More Pro Drivers Jump Into Project CARS – Videos

Ever since Slightly Mad Studios started the development of Project CARS, professional drivers were involved in the WMD-powered title.

What started with former Stig Ben Collins and Nicolas Hamilton who serve as physics & handling consultants in the WMD forums has now spawned to more and more drivers who enjoy the alpha version of Project CARS to prepare for the next race or simply their own enjoyment.

As covered before, one of them is Rene Rast, who prepared for his maiden Le Mans start with Project CARS. Rene has also introduced his friend Nicki Thiim, 2013 Porsche Supercup Champion & Aston Martin works driver, to Project CARS as seen in the video below.

Another driver that has been bitten by the Project CARS bug is Philipp Eng. The Austrian racing ace competes in the Porsche Supercup and the ADAC GT Masters series, he has shared a video of him tackling the Nürburgring Nordschleife in Project CARS.

Project CARS will be available for the PC, PlayStation 4, Xbox One, Steam OS, and Wii U starting November 2014. More info can be found on the Project CARS website.

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  • e_r_n_i_e

    Awesome!

  • wajdi nujeidat

    Promotion means money and with some money Any driver in the world will make a video where he shows that he is preparing him self even with super Mario Kart!

    • MontoyaVR

      Do you honestly believe that SMS has the budget to pay a whole armada of professional racing drivers only to convince a few thousand hardcore sim racers?

      These drivers don’t work for SMS, only the ones that have an active role on the team and in the forums (Ben & Nic) do.

      • wajdi nujeidat

        Yes Montoya, I do.

      • Smithaz

        I for one find it odd that these drivers keep coming up and actively advertising the game, especially considering that the driving physics have a bad reputation in the community.

      • pez2k

        If you listen purely to the ‘reputation in the community’ though, iRacing is like ice skating, rF2 looks like a PS1 game, and AC has no content.

        (All of those are also untrue by the way.)

      • BackMarker

        ROFL!!
        That perfectly sums up all the geek-on-geek violence between the sim racing factions. So much negativity by those guys!

      • punkfest2000

        rF2 looks at least PS2 levels.

      • Birddogg66

        The percentage of people who still think this in recent polls is 1.25% out of the 35,000 that responded to the poll.

      • Birddogg66

        That would somewhat cover the percentage of Ultra Hard Core sim racers that exist out there.

      • David Dominguez

        It’s pretty obvious that they have some kind of deal with SMS. After all they aren’t Alonso or Hamilton, so it’s not like you need millions of dollars to convince them.

      • HardRock

        What would convince you guys that you’re wrong? You obviously don’t believe SMS, the drivers themselves, or the community testing the game. Who do you believe and why?

      • David Dominguez

        Seriously? All racing drivers that use simulators are using rF/rF Pro and now there is one that all of sudden has seen the light after trying pCars?

        Just see that video of Phillip, do you really think a professional driver would test seriously with such huge input lag?

      • HardRock

        You didn’t answer my question.

        EDIT: And yes, I think the game is perfectly drivable and enjoyable with that kind of lag, which could be reduced by the way.

        EDIT2: Also, who said anything about testing?

      • David Dominguez

        Yes I did. I believe in what I think, that’s enough for me. And I will add that for me is obviously too that Rene is doing promotion of Fanatec stuff.

      • HardRock

        Of course you are free to believe what you want, but I hope you realize that your beliefs don’t have an effect on reality.

      • David Dominguez

        Obviously.

      • hotak

        Rene is actually doing some testing stuff for Fanatec, and that’s exactly how he got his hands on pCars and then asked SMS for an account

      • MontoyaVR

        All racing drivers use rF or rF Pro? What about those who use GSC or the many that use iRacing?

        Race drivers enjoy sim racing as well, you don’t need to pay them for that. It’s quite sad that sim racers think so little of their own hobby that the logical conclusion is that a real race driver must have been bribed to do it.

      • David Dominguez

        GSC is using same engine as rF, so basically it’s the same. Anyway the key here for me is the tempo of those videos, which makes me believe that it’s not a coincidence. But even if he is really paid by SMS, there is absolutely nothing wrong on it.

      • Birddogg66

        (GSC is using same engine as rF, so basically it’s the same)

        Post that on Reiza FB page and see how long it takes to get banned. Give credit where credit is due or release your own stuff before belittling the efforts of some very talented individuals.

      • David Dominguez

        Racing teams use their own physics, that’s why I say that rF and GSC are basically the same.

      • Birddogg66

        Racing Teams use their own physics so they are the same is what your saying?

      • Birddogg66

        A medication that cures Trollosity!

      • HardRock

        If only such a thing would exist…

      • F1Racer

        Obvious to you maybe but you’d be wrong. Bbut lets just entertain your opinion for a moment….

        Suppose there was a deal with SMS. So what ?? Why would you care and how is it a negative ?
        Unless you just can’t believe the positive things they have to say so you assume they’re getting financial reward to talk it up.
        So you’d basically be saying their opinion doesn’t match yours so they must be getting paid for saying it. Is that it ?

        Between you and wajdi, I think it’s all the negativity we need. Nice going.

      • David Dominguez

        I don’t care, I just found a message from Montoya asking to another guy if he believes that this is promotion and I wanted to give my opinion. I also stated that even if I am right and he is doing promotion for them, there isn’t anything wrong on it.

        Now my question is, if you can’t handle other people opinions, why do you want a forum? Just post news and close comments.

      • F1Racer

        What makes you think I can’t handle other peoples opinions ? :)
        I don’t have to agree with them all and sometimes I feel the need to reply. You know, like most people do.

        I don’t see why you feel the need to find a negative in something which is clearly a positive.
        I think it’s great that pro drivers are not only driving the sims we drive but showing us their videos. And as we have seen, both Eng and Thiim have done that before with other sims they drive. So pCARS seems to be just another sim they are playing and I think SMS’s only involvement was to grant them access to the software – and why wouldn’t they ?

      • EZehnder

        It’s obvious to me that they’re not being paid but, as you said, let’s assume they are. Rene Rast drove his real Audi R8 race car around Ochersleben a few weeks ago. He then drove the virtual car around the virtual track using the same inputs and got a time within less than a second of his real time.

        To me that’s all you need and, even if you’re a hater, it doesn’t matter if he’s paid.

      • F1Racer

        Yep. Doesn’t matter if there are haters either. Those who want to and will enjoy it will do so regardless They can be on the outside, losing out, while they find the next thing to whinge about.

      • wajdi nujeidat

        All sudden in the last few weeks some gt drivers chose to make videos about them ” training and preparing their self with Pcars” please!

      • pez2k

        Did you miss that Nicki Thiim was playing it on Rene Rast’s rig, while Philipp Eng has raced in so many of the same series that Rene has raced in that I’d not be surprised if they know each other well. It’s not the first sim video that Philipp Eng has made either. It’s hardly some vast and bizarre conspiracy that three ex-Supercup drivers are playing the same game in their spare time.

      • wajdi nujeidat

        This. All sudden in the last few weeks some gt drivers chose to make videos about them while preparing for some race with Pcars” then they all upload these videos in YT, then VirtulaR pubblic all these videos in their main Home Page…come on now! we arent stupid mate.

      • Michal Beran

        yes you are :-)

      • Birddogg66

        Next he’ll say VR is biased toward pCARS when there were 21 articles between pCARS related posts covering other games.

      • Birddogg66

        Actually that makes a strong point that there were 21 other threads these guys could have posted in rather than dumping on this one!

      • wajdi nujeidat

        I can see your inability to respond to my post with any valid logic and argument.

      • Birddogg66

        I didn’t see any worth responding to so you can’t post any but expect some back?

      • wajdi nujeidat

        Ok, so I can call you ” stupid”?!

      • Birddogg66

        If it is deserving but in this case I don’t think it is and sorry it has to fall to this when people choose to ignore facts. I have way better things to do but feel the need to respond to things so ridiculous they are laughable. I would just hope that what ever mental block you may have be lifted and that you may see the light.

      • MontoyaVR

        Sim racers filming themselves with GoPro cameras and stuff like that has simply become much more popular in recent years, it’s not just pro drivers that do it.

        And neither is uploading hot laps to Youtube something only pro drivers do. Again, they’re behaving like regular sim racers and the fact that you find that suspicious is a little twisted.

        And yes, of course I do post it because it is positive news for sim racing to see these guys involved in our hobby. You could take something positive from it instead of coming up with all kinds of weird conspiracy theories.

      • wajdi nujeidat

        Yep, all these pro drivers are suddenly using Pcars and Fanatec products…what’s a concidence!

      • pez2k

        You’re telling me that two simracers have both bought Fanatec wheels?? Stop the presses!

      • MontoyaVR

        Not so much of a coincidence but maybe a sign that both products are just good?

        But no, that can’t be. It has to be some weird conspiracy…

      • F1Racer

        Ach ! It’s no good, he’s discovered the secret.
        Fanatec and SMS are in a big deal together to co-finance some professional racing drivers so they can talk up pCARS (but not Fanatec – just show them off in a video) in order that a few sim-racers who need to be turned into the light, can be.
        All that money spent and a couple of sim-racers saw through the master plan and spoiled everything with a couple of posts on a sim-racing blog.

        Drat and double drat ! Oh well, back to the drawing board.

        Plan C: Get Kimi Raikkonen to try pCARS and see if he cracks a smile. If he does, who could fail to believe that pCARS is worth smiling about (rubs hands in an evil genius sort of way). Muhahahahaaaa. We will fool those sim-racers yet !!

      • Gui

        If you’re a racer and have the opportunity to receive quality sim gear for free, wouldn’t you? Why spend money on the same or lesser material? What’s wrong with endorsing something you believe in or benefit from?

        Leo Bodnar, Niels Heusinkveld and others supply top notch gear but they’re not for the wider public – in price and quantity available. It’d not surprise me to see even more Fanatec folks and even some on Thrustmaster.

      • F1Racer

        “come on now! we arent stupid mate.”

        Irony ?

      • Gui

        You know some F1 drivers even took Playstation 1 and 2 F1 games to have some notion of the tracks they were going to? SOME. These days people can take to the track to better familiarize or even just refresh their memory given how much better track modelling has gotten.

      • Slawek

        I am wondering when all these pro drivers joined pcars as the tool pack purchase has ben closed in November 2012….

      • MontoyaVR

        Select people like press members, hardware partners etc. are still given access to the builds.

        If drivers ask nicely because they have seen their peers play it, who’s SMS to say no to them? ;)

      • BackMarker

        Lucky guys! I would love to get an account at pCARS. maybe I can if I tell them I am a (daily) driver and my name is “Lewis Hamiltan?”
        : )

      • Birddogg66

        With that Spelling? Mr. Hamiltan! LOL
        :)

      • BackMarker

        That is the point, duh! LOL
        ; )

      • F1Racer

        What about Louise Hamilton ?

      • Birddogg66

        I figured that much. :)

      • Roy Rki

        I wonder what price could people negotiate with SMS for early access keys. 100€? 200€? I bet many would pay this much, just look at Star Citizen and Elite.

    • melanieuk1

      This is just a observation I’ve been following.
      When it comes to marketing products, seems like all the sim developers are doing it right, Codemasters, Iracing, Simbin, Kunos, Simraceway Reiza(kind of), Turn 10 studios and Polyphony Digital, we see their staff & developers working with motor sports drivers, motor sports engineers, and racing teams all working together, so why is it with you Kunos and SMS are a problem, considering there is a developer missing from the list of devs I mention which happen to be your favorite dev team, we don’t see or hear who they have been working with, or is it just a office job, maybe you should encourage them to release more news with who they have been working with, it would be interesting to see.

    • Chris Wright

      ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz……….

      Just a question at this point. Have you actually played this title?

    • F1Racer

      Talking of promotion, I love how you ‘like’ your own posts. :D

      • wajdi nujeidat

        yes I do my posts, because I agree with them!lol

      • Deatroy

        Egoist :D /joke

    • Roy Rki

      lol, RR doesn’t need any additional promotion or money from SMS, just look what he accomplished this month. His RL skills grant him enough money already.

  • David Hughes

    Amazing that all these Pro’s like their cars to be setup to understeer

    • Chris Wright

      In my view that’s one of those defining differences between sim and reality. I’m not in the same class as these boys, but I tend to favor that sort of setup too, primarily because I can generally feel the tire adhesion better.

      • Alan Dallas

        Same here. Also understeer is much easier to correct when on the track by adjusting your entry speed.
        Slow in, Fast out. :)

  • pez2k

    I think it’s fascinating how much that people assume that the only benefit Rene Rast & co could be getting from this is straight payments from SMS. How many times was Rene Rast discussed in this community say, six months ago? Now we have his name popping up regularly, as well as widespread videos of cars that he’s paid to race (the R8 LMS and Oreca 03), and even videos of his sponsors painted on a virtual Oreca. Surely there’s something to the thought that Philipp Eng could be deliberately making a video in the vein of Rene’s in order to get similar publicity and support?

    • Birddogg66

      A little self promotion goes a long way just look where self promoting got Nikki Lauda?

  • Bjorn G

    Does not convince me.
    I just retried pCARS (weekly) in hope it had gotten massively awesome. It hadn’t…FFB is still absolutely useless. Better off with it turned off :)

    • EZehnder

      Sounds like you haven’t been clearing your profile properly or, perhaps, you’re clipping.

      • Bjorn G

        Sounds like they should work on that?
        All I did was update it on steam, plugin my G25 and select G25 with seperate pedals (CSP) Calibrated it and wen’t out on track. What more should I do?

        The alternatives doesn’t need anymore fiddling to be good out of the box.

        The only two things I can adjust from the menu is multiplier and tireforce. I cranked it up to see if it added effects – it didn’t, just made the steering heavier – yay!

        I drove on modern Spa in the E92 GT2… Drive on curbs… No effect. Drive with one wheel-set on the grass and the other wheel-set on the tarmac – no change in feedback or anything – nothing.

        It is absolutely numb. Spun twice in Les Combes for no appearent reason – wheel didn’t let me know the rear stepped out – absolutely nothing. The wheel started do tell me something was up when I had done the first 180 degrees of the spin. Very useful.

        It is out of the box, I haven’t fiddled with any files outside the game, cause that is not necessary to get good feedback in any of the other simulations.

        Please enlighten me and I’ll consider my options.

        So far, completely useless out of the box – unlike the competitors.

      • pez2k

        Yeah, it’s not meant to be good out of the box – the point is that everyone is a tester, and is helping to find and refine what the out-of-the-box settings should actually be. Not to be rude, but if you want a polished and finished game wait until November before trying it again.

      • Bjorn G

        Neither are AC and rF2 – yet they are far better out of the box than this :) I paid the exact same amount of setting up of pCARS as AC and rF2 – all which is accessable tuned from the UI.

      • pez2k

        AC is a complete enough product to be sold openly on Steam, while I believe ISI stopped calling rF2 a beta quite a while ago and also sells it to the general public. pCARS on the other hand literally had you agree to a set of terms and conditions when signing up that included an obligation to help out with development in return for the early access and potential returns. It’s a very different situation.

        As for your comment above about having to delete profiles after post-release patches, that won’t be necessary. However, it’s a complete waste of time for the developers to implement full profile migration for each daily build, compared to the minute or so it takes to wipe yours and set up again each time you’re testing.

      • Bjorn G

        All three are in development, some are just more open about it than others., and CARS was open, they chickened out of that – can’t remember why though – it was insignificant to me.

        I’ve been away from pCARS because it disappointed me to start with.

        Tell me how I ‘wipe’ my profile and I’ll see I’m changing my mind!

      • pez2k

        pCARS reached their required funding level and closed access, it was never a product on sale.

        As for clearing your profile, you just delete default.sav in DocumentsCARSprofiles .

      • Bjorn G

        Finally… Deleted. Will give at re-run tonight… If nothing changes, what then? Then I guess I’m right :)

      • pez2k

        Then you start discussing on WMD which settings that people recommend, and what you think needs to be changed. :)

      • Bjorn G

        That is if it blows my mind – hold your horses :)

      • Me

        Sounds like you need to “engage” in the process or just wait for it to go gold. Hopping in and just expecting everything to be perfect without you having the knowledge to tweak it properly or choose the cars and tracks that are more developed are just you being lazy. Wait for it to go gold please and spare everyone your expert opinion. Jeez, you personify exactly the “I want it now” crowd. Dig into the forums, ask questions, figure it out. You’re obviously clipping the FFB…but no, just jump on here and tell everyone how much you hate it. It’s your opinion…my experience is quite different, I quite like it.
        And why the hell wasn’t your G25 plugged in already! You call yourself a sim racer!? :-P

      • Bjorn G

        I am giving the exact same amount of attention in the profilers and controller settings in pCARS as I’ve done in AC and rF2. And they work far better than pCARS.

        Again, I don’t want to do their work – I haven’t deleted profilers or anything else in either AC or rF2. If this is supposed to appeal to the masses they have to get the plug n’ play ability right. If a patch comes after the ‘gold’ release in November, is the end-users then also supposed to sweep profiles and what not? That would not be what I expected.

        Call me lazy? Like I said, I paid the exact same amount of attention to AC and rF2 and they work.

        And my G25 is always plugged – of course.

      • EZehnder

        “The alternatives doesn’t need anymore fiddling to be good out of the box.”

        The game is still in development. If you want to test, clearing your profile each new build is REQUIRED.

        “The only two things I can adjust from the menu is multiplier and
        tireforce. I cranked it up to see if it added effects – it didn’t, just
        made the steering heavier – yay!”

        That’s because you’re clipping. Your wheel is only capable of a certain amount of fidelity but far more strength. It is a limitation of your WHEEL that you are just getting dead, heavy steering. This is a well-known fact, I thought.

        The rest of your post is just being mad at your wheel and wheel settings. Project CARS has a FFB meter that will show you if you’re clipping. Keep turning down until you’re no longer clipping.

    • Birddogg66

      I hope you get your wheel settings worked out. It also amazes me how many G25’s are still working Those are yesteryear wheels for sure. Says a lot about their durability. Try the forums and see what settings others are using for that wheel? If after that it still does not work well enough for you well then fair enough

      • Bjorn G

        G27 are still sold, it’s basically the same wheel.
        Well thanks… GAWD forum forum, forum… If that IS necessary just to get the FFB working, not even tweaked (even though there are G25 presets(useless appearently!)) on the most sold and used wheel to date then screw it :)

      • BC72

        Great, screw it and go away… Seriously, you clearly had no idea what you were getting into. I hate to do it, but it looks like I must repeat it again….it is in Alpha.

        G25 and G27 are not the same…the devs have started to crack the FFB and that was one of the first things I saw posted.

      • Bjorn G

        Haha right… You go away <3

        Oh and for the steering wheels, they're massively different to each other. Different ball games. Oh no, they're similar. Stop FEWLIN' yoself!

      • Birddogg66

        I am in need of forum input ATM due to the fact that seems my CSW FW and Driver updates did not go well for some reason? My issue maybe pretty randomized in nature and I need all the help I can get with it. Just saying that it’s just something to keep in mind that others are out there willing to lend a hand. After that you say screw it fine I can’t give much of an argument to that.

      • Bjorn G

        I’ll be testing it at some point… Just haven’t got around it yet…

      • Bjorn G

        Hey BD… The deletion of the profile didn’t change anything sadly. It’s still very bland, like there’s a setting missing of how many effects you want from the FFB… Something as simples as an indication of riding a curb, nothing, not the smallest rattle.

        I don’t get why, it should be a simple thing but it’s not there.

        Are there any config files I can go and tweak to get some more involving feel.

        Don’t know if you see this message, since this is an old article, but maybe you see the disqus notification…

      • Birddogg66

        Well there are threads to discuss and tools to use if you want to try and customize your FFB settings in game. Check the WMD forum for any info that may help. I don’t know if there will be sliders added for the ability to adjust the FFB effects? It is something I have suggested in the past but I also have seen great improvements in the FFB since the start of the project. Who knows when it’s all done if I will feel the need for a slider adjustment system for FFB or not? ATM FTMP I am pretty okay with it.

  • kantenflimmern

    I’m not a pCARS hater, actually it’s the opposite I’m really looking forward to it, it’s gonna be an awesome Sim!

    But it’s so utterly obvious that this is just an ad for pCARS and these guys benefit from it in some way.
    None of this guys is making vids about rF2, iRacing or Assetto Corsa, though there are just as good as pCARS in it’s alpha stage. Furthermore, they are all using the same Fanatec rig (What a coincidence, I remember Rast showing off the new Fanatec Rims) ;).
    It remembers me a lot of Rubens Barichello “enjoying” GSC, nevermind he’s brazilian and promots a brazilian Sim.

    • Neil

      There are at least 4 iRacing videos posted on Philipp Eng’s channel.

    • pez2k

      Rubens legitimately does play GSC though, I seem to recall that he races in a Brazilian sim league along with some of the other Stock Car drivers.

      • 5hitm4k3r666

        But it wa still a contract and the lisencing of his name that made him play GSC. People are so damn naive.

    • Birddogg66

      I tend to enjoy conspiracy theory every now and again but I don’t think that applies here for any real compensations for these videos. Let’s choose 1 individual from the community that does not have pCARS but would really like to try it. So he asks if he can have some sort of early access and SMS says sure and it would also be nice if you gave us a mention at some point in appreciation. Would you be happy that SMS gave you this opportunity and feel obliged to in fact pass on a kind word for their product?
      That my friend is just some of the realities of life it happens all the time and not every one is on the take for every little thing they do they actually give back from time to time.

      • Keith Horner Jr

        I’d gladly mention sms if I were to be given access. I wish I would have jumped on board when I had the chance. I’m eagerly awaiting the day I get to turn virtual laps on pcars. And I came to that conclusion on my own without the help of Rene Rast.

    • MontoyaVR

      So why is it hard to believe that Barrichello enjoys GSC? It’s a great sim.

      Again, I don’t understand this mindset that it is for some reason absurd that race car drivers like to sim race for fun.

      Football players play Fifa on the console for fun, why wouldn’t race car drivers like sim racing?

      • 5hitm4k3r666

        I am pretty sure that Emo or Barrichello wouldn’t have known about GSC if the devs wouldn’t have get in contact with them especialy when you consider the licensing for Fittipaldis team/car, the name and the name of Rubens Barrichello just on the door of that Stockcar … that they might enjoy it after the deal is made is something different. Afterall those “I enjoy it”-videos are part of the lisence and the contract.

        I am damn sure that you need to initiate the contact with the drivers and the management to make that kind of advertisement. That’s my personal opinion and my observation from what I have gathered throughout the years of following motorsport and racing. You are free to believe otherwise.

        Money is a b*tch and it rules the world. We will never know wich kind of contracts are made behind closed doors so everybody needs to to make up his own opinion. But please don’t be surprised when people get sceptical when all of a sudden PC videos of pro drivers “enjoying” it flood the market.

      • Big Ron

        On the other hand these race drivers are on countless promotion events, marketing events and expos where gaming rigs are available to test certain games. They could also have tried on of these, liked it and bought it for private usage.

      • 5hitm4k3r666

        That was not realy my point. A racing driver can enjoy a game for sure. I am just sceptical whether that kind of interest is driven by own enthusiasm or the sim devs reaching out for contact.

      • Big Ron

        Don´t know. But it´s doubtful that SMS-devs are at every booth or event to show drivers their game. At all, they didn´t at the projects beginning and Rene Rast is part of WMD for a long time when SMS didn´t have any public event and game stage running. Probably SMS did their job, too. But probably it´s also free will.

      • Gui

        Actually you’d be wrong about Rubens. He didn’t need to be approached by Reiza as he already played sims. Emerson was a different subject completely, he was invited to see it and give it a spin but it was stated that younger kids in his family enjoy racing games.

        Don’t turn your assumptions into facts.

      • 5hitm4k3r666

        I said it is my own opinion about the matter of race drivers making advertisement for racing games. I will never know for sure what is true or not same as you won’t.

        You can either keep dreaming or maybe have an more realisitc and sceptical POV. I never said it is a fact as I simply don’t know wich kind of contracts are made same as you don’t. Do you know wich contracts were made between Rubens and Reiza and what is written in those contract? I guess not. Only thing I know is that there is a lisencing deal wich will feature a couple of different points possibely including some advertisement for the game. Doesn’t seem too far off if you ask me.

      • ModernTimes2

        The thing is we’re not looking at “advertisements” here – it’s normal motorsport buffs doing their thing, in their home of their own volition, publishing videos of it. Quite the normal thing to do these days.

        It has been told again and again in these threads that the drivers we see are not paid or recruited by SMS (except Ben and Nic of course, and that not a secret, it’s an advertised fact).

        However, the compulsive naysayers/haters/conspiracy-theorists are completely and willingly oblivious to reality, and nothing but negativity appeals to them :-))

      • 5hitm4k3r666

        Keep dreaming.

        Someone who is sceptical and doesn’t take every word from people who want to seel a product for granted is a hater for you? Seems legit.

        I don’t know in wich part of the world you live, but here where I live rules capitalism.

      • ModernTimes2

        “Keep dreaming.”

        No need too, I have the facts :-)

        “Someone who is sceptical and doesn’t take every word from people who want to sell a product for granted is a hater for you?”

        Not at all. However people who always try to twist every bit of news into some sinister plot, and maintain untrue negative claims on issues when given the facts, are somewhere in the naysayers/haters/conspiracy-theorists categories. We have seen out fair share over the project. I think you prove my point perfectly, BTW.

    • Helder Pimenta
    • F1Racer

      See Heider’s post below and Justins video post above. Kinda says it all.

    • Luciano Pacheco

      Im from Brazil and can say that I have had the privilege to race countless times against Rubens (and his son) in different leagues here. I don’t know anything about agrement, and I don’t doubt it, though I don’tthink he needs that money. All I can say is that he is extremelly active and passionate about this hobby (have seen him playing gSC and race07), rarely missing an event (one time he raced after just arriving from Melbourne (f1 commentator)he, which is a 24h flight from here) without any sleep (no, he didn’t do well in this case and ended up crashing me too :)). We have another big league starting in August and he’ll bethere along with more than a dozen stock car drivers (gsc stock car). cheers!

    • http://www.facebook.com/steve.shears.37 Steve Shears

      Benefit? You mean using their knowledge to input into the sim right?
      Or benefiting because these vids with the real racing drivers have been posted all over the internet at all the major gaming and sim sites.
      Oh thats right. They haven’t.
      Well thats great advertising there. Must be that then. I mean just look at that advertising with its 1060 views. Woah. Stand back world.
      And furthermore how many views are by pCARS owners. Like me?
      So thats 1059 views at best. Storming the web in its own blatantly obvious way.

  • Justin Schmidt

    nicki thiim also uses race07 with fitlight.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNp01WW0oz4

    • https://sites.google.com/site/myvracelog/project-cars/interesting-opportunity-by-ian-bell/About myvracelog

      so it is a reaction light game while racing. that is a good sharpening tool. i need one of those for my morning walks.

  • Si

    Anyone know what wheel Philipp Eng was using in the Nordschleife video?

    • BackMarker

      Looks like a Fanatec CSW with Formula rim in the pCARS hotlap nordschleife vid

      • Birddogg66

        Looks like a cubby hole.

    • Birddogg66

      Backmarker is right Phillip just added a customized Name Logo sticker on his Fanatec CSW Formula Rim

  • speed1

    Real DTM driver tested DTME. Does that mean it is a professionell tool or better than something else ? We will see what is this all about as i’ve seen with DTME demo as well and never bought it after testing it. Testing is fine with me but that doesn’t mean anything. Fun is allowed and to each his own. ;)

    Jus wondering how someone can controle the car with such a huge lag.

    Ian B. is genious, and this game will be sure positioned where he needs it, however. :)

    To bad i have to wait to get my hands on it again. :)

    • LogiForce

      That lag is probably monitor inputlag. Which you can test with a device from Leo Bodnar: http://www.leobodnar.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=212

      Mind you, the best monitors today are in the 20ms ish.

      • speed1

        Nevertheless that’s brutal buddy. I’ve never seen such a heavy lag with my triples or on the plasma TV when everything is fine. Perhaps it’s because of to low FPS. That’s the first thing i do before anything, to ensure the lowest lag possible by optimizing gfx etc. ;)

        This setup would be absolutly a no go for me where no mechanics and direct connection is availabe but a deadly delay.

      • tromoly

        The visual may look like lag, but playing the game there is no more lag than any other “sim” on the market.

      • speed1

        Possible but ny experiences teached me when there is such a heavy visual lag which you can see from 100m distance, there is also a input lag, but ok i can’t know and it was silly to argue further without to test pCars by myself.

        Maybe Ian B. can manage to release it in November the 16th on my birthday. :)

      • F1Racer

        Or 4 days before :)

      • speed1

        That would be fine with me as well, maybe it was even a better choice, since it isn’t recommend to drive drunken. :)

        Ian B. are you hearing me, you are welcome to my birthday party. German beer is the best. :) But don’t forget the pCars licence for me. :)

      • speed1

        Your birthday ?

      • F1Racer

        Yips

      • Birddogg66

        Y’all ain’t even Sagitarians!

      • F1Racer

        Nope. Astrology is another load of old hokum anyway.

      • Birddogg66

        My mother popped out 2 kids the day after Thanksgiving 2 years apart.

      • F1Racer

        Thanks for sharing.

      • Birddogg66

        That’s where the Bird comes from!

      • speed1

        :-)

      • speed1

        Skorpion here. :)

      • Birddogg66

        No! On my birthday which is Closer to the US Thanksgiving holiday. :)

    • Birddogg66

      No huge lag and is a fluid in game experience.

      • speed1

        Ok thx for the Info. ;)

  • Christopher Trees

    Tons of pros on GSC and IRACING, why aren’t they covered?

    • F1Racer

      Because it’s a conspiracy aaaarrrgghhh – run for your lives !!!

      Actually I’m pretty sure Barrichello using GSC was covered in the past as was Dale Earnhardt Jr on iRacing (and I think another driver who uses iRacing was covered too iirc).
      Nothing is being deliberately suppressed because with the nature of the Internet it would be pointless. But I doubt every one got a mention if you say ‘tons’. That doesn’t imply anything though.

      • Stepreo

        I can understand some of the negative reactions to the videos being posted. I think it’s cool to see drivers using a sim but when every video posted from a lesser known driver (comparatively to Barrichello, Earnhardt et al.) becomes a separate news item then it gets kind of old and probably sets a dangerous precedence.

        But either way it doesn’t affect my day and Montoya will continue running the #1 sim racing news site! :D

        I am only subscribed to the weekly builds of pCARS, just tested it out yesterday again and enjoyed running one of the classic Fords around the Cadwell Park club circuit, handling was pretty nice. Just wish AMD cards would work better, or is the HD7850 just not sufficient today?

        /words

      • F1Racer

        Hmmm, not sure how a news article of a pro driver racing a sim is old or sets a dangerous precedent.
        How many vids get posted of normal sim racers get posted ? Loads.

    • MontoyaVR

      It isn’t? I’ve done countless stories on the real drivers in GSC, iRacing’s Pro Race of Champions etc. etc.

      • melanieuk1

        This is your site Rob yours, you don’t need to cover anyone you don’t want, you don’t need to explain yourself to anyone, all those that are moaning about you not covering a racing driver that supports their favorite sim, if they don’t like how you run this site, they can always start their own site, this is your blog site.

      • wajdi nujeidat

        LOL!

      • Deatroy

        why ?

      • Gumshoe

        What’s so funny?

      • steve30x

        Whats so funny?

      • https://sites.google.com/site/myvracelog/project-cars/interesting-opportunity-by-ian-bell/About myvracelog

        plus iracing has every pro under the sun, that in itself is a great ad. I can’t even name how many nascar and mazda road to indy drivers (indy pros / former racers / and guys on there way up way way to many to list) i raced with or spoke to on IR. people must be just trolling on pcars about this topic. does not make sense to me.

    • Birddogg66

      In all fairness I have seen articles for GSC upcoming update release and iRacing’s new Nationwide Camaro. However I do agree I would like to see some more coverage for GSC specific Mods if possible.
      iRacing on the other hand outside of platform events does not have much news pertaining to new content because it does not get added that often and builds are FTMP yearly? Not much to cover really.

    • Bakkster

      I submit interesting stuff with ‘report news’ when I find it, do you? Montoya can’t post it if he doesn’t know about it ;)

    • punkfest2000

      Old news dude.

  • Mark Quigley

    I went “Cool, another real life driver enjoying our past time” then I moved on.
    What is wrong with some of you, why must this single news item cause such a fuss?
    I have been reading about real life drivers playing numerous sims and arcade racers for over 10 years and my reaction has always been the same, “oh, cool” then move on.

    • F1Racer

      Exactly !

    • EZehnder

      Fans of the game (and people who simply understand how game development works) have been saying for years that it was on the right track and were absolutely berated and bashed left and right for having the opinion that SMS was making a good sim. Despite SMS having been a large part of the GTR series, we were bashed.

      I think fans of Project CARS simply feel vindicated for having not been cynical, having some faith and being rewarded with a good sim.

  • todemanjack

    pCars is starting to spread like free hamburgers among race drivers. It must be pretty darn good. Or real race drivers wouldn’t bother telling each other to go to the trouble! And it is that good. The haters would love to stop the promotion of pCars, for whatever eats at their groul. But when something taste good people are going to eat it. And if it taste great. It will sell like hot cakes. Looks like pCars is going to be a winner. Inspite of all the opposition it has had to push out of the way from the old crusty Sim Racing Community.

  • Gumshoe

    What I think is disappointing here is that the spin and marketing fluff that’s been shoved down our throats from all the Publisher types, politicians, salespeople and so on over the years has left us all not trusting or believing anyone any more.

    Rene, Phillip and the other RL racers seem to genuinely enjoy Project CARS, regardless of relationship (it has been stated multiple times by Ian that these guys aren’t paid), but the lies, paid comments, spin and over-selling that has occurred in the past has left us all bitter and untrusting (deservedly imo).

    Fair enough for people to doubt the claims and challenge positive news, us gamers have been burnt…

    But Project CARS is a little different. The members in the forum are there to witness all, we see what SMS are up to and we know who the paid guys are (Ben Collins, Nic Hamilton) and we know what the game can and can’t do at any point in time. WMD is a new platform, it’s giving us more access, exposing a bit more of the devs’ world, asking for some trust and assistance and pissing off a few people along the way (the ‘haters’ and the FCA for instance), but it’s a platform with great potential to allow gamers to get more of what they want.

    Let’s all give it a chance, show a little faith, let the ‘old house’ burn and get better games! Sorry if I sound a bit fanboi-ish, but if there’s any opportunity to improve gaming for devs, joe public and dedicated fans alike, WMD is a decent start.

    So what’s it gonna be then ‘ey? ;)

  • Markus Ott

    I am satisfied how perfect the pCARS marketing works. A single pCARS news – 100 comments and counting. Oh how easy it is to play with the minds of the people :)

    • todemanjack

      If you build a good product, “they will come”. Your product markets itself. Especially with todays world wide, instant communications. A bad product will die just as quickly. No matter how much artificial hype you conjure up. I guess Grid2 wasn’t all that successful. Wonder how GridAutosport is doing?

    • Roy Rki

      i was just about to post it. Other sims are lucky with more than 20 comments. Pcars always hovers around 100.

      • F1Racer

        It’s a conspiracy by the ‘haters’ who are really fans and pretend to hate to promote and highlight the threads.
        Oh and all the ‘haters’ are paid by SMS.

        :)

  • Nic Van

    Pcars, AC, GSC.. I love them all but remember they are just games, like Sonic, Mario, outrun, … ;-) It’s all for the fun!

  • Me

    What’s funny is that all the “haters” will eventually buy and enjoy this title…and if they don’t then it’s their loss. So be it.

    • Rlee

      I will enjoy their profits too. They can keep talking, the profit on my $10k will be the sweetest revenge.

  • https://sites.google.com/site/myvracelog/project-cars/interesting-opportunity-by-ian-bell/About myvracelog

    the graphics for me just are not good enough.

    • steve30x

      Did you actually play PCars or are you judging from the video?

      • https://sites.google.com/site/myvracelog/project-cars/interesting-opportunity-by-ian-bell/About myvracelog

        i was being sarcastic. been playing since 1st month. or around then. i have 2 accounts. :)

      • https://sites.google.com/site/myvracelog/project-cars/interesting-opportunity-by-ian-bell/About myvracelog

        i was being sarcastic. been playing since 1st month. or around then. i have 2 accounts. :)

      • Andrew

        You forgot the universal sarcasm emoticon!

  • https://sites.google.com/site/myvracelog/project-cars/interesting-opportunity-by-ian-bell/About myvracelog

    never seen a wheel of that sort, is its a special brand or off brand? anyone know or can talk of price o quality of the wheel in the video?

  • speed1

    Greetings to all developers. I hope you achieve what you deserve, but I am almost sure you can do it, and thanks to all the real drivers they have the courage
    to present themselfs the masses with a race sim. ;)

  • Pablo Coronel

    This is true, i jump too to Project CARS.

    (joke)

    • Birddogg66

      Dry Humor!

  • Roy Rki

    Rast is already training for 24hr Spa with Pcars…

    • LogiForce

      Let’s hope it brings him a win like at the 24h on the Green Hell. ;)

      I am personally happy to see professionals being able to actually use Project CARS for pre-race weekend training.
      Let’s hope it helps them prepare both mentally with some track knowledge refreshment, as well as mechanically via trying out various setup and see how the car reacts in game. Setups which hopefully can translate back to the real car once at the track.

      Also if there is anything off about setting up the car, or how the car responds, or even if something is changed on the track; the developers of Project CARS will probably hear about it (has happened already).

      So yeah, it’s just amazing to see how involved everyone is with the game. The devs, the community and even all the professional drivers.
      It is something that makes me feel secure about further improvement and development of the game post-release, at hopefully the same rate as prior to the release.

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