familiar with. The things I really don't want are bumping and boring with Ai during races, and races limited to 2-3 lap sprints. I like driving, beating the game is less important. Is that too much to ask? I don’t have any problem with how the driving looks, it seems similar to many of the sims we’re familiar with. The things I really don’t want are bumping and boring with Ai during races, and races limited to 2-3 lap sprints. I like driving, beating the game is less important. Is that too much to ask?

]]> By: Siggs http://www.virtualr.net/need-for-speed-shift-new-gameplay-videos/comment-page-1/#comment-20841 Siggs Thu, 04 Jun 2009 13:41:35 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=3791#comment-20841 <blockquote cite="comment-20805"> <strong><a href="#comment-20805" rel="nofollow">yakshemash</a></strong>: M3, Autopolis! <a href="http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-need-for/50472?type=flv" rel="nofollow">http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-need-for/50472?type=flv</a> </blockquote> <blockquote cite="comment-20812"> <strong><a href="#comment-20812" rel="nofollow">scca1981</a></strong>: and if you can’t see that your blind or too stubborn to give any credit. </blockquote> Well said SCCA, well said! :sd: It really is a shame to see how many people are losing faith in this game, for no apparent reason. Or stubborness... :lol: That video from Yakshemash was very good. Depite not being in cockpit, the driving look perfectly acceptable for what I would expect, with all the aids turn on like they were. At the very least, I think this wil be far better than GRID handling wise, far better. And grahpically? NOT SO DAMN YELLOW!!! :wink: .

yakshemash:
M3, Autopolis!
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-need-for/50472?type=flv

scca1981:
and if you can’t see that your blind or too stubborn to give any credit.

Well said SCCA, well said! :sd: It really is a shame to see how many people are losing faith in this game, for no apparent reason. Or stubborness… :lol: That video from Yakshemash was very good. Depite not being in cockpit, the driving look perfectly acceptable for what I would expect, with all the aids turn on like they were. At the very least, I think this wil be far better than GRID handling wise, far better. And grahpically? NOT SO DAMN YELLOW!!! :wink:
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]]> By: Sensekhmet http://www.virtualr.net/need-for-speed-shift-new-gameplay-videos/comment-page-1/#comment-20832 Sensekhmet Thu, 04 Jun 2009 07:27:50 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=3791#comment-20832 Jesus. What is EA doing with those hopeless test drivers? Have they ever even sat in a car? It's like Porsche one day decided to replace Mr. Walther R. and instead have rich hairdressers drive their cars in commercials (which are the main buyers of Porsches nowadays). Jesus. What is EA doing with those hopeless test drivers? Have they ever even sat in a car?
It’s like Porsche one day decided to replace Mr. Walther R. and instead have rich hairdressers drive their cars in commercials (which are the main buyers of Porsches nowadays).

]]> By: Niksounds http://www.virtualr.net/need-for-speed-shift-new-gameplay-videos/comment-page-1/#comment-20830 Niksounds Thu, 04 Jun 2009 05:55:19 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=3791#comment-20830 Wait to try.. wait to try.... :lol: world without faith :happy: Wait to try..
wait to try…. :lol:

world without faith :happy:

]]> By: UncleChuckle http://www.virtualr.net/need-for-speed-shift-new-gameplay-videos/comment-page-1/#comment-20821 UncleChuckle Thu, 04 Jun 2009 00:01:27 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=3791#comment-20821 I hope we can have the HUD without the movement. I race with the HUD on mainly because I like to know my laptimes etc... And it's just easier leaving it on than mucking about on a car by car basis. Really doubting this titles quality. Yes, it LOOKS amazing, but there's been nothing to convince me we're looking at the PC's "Gran Turismo Lite". (Because let's face it, the real Gran Turismo is never coming to the PC. It's about the only huge exclusive Sony have.) I hope we can have the HUD without the movement. I race with the HUD on mainly because I like to know my laptimes etc… And it’s just easier leaving it on than mucking about on a car by car basis.

Really doubting this titles quality. Yes, it LOOKS amazing, but there’s been nothing to convince me we’re looking at the PC’s “Gran Turismo Lite”.

(Because let’s face it, the real Gran Turismo is never coming to the PC. It’s about the only huge exclusive Sony have.)

]]> By: PvtStash http://www.virtualr.net/need-for-speed-shift-new-gameplay-videos/comment-page-1/#comment-20818 PvtStash Wed, 03 Jun 2009 23:14:27 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=3791#comment-20818 Where the hell do they get the test drivers from? Do they hang out at the local motor reg and grab the failed learners? You'd think after spending who knows how much cash on making the thing they would at least find someone who can drive the bloody things. :P It does look and sound nice though. Where the hell do they get the test drivers from? Do they hang out at the local motor reg and grab the failed learners? You’d think after spending who knows how much cash on making the thing they would at least find someone who can drive the bloody things. :P It does look and sound nice though.

]]> By: XaliaS http://www.virtualr.net/need-for-speed-shift-new-gameplay-videos/comment-page-1/#comment-20816 XaliaS Wed, 03 Jun 2009 23:07:30 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=3791#comment-20816 Pleased to confirm the stupid static iris blur effect is completely gone and replaced, but we knew that already. Also just for the sake of repeating this too; they must include the options to disable the dynamic hud movement and excessive camera FX in the options. Yes congrats EA, you can market those unique selling points to us! But the majority of all customers are going to turn those features off within 5-10 minutes of play, so better accommodate that and in the demo. I shouldn't have to hack them off either. Pleased to confirm the stupid static iris blur effect is completely gone and replaced, but we knew that already.

Also just for the sake of repeating this too; they must include the options to disable the dynamic hud movement and excessive camera FX in the options. Yes congrats EA, you can market those unique selling points to us! But the majority of all customers are going to turn those features off within 5-10 minutes of play, so better accommodate that and in the demo. I shouldn’t have to hack them off either.

]]> By: scca1981 http://www.virtualr.net/need-for-speed-shift-new-gameplay-videos/comment-page-1/#comment-20812 scca1981 Wed, 03 Jun 2009 21:56:01 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=3791#comment-20812 looking great (even with the noob driver) The gfx look best i've seen yet even with these low resolution previews. Check out those shadows :) Anyone who compares this to grid is on crack. Can't say a lot about phsyics until I have the game, but really from the videos there is a lot of hope for us sim racers and if you can't see that your blind or too stubborn to give any credit. looking great (even with the noob driver)

The gfx look best i’ve seen yet even with these low resolution previews. Check out those shadows :) Anyone who compares this to grid is on crack.

Can’t say a lot about phsyics until I have the game, but really from the videos there is a lot of hope for us sim racers and if you can’t see that your blind or too stubborn to give any credit.

]]> By: dadada1 http://www.virtualr.net/need-for-speed-shift-new-gameplay-videos/comment-page-1/#comment-20810 dadada1 Wed, 03 Jun 2009 21:47:27 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=3791#comment-20810 <blockquote cite="comment-20805"> <strong><a href="#comment-20805" rel="nofollow">yakshemash</a></strong>: M3, Autopolis! <a href="http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-need-for/50472?type=flv" rel="nofollow">http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-need-for/50472?type=flv</A> </blockquote> Only a two lap race, not good.

yakshemash: M3, Autopolis!
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-need-for/50472?type=flv

Only a two lap race, not good.

]]> By: UncleChuckle http://www.virtualr.net/need-for-speed-shift-new-gameplay-videos/comment-page-1/#comment-20808 UncleChuckle Wed, 03 Jun 2009 21:02:56 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=3791#comment-20808 <blockquote cite="comment-20804"> <strong><a href="#comment-20804" rel="nofollow">XaliaS</a></strong>: The last console control I used for racing was GT2 on the PS1, </blockquote> GT2's car handling via gamepad was so much nicer than GT4's. I went back and tried it back when I'd played GT4 for a few months and GT2 was fun, whereas GT4 was annoying.

XaliaS:
The last console control I used for racing was GT2 on the PS1,

GT2’s car handling via gamepad was so much nicer than GT4’s. I went back and tried it back when I’d played GT4 for a few months and GT2 was fun, whereas GT4 was annoying.

]]> By: yakshemash http://www.virtualr.net/need-for-speed-shift-new-gameplay-videos/comment-page-1/#comment-20805 yakshemash Wed, 03 Jun 2009 18:46:49 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=3791#comment-20805 M3, Autopolis! http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-need-for/50472?type=flv M3, Autopolis!

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-need-for/50472?type=flv

]]> By: XaliaS http://www.virtualr.net/need-for-speed-shift-new-gameplay-videos/comment-page-1/#comment-20804 XaliaS Wed, 03 Jun 2009 17:39:10 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=3791#comment-20804 The last console control I used for racing was GT2 on the PS1, understandably things have changed massively since then, but what I notice with the control system is that the driving games that use only digital input tend to put some kind of beneficial control lag. So when you rapidly push 'left left left' to make a smooth left turn, the car gently turns left with very controllable slides. What I've seen in Shift is the opposite, the controller has direct response because its an analogue joystick, which is good when you plug a steering wheel in because you want that kind of response, but direct control with a keyboard/small joystick just looks awkward and inhuman (unrealistic basically) which is where I believe parts of the "arcade looking handling" comes from, as well as all the aids. One control method compromises the other (unless they optimize two systems) and the good news is, I believe they went for better realism with a steering wheel rather than a controller, which has a bad habit of 'left click left click' steering and no smoothness. The last console control I used for racing was GT2 on the PS1, understandably things have changed massively since then, but what I notice with the control system is that the driving games that use only digital input tend to put some kind of beneficial control lag. So when you rapidly push ‘left left left’ to make a smooth left turn, the car gently turns left with very controllable slides.

What I’ve seen in Shift is the opposite, the controller has direct response because its an analogue joystick, which is good when you plug a steering wheel in because you want that kind of response, but direct control with a keyboard/small joystick just looks awkward and inhuman (unrealistic basically) which is where I believe parts of the “arcade looking handling” comes from, as well as all the aids.

One control method compromises the other (unless they optimize two systems) and the good news is, I believe they went for better realism with a steering wheel rather than a controller, which has a bad habit of ‘left click left click’ steering and no smoothness.

]]> By: xilix http://www.virtualr.net/need-for-speed-shift-new-gameplay-videos/comment-page-1/#comment-20800 xilix Wed, 03 Jun 2009 16:59:47 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=3791#comment-20800 <blockquote cite="comment-20778"> <strong><a href="#comment-20778" rel="nofollow">TheSTIG</a></strong>: It is obvious that this is the arcade mode with all assist ON as they flash in the bottom right corner and the damage is .. well almost nonexistent. As for the driving - really what is wrong with these drivers? I assume they are using gamepads but still they are hopeless </blockquote> Since my steering wheel broke I've been using a gamepad, using the analog sticks and throttle slide for steering, brake, throttle and clutch. It's not as accurate as a wheel by any means, but if you get used to it and learn how to be smooth, you can definitely drive well. So using a gamepad is no excuse for that horrid driving. I can even do heel/toe shifting with my gamepad. It's the older Wingman Cordless (not the new one that doesn't have the throttle slide). Anyway, yeah, it seems as though not one single video of gameplay has a guy who can drive well at all. But then again, these are probably NFS arcade racing type fans who're getting a chance to preview the game. Those people can't drive for sh!t.

TheSTIG:
It is obvious that this is the arcade mode with all assist ON as they flash in the bottom right corner and the damage is .. well almost nonexistent. As for the driving – really what is wrong with these drivers? I assume they are using gamepads but still they are hopeless

Since my steering wheel broke I’ve been using a gamepad, using the analog sticks and throttle slide for steering, brake, throttle and clutch. It’s not as accurate as a wheel by any means, but if you get used to it and learn how to be smooth, you can definitely drive well. So using a gamepad is no excuse for that horrid driving. I can even do heel/toe shifting with my gamepad. It’s the older Wingman Cordless (not the new one that doesn’t have the throttle slide).

Anyway, yeah, it seems as though not one single video of gameplay has a guy who can drive well at all. But then again, these are probably NFS arcade racing type fans who’re getting a chance to preview the game. Those people can’t drive for sh!t.

]]> By: Alexease http://www.virtualr.net/need-for-speed-shift-new-gameplay-videos/comment-page-1/#comment-20798 Alexease Wed, 03 Jun 2009 16:50:33 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=3791#comment-20798 I hope this is the arcade MOD... :eek: I hope this is the arcade MOD… :eek:

]]> By: GeraArg http://www.virtualr.net/need-for-speed-shift-new-gameplay-videos/comment-page-1/#comment-20794 GeraArg Wed, 03 Jun 2009 16:33:54 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=3791#comment-20794 I keep the hope... In all the videos that show, are always active all aid. http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/7212/dibujolgt.jpg :grin: I keep the hope…

In all the videos that show, are always active all aid.

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/7212/dibujolgt.jpg
:grin:

]]> By: Jdz http://www.virtualr.net/need-for-speed-shift-new-gameplay-videos/comment-page-1/#comment-20793 Jdz Wed, 03 Jun 2009 16:27:18 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=3791#comment-20793 <blockquote cite="comment-20790"> <strong><a href="#comment-20790" rel="nofollow">yakshemash</a></strong>: both videos are from this <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojyNdKjs5KE" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojyNdKjs5KE</a> Check it out. You can see some damage at the end too. </blockquote> Comparing it to FPS games - great... Though the whole points system sounds pretty neat!

yakshemash:
both videos are from this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojyNdKjs5KE
Check it out. You can see some damage at the end too.

Comparing it to FPS games – great…

Though the whole points system sounds pretty neat!

]]> By: Serg Funke http://www.virtualr.net/need-for-speed-shift-new-gameplay-videos/comment-page-1/#comment-20791 Serg Funke Wed, 03 Jun 2009 16:00:26 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=3791#comment-20791 more gameplay http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-need-for/50458 more gameplay http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-need-for/50458

]]> By: yakshemash http://www.virtualr.net/need-for-speed-shift-new-gameplay-videos/comment-page-1/#comment-20790 yakshemash Wed, 03 Jun 2009 15:51:08 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=3791#comment-20790 both videos are from this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojyNdKjs5KE Check it out. You can see some damage at the end too. both videos are from this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojyNdKjs5KE
Check it out. You can see some damage at the end too.

]]> By: Serg Funke http://www.virtualr.net/need-for-speed-shift-new-gameplay-videos/comment-page-1/#comment-20789 Serg Funke Wed, 03 Jun 2009 15:27:37 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=3791#comment-20789 such a noob driver such a noob driver

]]> By: Jonas http://www.virtualr.net/need-for-speed-shift-new-gameplay-videos/comment-page-1/#comment-20788 Jonas Wed, 03 Jun 2009 15:24:33 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=3791#comment-20788 :happy: "Need for Speed: GRID" :happy: :happy: “Need for Speed: GRID” :happy:

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