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It would be sweet to have the M3 in iRacing as well :D. hopefully we get a new tintop roadcar too.

All these announcements and no cake. I’m starting to lose my respect for iRacing, for taking all that money from their customers I would expect updates by the dozen. You can’t live on pretentious intentions forever, maybe they should hire some more staff.

With all the money spent on other things like this, I certainly think that they should hire many more people. Especially ones that can start updating the physics. I was much more hopeful a year ago when it was new and lots of updates seemed not too far away.

carbonfibre:
All these announcements and no cake. I’m starting to lose my respect for iRacing, for taking all that money from their customers I would expect updates by the dozen. You can’t live on pretentious intentions forever, maybe they should hire some more staff.

No cake? They already released about 5 tracks for this season and have 2 more before the seasons done. And added 2 new cars, making a total of 4 this year. And the Pro Series starts in August. And discounts for content owners. And substantial updates to the website and database. No cake? I’ve been eating lots of cake! And with the Lotus due next season, and the Corvette about a month or two afterwards I’ll be eating lots lots more! yum yum!

Physics have been updated in every build, every three months. Most of the cars are much better now than they were when they were first released.

carbonfibre:
All these announcements and no cake. I’m starting to lose my respect for iRacing, for taking all that money from their customers I would expect updates by the dozen. You can’t live on pretentious intentions forever, maybe they should hire some more staff.

LOL. You seem to forget that there is already quite a decent sim available mate… ;-)

Hmmm … I`m a bit divided over this. On one hand its sweet that one of the best racing series in the world finally go simming, but on the other hand it should be lots of cars, mixed classes, not a dozen Spyders hotlaping Road America.

What is the maximum numbers of drivers in a iRacing race?

stabiz:
What is the maximum numbers of drivers in a iRacing race?

64.

As long as these arent deals that give these series exclusively to iRacing because that would be silly. I dont want to see iRacing take over the sim racing world completely.

“If this partnership turns out to be true, iRacers may be getting their hands on a Le Mans Prototype in the future”

iRacing + LMP = LOVE and Peace on Earth

trebor901:
As long as these arent deals that give these series exclusively to iRacing because that would be silly. I dont want to see iRacing take over the sim racing world completely.

They don’t have any exclusive licenses. From their FAQ: “That said, all of our licenses are non-exclusive, leaving our partners free to do business with anyone they choose.”

One example is the NASCAR affiliation. Grant Turismo 5 will feature NASCAR content even though iRacing will have NASCAR sanctioned series next year.

trebor901:
As long as these arent deals that give these series exclusively to iRacing because that would be silly. I dont want to see iRacing take over the sim racing world completely.

No else is releasing an officially licenced ALMS sim… And having iRacing do NASCAR would be infintely better than EA.

trebor901:
As long as these arent deals that give these series exclusively to iRacing because that would be silly. I dont want to see iRacing take over the sim racing world completely.

Yet again trebor901 made a valid point

iRacing never signs exclusive deals. :)

the.cosmic.pope: No cake? They already released about 5 tracks for this season and have 2 more before the seasons done. And added 2 new cars, making a total of 4 this year. And the Pro Series starts in August. And discounts for content owners. And substantial updates to the website and database. No cake? I’ve been eating lots of cake! And with the Lotus due next season, and the Corvette about a month or two afterwards I’ll be eating lots lots more! yum yum!

Hmmm, with what. 40+ different cars in ALMS. iRacing gives you 4 new cars a year. Which covers (all) the different types of racing. In 20 or 30 years you’ll have a whole cake and not just the crumbs. Announcements like “official racing Sim” of our series, is nothing but hype.

Howie47:

Hmmm, with what. 40+ different cars in ALMS. iRacing gives you 4 new cars a year. Which covers (all) the different types of racing. In 20 or 30 years you’ll have a whole cake and not just the crumbs. Announcements like “official racing Sim” of our series, is nothing but hype.

Man, some of you guys should open a Marketing 101 textbook. Do you really think that iRacing would unleash 40 ALMS cars at the same time it announced its alliance with ALMS? Is that even realistic for a sim that’s only been on the market for a year?

Of course, some “physics genius” armed with Notepad could do that with rFactor, but it’s highly unlikely it would be accurate or based on real data.

The biggest benefit of this deal for iRacing short-term is that it provides the sim EXPOSURE. Exposure to more race fans at events, exposure on the ALMS Web site, and most importantly, exposure to technical data from teams, chassis builders, engine builders and tire manufacturers from which it can build accurate ALMS cars.

All of that hopefully will bear fruit in the near and distant future.

People have moaned there aren’t tin-tops and proper sports cars and class racing in iRacing. So when iRacing forges an alliance with ALMS, which answers all of those pleas, people still bitch.

Unreal.

Amen!

Paul Kelly: people still bitch.

Who’s bitching? Not me. I’m just pointing out the reality behind the hype. I could care less about iRacing. Way out of my price bracket. I’m just in Sim racing for a little fun. I don’t take myself that seriously about any thing. Even less so, for playing games on the computer. Unless some one who has never driven a particular race car. Can go directly from iRacing to the real thing and win a real race. I’m not sold that it isn’t any thing but a game.

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE!!!! Tim, I know you read these comments!!! If there’s even a SHRED of a chance for iRacing to partner with ALMS PLEASE make it happen!!! I see so much opportunity there – more then with IRL. Both would be nice – but to make a choice I’d take ALMS all the way!!!

Howie47:

Who’s bitching? Not me. I’m just pointing out the reality behind the hype. I could care less about iRacing. Way out of my price bracket. I’m just in Sim racing for a little fun. I don’t take myself that seriously about any thing. Even less so, for playing games on the computer. Unless some one who has never driven a particular race car. Can go directly from iRacing to the real thing and win a real race. I’m not sold that it isn’t any thing but a game.

The reality behind the hype? The reality that you described must come from a different universe.

Please show me, with a link, where iRacing has said it will re-create 40 cars from the ALMS as a result of this partnership. You’re pulling rubbish from your rectum.

Plus, if you don’t care about iRacing, why are you wasting your and our time commenting on it? Have you even played it?

And if anyone thinks they can go from winning a Rookie Solstice race at Lime Rock right to a real race car and win a race, I’d like them to pass the Michael Phelps pipe this way, please. :)

Howie47:

Hmmm, with what. 40+ different cars in ALMS. iRacing gives you 4 new cars a year. Which covers (all) the different types of racing. In 20 or 30 years you’ll have a whole cake and not just the crumbs. Announcements like “official racing Sim” of our series, is nothing but hype.

ALMS doesn’t even have 40 cars on the grid, nevermind 40 different ones. Need to learn more about the subject at hand before commenting.

Howie47: Who’s bitching? Not me. I’m just pointing out the reality behind the hype.

What hype exactly? iRacing have said nothing about an ALMS series or partnership.

“No official word from iRacing has been given on this yet … ”

Any remarks about such a partnership at the moment are pure speculation, not hype. While you may have something against iRacing, it’s odd to bash them because journalists and fans are speculating.

Until iRacing gives you more value for the dollar, it’ll never truely take off.

Well thank you all for admitting, iRacing is not simulating ALMS! So we can lay to rest any insinuating that that is what is transpiring with the rumored
“company seems to have sealed another important deal in American motorsports as the American Le Mans Series”. If I’d known what immature fanboys were reading this, I wouldn’t have bothered to shine the light of reality on their fantasies.

Glad to see I successfully got the ball rolling on this, conversation only makes this place better.

I realise I’m putting all my eggs in one basket, but a good sim only lasts a long as the next and rFactor 2 will prevail. What’s the point when we had the whole world of racing, only to be cut right back to a few restricted under powered vehicles on a handful of tracks. Thats not progress, thats actually going backwards.

I never said iRacing wasn’t releasing content, but what you’ve got to realise is that these updates are all negligible in the wake of past mods supporting a entire series of multi-class racing, all over the planet. That’s a far cry from iRacing’s multiple (charged) release of the small American oval… but it’s laser scanned! (Their USP) I wonder why they can release so many of those in quick succession.

Hat’s off for iRacings perks above other racing sims, but it’s not worth breeding a whole other fractional “Apple fanclub” of religious followers over. Though somehow I’ve been on the internet enough to realise that might be just another one of the unspoken rules.

Carbonfibre, Howie:

One simple question, sincerely asked, seeking an honest answer: How long have each of you tried iRacing, and what cars and tracks did you drive?

Just curious. Thanks.

Paul Kelly:

Of course, some “physics genius” armed with Notepad could do that with rFactor, but it’s highly unlikely it would be accurate or based on real data.

iRacing is programmed in C, Like any other program, is not reality and is not a professional simulator.
I am ashamed to read messages like this where you think they’re driving McLaren simulator, iRacing is a GAME like rFactor, LFS, netKar, GPL, etc.

GeraArg:

iRacing is programmed in C, Like any other program, is not reality and is not a professional simulator.
I am ashamed to read messages like this where you think they’re driving McLaren simulator, iRacing is a GAME like rFactor, LFS, netKar, GPL, etc.

Find a quote in this thread where I said iRacing is as sophisticated as the McLaren simulator. It’s not. Not even close. It’s a game, but it’s the most sophisticated, realistic racing game (emphasis on game) available on the mass market today.

Drive it. You’ll see.

I tried iRacing for a month if you want to know and have no budget to spend any longer. I am deeply against subscription gaming, but luckily I was drunk at the time and also realised my brand new G25 back then was only going to be a good as the software it was plugged into and it needed a test with the best.

At that time I was thrilled to bits with the FFB and the physics but I came to a realisation that iRacing isn’t actually that special. It was just the ease of driving underpowered vehicles setup in a balanced way that was favourable for oversteer. I was also uneducated as to how good rFactor could be with a little research into the way the various configs/setups worked.

My only intent is to replicate the great bumps I felt in iRacing FFB, apart from that the FFB was the only game changer iRacing offered to me and for everything else, I can replicate was I used in iRacing, in rFactor e.g. Limerock.

I can badger on now about why I prefer rFactor still, but the basic argument is, rFactor has a lot more pros over iRacing (for my purposes) if you put it down on paper (which works for me) and I don’t have to feed it cash. I’m also a bit of a collector and watching mod progress is fun for me, I keep what I like, throw out what I don’t. It’s an ever evolving experience… shit, I can’t stop.

Howie47:
Well thank you all for admitting, iRacing is not simulating ALMS! So we can lay to rest any insinuating that that is what is transpiring with the rumored
“company seems to have sealed another important deal in American motorsports as the American Le Mans Series”.

No one was saying that they would “simulate ALMS”. That was never the point. The article says that they will most likely have a partnership, but that’s it. If you were dreaming about a second-rate ALMS “simulation” à la rFactor mods, that was only in your own head. Heck, they don’t even have more than one of the makes running in NASCAR, and have no plans to include more.

iRacing will have a GT1 and a GT2 car soon, and an LMP announcement probably isn’t far off.

Wow! Many good points and some askew and off the mark a bit. Yet they are all valid. What!? How!? Because all of our brain’s perceptions vary a bit, some more and some less. We exist as varied individuals and have different experiences and in our community these experiences exist and thus are true and valid.

Take iRacing for example, of which I own content and have an active account. I don’t race as often as I could or should because of the investment required to reap the many rewards available, ie. upper licenses, different series qualified to run, etc. Yet I am happy with it none the less because of what it does offer and represent. That being the passion of a leader and a team of motorsports and simracing enthusiasts. It’s like saying Italian food, or French or BBQ or seafood or steak is superior and the true way to eat. Tastes vary from one individual to another and hec, even within each individual tastes can vary depending on the desire or the mood. However, like other sims such sd nKPro (which I have but mostly hotlap and ‘once in a blue moon’ online race), Live For Speed (I don’t own), GTR2, rFactor (I love because of vast mods and AI (of course not perfect or even close at times), that exist, I am supportive of them whether I am participating or on the sidelines not even associated with them… I am happy and thrilled about the variety because each one pushes the other and possibly meets another ‘brother’ or ‘sister’s’ needs and this in turn grows our community of simracing. Each does have validity, independant of whether I (or we) can afford this one or not that one. They all meet a variety of different racers’ needs and wants.

So which one program/mod/series do I want to succeed or come out on top as the most deserving one? All of them. Because, even if one comes closer to reality and is the so called ‘gold standard’ by the majority, it really doesn’t make it any more worthy of existence any more than it makes any one of us more worthy than the other to exist as an individual. Provided no deceit or crime against humanity has been done.

You my brothers and sisters of our community make me happy and proud with your participation, opinions, and support of simracing and at times… life.

Fair enough. Thanks for the detailed response.

carbonfibre:
I tried iRacing for a month if you want to know and have no budget to spend any longer. I am deeply against subscription gaming, but luckily I was drunk at the time and also realised my brand new G25 back then was only going to be a good as the software it was plugged into and it needed a test with the best.
At that time I was thrilled to bits with the FFB and the physics but I came to a realisation that iRacing isn’t actually that special. It was just the ease of driving underpowered vehicles setup in a balanced way that was favourable for oversteer. I was also uneducated as to how good rFactor could be with a little research into the way the various configs/setups worked.
My only intent is to replicate the great bumps I felt in iRacing FFB, apart from that the FFB was the only game changer iRacing offered to me and for everything else, I can replicate was I used in iRacing, in rFactor e.g. Limerock.
I can badger on now about why I prefer rFactor still, but the basic argument is, rFactor has a lot more pros over iRacing (for my purposes) if you put it down on paper (which works for me) and I don’t have to feed it cash. I’m also a bit of a collector and watching mod progress is fun for me, I keep what I like, throw out what I don’t. It’s an ever evolving experience… shit, I can’t stop.