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		<title>By: ToLyAn</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/logitech-g25-on-steroids-previews/comment-page-1/#comment-22308</link>
		<dc:creator>ToLyAn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 00:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This one is on steroids? I don’t think so.  :weird: 
For some strange reason :sd: i always thought that if someone uses a similar combination of the words (g25 + on + steroids) that it means only one announced more than a year ago specific and unique modification: 

http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?t=313401
http://www.jlvrh.de/JL_Wheel_UK.htm

Now. THIS ONE really bad ass pumped with steroids wheel.  :happyevil:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This one is on steroids? I don’t think so.  <img src='http://www.virtualr.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif' alt=':weird:' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
For some strange reason <img src='http://www.virtualr.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif' alt=':sd:' class='wp-smiley' /> i always thought that if someone uses a similar combination of the words (g25 + on + steroids) that it means only one announced more than a year ago specific and unique modification: </p>
<p><a href="http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?t=313401" rel="nofollow">http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?t=313401</a><br />
<a href="http://www.jlvrh.de/JL_Wheel_UK.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.jlvrh.de/JL_Wheel_UK.htm</a></p>
<p>Now. THIS ONE really bad ass pumped with steroids wheel.  <img src='http://www.virtualr.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif' alt=':happyevil:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Raikku, but after reading your comments for this subject, it seems that you don&#039;t know/understand what it is about.

Cheers.


S.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Raikku, but after reading your comments for this subject, it seems that you don&#8217;t know/understand what it is about.</p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
<p>S.</p>
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		<title>By: Raikku</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/logitech-g25-on-steroids-previews/comment-page-1/#comment-16909</link>
		<dc:creator>Raikku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 15:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, just put 220v from the wall directly to G25 and you get all the forces that you&#039;ve dreamed of...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, just put 220v from the wall directly to G25 and you get all the forces that you&#8217;ve dreamed of&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/logitech-g25-on-steroids-previews/comment-page-1/#comment-16907</link>
		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 13:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi all,

Form my point of view, it seems that they have just raise the voltage of the ffb engines, for producing a stronger force.
It could also explain the necessary adjunction of the fans.

S.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all,</p>
<p>Form my point of view, it seems that they have just raise the voltage of the ffb engines, for producing a stronger force.<br />
It could also explain the necessary adjunction of the fans.</p>
<p>S.</p>
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		<title>By: maxs</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/logitech-g25-on-steroids-previews/comment-page-1/#comment-16887</link>
		<dc:creator>maxs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 02:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i just wonder how long will this steroided G25 will live ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i just wonder how long will this steroided G25 will live &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Papa_K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Papa_K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 19:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This may be very nice... but above anything else for the G25, I&#039;d like to see a commercially produced wheel-buttons-addon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This may be very nice&#8230; but above anything else for the G25, I&#8217;d like to see a commercially produced wheel-buttons-addon.</p>
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		<title>By: fpol</title>
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		<dc:creator>fpol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 18:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t know how many of you lift weights, but look at it like this.  A guy who easily can bench 280 lbs can more &quot;delicately&quot; move 120 due to the fact that it&#039;s pretty light to him.  The guy who benches 120 as a max, has no finesse when moving it.  *that* may be the benefit - with greater max stength, you may be able to set the overall FF lower, and still get *all* of the forces generated accurately.

I don&#039;t know...I know that the FRex wheel is much more powerful than the G25, and the users (many moved from G25s) say its better.  Of course it&#039;s expected for them to say it&#039;s better...it cost them $2K ;).

Sound...don&#039;t many simmers use headphones anyway? What&#039;s the big deal with it being too loud?  Heck, my game box can sound like a tornado at full throttle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t know how many of you lift weights, but look at it like this.  A guy who easily can bench 280 lbs can more &#8220;delicately&#8221; move 120 due to the fact that it&#8217;s pretty light to him.  The guy who benches 120 as a max, has no finesse when moving it.  *that* may be the benefit &#8211; with greater max stength, you may be able to set the overall FF lower, and still get *all* of the forces generated accurately.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know&#8230;I know that the FRex wheel is much more powerful than the G25, and the users (many moved from G25s) say its better.  Of course it&#8217;s expected for them to say it&#8217;s better&#8230;it cost them $2K ;).</p>
<p>Sound&#8230;don&#8217;t many simmers use headphones anyway? What&#8217;s the big deal with it being too loud?  Heck, my game box can sound like a tornado at full throttle.</p>
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		<title>By: Gopher04</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gopher04</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 15:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don’t see any point for this niether....</description>
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		<title>By: 2point8</title>
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		<dc:creator>2point8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 14:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like all my 10 fingers, that thing scares the crap out of me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like all my 10 fingers, that thing scares the crap out of me!</p>
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		<title>By: Raikku</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raikku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 13:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see any point for this. You don&#039;t need more forces to G25, you can already get them too forceful if you just put levels high enough from games/profiler.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see any point for this. You don&#8217;t need more forces to G25, you can already get them too forceful if you just put levels high enough from games/profiler.</p>
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		<title>By: ScHiRoCk</title>
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		<dc:creator>ScHiRoCk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 13:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my opinion i dont see the improvement, who cares about calibrating times...

BUT, i everytime i startup my pc it does that turning thing, but always that click after hitting the utter right/leftside of the wheel, i always think it will break someday because of it...  :neutral:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my opinion i dont see the improvement, who cares about calibrating times&#8230;</p>
<p>BUT, i everytime i startup my pc it does that turning thing, but always that click after hitting the utter right/leftside of the wheel, i always think it will break someday because of it&#8230;  <img src='http://www.virtualr.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif' alt=':neutral:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: TeroD</title>
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		<dc:creator>TeroD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 08:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess they are after more responsive (reactive?) wheel. As laiders71 (and Niels) pointed out with his so called Niels test videos, the current FFB wheels aren&#039;t responsive enough.

911 wheel test: Comparision of FF with DFP (The Niels test)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW2ybcWmg9w

911 wheel test: FF test 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6o7bVIkjdo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess they are after more responsive (reactive?) wheel. As laiders71 (and Niels) pointed out with his so called Niels test videos, the current FFB wheels aren&#8217;t responsive enough.</p>
<p>911 wheel test: Comparision of FF with DFP (The Niels test)<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW2ybcWmg9w" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW2ybcWmg9w</a></p>
<p>911 wheel test: FF test 2<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6o7bVIkjdo" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6o7bVIkjdo</a></p>
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		<title>By: AeroMechanical</title>
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		<dc:creator>AeroMechanical</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 03:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, of course it&#039;s going to make it louder.  If they used high quality fans, or a very low rpm fans, it&#039;s probably okay though.  And any noise problems are usually rectified by having the volume at the appropriate level.  :happy:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, of course it&#8217;s going to make it louder.  If they used high quality fans, or a very low rpm fans, it&#8217;s probably okay though.  And any noise problems are usually rectified by having the volume at the appropriate level.  <img src='http://www.virtualr.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':happy:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: navalhawkeye</title>
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		<dc:creator>navalhawkeye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 01:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even louder? My G25 is almost silent...certainly much less noisy than the Momo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even louder? My G25 is almost silent&#8230;certainly much less noisy than the Momo.</p>
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		<title>By: AeroMechanical</title>
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		<dc:creator>AeroMechanical</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 23:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stronger motor and now fans too, huh?  So, their aim was to make it even louder?  I don&#039;t really see the amount of force being much of an issue.  More precise forces with a greater dynamic range, sure, but just a linear ramp up in strength doesn&#039;t strike me as worth a whole lot.  If it can manage to produce strong forces while still allowing the subtlety of the weaker forces to be felt, that would be something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stronger motor and now fans too, huh?  So, their aim was to make it even louder?  I don&#8217;t really see the amount of force being much of an issue.  More precise forces with a greater dynamic range, sure, but just a linear ramp up in strength doesn&#8217;t strike me as worth a whole lot.  If it can manage to produce strong forces while still allowing the subtlety of the weaker forces to be felt, that would be something.</p>
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		<title>By: Vkt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vkt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 23:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol wtf is this?  :weird:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol wtf is this?  <img src='http://www.virtualr.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif' alt=':weird:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tifose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tifose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 22:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slap Nuts!!!  :eek:  that look like fun or Hospital?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slap Nuts!!!  <img src='http://www.virtualr.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif' alt=':eek:' class='wp-smiley' />  that look like fun or Hospital?</p>
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		<title>By: F1Racer</title>
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		<dc:creator>F1Racer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 22:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it is too violent wont that also risk longer term damage to the wrists etc or whatever ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it is too violent wont that also risk longer term damage to the wrists etc or whatever ?</p>
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		<title>By: -eRNIe-</title>
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		<dc:creator>-eRNIe-</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 22:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay....it calibrates very fast, but .... what are the improvements in detail? (beside the fans)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay&#8230;.it calibrates very fast, but &#8230;. what are the improvements in detail? (beside the fans)</p>
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		<title>By: Siggs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Siggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 22:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:weird: That FFB in the vid seems excessively violent, don&#039;t you think? The Fanatec 911 turbo is considered to have strong ffb, and spins about the same speed as the standard G25. I do hope its not like that while racing, and it being that violent could well damage the wheel?
.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <img src='http://www.virtualr.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif' alt=':weird:' class='wp-smiley' /> That FFB in the vid seems excessively violent, don&#8217;t you think? The Fanatec 911 turbo is considered to have strong ffb, and spins about the same speed as the standard G25. I do hope its not like that while racing, and it being that violent could well damage the wheel?<br />
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