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10 people 6 months… that’s a lot of man hours to make a track.

The tracks are pretty special. It’s hard to appreciate them just by videos on Youtube. Feeling the bumps, dips, camber changes, etc in the sim is impressive. I think it’s more even than just the accuracies and subtlties of the track itself, it’s iRacing’s FFB, which translates those subtlities to your wheel.

iRacing is getting the F1 Williams and Williams has laser scanned the F1 tracks for their simulation.

I saw this post in the iRacing forums. Worth showing here.

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I’ve read a post by one of the Williams F1 Simulator (Jimmy123 over at GTPLANET) guys who discusses just why Laser Scanned tracks are so important to simulation.

The link to the thread is here : http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=115411

An excerpt :

So you have a track, and the grip seems to vary around the lap … but why? If you’re writing a game and the car goes unrealistically fast through one corner, you say to yourself “Well, it’s probably to do with the asphalt in that corner, so we’ll take a few percent off the grip level”. An -hey presto- the car goes at the right speed through the corner, and everyone thinks they’ve done a good job.

This is exactly what we had with one circuit that wasn’t laser-scanned, and we reduced the grip in one specific corner. Then along came the laser-scan, which (to look at) wasn’t different from the original … but suddenly the correlation was excellent without the need for reduced grip. The reason was that the bumps in the surface were causing load fluctuations at the contact patch, and this causes grip to drop (which is why you want as much damping on your car as you can get).

Now we start to see the difference between a game and a simulation. In the game, the car will always lose grip in that corner, because the grip-loss is built into the circuit. But in the simulation, it might be possible to fit the car with better dampers, and reduce the load fluctuations, and go through the corner faster. If you’re just using your sim for circuit-learning then the game will probably be OK, and the lap-times will be about right, as will the top speed, apex speeds etc. But if you want to do any serious engineering work, you need to have a simulation that not only gives the correct results, but gives them for the correct physical reason … so that if you modify your car, its performance will vary in a realistic way.

very informative video,

Now we start to see the difference between a game and a simulation. In the game, the car will always lose grip in that corner, because the grip-loss is built into the circuit. But in the simulation, it might be possible to fit the car with better dampers, and reduce the load fluctuations, and go through the corner faster. If you’re just using your sim for circuit-learning then the game will probably be OK, and the lap-times will be about right, as will the top speed, apex speeds etc. But if you want to do any serious engineering work, you need to have a simulation that not only gives the correct results, but gives them for the correct physical reason … so that if you modify your car, its performance will vary in a realistic way.

I always felt that way, but without the techincal savvy was unable to express this concern, some people lower grip on the rfactor tracks and that just feels crazy to me, like ICERACING

the first video was very interesting. the amount of work that goes into one track is crazy.

the second video is
dale jr. should focus more on his real life performance he blows driving for the best team in nascar. so much for iracing training.

yeah first video really nice and informative.
second video too. looks like dale jr. is on weed or something.

can’t wait for mid-ohio

Nice vid on the laser scanning. The accuracy is amazing

First video is amazing, but something I noticed when I watched the second video is that in the end he talks about how new people can join iRacing and everything. And he says that everyone is running the same car set-up.

Now, I’ve never done iRacing, the main reason being that I’m not that good in making set-ups and that I’m not that good at driving a car that is not set-up properly.
But if everybody is running the same set-up I would be very interested in picking up a license this summer. Could somebody confirm this?

Tis’ true.

The Rookie cars are all fixed setup. The skippy has minimal option when it comes to setups and that makes for great racing.

Even if you don’t know how to build a setup there are plenty on the forum. Each car has its own forum to talk about setups and share them.

Go for it. :)

Thanks for the reply, and I must say that sounds awesome.
I’ll give it a go in a few weeks time, when I finish this school year.

Thanks again.

gtrNL: Thanks for the reply, and I must say that sounds awesome.
I’ll give it a go in a few weeks time, when I finish this school year.Thanks again.

Yeah or you can ask someone in a practice session to share or help with a setup, most of the time people would help you out

Aah, so there is a possibility to share set-ups in-game? Just like in LfS?

Yep, you can share setups ingame, to everyone in the server, or to 1 person in the server, what ever he/you might like best. And like said above, go on the forum and you will ALWAYS find a good setup. The Solstice and Rookie Legends are fixed setup, so is the VW Jetta. The Skip Barber has minimal setup options, and all other cars you can set up in the normal way, but for that you have the forum :)

simracer64: 10 people 6 months… that’s a lot of man hours to make a track.

It is. I imagine someone will have to write a game eventually to use them.

Thanks for the info blaarontjes.
If I was going to eventually buy a extra car it would have been the Jetta (or C6.R).

gtrNL go for the Jetta only if you enjoy momentum racing… The ‘Vette is best suited to those that enjoy dedicating enough time and energy to taming a true beast.

Vette isn’t really a populair series, better go for the Jetta or Skip Barber, 2 great starting points, the Skip Barber learns you just a tat more though.

Some info for people thinking of joining iRacing:

Let’s say you get a basic account, get to Class D, and decide to move up to a series, something like the Corvette or Falcon. Want to know the cost? About $150 for the content required to fully participate. People seem to think it’s a few bucks a month plus the occasional track, but it’s much more than that.

Also they ban people for making fun of NASCAR. They have a message board of exclusively positive vibes and high fives, but I guess that goes for the rest of the internet as well.

The worst thing is that going back to Simbin titles after trying iRacing seems like a significant step down now. I didn’t feel like this was the case a year ago, but now I don’t see any reason to have RFactor or GTR Evolution installed anymore.

I guess if iRacing suspends my account for more Dale Ernhardt jokes then I’ll finally pick up NetKar and just stick with that.

Moral of the story: Dont be a douche and you’ll have no problems.

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I made fun of NASCAR many times before. Still not banned. Though yesterday there was someone posting a pic of Dale’s FATAL wreck in a funny way, that’s not good, they don’t do that with Senna or Gilles either. So if you got banned for it, you where being a moron.

i’ve always wondered… with the laser scanning they know every bump of the track, but there are also different grip levels because the asphalt is worn out in some braking zones for example. how do they measure that?

orubasarot: Some info for people thinking of joining iRacing:Let’s say you get a basic account, get to Class D, and decide to move up to a series, something like the Corvette or Falcon.Want to know the cost?About $150 for the content required to fully participate.People seem to think it’s a few bucks a month plus the occasional track, but it’s much more than that.

I agree with this to a point, as when you first step up from the Rookie classes it costs quite a bit to get the new tracks for the next series, but after that first step-up, I found for any subsequent series you normally only need the car and a couple of tracks as each series doesn’t run entirely different tracks to he others.

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The way i see it is, i spend about £120 (~$160+) in a single month on cigerettes – which do nothing but kill me. In the 5 or so months ive been iracing ive spent around £100 on cars and tracks (currently class B licence racing in star mazda season) and i get immense pleasure out of it. I’ve been racing sims since GC’s GP series and theres nothing like iracing, sure it needed and still needs tweaking, but we do get regular updates and good communication from the devs. (new tire model coming soon also!)

Also, what is not mentioned in orubasarot’s post, is that once you’ve spent that initial £100 or so on tracks to compete in class D and higher, you’ve pretty much got most of the tracks you’ll need for future seasons – give or take a couple.

I’ve no problem spending the odd 10 or so dollars now n again for the amount of work that goes into creating the tracks we get.

As far as hobbies go in the world, iracing is by far one the cheapest to have.

orubasarot I’m disappointed they didn’t ban you as you were deliberately provoking people and being bloody immature.

If iRacing is too expensive for your hobby budget fair enough, no-ones holding a gun too your head.

Lol Pleb hehe

orubasarot:Fetishism for authority and NASCAR sure go hand in hand though, every other infant was screaming for Nim in that thread.

The forums is the worst part of iracing!

ancient forum software that is being used like twitter by a bunch of eagerly desirous cry babies

Fixed Setup racing, NOW!!!!; No I want rain; no we need the high groove; but it is 2010 and we still don’t have dirt on windshield; I’ll pay 100$ for nordschleife; NR2k3 had pit crew and we are in 2010 ; SR sucks ; +1 +1 +10000

stay out of there!!

orubasarot: Your passive aggressive sass doesn’t count, when I’m flamboastin’ I’m straight mean mugging fools, undersmell me?And I didn’t really get banned for my Dale mural, they just disabled my forum access.Fetishism for authority and NASCAR sure go hand in hand though, every other infant was screaming for Nim in that thread.Anyway back to the sim part, I have to admit it’s nice not having to bother with mods anymore or having to search for events.I’m too old to be digging in .ini files and managing databases of content.We’ll see if the Ring or Targa Florio drag me back to G Motor.

You made fun of someone by joking about the time their father died, complete with picture of said moment.

Gee, I can’t possibly understand why they took away your posting privileges.

orubasarot: I guess if iRacing suspends my account for more Dale Ernhardt jokes then I’ll finally pick up NetKar and just stick with that.

you’re a freaking douche and it’s too bad they just didn’t ban you permanently. How about stick to being an asshat in rFactor or whatever crappy sim you find that you can actually afford. Since you have no money and obviously no class just do us all a favor and stay away from the grownups.

I love the attempt at class war fair. iRacing is for the rich classy grown ups and rFactor is for pore classless kids. Please, iRacing isn’t that expensive. Don’t think for one second that you’re rich because you have an iRacing sub. I have had a sub from the begining and hardly use it, I race in an rFactor league. So what does that make me? Rich but classless? TBH, your post had just as little class as orubasarot’s did.

Back on topic. I loved seeing video of the point clouds. I had no idea they had so much detail. You can’t really tell from the screen shots they put up in the past. I also found it interesting that it picks up color changes in the track surface. I figured they relied entirely on photos and video for that. I guess they get the colors from the pictures and placement from the point clouds.

Hawk:
you’re a freaking douche and it’s too bad they just didn’t ban you permanently. How about stick to being an asshat in rFactor or whatever crappy sim you find that you can actually afford. Since you have no money and obviously no class just do us all a favor and stay away from the grownups.

Uh, not much class in that post either.

Only little drawback on iRacing laserscanned tracks are the grip levels.
They are 100% all over the track.
No extra grippy fastline.. no marbles on the side.

riches:
Only little drawback on iRacing laserscanned tracks are the grip levels.
They are 100% all over the track.
No extra grippy fastline.. no marbles on the side.

i’m not sure about that. i’ve been doing a lot of racing at the laguna over the past week and there’s definitely less grip if you leave the ideal racing line. but this might also be due to the differences in banking throughout the track.

> but this might also be due to the differences in banking throughout the track

That makes all the difference, easier locking the brakes!
Due to higher pressure on one side of the car.

Other than that, grip levels are the same..

orubasarot: Some info for people thinking of joining iRacing:Let’s say you get a basic account, get to Class D, and decide to move up to a series, something like the Corvette or Falcon. Want to know the cost? About $150 for the content required to fully participate. People seem to think it’s a few bucks a month plus the occasional track, but it’s much more than that.

Yeah, I thought that seemed like a lot at first too. Now after a year and a half, I have accumulated all the tracks and it was money well spent. I have the tracks and cars forever (as long as iRacing survives), whenever the tracks get updated iRacing does that for free at the push of a single button – no files to mess with. Once you take the initial money hit, there is actually very little to purchase. Only a few tracks and cars come out every year – wish there was more to buy!!! Bring on Mid-Ohio, Oulton, Williams F1, Ford GT!!!!

marc1111:
Once you take the initial money hit…..

I think that’s really the biggest problem for some people. That initial hit, whether it’s a year sub or a handful of cars and tracks. Sure there are discounts for filling the cart as full as possible, but still that initial hit. Now if you could buy a year sub and all the goodies and then pay monthly for all of it, that would be less of a hit. Miss one payment and turn the account off.

marc1111:
Yeah, I thought that seemed like a lot at first too.Now after a year and a half, I have accumulated all the tracks and it was money well spent.I have the tracks and cars forever (as long as iRacing survives), whenever the tracks get updated iRacing does that for free at the push of a single button – no files to mess with.Once you take the initial money hit, there is actually very little to purchase.Only a few tracks and cars come out every year – wish there was more to buy!!!Bring on Mid-Ohio, Oulton, Williams F1, Ford GT!!!!

Marc, they’ve already said if they have to re-scan the majority of a track we have to pay, but if it’s a minor section we just have to update…

hoboracer:
I think that’s really the biggest problem for some people. That initial hit, whether it’s a year sub or a handful of cars and tracks. Sure there are discounts for filling the cart as full as possible, but still that initial hit. Now if you could buy a year sub and all the goodies and then pay monthly for all of it, that would be less of a hit. Miss one payment and turn the account off.

Hobo, that’s actually a pretty good idea, but I wouldn’t be surprised if iRacing tried to see if that model would work for them…

The current pricing structure is expensive initially, but if it wasn’t like this we may not have the ability to use their sim. It costs a heck of a lot of money to get the licenses, they have to agree to give the tracks and car owners a portion of the money earned from their tracks and cars, and the tracks alone cost iRacing a heck of a lot of money to scan, we’re talking $100K+ at some of the tracks.
All I have to say is you get what you paid for, right now I don’t think I’ll even touch GTR2 again, even though I may not put too many hours into it I’ll probably get rFactor2 when it comes out, but I will be an iRacer till the day I or iRacing dies…

Ace Racer:
Hobo, that’s actually a pretty good idea, but I wouldn’t be surprised if iRacing tried to see if that model would work for them…

The current pricing structure is expensive initially, but if it wasn’t like this we may not have the ability to use their sim. It costs a heck of a lot of money to get the licenses, they have to agree to give the tracks and car owners a portion of the money earned from their tracks and cars, and the tracks alone cost iRacing a heck of a lot of money to scan, we’re talking $100K+ at some of the tracks.

I would even go one step further. Instead of owning the cars and tracks, why not subscribe to them too. If they need to be updated, it should be included, just keep charging every month for whatever content you decide to keep. And charge interest! It would keep the monthly fees & purchases lower and make iRacing more money in the end. I would think they have thought all this through already. I’d rather pay more + interest over the long haul than the higher initial purchase fees.

hoboracer: Now if you could buy a year sub and all the goodies and then pay monthly for all of it, that would be less of a hit. Miss one payment and turn the account off.

To own everything in the service makes no sense, sure it is fun to try stuff out, but most of the time you are going to focus on one or two things at a time. People make it sound like it is a big hit, but it is not, if you only buy the stuff that you care for. You don’t need to buy every track to go up to the next license and you don’t really have to compete on every track during the season.

Actually it is possible to get the to the pro series for $40. By only buying the cars and wait til series hit lime rock, laguna or summit to do the 4 races/time-traials to go up the license ladder, and one can farm rookies for irating, if he really cares so much about those stripes. :D

One point I’d like to add. Cars and Tracks are released at approximately 1 of each per season.

Each season I use the bonus credit they give for pre-ordering said car/track plus the bonus credit they give for participating in two different series to buy said car/track combo.

Basically, I’m getting each new car and track “for free”, and only paying the subscription. Since I subscribed for 2 years, I’m only paying for the 5 euros/month fee, so it’s quite cheap.

On the flip side, the price of buying the cars/tracks that I wanted to drive when I first signed up was a LOT of money.

pleb: The way i see it is, i spend about £120 (~$160+) in a single month on cigerettes – which do nothing but kill me.In the 5 or so months ive been iracing ive spent around £100 on cars and tracks

Well, perhaps. But, quite incontrovertibly iracing is expensive compared with just about every other racing game on the market. Significantly moreso.

There’s no point arguing it isn’t expensive compared with smoking or Parma Ham, when it’s expensive compared to other examples of what it is – a racing game.

It’s also clearly lacking much content compared with many alternatives too, even if you’re willing to spend extra on top of a subscription, you simply cannot get a large %age of, well, what I would consider essential tracks in a racing game – at least one that’s going to make any significant impact in Europe.

Lastly, in sponsorship and advertising it’s clearly nascar-centric.

These are all valid criticisms of the service.

Obviously if you don’t mind a lack of choice, don’t mind spending the extra money and like Nascar, it may be ideal.

But it’s unlikely ever to be more than a niche, mainly USA-based service while they limit the content and advertise it in this way.

One reason for this is, it’s clear that they rely on existing subscribers to pay and buy stuff so they can build the game. (just like codemasters et al rely on selling 6 or 7 figure sums of their game at £40 a pop, to pay for their development. The only difference iracing is tens of thousands)

But WTF am I going to spend money for them to develop bacca chewin’ cotton pickin’ redneck tracks? Of course I’m not, I don’t subscribe at all because there simply isn’t enough content that appeals. But this doesn’t provide them with any money from me to add the content I would like.

Similarly, it seems unlikely that anyone driving around in circles saying how great iracing is today, can care that much about the content I would like to see.

So iracing is the game it is that will appeal to the folk who have already subscribed to it – it has to, otherwise they risk losing their subscribers (or, at best, simply watching them churn) and it’s probably as big as it’ll ever get.

Well, this is to inform the people that say iRacing is NASCAR-centric…

In the iRacing forums Steve Myers has already said that they are in talks with about a dozen potential partners in Europe, that includes a certain track in the Ardennes, and he said they are getting close to sealing the deal on that track. We also are awaiting the announcement of two more Japanese tracks, plus some cars. Later on this year Oran Park will be released, lastly, Oulton Park, and Zolder are still in the pipelines.

iRacing targets NASCAR a lot because it is an American company and NASCAR draws a lot of money. But who cares. It is just marketing. I hate NASCAR more then you could imagine but it doesn’t keep me from running iRacing. There are a ton of great tracks in America. Why do Europeans think their tracks are so superior to American tracks? Give me a break. Road America, Road Atlanta, Sebring, Mid-Ohio, Barber Motorsports. I feel sorry for narrow minded people that miss out on these great tracks simply because they are located in America. I judge a track by it’s layout, not it’s country of origin. Hell I have no problems with fantasy track either. So many people dismiss these tracks when they are perfectly good tracks.

I have to agree that more cars need to be added. The track selection is very good though. The quality of the tracks is unbelievable.

michael: It’s also clearly lacking much content compared with many alternatives too, even if you’re willing to spend extra on top of a subscription, you simply cannot get a large %age of, well, what I would consider essential tracks in a racing game – at least one that’s going to make any significant impact in Europe.
Lastly, in sponsorship and advertising it’s clearly nascar-centric.
These are all valid criticisms of the service.
Obviously if you don’t mind a lack of choice, don’t mind spending the extra money and like Nascar, it may be ideal.
But it’s unlikely ever to be more than a niche, mainly USA-based service while they limit the content and advertise it in this way.

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ermax18: I hate NASCAR more then you could imagine but it doesn’t keep me from running iRacing. There are a ton of great tracks in America. Why do Europeans think their tracks are so superior to American tracks? Give me a break. Road America, Road Atlanta, Sebring, Mid-Ohio, Barber Motorsports. I feel sorry for narrow minded people that miss out on these great tracks simply because they are located in America. I judge a track by it’s layout, not it’s country of origin. So many people dismiss these tracks when they are perfectly good tracks.I have to agree that more cars need to be added. The track selection is very good though. The quality of the tracks is unbelievable.

Pretty much spot on.

Before i had iRacing i was competely unaware of circuits like Road Atlanta, Sebring, etc, but once i’d tried them i was blown away, awesome circuits, seriously

As for more cars, im not actually too concerned atm, but thats because for me i only drive 1 car / season at a time, atm im in the star mazda until this season finishes then i will move onto the lotus 1979 f1 car, so i will run that for 12 weeks before moving onto the next. (not to mention how excited i am by us getting the Williams F1 2009 car)

One big thing about iracing for me, is that i never ever have trouble finding servers with people on wether practice/qualify/race servers, i also never ever have data compatibility issues unlike pretty much every other sim i’ve played.

i think the payment model right now is perfect. there are tons of oval tracks that i’m not interested in and it’s a good thing that i don’t have to pay for them. on the other hand the iracing team is motivated to create new content because they get more money that way. if there would only be a monthly subscription there might be no brands hatch, no zandvoort and no C6.R because it takes a lot of time and money to create this new content.

the way i see it iracing started out to be a successor to Nascar 2003. that was the base to build upon and the foundation to create revenue. the more money they earn the more they can expand the service. right now i feel like the road racing part is their main focus and it’s growing fast.

the most important thing for me is that iracing survives because there’s nothing else like it. imo rfactor is the only thing that comes close but there are so many crappy mods out there and it takes a lot of time to get rF up and running and keep it updated. iracing instead is “plug and play” and the quality of the content is always suberb. what’s more, you never have to worry about finding a server or a league…

michael: it’s probably as big as it’ll ever get.

In 2008 iRacing averaged 26 new subscribers per day…
2009 37
2010 53

That’s the opposite of going away…

In 2008 iRacing averaged 2,000 active users a month. Today iRacing averages 9,000 active members per month.

Again, I don’t see how you figure iRacing is going away. In fact we see more and more press about iRacing everyday here at VirtualR and elsewhere.

You remind me of the Iragi Minister of Information. “There are no tanks in Bagdad”.

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ermax18: iRacing targets NASCAR a lot because it is an American company and NASCAR draws a lot of money. But who cares. It is just marketing. I hate NASCAR more then you could imagine but it doesn’t keep me from running iRacing. There are a ton of great tracks in America. Why do Europeans think their tracks are so superior to American tracks? Give me a break. Road America, Road Atlanta, Sebring, Mid-Ohio, Barber Motorsports. I feel sorry for narrow minded people that miss out on these great tracks simply because they are located in America. I judge a track by it’s layout, not it’s country of origin. Hell I have no problems with fantasy track either. So many people dismiss these tracks when they are perfectly good tracks.I have to agree that more cars need to be added. The track selection is very good though. The quality of the tracks is unbelievable.

I don’t think there’s any dedicated “hatred” of us Euros against American road tracks. It’s just we’re not THAT familiar with them. Decades ago, when our fathers were flying over the Atlantic to participate in one (and later two) F1 races, a couple of Ca-Am and Sportcars enduro races, every motorsport fan from here knew the Glen, Mosport, Laguna, Sebring anf others quite well. Today, with all of these great roadracing series gone from US calendar, there are hardly any Euro drivers competing in America, there’s hardly any US roadracing coverage on our TV and so on… I suppose many young guys over here “discover” your tracks thanks to PC and console games rather than real race highlights, photos etc. Damn, I myself was not aware of Mid Ohio’s existence until VLM made it for rFactor, and now it’s one of my favourite tracks! Same with Road America and the great representation of it made once for NR2K3.

The most popular tracks are the ones you see everyday on TV (or sometimes you even get a chance to drive a few laps around them), that’s why we make so much noise about “our” road circuits – you tend to stick to what you know best.

Cheers.

Art-J, well said.

Jack B: Art-J, well said.

Agreed…
The only thing holding me back from iRacing is the lack of tracks I’M familiar with. The ones I see used for F1, BTCC, DTM, WSB, Moto GP, namely my favourite sports being British/European. I’d never really seen Sebring as much because we don’t see much ALMS etc over here, and the way I learnt my way round was via a certain U.S based Game & dev team, the same goes for Road atlanta but it’s now one of my favourites to lap!

As soon iRacing has the core European tracks/series/cars, you WILL see a big influx of Europeans. I think their future depends on it.

Quite frankly most Europeans/people outside of the U.S couldn’t care less about Nascar.

iRacing needs a couple of South Americn tracks including Interlagos! iRacing is expensive first I’ve expent 317 american dollars only in road content and using coupon every single time and that with a track and the Vett free! Now I hope iRacing will stop eating all my money but it’s by far the best simulator out there. They need to let R2P run races with iRacing!

On Junior people need to give the guy a break he seems to be a great kid but he needs to spend time with Bruno Senna who lost his uncle the best race driver ever who by now would had been the owner of an F1 team or Fia president and his father when cheking if one of Ayrton’s bikes was still working or not all in the same year. Bruno is a warrior and I respect him for that but Junior seems as still haven’t decided to be a warrior or a cry baby! It’s time to make up his mind!

felipe: iRacing needs a couple of South Americn tracks including Interlagos! iRacing is expensive first I’ve expent 317 american dollars only in road content and using coupon every single time and that with a track and the Vett free! Now I hope iRacing will stop eating all my money but it’s by far the best simulator out there. They need to let R2P run races with iRacing!On Junior people need to give the guy a break he seems to be a great kid but he needs to spend time with Bruno Senna who lost his uncle the best race driver ever who by now would had been the owner of an F1 team or Fia president and his father when cheking if one of Ayrton’s bikes was still working or not all in the same year. Bruno is a warrior and I respect him for that but Junior seems as still haven’t decided to be a warrior or a cry baby! It’s time to make up his mind!

Fellipe, yeah Aryton Senna was one of tha alltime greatest if not the alltime greatest F1 driver. Not only was he a great driver, he donated millions mosty anonymously to children’s charties.

Dale Earnhardt Jr. is as down to earth guy as you could ever meet. He’s one of us with no ego. A great ambassador for sim racing and NASCAR.

Yep, Interlagos would make a great addition. As will probably make Potrero de Funes, located in Argentina.

Felipe, it’s interesting to follow the way you changed your approach to iRacing posts. You could even pass for a nice, down to earth guy now!

Art-J, good points there. I am really talking about people that say NA track suck which is clearly not true. I can see your point about tracks you know. I can see where you come from because just about every track in my region (in real life) is modeled in iRacing. I live in North Florida. So Sebring, Homestead, Daytona, Barber and Road Atlanta are all close to home. Moroso (Now called Palm Beach International Raceway) is also in my region and was on the list of iRacing tracks to come but has now been removed. There are some iconic tracks in NA that people go nuts over that personally are over rated. Laguna Seca specifically. As for F1 tracks. Many of them are so boring and lack elevation changes. Not all but many. Spa for example is a must for iRacing. I really love Zandvoort which is now in iRacing. I am also happy to see Brands Hatch.

So far iRacing has Brans Hatch, Zandvoort and Silverstone. But more are in the works.

What iRacing should do is to give access to “all” the content for your first month of the subscription. This way when people buy in just to sample the game they will at least be able to drive the tracks they are familiar with. I have no problem with the sub but if you are on the fence about buying in you surely aren’t going to spend $80 or so just to trial something.

NombreyApellido: Yep, Interlagos would make a great addition. As will probably make Potrero de Funes, located in Argentina.Felipe, it’s interesting to follow the way you changed your approach to iRacing posts. You could even pass for a nice, down to earth guy now!

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