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This seems to be another great job by SimBin. 

About time Bathurst got recognized by the big guns of the sim racing world. One of the best tracks in the world.

iRacing’s will be laser scanned what about yours Simbin? :)

 Who cares?

who cares if the track is accurate or not??? LOL.

 The overall experience is important, no matter how it was produced…..LOOOOL

Sounds to me like you’re a iracing lifer, why hate on others because you’re too much of a fanboy to like anything else? 

Does it really matter? SimBin makes amazing content for the price. I have recently got into SimRacing (yup, another GT5 fan that wants to become serious) and I enjoyed Race 07 so much that I bought all the content for it, despite it being an old game. It’s not only my newbie opinion, I’ve seen it everywhere too: Race 07 is one of the best and most engaging sims out there. Plus, it’s a great alternative for those of us who don’t earn enough money to spend on iRacing. Race Injection gave me for around $20 what iRacing offers for $200+.

Soldier on, SimBin!

yeah but i don’t like the outrages price of IRacing.
this game is much more cheaper so it is worth the money.

Quality vs Quantity. 

Some prefer Wall Mart, other buy their stuff at a proper store. 
And this is from a Swede,

During 2011 Simbin released these games/expansions. 

2011, The Formula Raceroom Addon. 
2011, STCC the game 2
2011, GT Power
2011, WTCC 2010 pack
2011, Retro Pack
2011, Raceroom the game 2
2011, RACE Injection

And still to this day people have no clue they are being robbed in front of their eyes. 
Yes i expect tough replies to this but all you will do is prove my got damn point. 
Justify it all you want if that makes you feel better inside. Bit like religious people.

You are a moron. 

Only dislikes on my videos on youtube comes from Canada, your country. 
you remember when you ceated 5 accounts on youtube and started talking jibberish on the comment section? 

Yea every dislike i´ve gotten comes from Canada, go figure…. 
And not only that but you actually make it part of your daily life that´s whats really sad. 

5 dislikes in one day from the same user hahaha, little did you brain know that only one dislike counts. 

But your little brain prevailed once again and obviously you created another account which says what low life you really are.

Have fun you illiterate little monkey. 

Now don´t get me wrong…the problem isn´t you disliking my videos. 

the problem is you spending you shitty little life creating youtube accounts to dislike and hate on iRacing. 

You are the lowest life form on earth. Bacteria > you. 

Excuses for not having laserscanned tracks. 

This fanboy crap is getting boring. I come in to read on a nice positive: a track i really enjoy in a new sim we know barely anything about and are excited to see where it goes, and somehow a few idiots have to go into fanboy mode and troll. Why??

Can’t we all just talk about what we enjoy instead of fighting desperately to have the best opinion? You do know it’s just your opinion, right Rush Hour? Do you have to use such an aggressive and belittling tone?

Again, let’s be friendly, let’s got on and be respectful, and if someone reacts like a child, let’s not stoop to their level. And if someone continuously acts like a child, ban the small minded little baby.
 

 You are robbed if someone forces you to buy this stuff. As long as you are free to pay for it, you are not in a position to call this a robbery.

I don´t get your point.

What for excuses? We can decide by our own, what we want and what we care about. And I for myself give a s*** on laser scanning as long as the final product is convincing enough to give a great experience.

You are a marketing victim thinking laser scanning is the only way to get good tracks which in fact is not true.

“And still to this day people have no clue they are being robbed in front of their eyes”

funny to hear that from a iracing fanboy

Why am I robbed in front of my eyes? Your post is entirely composed of a flawed argument. You just threw a list of SimBin productions and say, quite unreasonably, “it’s a robbery” without offering further arguments.

For your information:

Formula Raceroom is a free add-on with a fictional Formula 1 car and the Hockenheim track.
STCC 2 is an expansion with 18 new cars and 6 tracks. Goes for 7 Euros but comes cheaper when bought in bundle with Race: Injection.
GT Power is an expansion featuring 3 new high-powered cars and 2 tracks. Costs 4 Euros and is included in Race: Injection as well.
WTCC 2010 is also an expansion that comes with 4 new cars and updated versions of all the 11 tracks in the WTCC. 7 Euros, and included in Race: Injection too.
Retro Pack is an add-on package that comes with 8 cars that, I suspect but it’s NOT a fact, are ported from GT Legends. It brings two new tracks however, one of them a brilliant hillclimb stage, and costs 4 Euros. Also comes bundled in Race: Injection.
RaceRoom The Game 2: Is a FREE platform used by RaceRoom, SimBin’s community site, to host weekly competitions that award prizes even to those who don’t own any SimBin product. I’m not sure but I think it comes with something around 5 cars (WTCC 320i, a Radical SR3, the Matech Ford GT, the Camaro SS, and the Formula RaceRoom) and 3 or four tracks. As I said, it’s FREE.
And Race: Injection has never been intended to be a completely new title. Instead, its a recopilation of all the previous add-on content that is actually cheaper than buying the expansions one by one. All expansions cost 22 Euros (7+7+4+4=22) but Race: Injection costs 20.

So, how am I being robbed? Is it because I’m being given FREE content like the Formula RR, the Crowne Plaza add-on for Race 07, and RR? Or is it because I’m paying prices that suit my teenager student budget? SimBin has offered me enough content that’s new and interesting at a reasonable price. It may not be rFactor Pro-grade, but it’s some very high quality content. As I said before, I get in SimBin for 20 Euros what in iRacing would cost $200+, and even though it may not be the same quality, it’s not too far from it.

I’m not a religious devotee of SimBin. I still acknowledge that there are some truly great sims out there and I don’t deny their advantages just because my favourite sim title so far is a SimBin title. But one thing I do not like is trolls, and/or people who just say hateful gibberish without proper argumentation.

Alejandro Ramirez has very clearly won this argument.  Sensible response backed by fact.  That is all.

Oh.  And I’m also really looking forward to see what they can do with Bathurst.  

As for laser-scanning…it’s a nice offering, though costly and reflected in the price you pay, but really doesn’t have much bearing on the end-user who will never race on such tracks in real race cars.  Great tool for those who do race in real life, but just a selling point for the rest of us. 

Not laser scanned, not caring. Yes, it makes a difference, and given the fact that we will have plenty of top notch sims between rF2 / AC / iRacing it’ll be getting pretty thin in the “what makes this sim unique and makes me want it” aspect.

Had this been a year ago, then Simbin might have had something, but GTR3 or whatever – dime late, $15 short.

What are the advantages of laser scanned track?.
Besides drawing accuracy and track surface unevenness is something else? They are perceived by the player with the same accuracy?
Change FOV and perspective will be different. Change FFB setting and track bumps will feel differently.
Or is it just Wall Mart vs. local store?

Okay Simbin, this is a cute way to show off your computer desk but it’s time for in-sim video of your 24H Nurburgring and release date. ;)

Advantages are mostly accuracy of turn radius, track and curbing width with proper scaling.  Also another advantage is location of major bumps.  What a lot of people don’t understand is that the resolution of the scan gets massively watered down.  That is where the skill of the track builder comes into play.  He has to take this massive amount of information and break it down to a level your home pc can handle.  It’s not an easy task and it takes many man hours to accomplish. 

Thank you for posting all of that, you actually dissected their whole “how do we make as much money as possible with as little energy as possible” 

I used to play Simbin games ALOT before, it was the best game developer i knew at the time. 
This was when they actually created good games like GTR and GTR2. 

After GTR2 they started re-branding the SAME OLD SH*T day in day out. 
GTR3 might save what´s left of the aura of Simbin but looking at the past projects from them i would not be surpised if GTR3 really should be named GTR Evo 2. 

Can’t leave you alone for a minute can I ?

You need to drop the insults GRH.  I’m sure you’re capable or responding without resorting to that.

GPS tracing gets the elevation, width, and cambers pretty well, but it’s the distinctive bumps that it’s most important for. The bigger bumps at Sunset Bend at Sebring, for example. Usually any other track does a good job of getting the big ones, but I like in iRacing catching a bump I never noticed on TV, then looking back at old footage knowing where the bump is and suddenly seeing the drivers accounting for it.

A REALLY good non-scanned track could probably be just as good as far as feeling like natural pavement with all its settlings and bumps and seams, but with a laser scanned track I can know that it’s exactly how it is.

Yup, the iRacing scanners themselves output a point cloud with 2mm accuracy, then they take that and get a map with roughly one guidepoint every 10cm matching the spline to within 1cm of the scan data.

It may not be accurate to the mm, but 1cm ain’t to bad at all, way more resolution than I would probably ever notice through tires and suspension. :)

Can you please share the pricing list?

Obviously you have seen it as you are claiming it is way cheaper than iRacing.

here is the price list Iracing http://www.iracing.com/membership/
I am not going to pay a price for that game it is just to high i don’t know the price of GTR3 but i think it will be a lot cheaper.