hoboracer:
I can tell by your response, you didn’t even think about what I said except for the word fail. Restaurants don’t charge a subscription and they don’t rent food. I don’t see how buying food and iracing are similar.

You obviously are of the mistaken opinion, that you have to match every item in every analogy.

It’s what they have in common that matters. I can’t possibly create an analogy you’d understand, because you fundamentally just don’t understand how iRacing’s business model works.

You don’t need to purchase every single car and track to enjoy it.

No analogy. Simple. Hope you get it now.

ermax18: Okay.. here is an analogy. Make that restaurant a country club. You have to pay your membership dues to be able to get in the door. The membership allows you to eat some items on the menu for free. But if you want the Kobe Beef you have to pay extra. :)

we have a winner

Part of the problem is that us simmers (especially rfactor users) are spoilt for choice when it comes to content. Have some random urge to drive around the grand canyon? Chances are you can probably dl that. The idea of only buying tracks that you will use is a pretty foreign concept for most people I would imagine. I dont know about anyone else but my rfactor directory is about 40 GB…….and I only use a maybe a dozen of those mods and tracks on a regular basis. Long story short, you’ll need a change of perpective to understand iracing’s business model.

Lincoln Miner:
No, you fail…, but nice try anyway.Analogies are meant to simplify things, but you didn’t get the simplified version, so this should help.Here’s the Fisher Price version of the analogy.You don’t need to purchase every car and track in iRacing and you don’t need to purchase every meal on a menu if you aren’t going to eat every meal on the menu or purchase every car and track in iRacing.It makes no sense to add up all the prices of all the meals on a menu or add up all the prices of all the tracks and cars from iRacing.This is the kind of analogy they use on IQ tests, so think a little harder about the analogy before you try to rip on someone for an analogy you don’t understand.I shouldn’t need to explain it and probably didn’t need to explain it to 99% of the readers, but there you go…

I can tell by your response, you didn’t even think about what I said except for the word fail. Restaurants don’t charge a subscription and they don’t rent food. I don’t see how buying food and iracing are similar.

msater: Exactly what Lincoln is saying.I’ll get iRacing sometime next year. Just wish they’d get a LMP1 car and a modren F1. That would seal it for me.

Problem with that is those cars are very secretive in there inner workings, so the likely hood of iRacing getting access to scan one is pretty low. that said, we might be able to get a car from 5 or so years ago

btw, it wont cost you that much of a fortune if you don’t buy stuff that you don’t need…

Exactly what Lincoln is saying.

I’ll get iRacing sometime next year. Just wish they’d get a LMP1 car and a modren F1. That would seal it for me.

felipe:
I totally agree with you on that one! But there’s hope I’ll play wait and see as 2010 approaches I hope many guys out there continue supporting iRacing so one day they paid all costs and than iRacing can come down to earth with their prices. Take out all cars and tracks fees with at maximum 60 dollars yearly fee and I’ll join the party!
before you start bashing me with the same saying I can buy any road car out there you name it! Of course don’t include old or new relics

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ak3zVvKmtoE

I guess arguing is more fun than racing for you guys!
Funny to see the significant reduction of negative responses about IRacing in here :D

Anyways, here is one more peace of bad news
60$ a year, without the content… And you have to participate in races, how naughty is that!? :eek:
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/161/promoitpaystorace.jpg

Oh btw, it wont cost you that much of a fortune if you don’t buy stuff that you don’t need…

hoboracer:
That’s a rediculous analogy. So I buy this meal once, can I go back and eat it as many times as I want. FAIL!

No, you fail…, but nice try anyway.

Analogies are meant to simplify things, but you didn’t get the simplified version, so this should help.

Here’s the Fisher Price version of the analogy.

You don’t need to purchase every car and track in iRacing and you don’t need to purchase every meal on a menu if you aren’t going to eat every meal on the menu or purchase every car and track in iRacing. It makes no sense to add up all the prices of all the meals on a menu or add up all the prices of all the tracks and cars from iRacing.

This is the kind of analogy they use on IQ tests, so think a little harder about the analogy before you try to rip on someone for an analogy you don’t understand. I shouldn’t need to explain it and probably didn’t need to explain it to 99% of the readers, but there you go…

Lincoln Miner: You purchase what you need… Doh!Who goes into a restaurant and say’s, “How much would it cost to purchase every meal on this menu?”. Then finds out and say’s. “Come on kids. We can’t eat here it’s too expensive”.

That’s a rediculous analogy. So I buy this meal once, can I go back and eat it as many times as I want. FAIL!

billsmithem: And that is why I’m not on iRacing – it costs a small fortune to acquire all the tracks and cars.

I totally agree with you on that one! But there’s hope I’ll play wait and see as 2010 approaches I hope many guys out there continue supporting iRacing so one day they paid all costs and than iRacing can come down to earth with their prices. Take out all cars and tracks fees with at maximum 60 dollars yearly fee and I’ll join the party!

Lincoln Miner:
I expect you might have spent that much for your wheel and pedals or maybe you’re driving with the keyboard to save money.

before you start bashing me with the same saying I can buy any road car out there you name it! Of course don’t include old or new relics

Really look forward to Mid Ohio as it really is one of North America’s finest tracks from a drivers perspective, though it can be hard to pass on. Hope it gets here before my current sub expire and I quit the service late next summer. After that, I’ll probably only buy a month here or there if I’m preparing to go to a new (to me) track, or one I’ve not been to in a few years.

As Lincoln says if you’re a road racer you definitely don’t need to buy *any* oval tracks, I only own one oval (Milwaukee Mile) besides the two that are free with iracing, and that’s only because I enjoy running the Star Mazda there each season since it’s such a fun race with a lot of roadies taking the week off and oval guys coming in for the one race to try the open wheel car for that week so a lot of good interaction and learning from both camps, but there’s certainly nothing that requires any road racer to buy any oval tracks at all, and the road season schedules even accommodate this by allowing for a couple of drop weeks within the championship if you don’t own a track or real life causes you to take a week off.

BTW I don’t even own all of the road tracks either, Barber is a track that hasn’t been used much in the D/C/B level seasons I race in so far and so I haven’t yet purchased it waiting for the time when I really need it.

I’m really looking forward to all the new tracks this next year especially this and the international ones, I think we have enough new cars for now, but tracks really continue to add to the sim without dividing the active driver population.

billsmithem: And that is why I’m not on iRacing – it costs a small fortune to acquire all the tracks and cars.

You purchase what you need… Doh!

Who goes into a restaurant and say’s, “How much would it cost to purchase every meal on this menu?”. Then finds out and say’s. “Come on kids. We can’t eat here it’s too expensive”. :)

That’s a pretty worn out argument and I’d wager it was why the question was asked by the other poster about the costs… If it’s too expensive for you fine, but the argument that you “need” every piece of content makes sense for about 1% of the iRacers. Maybe 20 in 15,000 iRacers actually race that many cars and tracks. Sure, some have purchased that many, but that doesn’t mean they actually use them more than for a few test laps.

On the other hand, it may surprise you, but for some people $200 isn’t a small fortune. I expect you might have spent that much for your wheel and pedals or maybe you’re driving with the keyboard to save money.

carbonfibre: It’s a shame most of them are ovals though, does anybody know how much would it cost to own the whole collection then?

It’s only a shame if you don’t like oval racing. I’m a road racer, so I understand, but I don’t consider it a shame… ;-)

There are 23 oval tracks, so yeah there are more of those now, but some of the ovals have road tracks too like Indy, Lowes, Homestead etc. Most are $11.95. Some are $14.95 depending on how many configurations they have. If you wanted all 23 oval tracks it would be a little $200 with discounts and including the free ovals, Lowes, South Boston and Lanier. Less if you used credits like the $40 participation credit. Less again if you are a road racer. Again it’s about quality. If you want free get rFactor with a mod track.

Most people don’t need all the oval tracks though, because you wouldn’t run the COT at South Boston. ;-) Most series run 12 tracks.

Oval tracks
Daytona
Bristol
Darlington
South Boston
Phoenix
Richmond
Martinsville
Las Vegas
Chicagoland
Homestead
Lanier
Irwindale
Lowes
Talledega
Texas
Michigan
Atlanta
Milwaukee
New Hampshire
Concord
Stafford
Oxford Plains
USA

Here are the Road Tracks.
Silverstone
Sebring
Road America
Road Atlanta
VIR
Barber
Indianapolis
Watkins Glen
Mosport
Laguna Seca
Infineon
Lime Rock
Mid-Ohio
Oulten
Zandvoort
Phillips Island
Zolder
Brands Hatch