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		<title>By: Mitos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mitos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>U spend your time on rubbish! Where MMG 2008 Mod?</description>
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		<title>By: Ragster</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/mmg-announces-btcc-1998-mod/comment-page-2#comment-12424</link>
		<dc:creator>Ragster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 20:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dont u just love the peace and quiet  :wink:</description>
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		<title>By: Ragster</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/mmg-announces-btcc-1998-mod/comment-page-2#comment-12307</link>
		<dc:creator>Ragster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 17:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can we actually get back on topic ffs.
Take ur abusive post some where else,stop hijacking this thread plse.
FFS where is the god damm admin here!!

Plse just answer my question if u can,Will we if the mod comes out of course,i believe it will.Will we have all the correct teams and cars or is the license thing gonna kill that.?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we actually get back on topic ffs.<br />
Take ur abusive post some where else,stop hijacking this thread plse.<br />
FFS where is the god damm admin here!!</p>
<p>Plse just answer my question if u can,Will we if the mod comes out of course,i believe it will.Will we have all the correct teams and cars or is the license thing gonna kill that.?</p>
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		<title>By: X</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/mmg-announces-btcc-1998-mod/comment-page-2#comment-12222</link>
		<dc:creator>X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 19:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ye the stuff i say looks like i make it up because its so crazy but its actually true because petros is crazy. Everything i said he posted on the mmg forums for everyone to see becuase as i said he loves attention. the guy is nuts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ye the stuff i say looks like i make it up because its so crazy but its actually true because petros is crazy. Everything i said he posted on the mmg forums for everyone to see becuase as i said he loves attention. the guy is nuts.</p>
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		<title>By: Compo</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/mmg-announces-btcc-1998-mod/comment-page-2#comment-12221</link>
		<dc:creator>Compo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 19:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1 defending post makes me fanboy lol ?
All this stuff you post about petros looks like you make it up as you go along. How is it you know so much about a person you hate ?
I dont care about anything petros says or does.  If the mods come and they are good that is all that matters. Do not want to get involved in politics. costs too much spare time. lifes too short</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1 defending post makes me fanboy lol ?<br />
All this stuff you post about petros looks like you make it up as you go along. How is it you know so much about a person you hate ?<br />
I dont care about anything petros says or does.  If the mods come and they are good that is all that matters. Do not want to get involved in politics. costs too much spare time. lifes too short</p>
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		<title>By: X</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/mmg-announces-btcc-1998-mod/comment-page-2#comment-12220</link>
		<dc:creator>X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 19:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>compo i saw you make a post earlier in this thread defending mmg, like a true fanboy. You like sucking petros mak&#039;s fat ass just like F1racer.

This mmg circus is such a joke. Petros pretends mmg is real company and boasts on forums how its a full time profession and that he works 15 hours a day 7 days a week with mmg. LOL.

Wanna be somebody.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>compo i saw you make a post earlier in this thread defending mmg, like a true fanboy. You like sucking petros mak&#8217;s fat ass just like F1racer.</p>
<p>This mmg circus is such a joke. Petros pretends mmg is real company and boasts on forums how its a full time profession and that he works 15 hours a day 7 days a week with mmg. LOL.</p>
<p>Wanna be somebody.</p>
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		<title>By: X</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/mmg-announces-btcc-1998-mod/comment-page-2#comment-12219</link>
		<dc:creator>X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Skuller, if the company is a sham, and the CEO is corrupt and you are aware of this but still keep working there and supporting him, then you are implicated in the corruption. Anyone who supports petros mak&#039;s lies, has to share the blame.

Because hes such useless leader he wastes everyones time, from the public to his own workers because the team has no focus and he gets them to work on 20 mods at once so nothing ever gets finished. He just exploits everyones skills and dedication to big note himself, and the result is no mods. In 3 years one buggy mod with shit physics and no sounds, plus all the other mods like 94 mod where people wasted time for years and it didnt get finished because he fucked around with another 50 mods.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skuller, if the company is a sham, and the CEO is corrupt and you are aware of this but still keep working there and supporting him, then you are implicated in the corruption. Anyone who supports petros mak&#8217;s lies, has to share the blame.</p>
<p>Because hes such useless leader he wastes everyones time, from the public to his own workers because the team has no focus and he gets them to work on 20 mods at once so nothing ever gets finished. He just exploits everyones skills and dedication to big note himself, and the result is no mods. In 3 years one buggy mod with shit physics and no sounds, plus all the other mods like 94 mod where people wasted time for years and it didnt get finished because he fucked around with another 50 mods.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>freakin funny , continue plz  :mrgreen:</description>
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		<title>By: Compo</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/mmg-announces-btcc-1998-mod/comment-page-2#comment-12211</link>
		<dc:creator>Compo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A fanboy ? You do not even know me.  Who r u to judge me ?
You only say this because i dont take ur side like f1racer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A fanboy ? You do not even know me.  Who r u to judge me ?<br />
You only say this because i dont take ur side like f1racer.</p>
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		<title>By: Skuller36</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/mmg-announces-btcc-1998-mod/comment-page-2#comment-12209</link>
		<dc:creator>Skuller36</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You keep saying we shouldnt bash all of mmg because of the actions of one individual, well sorry but hes the leader of MMG and everyone associated in his group shares the responsiblity for his actions because they are his tools, and they allow him to scam the community.&quot;

this is so stupid. the community has not been scamed.
looks like you have personal vendeta with this petros guy and you just want to insult him and anyone who you think is not agreeing with you.   if the boss of a company is caught stealing money you cannot blame all the workers and say they also are responsible.  you make a bad point.


&quot;If the MMG idiots had half a brain and weret so brain washed they would all leave mmg and work without petros because they dont need him. He has ZERO modding skill and just likes playing LEADER and getting attention. &quot;

another bad point. if this petros has modding skills and is not modding himself and he is just playing leader then what is he doing?  if its nothing then it means the group are working without him.  he is not part of actual modding just maybe hanging around sometimes.  all i know for me is that I try mmg07 and I like it and I think they now make a new better one and an 08 one. the work looks good to me so whatever is the problem with them it is not having effect on their mods.  so i dont know what is your problem except it must be just personal with you and him.  because of it you make more enemies.  all this because of a btcc mod announce.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You keep saying we shouldnt bash all of mmg because of the actions of one individual, well sorry but hes the leader of MMG and everyone associated in his group shares the responsiblity for his actions because they are his tools, and they allow him to scam the community.&#8221;</p>
<p>this is so stupid. the community has not been scamed.<br />
looks like you have personal vendeta with this petros guy and you just want to insult him and anyone who you think is not agreeing with you.   if the boss of a company is caught stealing money you cannot blame all the workers and say they also are responsible.  you make a bad point.</p>
<p>&#8220;If the MMG idiots had half a brain and weret so brain washed they would all leave mmg and work without petros because they dont need him. He has ZERO modding skill and just likes playing LEADER and getting attention. &#8221;</p>
<p>another bad point. if this petros has modding skills and is not modding himself and he is just playing leader then what is he doing?  if its nothing then it means the group are working without him.  he is not part of actual modding just maybe hanging around sometimes.  all i know for me is that I try mmg07 and I like it and I think they now make a new better one and an 08 one. the work looks good to me so whatever is the problem with them it is not having effect on their mods.  so i dont know what is your problem except it must be just personal with you and him.  because of it you make more enemies.  all this because of a btcc mod announce.</p>
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		<title>By: X</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/mmg-announces-btcc-1998-mod/comment-page-2#comment-12200</link>
		<dc:creator>X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to be insulting so I dont care. Your a MMG fanboy so I dont expect you to be on my side. You stupid like the rest of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to be insulting so I dont care. Your a MMG fanboy so I dont expect you to be on my side. You stupid like the rest of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Compo</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/mmg-announces-btcc-1998-mod/comment-page-2#comment-12198</link>
		<dc:creator>Compo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>X, man from what I have read so far you are on a losing battle mate. You really do come across like a angry kid with a big sulk on.  its like talk from a playground.
Even if you were right in half of the things you are saying you have no idea how to get your point across in a decent proper way without being insulting.  
with every post you are just losing more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>X, man from what I have read so far you are on a losing battle mate. You really do come across like a angry kid with a big sulk on.  its like talk from a playground.<br />
Even if you were right in half of the things you are saying you have no idea how to get your point across in a decent proper way without being insulting.<br />
with every post you are just losing more.</p>
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		<title>By: X</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/mmg-announces-btcc-1998-mod/comment-page-2#comment-12190</link>
		<dc:creator>X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So im a cancerous tumour but petros mak the biggest lying turd in the community isnt? lol. As I said your scared to confront him or too stupid to see what he really is. I think its a bit of both.

You keep saying we shouldnt bash all of mmg because of the actions of one individual, well sorry but hes the leader of MMG and everyone associated in his group shares the responsiblity for his actions because they are his tools, and they allow him to scam the community. Without them petros wouldnt be anyone and no one would pay attention to him so they all deserved to be bashed including you. So dont come here breaching like some saint when your responsbile for spreading the petros mak cancer you brain washed idiot.

I bet you conned your personal friend koen to join MMG so petros could have another puppet to play with didnt you.

And Petros is scared to confront me so hes the one whos mentally beaten by me. He knows im not as stupid as you guys and I dont fall for his crap. In case you dont know this all amused me and I laugh my ass off reading about petros&#039;s latest &#039;announcments&#039; and scams and then seeing you popping up and defending him, after hes lied to ur face and played you like a fool.

If the MMG idiots had half a brain and weret so brain washed they would all leave mmg and work without petros because they dont need him. He has ZERO modding skill and just likes playing LEADER and getting attention. But they are too stupid to do that and see the truth just like you. You petros mak muppet. Mum must be proud of you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So im a cancerous tumour but petros mak the biggest lying turd in the community isnt? lol. As I said your scared to confront him or too stupid to see what he really is. I think its a bit of both.</p>
<p>You keep saying we shouldnt bash all of mmg because of the actions of one individual, well sorry but hes the leader of MMG and everyone associated in his group shares the responsiblity for his actions because they are his tools, and they allow him to scam the community. Without them petros wouldnt be anyone and no one would pay attention to him so they all deserved to be bashed including you. So dont come here breaching like some saint when your responsbile for spreading the petros mak cancer you brain washed idiot.</p>
<p>I bet you conned your personal friend koen to join MMG so petros could have another puppet to play with didnt you.</p>
<p>And Petros is scared to confront me so hes the one whos mentally beaten by me. He knows im not as stupid as you guys and I dont fall for his crap. In case you dont know this all amused me and I laugh my ass off reading about petros&#8217;s latest &#8216;announcments&#8217; and scams and then seeing you popping up and defending him, after hes lied to ur face and played you like a fool.</p>
<p>If the MMG idiots had half a brain and weret so brain washed they would all leave mmg and work without petros because they dont need him. He has ZERO modding skill and just likes playing LEADER and getting attention. But they are too stupid to do that and see the truth just like you. You petros mak muppet. Mum must be proud of you.</p>
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		<title>By: F1Racer</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/mmg-announces-btcc-1998-mod/comment-page-2#comment-12182</link>
		<dc:creator>F1Racer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>trudat: firstly thanks for that even though I haven&#039;t been up to much in the render dept. lately :) 
But why do you, like X-man here insist on seeing it as me supporting Petros ?
This is not the case.
Its quite simply the case that I don&#039;t see that its fair that an entire mod group, whoever they might be, gets bashed by some idiot because of the actions or inactions of 1 person in that group.
Don&#039;t you see that as wrong ?  
People continue in the group, I suppose, because they themselves have a passion for doing what they&#039;re doing and well...they must obviously be happy where they are for some reason.
Koen is modelling for them and his last work was on the RH mod. Koen is also a personal friend of mine and so I dont take it lightly when jerks like X come along and tar everyone with the same brush he is with Petros.
This is like me assuming all his family are idiotic fools just because he is.
I don&#039;t think the MMG people need to find a new home as you put it. I doubt they are being treated bad and if they did move, well, thats just letting people like X win isn&#039;t it ?
Personally I`d rather see him being forced to act like the maniac he is now and post his nonsense because he just can&#039;t let go.
For some reason that gives me a great satisfaction to see that X cannot resist himself when MMG is mentioned.  
Like I said its a fixation he has and as long as he has it and doesn&#039;t let go, Petros has mentally beaten him.  The very thing he disses others for.  Oh the irony :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>trudat: firstly thanks for that even though I haven&#8217;t been up to much in the render dept. lately :)<br />
But why do you, like X-man here insist on seeing it as me supporting Petros ?<br />
This is not the case.<br />
Its quite simply the case that I don&#8217;t see that its fair that an entire mod group, whoever they might be, gets bashed by some idiot because of the actions or inactions of 1 person in that group.<br />
Don&#8217;t you see that as wrong ?<br />
People continue in the group, I suppose, because they themselves have a passion for doing what they&#8217;re doing and well&#8230;they must obviously be happy where they are for some reason.<br />
Koen is modelling for them and his last work was on the RH mod. Koen is also a personal friend of mine and so I dont take it lightly when jerks like X come along and tar everyone with the same brush he is with Petros.<br />
This is like me assuming all his family are idiotic fools just because he is.<br />
I don&#8217;t think the MMG people need to find a new home as you put it. I doubt they are being treated bad and if they did move, well, thats just letting people like X win isn&#8217;t it ?<br />
Personally I`d rather see him being forced to act like the maniac he is now and post his nonsense because he just can&#8217;t let go.<br />
For some reason that gives me a great satisfaction to see that X cannot resist himself when MMG is mentioned.<br />
Like I said its a fixation he has and as long as he has it and doesn&#8217;t let go, Petros has mentally beaten him.  The very thing he disses others for.  Oh the irony :)</p>
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		<title>By: trudat</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/mmg-announces-btcc-1998-mod/comment-page-2#comment-12175</link>
		<dc:creator>trudat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well you 2 are now way to personal to respond to eachother civily lol...anyway as I said, your reputation as someone who provides great work for the community is being tarnished as you continue to support Petros by proxy.  The mmg modders should really find a new home for themselves as they are obvious talented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well you 2 are now way to personal to respond to eachother civily lol&#8230;anyway as I said, your reputation as someone who provides great work for the community is being tarnished as you continue to support Petros by proxy.  The mmg modders should really find a new home for themselves as they are obvious talented.</p>
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		<title>By: F1Racer</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/mmg-announces-btcc-1998-mod/comment-page-2#comment-12165</link>
		<dc:creator>F1Racer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>X: LOL, you&#039;re so pathetic and sad. I feel sorry for you in the same way I would for a retarded monkey. 
Acting all big and hard behind your keyboard in your bedroom and hiding with an anonymous generic nickname.
So scary I could almost yawn.

Here you are slagging off Petros, and I&#039;m slagging you off.
So how does it equate that I&#039;m scared of Petros but not of you ?
Not quite logical is it ? In fact nothing of what you say makes any sense. 
I dont have any problem saying anything negative about you and you seem to think you&#039;re the tough guy.
You prefer going after the ones you see as weak.

The fact that I defend against cancerous tumours in the community such as yourself only proves I have principals.
Again this is something you STILL haven&#039;t managed to understand. A chimp could have read my posts and understood them better than you have.

You&#039;re just pissed because my principals don&#039;t agree with you.  
Well get over yourself.  If you think that what you have is guts then you&#039;re an even bigger fool than I took you for if that is even possible.

You have no idea how much I cleaned up this post before I posted.  Again my principals got in the way because you are in no way worthy of me posting what I really want to say here.
There are people here I have respect for that dont deserve to have to read the words I had reserved for someone like you.   So I becamse as weak as piss and spinless and toned it down :)

P.S. Dont try too hard in your next post and dont expect a reply either because Im done with you. You are not worth any more of my time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>X: LOL, you&#8217;re so pathetic and sad. I feel sorry for you in the same way I would for a retarded monkey.<br />
Acting all big and hard behind your keyboard in your bedroom and hiding with an anonymous generic nickname.<br />
So scary I could almost yawn.</p>
<p>Here you are slagging off Petros, and I&#8217;m slagging you off.<br />
So how does it equate that I&#8217;m scared of Petros but not of you ?<br />
Not quite logical is it ? In fact nothing of what you say makes any sense.<br />
I dont have any problem saying anything negative about you and you seem to think you&#8217;re the tough guy.<br />
You prefer going after the ones you see as weak.</p>
<p>The fact that I defend against cancerous tumours in the community such as yourself only proves I have principals.<br />
Again this is something you STILL haven&#8217;t managed to understand. A chimp could have read my posts and understood them better than you have.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re just pissed because my principals don&#8217;t agree with you.<br />
Well get over yourself.  If you think that what you have is guts then you&#8217;re an even bigger fool than I took you for if that is even possible.</p>
<p>You have no idea how much I cleaned up this post before I posted.  Again my principals got in the way because you are in no way worthy of me posting what I really want to say here.<br />
There are people here I have respect for that dont deserve to have to read the words I had reserved for someone like you.   So I becamse as weak as piss and spinless and toned it down :)</p>
<p>P.S. Dont try too hard in your next post and dont expect a reply either because Im done with you. You are not worth any more of my time.</p>
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		<title>By: X</title>
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		<dc:creator>X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 13:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your mummy didnt bring you up very well if you believe that con artists and liars should be ignored and defended. No they should be exposed and crushed, but you need guts for that, something which you clearly dont have. Your too scared to say a single negative thing about petros publicly, your weak as pisss and have no principles.

And if any members dont beleive his stories but still work for mmg then they are spineless and pathetic for supporting someone they know lies to them thinks they are stupid.</description>
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<p>And if any members dont beleive his stories but still work for mmg then they are spineless and pathetic for supporting someone they know lies to them thinks they are stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: F1Racer</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/mmg-announces-btcc-1998-mod/comment-page-2#comment-12080</link>
		<dc:creator>F1Racer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>X: well at least you&#039;ve slightly improved your post content. I&#039;m almost mildly impressed.  
As I expected you are still saying I am defending them but its not really the issue as Ive already explained. I&#039;m not on the defensive for them.  I&#039;m on the offensive against you.You don&#039;t seem to be able to grasp that concept.

But I will say in their defense that MMG might not be the perfect mod group or have the cleanest history but that doesn&#039;t give you automatic rights to lambast and ridicule them at every turn. You are totally entitled to your opinion and thats fine. But feeling the way you do, if you were any sort of a mature person you`d just distance yourself from it and probably not even comment where they are concerned.

Apart from the attention which you seem to crave, if anyone is sucked in with what MMG have done, it is you.  Because they certainly manage to draw you out of the woodwork when there&#039;s news.
Its like you&#039;ve been baited by them and can&#039;t let go.   I did let go (for my own reasons).   So now who&#039;s being manipulated? With you its sub-conscious or instictive and you can&#039;t get away from MMG because of the way you feel about Petros.  So in a way, he`s got YOU.  Think about it.

How do you think I am being manipulated ? For a start I dont have any contact with him these days ? 
My work at the time with MMG, as your know, involved a little beta testing and some renders. That was it mate.
 
I think you know I can form my own opinions from all that went on back then and if you think I blindly accepted all of those &#039;stories&#039; then I can tell you now you are very wrong. Heh, you can ask Petros himself about that :)
But I dont have to justify myself to you now do I ?

Nowadays I&#039;m not involved with any mod group any more because I decided that was the best way to be.
Draw your own conclusions from that and see if you can work out who&#039;s the most &#039;manipulated&#039; here.
I&#039;m only posting here because I reckon I know who you are and I dont appreciate having to read posts from you with that attitude.
You are posting because you still have an attachment with MMG, only its not a friendly one.  Between the two of us, it is you who cannot pull away.
Oh and please don&#039;t assume to know what I believe and what I don&#039;t because you have nooooo idea whatsoever.  
Also to criticise all the mod members as &quot;idiots&quot; because you think, like you do with me, that they &#039;believe all the stories&#039; is the most ill thought out and ignorant thing you&#039;ve come up with.  The arrogance of that alone is astounding.
Your posts, with the slight exception of this last one, are the ramblings of a child and deserve no respect or credibility whatsoever.   Kind of like how you think of MMG really.  Maybe you&#039;re more alike than you think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>X: well at least you&#8217;ve slightly improved your post content. I&#8217;m almost mildly impressed.<br />
As I expected you are still saying I am defending them but its not really the issue as Ive already explained. I&#8217;m not on the defensive for them.  I&#8217;m on the offensive against you.You don&#8217;t seem to be able to grasp that concept.</p>
<p>But I will say in their defense that MMG might not be the perfect mod group or have the cleanest history but that doesn&#8217;t give you automatic rights to lambast and ridicule them at every turn. You are totally entitled to your opinion and thats fine. But feeling the way you do, if you were any sort of a mature person you`d just distance yourself from it and probably not even comment where they are concerned.</p>
<p>Apart from the attention which you seem to crave, if anyone is sucked in with what MMG have done, it is you.  Because they certainly manage to draw you out of the woodwork when there&#8217;s news.<br />
Its like you&#8217;ve been baited by them and can&#8217;t let go.   I did let go (for my own reasons).   So now who&#8217;s being manipulated? With you its sub-conscious or instictive and you can&#8217;t get away from MMG because of the way you feel about Petros.  So in a way, he`s got YOU.  Think about it.</p>
<p>How do you think I am being manipulated ? For a start I dont have any contact with him these days ?<br />
My work at the time with MMG, as your know, involved a little beta testing and some renders. That was it mate.</p>
<p>I think you know I can form my own opinions from all that went on back then and if you think I blindly accepted all of those &#8216;stories&#8217; then I can tell you now you are very wrong. Heh, you can ask Petros himself about that :)<br />
But I dont have to justify myself to you now do I ?</p>
<p>Nowadays I&#8217;m not involved with any mod group any more because I decided that was the best way to be.<br />
Draw your own conclusions from that and see if you can work out who&#8217;s the most &#8216;manipulated&#8217; here.<br />
I&#8217;m only posting here because I reckon I know who you are and I dont appreciate having to read posts from you with that attitude.<br />
You are posting because you still have an attachment with MMG, only its not a friendly one.  Between the two of us, it is you who cannot pull away.<br />
Oh and please don&#8217;t assume to know what I believe and what I don&#8217;t because you have nooooo idea whatsoever.<br />
Also to criticise all the mod members as &#8220;idiots&#8221; because you think, like you do with me, that they &#8216;believe all the stories&#8217; is the most ill thought out and ignorant thing you&#8217;ve come up with.  The arrogance of that alone is astounding.<br />
Your posts, with the slight exception of this last one, are the ramblings of a child and deserve no respect or credibility whatsoever.   Kind of like how you think of MMG really.  Maybe you&#8217;re more alike than you think.</p>
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		<title>By: X</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/mmg-announces-btcc-1998-mod/comment-page-2#comment-12069</link>
		<dc:creator>X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 06:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>F1racer dont compare MMG to the other mod groups because you are insulting all those serious mod groups although fsone with that idiot phil sousa was just as bad, thats why phil and petros make a good couple. MMG deserves to get bashed and only a fool would defend them. You say that petros being a lair doesnt effect the groups ability to make mods? Well how many mods has mmg ever created and why did all the most skilled people leave mmg like renato simoni and others? Because they saw through petros&#039;s bullshit.

In 3 years with so many people working for him what is the output of mighty MMG and petros mak? ONE mod with good models, no sounds and shit physics. And your actually defending them? All the other mod groups in that period of time have produced multiple mods all far superior to the mmg crap. They are a joke and waste the time of the community and the team members who just get used by petros mak in his little games.

You say all my lines are laughable and your right they are because im just repeating what petros has said. Funny thing is you beleive those laughable lines just because petros sucks upto you and calls you &#039;bro&#039;. Your like a naive little child manipulated by that fat turd petros mak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>F1racer dont compare MMG to the other mod groups because you are insulting all those serious mod groups although fsone with that idiot phil sousa was just as bad, thats why phil and petros make a good couple. MMG deserves to get bashed and only a fool would defend them. You say that petros being a lair doesnt effect the groups ability to make mods? Well how many mods has mmg ever created and why did all the most skilled people leave mmg like renato simoni and others? Because they saw through petros&#8217;s bullshit.</p>
<p>In 3 years with so many people working for him what is the output of mighty MMG and petros mak? ONE mod with good models, no sounds and shit physics. And your actually defending them? All the other mod groups in that period of time have produced multiple mods all far superior to the mmg crap. They are a joke and waste the time of the community and the team members who just get used by petros mak in his little games.</p>
<p>You say all my lines are laughable and your right they are because im just repeating what petros has said. Funny thing is you beleive those laughable lines just because petros sucks upto you and calls you &#8216;bro&#8217;. Your like a naive little child manipulated by that fat turd petros mak.</p>
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		<title>By: [GC]Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/mmg-announces-btcc-1998-mod/comment-page-2#comment-12026</link>
		<dc:creator>[GC]Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MMG announced there 2007 mod,they made it, and they released it. Fantastic stuff.

MMG Anounced there 1994 mod, and they are still working on it, hopefully it will be as good, if not better than 2007.

MMG anounces BTCC 1998 mod, i cant wait, and hope for it to bw good :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MMG announced there 2007 mod,they made it, and they released it. Fantastic stuff.</p>
<p>MMG Anounced there 1994 mod, and they are still working on it, hopefully it will be as good, if not better than 2007.</p>
<p>MMG anounces BTCC 1998 mod, i cant wait, and hope for it to bw good :-)</p>
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