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Nice.

I was right there on the simulator next to this one :)

The car is amazing.

What is that wheel mounted to? A g25?

Yes, it’s a G25.

The sim is great n all but the subscription fee is a bit extreme.

steve30x:
The sim is great n all but the subscription fee is a bit extreme.

Weird that no-one’s ever brought that up before.

LOL

I’m not a great business entrepreneur. But I think they need to restructure their profit model if they want this game to become a big success any time soon.
Basically their asking people to invest in it’s development by subscription; without any future proceeds for their investments. Maybe they should just put it on the market and sell shares. IF they haven’t already. “with free subscriptions for investors!”

Howie47:
Basically their asking people to invest in it’s development by subscription; without any future proceeds for their investments.

Some of the most popular games in the world have the same subscription model with very similar subscription costs. You don’t pay just for development, but the servers and organization of the various series. The problem in iRacing’s case is not the subscription, but the separate costs for content.

Thats not how I see my subscription, I’m not paying them to “invest” in their development. Im paying them for the best possible sim racing experience, and I dont have too many complaints so far ingame.
Having said that I can understand the fuss about the pricing. These days I only seem to be able to get in about 2 hours of iracing a week and Im definitely considering not renewing since I’ve got this nagging voice at the back of head telling me I aint getting my moneys worth. Also I seem to drift back to rfactor everytime a mod im interested comes out, and the recent improvements to NKPro has me hooked into that as well! So many choices, so little time

Yeah as good as it is, the way this business is structured with is not a business model you could sell to the Dragons Den, and for that reason, I’m out.

Running the Dallara at Infineon will be ff-ing awesome!!

They should let you pay once for the base product that comes with some cars and tracks. Then, if you want new content you have to buy expansions. Patches and updates to the base content should be released for free.

kill4f00d:
They should let you pay once for the base product that comes with some cars and tracks. Then, if you want new content you have to buy expansions. Patches and updates to the base content should be released for free.

Wow..you’re a freaking genius..they should do that.

Oh wait..they do.

+ monthly fees.

jux: Some of the most popular games in the world have the same subscription model with very similar subscription costs. You don’t pay just for development, but the servers and organization of the various series. The problem in iRacing’s case is not the subscription, but the separate costs for content.

Yes, I would agree technically with you. Although their subscription price is high compared to other organizers and providers of gaming servers. So I’ll restate that their pricing of content should include shares of the company at those prices. OK?

Dave:
Wow..you’re a freaking genius..they should do that.
Oh wait..they do.

So let us see; new track, 15-20 USD, new car, the same. At those prices, “Shift” would cost you 600 dollars. Plus a monthyly subscription to race on line. NO THANKS. Sim racers are very good at organizing their own racing.

Howie47:

So let us see; new track, 15-20 USD, new car, the same. At those prices, “Shift” would cost you 600 dollars. Plus a monthyly subscription to race on line. NO THANKS. Sim racers are very good at organizing their own racing.

Considering that Shift! is a new installment on an annual franchise that keeps charging us for facelifts and eyecandy, then iRacing is not that much expensive for me at least.

/Chris

Howie47:

So I’ll restate that their pricing of content should include shares of the company at those prices. OK?

As a joke it’s lame, as a serious suggestion it’s idiotic. Your continuous trolling about the pricing of the game is going nowhere.

NombreyApellido:

Considering that Shift! is a new installment on an annual franchise that keeps charging us for facelifts and eyecandy, then iRacing is not that much expensive for me at least.
/Chris

Thanks for telling what Shift isn’t, at least this year.

Anyway, people who keep on trolling in iRacing related newsposts are lame, but so is flaming every other race game and pretending that the pricing of iRacing is for a good cause, because it sometimes seems like iRacing is holy to some simracers.

If you want to pay, fine, that’s completely your choice, but if someone doesn’t want to pay, don’t let him feel like a complete idiot.

Dillyracer:

If you want to pay, fine, that’s completely your choice, but if someone doesn’t want to pay, don’t let him feel like a complete idiot.

Sorry, can’t really help you with that. No one can make you feel a complete idiot but yourself.

To me, Shift is another installment on an annual franchise. There’s nothing you or a PR can say to convince me otherwise. Take it like you prefer, trolling, flaming or whatever. It’s my opinion. That shouldn’t be hard to comprehend.

/Chris

NombreyApellido:

Sorry, can’t really help you with that. No one can make you feel a complete idiot but yourself.
To me, Shift is another installment on an annual franchise. There’s nothing you or a PR can say to convince me otherwise. Take it like you prefer, trolling, flaming or whatever. It’s my opinion. That shouldn’t be hard to comprehend.
/Chris

I wasn’t talking about you in the second part of my post, but some iRacing fans in general. I’ll rephrase it, some people act like the person is a complete idiot because he/she doesn’t want to pay monthly fee.

It is coming out one year after Undercover, but it’s made by another company and the engine has been in the works already for the Ferrari project. Holding my ful judgement for the demo though. I’m not expecting anything that can live up to the likes of iRacing physics wise, but it seems like good fun to me.

Anyway, this newspost wasn’t about Shift at all, so enough offtopic for me.

Dillyracer:

I wasn’t talking about you in the second part of my post, but some iRacing fans in general. I’ll rephrase it, some people act like the person is a complete idiot because he/she doesn’t want to pay monthly fee.
It is coming out one year after Undercover, but it’s made by another company and the engine has been in the works already for the Ferrari project. Holding my ful judgement for the demo though. I’m not expecting anything that can live up to the likes of iRacing physics wise, but it seems like good fun to me.
Anyway, this newspost wasn’t about Shift at all, so enough offtopic for me.

I don’t think you should look at Undercover…

Hint: Simbin/Blimey/SMS has been pushing out the same product for a few years now. They changed publisher and the title, that’s it. If you think the eyecandy is worth it, go for it. I certainly will. But I buy pretty much every game of the genre, that’s me.

iRacing members go into prick mode from time to time to discuss matters at the same, low level as uninformed, prejudiced or ill-intentioned haters.

In this case, when a stand alone game is compared with a service that includes, and charges for, what used to be in control of the user, the modders, the leagues and so on. That is perfectly fine with me. But to some, that is against God and all that its good and true. I can understand the actual reasons behind this too and find it amusing.

iRacing biggest contribution to the genre is the organized online racing: scheduled events, point system, security rating system, grid splitting system based on rankings, sanctioning protest system… I could go on and on. But what is always discussed is the price scheme, the whole “is too American” flavor, and the “it’s going to fail anytime now” prognosis.

Of course, everyone is entitled to an opinion. But very few people can make it valuable.

iRacing is what it is. Don’t fell obliged to like it. And certainly, not to pay for it.

/Chris

I ask the same question in every thread where iRacing skeptics post about the cost: How many of the skeptics have tried the game for a month? By “try,” I mean more than one night?

You might sing a different tune if you’ve truly tried iRacing.