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Looks good, especially the suspension working in the end. Maybe I’ll try iRacing just to try this car :)

Do you reckon that F1 engine sound was in-engine or was it a mockup for the video?

So, we have determined that $20 for One car and one track with no racing is perfectly fine.

So I’d assume that 6 Tracks, 4 Cars and actual racing would be worth $30, right? Afterall, you can get that at iRacing.

Oh wait, it’s not a Ferrari. lmao

mockup for the video

Cant wait! 

Looks fantastic

while im not purchasing either, theres a big difference between a one-off payment and a subscription service

Amazing stuff. Too sad, the video is speedened up and slowed down almost every second so you can’t see the real speed of the car… but the way it moves and shakes/or doesn’t because it’s a super stiff F1/ looks mindblowing realistic. Too sad I can’t afford paying monthly for iRacing, I guess it would be great fun and I wouldn’t be too bad there as well :D.

damn! this will be good!

I understand its not affordable for everyone, but i can assure you iRacing is worth every cent they charge.

ugly

Very nice.

Also agree, iRacing is jolly expensive but so worth it if you can pay it.

1:02-1:04: Thats why iRacing is 1000x better then what F1 2010 from Codemasters will be.

There is no reckoning, staff member said it was a mockup for the video.

You’re kinda comparing a hire car to a car that you actually own.   Plus iRacing wont be able to do full proper F1 grids or provide dynamice weather.  If you want the complete simulation experience, maybe physics isn’t the be all and end all.

Unbelievable!
IRacing..the Biggest MonsterCommercial Simracing Genre in the first 21thCentury Dekade, release a 10th classifyed, unprofessional, poor, Amateur Vid to promote there Industrial F1 3D Car, in a 1,17min “Teaser” !

Guys..im in Simracing since 2000/2001, you 80% from You all too..but this Video, from Rent a Simgame Company, iRACING, is just a Joke, a Shame and just “This is Ridiculous” O:-)

Hunderts, sorry Thousands Private Vids from the Isi Communitie producing mucg Better, much impressive and much prfessional Teaser then this .

Attention! This goes not to the Mate who create this Vid..this Goes to IRacing..the sneakiest Simrace Genre of the World!

Cheers Holger

Yes, an one time fee of €15,00 for 1 laser scanned car + 1 laser scanend track coming from Ferrari themselves & Stefano Casillo without any other obligation whatsoever is much more than fine (+ online progress monitor + weekly rewards). Oh, I’m a McLaren fan…

Why are previews so important? You will play the final product, not the game. As I already once said, some (mostly independent modding) teams spend more time by producing previews than working on the game itself. I like this Williams teaser.

People will play the ferrari sim with no weather or racing for 20 but not spend 5 bucks for three months of iracing just to try it. And the F1 car will be a whole 11 bucks.

Not to mention the Ferrari Product will only include 1 track.

But hey, not like Ferrari has ever put their name on rather crappy video games. That’s never happened, so their product will of course be to the standards of their road cars.

lmao

How is this “unprofessional, poor, Amateur Vid”. That is standard editing you see in many commercial products.

Hell, far more professional than a Shamwow informercial. lol

So, if Grid had Weather and fancy effects associated with it, it’d be an awesome simulation experience?

Hell, wasnt even a good gaming experience.

Don’t worry, I’m sure they will do a promo that is 3 months + Spa + FW 31 for cheaper.Bet half you lot end up at iRacing because of it seeing how giddy you guys are for F10 + Fiorano – Racing – Weather. FW31 + Spa + Racing – Weather sure sounds a lot better, no?

Your only going to get a couple of weeks out of the Ferrari product anyways. Do you really think your set forever lapping on up to 3 circuits by yourself?

“I” never play and by the “FerrariSim” !
I wait till all the Stuff is Converted to rFactor2,3, 4, 5….in the Meanwhile i masturbate with Codemaster F1 2010, on PS3 with GT5/ GT6 and rF2 with HeartBlood PremiumMod like HistoriX2.0, WSGT2.0,DRM2.0, etc…

BTW: Im a proud Owner of Original Contents..of GTR1, GTR2, RACE07, RACE(A Joke), GTREvo, GTLegends, rFactor, NFS Shift, NFS Porsche Unleashed..but i will never be a Proud, blind and stupid Mainstream “SimRacingTramper” of iRacings Renta Game Philosophie, or other MonsterMarketing “Robbery_Games”

“In THIS Sense”
Holger

@Empty Are you really that ignorant?
I usually dont waste my energy replying on here because its just too damn pointless,but the last few days you have caught my attention.
What you’re saying is Ferrari is hyping their product…as if Iracing isn’t doing that.
Every major company hypes up their product, one is better at it then the other, I’ve played Iracing for a few months and its truely a great sim,great feeling and great online racing.
But here you are degrading something that hasnt been released yet,noone here had a go at it yet, but enough people have experienced netkar pro and agree it is a great sim also, but still you know it will be crap, because it has 1 car and 1 track….get a life

I agree fully.  Its not for everyone.  If its not for you fine.  There’s no reason for people to come here and constantly complain about its price.

As for the car it looks awesome.  I’m not a big F1 fan but this may be a future addition i’ll pick up.

Nope.  You’ve missed the point completely.  Sorry but I don’t feel like drawing any pictures if you can’t get that.

In fact, when you buy any software product, you’re just a ‘borrower’, not an owner. You have a right to use it but it’s not yours.

Haha

I love it. People who are obviously not as intelligent as they think they are.

Until you have spent many hours using a product don’t comment on it. You make yourself look very silly.

There is not a major sim racing title I have not owned and I don’t troll this site making a fool of myself with stupid comments.

I think this video is pretty good.

Meh, most sim racers will end up subscribing to iRacing at some point, no matter how hard the hate is right now. Its simply really good, all of it. Once you try (not the Solstice) you will get hooked.

Your are wrongly assuming that your needs match everyone elses, which is certainly not the case.

Actually the guy who made the video said that he only ever slowed down the video – no speed ups. That’s the real speed of the thing. The real ones look sped up too.

“In fact, when you buy any software product, you’re just a ‘borrower’, not an owner. You have a right to use it but it’s not yours.”

Exactly. When you buy a game, you only buy the license to use it for the duration of the contract (the “license agreement”). You do not own the software. The company selling the game to you can take it away from you at any time, by terminating your license.

Thats not the Goal stabiz..Mate!
 We had in Germany a National Crime-Doku, called “Nepper-Schlepper-Bauernfänger”..iRacing is exactly that Testimonial, wich promote in that Ex Crime Doku, N-SCH-B!

Muuuuhhhhh 8-)

oh and how many times does that happen ?  Or ever ?   And what duration ?   How long does my GTR2 licence last then ?
At least you have a disc with the game on that is a physical thing.  No-one can stop you installing it and worst comes to the worst, there are ways around that.  Plus it’s a one off payment and not something you have to keep renting and never own.

Yes we know with such products as Windows or Office etc you are paying for the licence not the product, but lets face it when you buy a game its like buying a music CD.  Its yours and no-one can take it away from you.

It seems like you’re working for Iracing… or simply you use it, like your choice HAS TO BE the right one, because you CANNOT be wrong.
But who told you that someone MAYBE will enjoy both? (fva and iRacing)
and last thing… never underestimate offline playing, the big part of the market (and I mean MARKET, not a drop in the sea like simracing) is there, not online.

And you continue to miss the point.

Again, people whine about the price of iR. As the Ferrari Product has shown, it’s pretty competitively priced when you consider the package. Again, what is a racing sim without racing? Your not going to be playin that in a couple of months in its standard format – unless your obsessed with Ferrari.

You may “own” that product, but you likely wont get near the amount of use you do out of this “rental” product so many have bitched about. Think about that. 

What that entire rant is about is how gulible this community is. Many believed Shi(f)t was going to be the thing, when in general, most sim racers are not happy with it from a sim standpoint. But they bought it, because they were told it was what they wanted. It’s as simple as that. Far to many here fail to actually think about the product. As soon as some dev releases something that claims “It’ll be more realistic” half the people round here jump to “OMG! This will be the best sim ever!”. Instantly.

Why not be skeptical of a product claiming to be the most accurate Ferrari Race Car simulation Ever, when we found out about it not even 2 weeks before it’s intended launch? Cmon, does that NOT send up red flags?

Sure, Kunos is behind it. I’m sure it’ll be a decent sim. But again, you only get out what you put in. It may not be a sim at all – who knows, it could be Grid F1 style. But still, every single word in their press release would be correct. Learn to read between the PR Man’s lines and make a decision for yourself rather than getting hyped up about what could easily be nothing at all.

No, I get what your saying. But what I’m saying is you cannot neglect the physics outright.

GP4 for example comes to mind here. :)

So, yea. What we all really want is the ability to drive one car around one track with no other cars in sight.

Hell, if I want that I’ll go find a parking lot and do it for real.

Read my comment people. Think about it. How can you bitch about price for one product, when a product that offers – seemingly – similar features at the same quality costs damn near the same? Now how in the world is that right people?

So, yea. What we all really want is the ability to drive one car around one track with no other cars in sight. Is that really what you want? No competition outside a ghost car? Is that your ideal Racing Game? Chances are, you’d rather actually race. Be it online or offline.  
 
Hell, if I want to drive with no other cars I’ll go find a parking lot and do it for real. Sure, it may not be a FW31 or F10, but the graphics and physics are top notch, and the track is better than laser scanned.
 
Read my comment people. Think about it. How can you bitch about price for one product, when a product that offers – seemingly – similar features at the same quality costs damn near the same? Now how in the world is that right people?

Wont be that way for long though, and you guys know that. Wait, they’ll find ways to strip features out of future products to make sure you keep paying them.

Actually companies shutting down game login servers and disabling multiplayer happens all the time. People are also banned from online games constantly for breaching behavioral obligations within the license agreement.

The dots on the game disc that store the information of the game are no different to the dots on the hard drive that store the downloaded game. A downloaded game has the same physical properties of a game on a disc. You are free to re-write either item, and delete the content contained. Any percieved difference is purely psycological, and is only subject to danger by your own ineptitude.

So what if you have to pay a monthly fee? It’s only the price of a single cheap entree, and it’s only once a month. Plus, by racing, you get credit for free content. And a lot of service is provided for your $10 per month – you get leagues run and moderated, you get servers, you get match-making, you get community policing, you get continual updates… it’s a steal.

Keep on doing your thing Holger…i find humor in the senile nature of your rants!

Holger creates comedy gold.

Your all sooo goddamn boring.

My sims the best! No mine! My sim is great despite the monthly fee! No mine is great because I pay for it once! My sim is better than yours because it models one car awesomely! No mine is better because it offers 12 differing cars! Mine has rain! No mine has this!

Does it not get so tedious from both sides? One thing that annoys me about iRacers is the elitism. One thing that annoys me about everyone else is the constant inability to get over the pricing scheme. YOU’VE KNOWN FOR YONKS!

What happened to this community? It’s just so pathetic. I for one will enjoy them all. rFactor provides me with hours of fun. iRacing did when I subsribed apart from the wreckers. GTR2 will continue to have a space on my harddrive. Race On offers touring car racing brilliant. F1 2010 will join the ranks.

I want realism. I also want great graphics. Customisation. Most importantly. I want FUN. I want to tune my setup and take Turkey’s Turn 8 flatout and have a smile crack on my face. I want to master Road Atlanta’s esses in iRacing. No one game is the be all and end all. They all have their flaws. Enjoy them all. Get over the petty arguments. It going boring months ago.

Oh and for the record. This looks awesome! As the characters on HIMYM would say.

Even if I subscribe to the opinion that if your going to do a teaser video. At least do it in reasonable quality. We’re in the HD age now.

I think it’s more-like; we’re all bored waiting for rFactor2.

Virtualr is made up predominately of rFactor users. Although there’s no easy way to prove that, it’s probably true. GTR2 is probably second and iRacing is probably near the bottom or something in numbers next to LFS. But the minorities always shout the loudest, generally drawing more attention and making this appear more significant than it will be, when really it won’t make the slightest difference to iRacings popularity.

Meanwhile, the people who actually matter are the silent guests who make up the huge bulk of anons, who don’t like subscriptions!

I think it’s more-like; we’re all bored waiting for rFactor2.  
 
Virtualr is made up predominantly of rFactor users. Although there’s no easy way to prove that, it’s probably true. GTR2 is probably second and iRacing is probably near the bottom or something in numbers next to LFS. But the minorities always shout the loudest, generally drawing more attention and making this appear more significant than it will be, when really it won’t make the slightest difference to iRacings popularity.  
 
Meanwhile, the people who actually matter are the silent guests who make up the huge bulk of anons, who don’t like subscriptions!

+1 Wow… someone feels as I do!

Be4 careful posting logical sensible information, people won’t understand  ;)

Most iRacers here are long term simmers who are also likely Gm2 users at one point or another. In fact, I’d say most iRacers in general are long term simmers who at one point were playing GTR2 or rF or ARCA Sim racing or Race and so on and so forth.

You keep doing it, assuming your needs match everyone else’s, which is apparently not the case. Let me spell it out for you, one last time…

Most of iRacing stuff is not appealing to me. Neither its content, nor its pricing policy, nor its PR manufactured elitism. The “outdated” LFS offers roughly 80% of what iRacing offers today in 1/10th of the price, for christ shakes!

I know you’ll be surprised but, yes, sometimes all I need is to just hotlapping against other hotalappers or against a ghost. Other times all I need is to be able to recreate the F1 GP I watched last weekend, or the Le Mans endurance race. Other times I feel like participating in a league as a driver or as a team manager. Other times I feel like orginizing a league and attract as many people as possible, for the shake of my local sim-racing community.

Guess what, I can already do all the above and much more (and I’m doing them for many years) without even touching iRacing! And the really “funny” thing is that I can do them all a) on demand b) with one time payment and c) at less than half of the iR price.

Today LFS costs €30,00, nKpro costs €20,00, rFactor costs €20,00, GTR2 costs €10,00. €80,00 in total, less than a yearly subscription of iR, without even calculating the cost of extra cars and tracks you need to purchase in order to move on to the ladder.

So don’t assume your needs match mine, as I don’t assume mine match yours.

As always you two are only counting the cost of the title and forgetting the renting of the game server you are playing your league on.  This is also what iracing provides… stable servers with people on them in more or less your skill level.

I also own nearly if not all the great titles. I love gran turismo series as much as I do rfactor, GTR series, iracing, LFS, GPL, I can go on…

Its all been great! GP 1 to 4 were all master pieces back in the day.

I got into with commodore c64 and then to PC with grand prix circuit and indianapolis days back in the 80s and 90s.

I made my own analogue steering wheel from joystick pots back in the early 90s.

I get a little upset when anyone trashes a driving game which has given me loads of hours of fun.

“You’re kinda comparing a hire car to a car that you actually own.”

Yeah but the hire car is a supercar, and the one you own is a kit-car.

Don’t worry, he just needs to get a job.  He’s angry his parents won’t pay his way.

We’ve all spent £60 per year on something we never ever use/wear/eat.    Yet iRacing, that you would use pretty oftern, and get imense pleasure out of, is wayyy out of our price range ;T

as a user of both iracing and rfactor i can put and end to this debate.
iracing, taking into account all the factors – sucks. and its frustrating coz it could potentially be amazing, if they lowered the price, made the races much smaller laps so its jump in and play like lfs, but whilst still holding proper big races in full on championships.
iracing have tried to copy the format of actual racing – unfortunately when youre testing in real life, its fun. in a game its boring as hell. no matter how much they try and sell it like real life, its not. its a game, just like any other simulator. 
the 2 hour waits between races, the LACK of races (especially with the radical), and last but not least, the retarded safety rating system, where, in real life, motorsport is very much a close contact aggresive sport. IN iracing, a tiny glance with someone and you damage your car, or lose your safety rating. What this means is it creates a completely artificial environment that ISNT racing AT ALL, with everyone scared to make a decent move down the inside. 
The fact that they have a decent complaint system that works, means the safety rating is nothing more than an annoyance. If a competitor is crazy driving, you can complain, and the moderator will review the replay – so why the safety rating?

the fact that it FORCES you to pay over a certain period of time, because you have to work your way through to get the licenses (which they only fixed recently with a fast track scheme, after recognizing their failure). the physics also, for the downforce generating cars, suck. For the heavy road cars, they are amazing, but the game for whatever reason makes the star mazda, for eg, have zero compliance, and the tyres seem to have an ‘all or nothing’ level of grip. In reality if you watch any of the star mazda vids onboard the cars are very easy to drive, you can wrestle them, they have a window of grip before they let go (like all tyres in all cars). 

i of course stopped subscribing last year – maybe they’ve improved the tyre model – and as soon as this new williams car comes out i will indeed resubscribe and try it out. 
it might be amazing – and i’ll still unsubscribe. you know why? 2 hour waits between races. Length of races being 1 hour each time (yawn). what simracer can be bothered with that? If you want that, JOIN A LEAGUE. 

LFS has set the standard for jump in and drive gameplay, whilst still being a sim. Iracing had the potential to be AMAZING, and steal ALL of us away from our rfactors and gtrevos, but they havent. They’ve marketed it as a BS ‘real simulator’, and argue its cheap, compared to real life. Yeh, its also cheap compared to a house. Or a real car. Or a boat. 

And who needs iracing F1 anyway. When you have ferrari coming out with an awesome looking sim experience, based on the nkpro engine (apparently), all for only 15 euros, a 1 off payment, WITH PRIZES. 

the end. 

moschum as a user of both iracing and rfactor i can put and end to this debate.  iracing, taking into account all the factors – sucks. and its frustrating coz it could potentially be amazing, if they lowered the price, made the races much smaller laps so its jump in and play like lfs, but whilst still holding proper big races in full on championships.  iracing have tried to copy the format of actual racing – unfortunately when youre testing in real life, its fun. in a game its boring as hell. no matter how much they try and sell it like real life, its not. its a game, just like any other simulator.   the 2 hour waits between races, the LACK of races (especially with the radical), and last but not least, the retarded safety rating system, where, in real life, motorsport is very much a close contact aggresive sport. IN iracing, a tiny glance with someone and you damage your car, or lose your safety rating. What this means is it creates a completely artificial environment that ISNT racing AT ALL, with everyone scared to make a decent move down the inside.   The fact that they have a decent complaint system that works, means the safety rating is nothing more than an annoyance. If a competitor is crazy driving, you can complain, and the moderator will review the replay – so why the safety rating?   the fact that it FORCES you to pay over a certain period of time, because you have to work your way through to get the licenses (which they only fixed recently with a fast track scheme, after recognizing their failure). the physics also, for the downforce generating cars, suck. For the heavy road cars, they are amazing, but the game for whatever reason makes the star mazda, for eg, have zero compliance, and the tyres seem to have an ‘all or nothing’ level of grip. In reality if you watch any of the star mazda vids onboard the cars are very easy to drive, you can wrestle them, they have a window of grip before they let go (like all tyres in all cars). Same problem with the indycar.  i of course stopped subscribing last year – maybe they’ve improved the tyre model – and as soon as this new williams car comes out i will indeed resubscribe and try it out.   it might be amazing – and i’ll still unsubscribe. you know why? 2 hour waits between races. Length of races being 1 hour each time (yawn). what simracer can be bothered with that? If you want that, JOIN A LEAGUE.    LFS has set the standard for jump in and drive gameplay, whilst still being a sim. Iracing had the potential to be AMAZING, and steal ALL of us away from our rfactors and gtrevos, but they havent. They’ve marketed it as a BS ‘real simulator’, and argue its cheap, compared to real life. Yeh, its also cheap compared to a house. Oh, and the sounds SUCK too. I subscribed for a good half a year, and felt that after those 6 months, what i was getting from it didnt justify the expenditure, when I can jump into an LFS server and experience close tight racing, for free, instantly. 
And who needs iracing F1 anyway. When you have ferrari coming out with an awesome looking sim experience, based on the nkpro engine (apparently), all for only 15 euros, a 1 off payment, WITH PRIZES.    the end. 

“as a user of both iracing and rfactor i can put and end to this debate.”

first sentence and already wrong.

Empty, Im not neglecting the physics at all.  What makes you think, as a sim racer, I would do that ?
There are many elements that make up a simulation and that immersiveness (is that a word ?).
iRacing for all its laser scanned tracks and accurate physics does miss out in some areas that F1-2010 doesn’t.   It’s what you personally get out of them that counts.  What the experience of driving them does to you.   Accuracy is great of course, but Ive subscribed to iRacing twice now and on both occasions barely played it.  Its not because iRacing isnt quality because no-one can argue that it is.   I just don’t get as much out of it as I do with other titles.  Is that a sin ?
I don’t see a rulebook here that tells me what I have to like or prefer.

Try racing that FW31 in the rain or at Monaco in iRacing.  You can’t do it.    It’s just my way of saying that you cannot make F1 comparisons between iRacing and F1-2010 like that.    All you’re saying is that iracings physics and track accuracy will be better.   Hmmm we know that already.  Beyond that F1-2010, in F1 terms, walks all over iRacing.

Empty, Im not neglecting the physics at all.  What makes you think, as a sim racer, I would do that ?  
There are many elements that make up a simulation and that immersiveness (is that a word ?).  
iRacing for all its laser scanned tracks and accurate physics does miss out in some areas that F1-2010 doesn’t.   It’s what you personally get out of them that counts.  What the experience of driving them does to you.   Accuracy is great of course, but Ive subscribed to iRacing twice now and on both occasions barely played it.  Its not because iRacing isnt quality because no-one can argue that.   I just, personally, don’t get as much out of it as I do with other titles.  Is that a sin ?  
I don’t see a rulebook here that tells people what they have to like or prefer.  
 
Try racing that FW31 in the rain or at Monaco in the dry in iRacing.  Race it against a full F1 grid. You can’t do it.  Well I prefer to be able to if I’m going to race F1. 
It’s just my way of saying that F1 type comparisons cannot be made between iRacing and F1-2010 like that.    All that is saying is that iRacings physics and track accuracy will be better.   Hmmm we know that already.  Looking beyond that (and you should be able to) F1-2010, in F1 terms, walks all over iRacing.

hey pleb! Do like the LMT MOD! LOL How is it ? :)

I wouldn’t mind hiring a supercar from time to time, but to keep on doing it month after month and never owning it..  nah.    Other have different views.  Whatever makes you happy.
Just don’t keep coming with the ‘best physics, best track accuracy’ speil all the time.  People will go with what they are happy with regardless of cost or accuracy. 
I’m not slagging off iRacing because it’s a superb platform and it’s building up all the time.
Most of us here don’t have any real racing experience to compare iRacing or any other title with the real thing but we are told to believe iracing is the most accurate experience (and I dont doubt for a minute that it isn’t), but we believe it because they have some real data to play with (been done before) and pro drivers who may or may not have bene involved with marketing it have said so.   
I know in F1 teams, I will get far more out of FSOne09 that I even will with iRacings FW31.  That fact has nothing to do with accuracy.

All being said, iRacings Williams looks great.  I’m sure it’s going to drive well, but I dont want to be on a grid with 23 other Williams FW31s in a race.   That’s not for me.

There is so much wrong with that text. :) Complaining that 1 hour races are long … Most races in iracing are too short. As for the safety rating, it rules. The racing is hard and mostly fair, but you rarely see idiot dive bombs from two car lenghts back due to … yes, the safety rating system.

iRacing is not perfect by any means, but the points raised here – an presented as some kind of end all truth – are bs.

clearly this guy has no clue what simracing is. If you want shorter races, go drive need for speed shift online or grid or something like that. Iracing is a simulator and it’s damn obvious that it’s not like real racing, but its sure close. I’d be willing to say that about 90 percent of iracing’s members WANT the long races. The 2 hour gap in between is fantastic as it helps stop the morons from joining with no practice. You didnt do a very good job of ending the debate.

  So now lets talk about the Innovated iRacing Monstermarketing “SimRaper” Company!

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All What Staiz is..all what the SoundGuru is..All what , Modder, Painter, Racer, Everything what we all are..is a Natural Product from the OpenSource Modding Comminitie!

iRacing is just a Joke!

In 2002 as Simbin stars there CommercialCareer..the complete , whole ModdingSceene fired up her Guns..in every MainCommunitie..Simbin got hunted and diskriminate as OsamaBinLaden from every discrimated felt Buddy!

Today..Simbin/Blimey is Simbin/Blimey/NFS/rfactor(IsI)…and just apaart and Basics of your SelfmadeCommintie.
And then today comes iRacing..a closed, unmoddable, unsportie, unsocial, MonsterMarketing SimraceCompany..and Nobody critized construktive there Concept!

Guys..i know, Mainstream isnt easy to realize..but if you lost your haughtiness, then its better nailing your Wheel onto the Wall!

Have a Nice Sunday
Holger

why dont you just post in your proper language instead of mutilating english like you are. I can barely understand anything you said there. Either way, this crap is ridiculous. Nobody cares what anyone else thinks. People are going to do what they want to do regardless of what you say. Just because some of you dislike iracing, doesn’t mean i’m going to go out and cancel my subscription. I love it. I love all other sims as well I would never get on a forum and try to badmouth other sims. All you guys can complain about is the pricing. come at me with something other than that. I’ve been simracing every day for 3 years now and i’ve had some of the best races of my life on iracing. I’ve had great races on rfactor and gtr evo too, but iracing has given me the most joy so far. If you cant afford it, dont bitch about it. Nobody is forcing you to pay or drive it.

This video wasn’t made by iRacing, it’s a fanmade video with segments taken from iRacingTV or whatever it’s called.

BULLSHIT, go and play mariokart instead or your carsa in Rfactor made by some sweaty bloke in a basement..

Iracing is the real deal, the rest is just cars with madeup physics and numbers.

Iracing has worked closely with Williams to give us the realest possible simultation of an F1 car. 

Why even reply in a thread that´s about Iracing when you don´t like it? Because your a troll that´s why.

And i haven´t even metnioned the tracks with are the biggest selling point for Iracing.

I guess some people don´t like to pay more for QUALITY.

@Rob..please give us a Edit Function^^

iRacing is just a Joke!

You are pal, posting your lame shit here time and again!

thank you

cunt

Seventy-odd comments and virtually none revolving around:

a. The FW31;
b. The preview itself.

Just: my sim is better than your sim.

It’s becoming pretty pathetic, chaps – it has to be said.

For my part: the FW31 and Spa-Francochamps will really make or break iRacing for me. I’m rather excited by this release.

There is to many “I don`t care so much about realism as long as it is FUN” people here….let the flaming begin :)

Looks good, can’t wait to give it a try.

@moschum
 - Wow… that must be a record for the longest trolling rant ever, without a single word of truth in it!

Holger, without using random words and comparison’s to Bin Laden or mastubating, please explain why you dont seem to like Alex’s work on this video…i think its very well done, yet it seems to have made you unnecessarily angry…

Obviously you seem to think that iRacing is out to kill all simracing, which is catagoricly untrue.

You are acting like a child and im getting sick of it.

‘unmoddable, unsportie, unsocial”

Unmoddable, yes it is, and thats one of its best features. Never do i have to worry if im going to get a mismatch, never do i have to worry aout quality, never do i have to tweak anything. I love rfactor mods, i fully appriciate the modding community, but it is nice to have no worries, and consistant quality.

Unsportie, not sure what that means….but id guess it has to do with competition level. And if you’d tried iracing for more than 5 minutes, you’d see that it has some of the most competetive racing in the sim world, and hundreds of real world drivers using it regularly. The Pro and WDC series have the best simracers in the world.

Unsocial, again, if you used it, you’d see its got one of the most active sim forums ive ever seen, thy broadcast races, they release tons of info and previews, they are in communication with sites all over the sim community.

You seem to compare the launch of Simbin from modding team to company (and the flak they took) to iracing’s creation, yet Papyrus (iracing) was never a mod team…theyve been making sims since early 90s. Theyve made the two of the best sims of all time GPL and n2k3 yet you and people like you, sit here and shout fire in a crowded theater.

MigF1: Simply said: you get what you pay for.

rFactor: idiots in the servers, mediocre service, estimated but not all bad physics and cars.
iRacing: safety system, good service, laser scanned cars, tracks and physics, meaning the total feel of driving an F1 car.

So don’t assume that rFactor is better than iRacing. Because it most certainly is not.

Geez…I don’t often comment but seriously Holger, you´re making a fool out of yourself here.

You´re not making sense, and I´m not talking about your odd German-English mix (most of which I can understand because people who understand German somewhat know what you want to say)… it must be hard for all others though.

How is iRacing raping the community? They offer a service for a fair and reasonable price given all the cost required to run their service, license content etc.

You´re free to decide whether or not you want to pay money for their services but nobody is ramming it down your throat. Don’t like their business model? Fine..don’t subscribe then. But I fail to see how it negatively affects the community and other simulations.

Nobody is taking GTR Evolution, rFactor and all the mods you talk about away from you so how is this iRacing’s fault and “rape”?

You obviously like their content, otherwise you wouldn’t get all worked up about it. So I guess you´re not willing to pay what they ask…that’s fine, but no reason to flip out. Do you go to the next Ferrari dealership and yell at them because you think the cars are to expensive?

It makes no sense…at all.

oh you just wanted to bait then sit back and watch the fun ?   Sorry but I’m going to disappoint you. :)

oh you just wanted to bait then sit back and watch the fun ?   Sorry but I for one am going to disappoint you. :)

oh, so as your name suggests, you just wanted to bait then sit back and watch the fun ?   Sorry but I for one am going to disappoint you. :)

Far from!

lol..82 Comments! 8-)

..Guys..later..i will answers “your” Questions a bit later, in the next few Maunz, ähm Auers^^

If I read about Ferrari Academy (the real one) I read about a training event. Your goal is to be fast and to learn what you’re told to do by supervisors. It’s not the purpose of the event to race. There you have to show driving skills. I think they will try to reproduce this on a software… stop. You dont find it funny, I think (and hope) there’s nobody forcing you with a gun to buy it, you’ve already got your out of scale racing simulator, have fun with it. Personally I care about 5% about racing online, I like to drive, faster than I can sometimes, ignorant and dirty as I can other times (drifting). This on real life as on virtual life. You can beat me on race? hat off on you, personally I’ll sleep well same as before.
I will buy ferrari virtual academy at 100% and I think I wont be the only one… for me the hot combo will be f10 + mugello… a total blast. And don’t forget about the competition, that’s REAL, 5 guys will have the opportunity to do the real ferrari academy, and probably drive a Formula One… FOR REAL.

First of All Mates..Mates!?..Hmmm..Who Cares^^

We live in a Democracy.
If i mean..the iRacing Concept is like “SimRapeing”, then is it at first my personal Meaning, and second my serios, constructive Critizm, to the Modern Multimedia Phishing Mentality, in “our” Internet!

All what i say about iRacings Concept…and im only talk about this Concept, not about there technical Stuffs or User, Member, just the Simracer!
My personal Experiences from 10Years “PlusMinusX”, of HardcoreSimracing, around the World..is that the Rent A-Game Concept is like “Raping”, is Like “Drugdealing”, is infact “PredatorCapitalism”!

If iRacing were a just a normal Game, a Product, a DvD if were iRacing my Ownership..and its costs 99Euro, then i would buy it for 100 Euro!, because then its MINE!
You all iRacing User..are just Customers..iRacing is not yours!

GTEvo will never Leasing a SimracinGame, or any Game! Leasing a Game is just “VirtualScientology”, A Joke, and not in the Sense of Sport, of the Nature from Gaming..that means PLAYING..and we all learned to play in a Sandbox!
Im 44Years “Young”..i will always be a Child, a Serios SimraceVeteram with social Competence, learnd and formed in 25 Years SoccerCareer ina FootballClub, and never a Manipulate MainstreamZombie to be a SimraceJunkie, who must lease a Game to stay with there Friends, Buddies etc.

This is just a Joke..Guys!

BTW, or ByTheWay 8-) ..if use ” “..then its a dictum..a Byword..if i talk then from “Rapeing” then it means the deeper Philosophie of a Precept. iRacing User get constrained on the psychologic SocialNetwork Flow…to stay with there Friends, by paying Money, Month per Month, hidden as Game, a Gameing Communitie!

Sportsfreunde..
Feel free to use whatever you want..but please..dont try to bash me, 8-) if have an individuall, different, much complex, “Wider” View about a the unsocialst GameingConcept of the World!

In This Sense

ThinkBig
Holger

not an argument, haven’t refuted anything in my statement – disqualified. 

‘most races in iracing are too short’.

no…..they aren’t too short, they are too long. you can’t jump in and play, when races are 45 mins +. This would be okay if grids are full, but they rarely are. 

as for the safety rating – ive already explained why its pointless, when you can just send a replay and complain to an iracing marshall. and it does deter from really close intense racing. 

nothing of what you said stands – disqualified. 

yeh in the same way that codemasters worked closely with the F1 teams to deliver the closest possible simulation of an F1 car. 

this would all be fine if iracing was actually realistic, but it isn’t (with the open wheeled cars).

i love how its conned everyone into making them play boring as hell races, but because its been marketed and branded as a pure simulator delivering the most realistic racing experience, as an alternative to actual racing, all the iracing n00bs on here bum it for that reason – even tho in reality the racing is virtually non existent. 

it should just be called itesting.

Lets see… Going by your previous post you hate testing, hate the wait between the races and hate the safety rating system because it punished car contact, and the races are too long. By this you come across as one of the heroes from f.i, public rfactor servers, those that dont practice at all (except a quick in and out to get the setup of the current fastest guy on the server), tries to overtake 4 cars in T1 and yells about it afterwards, calling people n00bs. Its just fine by me that you dont like iRacing.

Well I’ll jump in and defend you moschum because I’m in a charitable mood.

I know I have a short attention span, having a schedule for entertainment sounds like torture! I also hate persistent stats, having responsibilities in a game is just anal and I want no part of it. Can’t sacrifice theses freedoms for the better FFB and content in iRacing. That’s me, but it won’t stop participating in these arguments because that’s entertaining too.

@Philip Oakley: Could you please point me out where exacty I implied or assumed that rFactor is better than iRacing? I only said directly that what iRacing offers is not appealing to me (in other words, my sim-racing needs are fully covered without iRacing).

Why cant some of you just accept that many of us get heaps of enjoyment from iracing. I enjoy Rfactor, GPL and GTR2 too.

I dont preach rubbish about other racing titles if I dont like something about them.

The remarks about the service/pricing model are especially silly.

Dont like iracing? Stay out of the comments with your trash. We dont need your garbage.

Now where did I say you are neglecting physics? Heck, I’ve said quite a few times that iRacing really isn’t too far ahead – certainly not enough to warrant the price – just based on physics alone. Because frankly, iRacing isn’t that far ahead at all.

I’m agreeing with you here. I’m just saying you cannot simply neglect basic laws of physics (Grid Much? lol) but cover that up with other things and say it’s a “simulation experience”.

Way I look at the F1 car – I’m not excited. F1 cars are boring as hell. I’ll pick it up though. But here is my thing. Why in the age of league mods for rF, is it such a bad thing that it will be a FW31 only grid? Afterall, in many mods it’s just a graphical change.

Papy Bashers will ALWAYS Papy Bash. :D

Mike, you know Papy Bashers will always Papy Bash. :)

‘Scuse me, how is the racing unrealistic?Sure, it’s just PC Racing, but by and large, it puts any other open server stuff to great shame. Hell, you could put the Pro / WDC races on TV and people would watch them.

I’ve yet to see any wreckers. I rarely see anyone go Takuma Sato on me also. So when you touch wheels you dont instantly fly and die. Big whoop. Are you referring to the lack of Aerodynamic Grip loss? Because if so, well, it’s simple. No car on the road side is Aero Heavy. The Dallara is a pig, the SM isn’t fast enough.

So, because people save their equipment and don’t use 120% of the track, it’s unrealistic?

20 Laps in the Skip with a Guy on your Gearbox fighting for the lead is anything but boring. You don’t have to race the high up cars if you dont want to. The more popular series circumvent the issues you mention.

If you had a problem with wreckers, the problem is simple. Your too damn slow. Speed up and get in higher splits and the racing changes drastically.

So, going to a movie theater for 2-3 hours for the same price as iRacing is “Rapeing”?

World is full of services you must pay to use. Be it movies, night on the town or sim racing. You really fail to comprehend this.

And please pick a language or find a better translator. This is really confusing reading german and english all at once.

I understand that you are upset about iracing’s pricing policy. Probably because you cant afford it and really want to give it a try. You are right, we dont own the sim, but i’d rather pay every month for something that is going to constantly evolve, than pay a flat fee for a sim that i have to hope a mod team will make cars that i want to drive. You get what you pay for in a sense.

When iracing announces a new car or track, they give you a time frame for its release. SP1 for enduracers, keeps getting in the news, but never a release date. This drives me mad. How often do you see a new announcement for a mod that has a release date. Never. It may be a small issue, but this is what paying a monthly fee gets you. You are never in the dark.

Iracing has a wonderful forum community and as you get further up the ranks, you find that you race with familiar names, so it’s not like there is no social aspect.

It was hard for me to drop money on cars and tracks at first, but it is actually a good thing to do. I’ve been a part of many rfactor leagues where drivers just bail out after 3 rounds of a championship, leaving 6 or so drivers to finish it up. If you paid good money for your car, you tend to participate in that season for the whole thing. There isn’t a drop off in numbers as the season progresses and i like that.

yeh in the same way that codemasters worked closely with the F1 teams to deliver the closest possible simulation of rain gfx on an F1 car.

fixed that for ya.

Cheers

I would agree with this 100%

Yes i agree, bloody idiots like moschum have to stay away from iracing and play their NFS shit!

One question.

Who even plays GTR Evo anyways? ;)

Only reason it was worth buying was to get the Nordschleife into GTR2.

What, no shifting lights? *DONT_KNOW*

Dear HOLGER alias GTEvo,

the one and only reason for you being so mad about iracing, can only be the circumstance that you simply can not afford those 8 bucks or so a month :’( ! Poor little boy, ask your daddy for some money!

All other cars in the sim have them, so id assume, since this is still wip, that they ust havent been implemented yet.

*just

Not at all into iRacing, but the carmodel looks good, especially the rims are neatly done. Car produces great sound at the fly-by scene!

been there, done that, everybody is against iRacing subscription model until you give it a fair tryout, after that it is not important at all which model is it, just drive…

my god man please stfu at least until you have a better grasp of the english language… Reading you is like reading my 5 year old son.  Actually, he just might be better…

something grew in my pants watching that… Where’s the preorder!

This is true!

However, there a couple of… issues.

I don’t know for example how much “expandable” iR servers are in the admin side. I mean, in LFS for example, you can use insim applications onto your rented server, providing participants and spectators extra services varying from differrnt point & penalty systems for each league to on-the-fly comparison of splits and laptimes, both against the current oppositions, the current leader and/or the established world record for the given car and track. Or providing them on-screen real-time functionality which is not implemented in the sim itself. Actually the possibilities are endless.

Another issue is that in other sims (besides iracing I mean) you can stop renting a server and still being able to play the game, either offline or online on other people servers ;)

F1Racer: Hehe, well, u don`t need me to ignite the fire here :) Cheers!

Any software product you have paid for is not YOURS actually.  You just paid for a license, a right to use it. Sometimes the right is permanent, sometimes not.    Rread the agreements and you would probably be quite a surprised how different the licensing from owning is.

couldnt agree more

LOL

That’s right.  You are definately not needed.

I have GTR Evolution, bought it because it was cheap and came with another RACE game, don’t think I’ve actually had a proper race on it.

As for having to wait for races on iRacing, I never had that problem. I knew when the races would start, so I’d always log on beforehand and do a 15 minute warmup and then signup for the race. Not to mention that the practice servers always have people on them, so you’re not completely void of action.

Each to their own on race lengths, it’s understandable that some don’t have the time to do 1+ hour races. Though I always found when I raced the Trucks, that I wanted the race to be longer, was always surprised when I heard I saw 10 laps remaining.

The sound at that point was just an add in sound, but iRacing is reworking their sound engine right now using FMOD, so hopefully the real sounds will be just as good. It is too bad that they used the guy who made this video, he always is heavy on effects and doesnt actually show the content.