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		<title>By: danilo</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/iracingcom-car-track-price-list/comment-page-2#comment-5992</link>
		<dc:creator>danilo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 08:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:shock:  i can download this game bat no!!  how my tracks download game... his 
that open this game is 340 MD for download  iii can sow match game no!! open open help 
this game track ) -- how Download help the download this program this game racing to enjoy
the game to full version to... bay now ) &lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;  :!:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <img src='http://www.virtualr.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':shock:' class='wp-smiley' />  i can download this game bat no!!  how my tracks download game&#8230; his<br />
that open this game is 340 MD for download  iii can sow match game no!! open open help<br />
this game track ) &#8212; how Download help the download this program this game racing to enjoy<br />
the game to full version to&#8230; bay now ) &lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;  :!:</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/iracingcom-car-track-price-list/comment-page-2#comment-5582</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 11:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was fortunate enough to get an early invite, and here is my take on it:

Graphics: 6/10 
Some of the new shadow effects are nice, but a lot of the textures looks dated, some even look like they were nicked directly from NR2003! The grass in particular. 

Physics: 9/10
Very good, but still not as groundbreaking as I expected it to be. I can tweak RACE 07 so it comes very close.

Sound: 7/10
Not much to say here. Dissapointed with most of it. The Silver Crown is the only one that really has some growl to it.

Gameplay: 6/10
ONLY online. They could have at least added a ghost car.

Value for money: 1/10
I can play other sims that give me similar experience, but at a fraction of the price. 

Too. Bloody. Expensive.

This is supposed to be Racing Simulator, not a hole in my bank-account simulator.

Final Verdict:
I&#039;m cancelling my subscription at the end of the month.
If I were a new potential customer, I would at least wait 6 months to a full year, to see where they are haeding with this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was fortunate enough to get an early invite, and here is my take on it:</p>
<p>Graphics: 6/10<br />
Some of the new shadow effects are nice, but a lot of the textures looks dated, some even look like they were nicked directly from NR2003! The grass in particular. </p>
<p>Physics: 9/10<br />
Very good, but still not as groundbreaking as I expected it to be. I can tweak RACE 07 so it comes very close.</p>
<p>Sound: 7/10<br />
Not much to say here. Dissapointed with most of it. The Silver Crown is the only one that really has some growl to it.</p>
<p>Gameplay: 6/10<br />
ONLY online. They could have at least added a ghost car.</p>
<p>Value for money: 1/10<br />
I can play other sims that give me similar experience, but at a fraction of the price. </p>
<p>Too. Bloody. Expensive.</p>
<p>This is supposed to be Racing Simulator, not a hole in my bank-account simulator.</p>
<p>Final Verdict:<br />
I&#8217;m cancelling my subscription at the end of the month.<br />
If I were a new potential customer, I would at least wait 6 months to a full year, to see where they are haeding with this.</p>
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		<title>By: R4z3rw33n</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/iracingcom-car-track-price-list/comment-page-2#comment-4922</link>
		<dc:creator>R4z3rw33n</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 03:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mike: He&#039;s a Nascar driver though.

Further to the point, iRacing is going to be severely constricted by licensing issues. Is the game able to be modified legally?
If not, the popular modding teams will continue to develop for Rfactor/GTR2/GTL etc, where their work is appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mike: He&#8217;s a Nascar driver though.</p>
<p>Further to the point, iRacing is going to be severely constricted by licensing issues. Is the game able to be modified legally?<br />
If not, the popular modding teams will continue to develop for Rfactor/GTR2/GTL etc, where their work is appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/iracingcom-car-track-price-list/comment-page-2#comment-4750</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 05:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*cough* dale jr...</description>
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		<title>By: StreetStock</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/iracingcom-car-track-price-list/comment-page-2#comment-4548</link>
		<dc:creator>StreetStock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thats exactly right! You don&#039;t have to pay, and I tell you what. Us beta testers just had to start paying, and I don&#039;t mind it one bit.

For the $13 a month I am paying,(if you include the $60 bonus credit, its really only $8/mth), it&#039;s well worth it.

By saying that iRacing might go under is ludicrous.
I don&#039;t see Billionaire John Henry, owner of the Boston Red Sox and half owner of Roush Racing going broke anytime soon.

And those that do know him, also know that he is doing this for fun and not money, because he loves auto racing, no matter if it&#039;s in the virtual world or the real one!

And if the world did stop spinning and iRacing&#039;s died, at the very least, I&#039;d have the memories and stories to tell about sim racing against some of the best real-life drivers in the world.

If you guys only knew who all races on iRacing.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats exactly right! You don&#8217;t have to pay, and I tell you what. Us beta testers just had to start paying, and I don&#8217;t mind it one bit.</p>
<p>For the $13 a month I am paying,(if you include the $60 bonus credit, its really only $8/mth), it&#8217;s well worth it.</p>
<p>By saying that iRacing might go under is ludicrous.<br />
I don&#8217;t see Billionaire John Henry, owner of the Boston Red Sox and half owner of Roush Racing going broke anytime soon.</p>
<p>And those that do know him, also know that he is doing this for fun and not money, because he loves auto racing, no matter if it&#8217;s in the virtual world or the real one!</p>
<p>And if the world did stop spinning and iRacing&#8217;s died, at the very least, I&#8217;d have the memories and stories to tell about sim racing against some of the best real-life drivers in the world.</p>
<p>If you guys only knew who all races on iRacing&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/iracingcom-car-track-price-list/comment-page-2#comment-4546</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL

Wow, ive never seen such a backlash. Who cares if you will not pay for the service????? You dont HAVE to!

But, the way most semi-intelligent people would think about this is, hmmm, maybe i will try it, and if i dont like it, then i dont have to pay anymore!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is shaping up to be a whole new world for sim racers, give it a chance!  Or dont, i dont really care!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL</p>
<p>Wow, ive never seen such a backlash. Who cares if you will not pay for the service????? You dont HAVE to!</p>
<p>But, the way most semi-intelligent people would think about this is, hmmm, maybe i will try it, and if i dont like it, then i dont have to pay anymore!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>This is shaping up to be a whole new world for sim racers, give it a chance!  Or dont, i dont really care!!!</p>
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		<title>By: F1Racer</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/iracingcom-car-track-price-list/comment-page-2#comment-4268</link>
		<dc:creator>F1Racer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its like throwing money away really.  For what they charge you don&#039;t get that much more over what you can experience now with bought sims like rF and GTR2 etc.

Subscriptions AND paying for cars and tracks ?   I think thats taking the p...
The idea is great, the concept is promising and they they go and ruin it with a pricing scheme that is clearly either aimed at the more financially fortunate or they want to weed out the &#039;rabble&#039; that get online and do it just to spoil races or dont take it seriously enough.

After watching SRT&#039;s video I was interested.  It sounded cool.  Then... I saw the prices and like someone says, what if they go out of business ? (Hardly likely unless they spend all our money on Ferrari&#039;s and Lamborghini&#039;s.)
But if they go down, what do you have to show for all you shelled out ?  Zilch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its like throwing money away really.  For what they charge you don&#8217;t get that much more over what you can experience now with bought sims like rF and GTR2 etc.</p>
<p>Subscriptions AND paying for cars and tracks ?   I think thats taking the p&#8230;<br />
The idea is great, the concept is promising and they they go and ruin it with a pricing scheme that is clearly either aimed at the more financially fortunate or they want to weed out the &#8216;rabble&#8217; that get online and do it just to spoil races or dont take it seriously enough.</p>
<p>After watching SRT&#8217;s video I was interested.  It sounded cool.  Then&#8230; I saw the prices and like someone says, what if they go out of business ? (Hardly likely unless they spend all our money on Ferrari&#8217;s and Lamborghini&#8217;s.)<br />
But if they go down, what do you have to show for all you shelled out ?  Zilch.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Fothergill</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/iracingcom-car-track-price-list/comment-page-2#comment-4267</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Fothergill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can buy their tracks and cars from them and you can use them for life - that is if you pay your subscription for life.

No subscription, no can use, no matter what you have previously paid!

This is just one of several reasons why I hope this &quot;sim&quot; fails.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can buy their tracks and cars from them and you can use them for life &#8211; that is if you pay your subscription for life.</p>
<p>No subscription, no can use, no matter what you have previously paid!</p>
<p>This is just one of several reasons why I hope this &#8220;sim&#8221; fails.</p>
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		<title>By: 55</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/iracingcom-car-track-price-list/comment-page-2#comment-4250</link>
		<dc:creator>55</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something I have not read here yet. iRacing states that once you purchase a car or track it is yours for good.  What if their business fails? Also, 4 or 5 years down the road, the graphics engine that powers their sim now will be outdated. That means (if they are still in business)that they will have to program a new sim to keep up with technology. What becomes of your NOW outdated cars and tracks? Will they issue uses free upgrades? Or, will users have to dig in their pockets again! Everyone knows from experience that software even 3-4 years old or more just does not match up with current software! Before signing up I sure would want to know what their policy will be. Computers and technology advance so fast it is tough trying to stay caught up! If they plan on being in business for years, they must address this issue.  :!:  :?:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something I have not read here yet. iRacing states that once you purchase a car or track it is yours for good.  What if their business fails? Also, 4 or 5 years down the road, the graphics engine that powers their sim now will be outdated. That means (if they are still in business)that they will have to program a new sim to keep up with technology. What becomes of your NOW outdated cars and tracks? Will they issue uses free upgrades? Or, will users have to dig in their pockets again! Everyone knows from experience that software even 3-4 years old or more just does not match up with current software! Before signing up I sure would want to know what their policy will be. Computers and technology advance so fast it is tough trying to stay caught up! If they plan on being in business for years, they must address this issue.  :!:  :?:</p>
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		<title>By: R4z3rw33n</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/iracingcom-car-track-price-list/comment-page-2#comment-4247</link>
		<dc:creator>R4z3rw33n</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personally, will not be shelling out monthly fees for this sim, when I am currently extremely happy with Rfactor.
Why start paying a monthly fee when I already have great leagues to race in, an endless supply of fantastic mods (With many more on the horizon), and a developer who only charges a one off fee to purchase the baseline software?

While Rfactor/LFS/GTL/GPL/GTR2/RBR are starting to age graphically, it isn&#039;t as if they are in dire need of replacing. While a new, polished sim would be fantastic, I cannot see Iracing being that sim. How are they possibly going to compete against open platforms (e.g. Rfactor/LFS) that offer top quality cars/tracks (Which are often aided in development by professional teams), and the most important aspect yet, they are free.

Sim-racing is about the driving and community feel, and a community that has to pay copious amounts of funding to have a trackday together doesn&#039;t seem to fit in with the idealogies that we all know so well in our current niches.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally, will not be shelling out monthly fees for this sim, when I am currently extremely happy with Rfactor.<br />
Why start paying a monthly fee when I already have great leagues to race in, an endless supply of fantastic mods (With many more on the horizon), and a developer who only charges a one off fee to purchase the baseline software?</p>
<p>While Rfactor/LFS/GTL/GPL/GTR2/RBR are starting to age graphically, it isn&#8217;t as if they are in dire need of replacing. While a new, polished sim would be fantastic, I cannot see Iracing being that sim. How are they possibly going to compete against open platforms (e.g. Rfactor/LFS) that offer top quality cars/tracks (Which are often aided in development by professional teams), and the most important aspect yet, they are free.</p>
<p>Sim-racing is about the driving and community feel, and a community that has to pay copious amounts of funding to have a trackday together doesn&#8217;t seem to fit in with the idealogies that we all know so well in our current niches.</p>
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		<title>By: StreetStock</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/iracingcom-car-track-price-list/comment-page-2#comment-4221</link>
		<dc:creator>StreetStock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 23:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t let the pricing of iRacing scare you. You DO NOT have to pay for all the tracks and cars upfront. But you can if you would like....

 WHY? Well if you can remember how Gran Turismo was on the PSX. You could NOT race the faster cars or the faster tracks until you passed some timetrials and won some races, which therefore &quot;unlocked&quot; them, and which also earned you a higher ranked &quot;drivers&quot; license. Allowing you to compete with the faster series.

 iRacing is very similiar to the old GT, you start out on the bottom and race your way up. Most of iR&#039;s racing season championships lasts around 12 weeks long, with a different race each week, which does require you to run a set minimum number of races during the whole 12 weeks season. More races and TT&#039;s are required, the higher your license class becomes.

 So to make a long story short, the most you would have to buy is a new car every 12 weeks, that&#039;s if you earned a  higher license, allowing you to compete with them. And maybe 1 or 2 tracks for each new series you run.

 So if you pay for a one year sub, you only pay $13/mth. Plus you get $60 in iRacing money as a bonus, which can be used to buy the new car/series required to compete in the next higher &quot;racing level&quot; or 2 and/or 1 or 2 faster tracks (which most have atleast 2 different configurations) every 12 weeks.

 So the most I see myself spending would be the extra 7 dollars a month I saved and thus owning the new cars/tracks and all the new updates as they come about, with my skill level as the only thing stopping me from reaching the top!

Check out this link for iRacing&#039;s FAQ that grows everyday.
http://www.answers-script.com/iracing/index.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t let the pricing of iRacing scare you. You DO NOT have to pay for all the tracks and cars upfront. But you can if you would like&#8230;.</p>
<p> WHY? Well if you can remember how Gran Turismo was on the PSX. You could NOT race the faster cars or the faster tracks until you passed some timetrials and won some races, which therefore &#8220;unlocked&#8221; them, and which also earned you a higher ranked &#8220;drivers&#8221; license. Allowing you to compete with the faster series.</p>
<p> iRacing is very similiar to the old GT, you start out on the bottom and race your way up. Most of iR&#8217;s racing season championships lasts around 12 weeks long, with a different race each week, which does require you to run a set minimum number of races during the whole 12 weeks season. More races and TT&#8217;s are required, the higher your license class becomes.</p>
<p> So to make a long story short, the most you would have to buy is a new car every 12 weeks, that&#8217;s if you earned a  higher license, allowing you to compete with them. And maybe 1 or 2 tracks for each new series you run.</p>
<p> So if you pay for a one year sub, you only pay $13/mth. Plus you get $60 in iRacing money as a bonus, which can be used to buy the new car/series required to compete in the next higher &#8220;racing level&#8221; or 2 and/or 1 or 2 faster tracks (which most have atleast 2 different configurations) every 12 weeks.</p>
<p> So the most I see myself spending would be the extra 7 dollars a month I saved and thus owning the new cars/tracks and all the new updates as they come about, with my skill level as the only thing stopping me from reaching the top!</p>
<p>Check out this link for iRacing&#8217;s FAQ that grows everyday.<br />
<a href="http://www.answers-script.com/iracing/index.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.answers-script.com/iracing/index.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: Crazy Bored</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/iracingcom-car-track-price-list/comment-page-2#comment-4216</link>
		<dc:creator>Crazy Bored</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 22:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am worried about the people that do pay all that having very few to race against, especially at the start. It could work out fine I have no idea but it sure would suck if that&#039;s what it turned into.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am worried about the people that do pay all that having very few to race against, especially at the start. It could work out fine I have no idea but it sure would suck if that&#8217;s what it turned into.</p>
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		<title>By: ermax18</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/iracingcom-car-track-price-list/comment-page-1#comment-4214</link>
		<dc:creator>ermax18</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 21:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sure the laws of supply and demand will drive down the price. I am not going to sweat it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sure the laws of supply and demand will drive down the price. I am not going to sweat it.</p>
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		<title>By: N0body Of The Goat</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/iracingcom-car-track-price-list/comment-page-1#comment-4210</link>
		<dc:creator>N0body Of The Goat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 19:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very ambitious project in my opinion. The current pricing system really is trying so see who is desperate for the new &quot;best thing since sliced bread&quot; sim at any cost.

You have access to your purchased cars and tracks, as long as you are paid up with your subscription fees...

To play a demo, traditionally a free thing to whet your appetite, you have to pay... More than a standard monthly fee!

Upto £25 (£13) for a single circuit with variations...

Who knows, maybe they will have enough takers at these steep prices to sustain the project and give them wages. Maybe they will all retire as multi-millionaires within a couple of years.

However, my hunch is that the current pricing scheme needs to at least half, in order for this project to thrive. Why limit your product to say 200 users at $200+, when you could have many more at a lower price, for not much more outgoings or effort?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very ambitious project in my opinion. The current pricing system really is trying so see who is desperate for the new &#8220;best thing since sliced bread&#8221; sim at any cost.</p>
<p>You have access to your purchased cars and tracks, as long as you are paid up with your subscription fees&#8230;</p>
<p>To play a demo, traditionally a free thing to whet your appetite, you have to pay&#8230; More than a standard monthly fee!</p>
<p>Upto £25 (£13) for a single circuit with variations&#8230;</p>
<p>Who knows, maybe they will have enough takers at these steep prices to sustain the project and give them wages. Maybe they will all retire as multi-millionaires within a couple of years.</p>
<p>However, my hunch is that the current pricing scheme needs to at least half, in order for this project to thrive. Why limit your product to say 200 users at $200+, when you could have many more at a lower price, for not much more outgoings or effort?</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 19:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder how many subscribers iRacing is expecting or needs to attract to break even. I ask because I race rFactor at various times of the day and night, and I seldomly see more than 100 people around the world listed as competing on rFactor public or private servers at any given time.

iRacing seems to be attractive to an even smaller niche. Granted, since iRacing events are standardized and take place at set times with set classes, all subscribers will gather at once.

But how many subscribers do you think this game will attract out of the box? We&#039;re all into PC sim racing, but this is very much a niche hobby as it is. And iRacing is &quot;niching&quot; it even further.

I&#039;d be surprised if iRacing got 5,000 subscribers out of the box. Please correct me if I&#039;m wrong and preorders have exceeded that total!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how many subscribers iRacing is expecting or needs to attract to break even. I ask because I race rFactor at various times of the day and night, and I seldomly see more than 100 people around the world listed as competing on rFactor public or private servers at any given time.</p>
<p>iRacing seems to be attractive to an even smaller niche. Granted, since iRacing events are standardized and take place at set times with set classes, all subscribers will gather at once.</p>
<p>But how many subscribers do you think this game will attract out of the box? We&#8217;re all into PC sim racing, but this is very much a niche hobby as it is. And iRacing is &#8220;niching&#8221; it even further.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be surprised if iRacing got 5,000 subscribers out of the box. Please correct me if I&#8217;m wrong and preorders have exceeded that total!</p>
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		<title>By: stabiz</title>
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		<dc:creator>stabiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 18:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are to busy racing around in your cars, moatlspeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are to busy racing around in your cars, moatlspeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Roadblock</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/iracingcom-car-track-price-list/comment-page-1#comment-4206</link>
		<dc:creator>Roadblock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 18:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With the economy in the crapper right now I just don&#039;t see iRacing&#039;s economic structure working out for them.  :wink:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the economy in the crapper right now I just don&#8217;t see iRacing&#8217;s economic structure working out for them.  <img src='http://www.virtualr.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=':wink:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: moatlspeed</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/iracingcom-car-track-price-list/comment-page-1#comment-4204</link>
		<dc:creator>moatlspeed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 18:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL - when it comes to paying the people learn to speak  :smile: 
I got a site full of free content (55.495 downloads) and the feedback is almost zero - i must be doing something wrong  :roll:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL &#8211; when it comes to paying the people learn to speak  :smile:<br />
I got a site full of free content (55.495 downloads) and the feedback is almost zero &#8211; i must be doing something wrong  <img src='http://www.virtualr.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Paul Kelly</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/iracingcom-car-track-price-list/comment-page-1#comment-4203</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 18:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paying job, Fester? I&#039;m a 43-year-old white-collar professional. 

There&#039;s nothing gradual or evolutionary about this pricing model. Online sim racing&#039;s only expense has consisted of the initial purchase price. The only other expense has been the purchase of dedicated servers, which aren&#039;t necessary.

Meanwhile, iRacing strolls in and initiates a subscription-based model that also charges for cars and tracks, resulting in a possible expense of hundreds of dollars per year.

That wouldn&#039;t be a problem if a more gradual precedent had been set. But sim racing is essentially going from free to expensive, with little justification for that expense from iRacing other than prettier graphics, organized leagues and stat tracking. I&#039;ve read nothing that indicates the physics are a quantum leap over other Kaemmer sims, especially if your computer or peripheral hardware aren&#039;t cutting edge.

I see rFactor and other &quot;free&quot; sims as the equivalent of playing a round of golf at a world-class public course. Sure, some guys will get their rocks off by paying twice the greens fees to play a world-class private course, much like they will to play iRacing and achieve some sort of BS &quot;hardcore sim racer&quot; cred, but is it really worth it?

I have serious doubts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paying job, Fester? I&#8217;m a 43-year-old white-collar professional. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s nothing gradual or evolutionary about this pricing model. Online sim racing&#8217;s only expense has consisted of the initial purchase price. The only other expense has been the purchase of dedicated servers, which aren&#8217;t necessary.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, iRacing strolls in and initiates a subscription-based model that also charges for cars and tracks, resulting in a possible expense of hundreds of dollars per year.</p>
<p>That wouldn&#8217;t be a problem if a more gradual precedent had been set. But sim racing is essentially going from free to expensive, with little justification for that expense from iRacing other than prettier graphics, organized leagues and stat tracking. I&#8217;ve read nothing that indicates the physics are a quantum leap over other Kaemmer sims, especially if your computer or peripheral hardware aren&#8217;t cutting edge.</p>
<p>I see rFactor and other &#8220;free&#8221; sims as the equivalent of playing a round of golf at a world-class public course. Sure, some guys will get their rocks off by paying twice the greens fees to play a world-class private course, much like they will to play iRacing and achieve some sort of BS &#8220;hardcore sim racer&#8221; cred, but is it really worth it?</p>
<p>I have serious doubts.</p>
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		<title>By: Fester Fudgebone</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/iracingcom-car-track-price-list/comment-page-1#comment-4202</link>
		<dc:creator>Fester Fudgebone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 18:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come back when you are out of school and have a paying job, kids. I am sure iRacing won&#039;t miss whiners and high school freshmen. :razz: 

Quite honestly I won&#039;t miss any of the complainers and cheapskates, neither will iRacing. 

The good stuff in life comes at a cost, so you deserve everything you are not paying for. :lol: 

Freeloaders never amount to much anyway   :twisted:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come back when you are out of school and have a paying job, kids. I am sure iRacing won&#8217;t miss whiners and high school freshmen. :razz: </p>
<p>Quite honestly I won&#8217;t miss any of the complainers and cheapskates, neither will iRacing. </p>
<p>The good stuff in life comes at a cost, so you deserve everything you are not paying for. <img src='http://www.virtualr.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Freeloaders never amount to much anyway   :twisted:</p>
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