I sometimes use one to do some quick laps for taking screenshots and stuff like that, and I´m almost as quick as when using a while – With no aids on.

So the conclusion that a sim can’t be realistic because it can be driven with a pad is completely wrong. Even iRacing works with a gamepad fairly well…

1/ Ignore comment’s on videogame webiste’s, possibly even this one. Most people post because they wish to complain.

2/ It’s ridiculous to claim GT5P is not a sim, I have plenty of experience driving some of the car’s in GT5P, and have played most PC sim’s, and let me tell you GT5P stand’s up to much of what is on the PC.

3/ NFS Shift is aimed at the sim market as arcade racer’s have flopped on console’s. The only success’s have been Grid and outright ‘crash’ sim’s like Burnout, the market has moved massively in favour of sim’s like Gran Turismo and Forza.

4/ 99% of folk can drive a real car, so should be able to drive a 100% realistic sim. That’s very different to throwing someone in at the deep end with a sport’s protoype or F1 car and expecting them to drive quickly.

5/ A pad can be used to drive a sim, just as PC sim’s can be tailored to any number of controller’s, even keyboard’s. Of course the experience is not as natural as using a steering wheel, but you still find a significant difference between GT4 and GT5P, nevermind Grid and GT5P.

geo1098:
Given the comment about Gran Turismo cars sticking to the road better, I’d bet money he drives GT5P on R3 (highest grip) tires all the time and perhaps on standard physics. Even on R1 tires it’s pushing what is realistic even in professional physics mode (for a console sim). S3 is a better choice for a more realistic feel. From what I’ve seen it looks like Shift is going to be one of the best sim racing options available on the PS3.

Actually N3-S1. Anything below 300bhp, it’s usually N2. Even the tuned cars feel more realistic with just S1. R tires are just sticky to have any fun with.

Also, I had a ton of fun with GRID!

So many friends who see my home setup cannot make a decent lap with it (driving aids off).
After i show them how to do it.
They still can’t.
Only thing that comes out of their mouth.. to difficult for me and walk away.

So blimey just wants to make a mainstream game, for people who do not want to brake before the corner or other drivers.
If everything works out we can filter the wreckers from the real drivers on the servers. All thanks to the profile they got while driving.

So wait for the final release before we burn the house down!!!

Manmanman Man ey.. im not seeing only one clean Race from a Simrace “Profi”.
But..NFS Wreckers..sounds perfekt too…..^^

In this Sense
Holger

BSR-WiX:
fOxx: how does it feel being the only mortal on earth with a PC version of Gran Turismo?

I figure he probably meant playing GT2 on a PS1 emulator.

I love Gran Turismo but would never dream of calling it a sim. It’s Pokemon with cars.

Mad Cat: Games would fail if that were the case. Imagine Half-Life 2 with realism. One shot, you’re dead.

I have no problem with unrealistic racers. The problem I have is when they’re billed as sims and clearly aren’t. Anything Codemasters have ever made for example. Not a single sim. And yet we’ve still got NFS being pushed as a sim.

Don’t piss on my head and tell me it’s raining.

xilix:
I literally can not relate to anyone who doesn’t want their game to be as realistic as possible. It makes absolutely no sense to me what-so-ever that someone would see that a game is realistic, and be disappointed in that.

You CAN get too realistic. Like in NetKar, how you can run your battery down. Some concessions have to be made for video games sometimes. Realistic is better (to some people), but only to a point.

Also, I don’t know how anyone can fairly evaluate the physics of a driving game with a gamepad. It’s like trying to describe colour to a blind man.

All those commenters on the IGN site are retarded. If they want an arcade NFS, haven’t they heard about Nitro? I like that EA isn’t trying to please everyone with every title, but rather are making a different game to please everyone. (edit. turns out Nitro is going to be a Wii exclusive. Fail)

• Simple automatic-transmission logic is funny. Y’know, when you brake slightly, then accelerate, and the AT is shifting like 3rd-4th-3rd-4th. LOL.

• I like how the “racing line” is, more often than not, in the middle of the damn road. Right.

• What the hell were those block-looking things in the middle of the road in the fourth video? “Ohnoes, u haz hit teh barrierzz!!!! U loses!”