why do people always start to comment on things they dont like? If you dont like it , then just dont do it. trying to slander it , says more about the poster then the tracks IMO

And, the people that are complaining about more ovals, just go away. You are so one sided, it’s getting extremely old. We (oval racers, Americans (road or oval racers)), have put up with nothing but Euro tracks and cars for what, 7 years? We have very rarely even complained about that. But, now we actually get a chance to have American ovals, and road courses and the massive complaining starts right up. Get over yourselves.

Rafaela track:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgZMo9_0jGQ

Bonus, turn up the speakers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsIzZV1_mZw

ermax18:
The “average” NASCAR fan thinks road racing means racing on public streets from light to light. They don’t bash it because they don’t even know other forms of racing exist. Again, I am talking about the “average” person here.

Pretty much. Oh yeah and watch out when attending a race in person. The confederate flag waving knuckle dragging types tend to bring down the family atmosphere at these events.

ermax18:

I must be be missing something. What makes this left hand circle any more interesting then the others?

This track is the longest of all NASCAR tracks and only one of two on which restrictor plates are used.

Just because they´re all ovals doesen’t mean they´re the same or provide the same racing. Saying that Talladega and (for example) Martinsville are “the same” is as ignorant as saying Le Mans and the Nordschleife are the same because they have both corners and straights.

If you ever bothered to watch a race at Talladega you can instantly notice how different it is compared to other ovals. Partly because of the restrictor plate which allows to the full field to run together. But even Daytona and Talladega as restrictor plate tracks are very different as Talladega allows three-wide racing while Daytona usually does not.

Montoya:
True, the United States definetely have some of the most amazing road courses in the world. Pretty much everything in Europe has ever been closed or heavily altered with pretty much just the Nürburgring Nordschleife as exception.

I disagree with you. There are wonderful road courses in the US, but IMO Zandvoort, Spa-Francorchamps and even Hockenheimring have been altered to better. They perhaps lack the thrill factor they had in the 60-70′s but they are nevertheless great for close and exciting racing.

timwheatley:

And their race tracks are not as sanatised either. VIR, Watkins Glen, Road America, Road Atlanta – wonderful tracks that would probably have been altered massively (and horribly) if they were outside the USA.

I’m not sure what you mean by this. Granted, some of the F1 tracks (though thankfully not Spa, Silverstone or Monza) have been stripped of their soul by a certain Mr Tilke and turned into hairpin- and chicane-fests. But most of the other tracks have been kept in pretty much their original layout for years. Just last weekend I was at Oulton Park, standing no more than 8 or 9 metres from the track, at the fastest part of the course, with no catch fencing. Check it out on Google Earth: http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&lr=lang_en&cd=1&geocode=FdRjKwMdgUnY_w&split=0&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&sspn=6.881357,14.941406&ll=53.173999,-2.619767&spn=0.000563,0.001717&t=h&z=20 (the red dot is a rubbish bin and indicates the closest you can get to the track). I’ve heard from many visitors to Watkins Glen that it’s a total fence-fest, impossible to get near to the track and, even if you can, you have to look through the mesh of a catch fence. Being a Brit I can vouch for Brands Hatch, Thruxton, Mallory Park, Lydden Hill, Castle Combe and Croft all being in almost exactly the same guises as 40 years ago, and spectators can still get pretty close to the action without their view being blocked by catch fencing. Don’t get me wrong though, all the tracks you listed are unquestionably brilliant, particularly Road Atlanta. It just seemed a shame to me to read said comments by Watkins Glen spectators, showing that the track is still just as great for drivers but the spectators have been neglected and pushed further and further away from the action.

ermax18:
Yeah come on. Where is Road Atlanta, MoSport and PBIR? PBIR has been on the list from the get go.

Road Atlanta will be the next road racing track. According to the staff it should be released within about a month.

What I don’t get is why everybody is always quick to bash on NASCAR. I never see any NASCAR fans taking the piss out of road racing, yet the NASCAR haters always feel the need to be negative.

scca1981:

That’s what people think. Then again people are idiots. The US has tons of road racing tracks and many racing organizations both amateur and professional that are quite popular.

And their race tracks are not as sanatised either. VIR, Watkins Glen, Road America, Road Atlanta – wonderful tracks that would probably have been altered massively (and horribly) if they were outside the USA.

drowsy:
Well, what can you do, Americans seem to love only turning in one direction. :)
I’ve grown to like actually racing on ovals through iRacing, but watching other people do it is about the most boring thing I can think of.

That’s what people think. Then again people are idiots. The US has tons of road racing tracks and many racing organizations both amateur and professional that are quite popular.

altrezia:I am sick of driving in circles.

As has been posted on the members forum, there is a reason. It’ll become known. :)

ermax18:Yeah come on. Where is Road Atlanta, MoSport and PBIR? PBIR has been on the list from the get go.

Nearing completion. It has only just started to thaw. It has only just stopped being torn apart and put back together.