iRacing.com – Greenlit on Steam

A while ago, iRacing asked their subscribers to help push the title through Steam’s Greenlight process and help getting the title on Valve’s platform.

The voting push has been successful as iRacing has now been Greenlit on Steam, putting a major obstacle for the title’s Steam version out of the way.

“Thanks for the support everyone,” iRacing’s Kevin Bobbitt commented. “We still have a bunch of work to do to get up on Steam but we are through to the next step in the process.”

iRacing is the latest simulation to make a push onto Steam that is being used by many sim developers, including Slightly Mad Studios, Simbin & Kunos Simulazioni.

Once iRacing joins the fray, Steam will be the place to be for sim racers as only Reiza Studios will be the sole missing sim industry player to not be featured on Steam.

GTOmegaRacing.com

  • http://www.arraystudios.com/ Dustin Dawes

    You guys are narrow minded. LFS will never be on steam and really just needs a few updates to put iRacing back in its arcade place in the world. Never mind iRacing will never work on steam cause Steam doesn’t allow extortion schemes masquerading as games.

    • Realkman666

      Steam allows anything.

      • Anonymous

        I have not seen any X rated video games yet

      • Realkman666

        :p

      • João Dário

        No one plays those games anymore, if you know what I mean xD

      • Anonymous

        There was some?

      • João Dário

        yes there was one that I am certain of

      • Anonymous

        Ha Ha that was a good one!:)

      • João Dário

        play boy the mansion for ps2, I just don’t know for sure if it was x rated.
        but with a quick google search I’m sure you can find some articles about it and law suits and all that controversy about x rated games

    • StarFoxySxv550

      So iRacing due to be put back in it’s place in 2024?
      Jokes.

    • João Dário

      you’re a bit confused, because that’s exactly what steam does.

      • Anonymous

        Yeah, Train Simulator 2014 has $3000 worth of DLC.
        http://store.steampowered.com/app/24010/

      • Anonymous

        True! and none the less is very ridiculous 20 bucks for 1 locomotive that I saw at a glance. Seems these guys habit is way worse. Still that does not make some of these pay as you go prices okay. At least iRacing prices are consistent as in comparison to SRW

      • Anonymous

        I would love to see an ‘everything included’ subscription. It’s a lot to purchase all at once, though at least no single content item is over $15.

      • João Dário

        I don’t see that happening at all, about the everything included, on iracing the all package its worth $1000. I don’t see iracing let steam do a summer sale of 75%, for example. And from I read, the only thing we will get from steam its the download of the game, everything else stays the same.

      • Anonymous

        Naturally, an ‘everything included’ membership would need to be enough above the $99/year membership to make iRacing money. It might need to be too expensive to attract anyone, who knows?

        I wouldn’t be too skeptical of deep cuts, my current membership is on a 50% off deal, paid for with credits from a 25% off deal. They obviously can afford some significant discounts, especially if they add enough members.

        But you’re right, all Steam does is add them as a download and purchase location. Any changes in pricing would be purely a result of increased membership.

      • João Dário

        and how do you did that ?? before you get your membership or after ?
        However 9€ ($12) month isn’t that much, but what is getting expensive is now, I’m on C class and I’m thinking about doing a full season of Grand AM, and buying the necessary tracks along the way and I don’t have seven tracks, so, depending one the order, but lets say its one after the other 12€ ($15) every week its a bit of a stretch for a game. I’m not complaining in full I’m considering the all picture, although iracing spend a lot of money in development (or not, I don’t really know) they have real sponsors in game.

      • Anonymous

        Who knows the specifics, but it would be nice for the newer members. I’ve thought stuff like ‘season passes’ for individual series might work well. You want to do a full season of GA, and you pay something like $20 for all 12 tracks and both cars for the duration of the season.

        But without knowing details, we’re just flapping our jaws. I do know that the real sponsors don’t make them a whole lot. I think it’s something like $1k/season to get a sponsor decal in the paint room, increasing from there to sponsor series based on prestige (and we see how few series have title sponsors…). I wouldn’t mind more sponsors subsidizing us, maybe increased membership from Steam helps with that (more eyeballs).

      • BackMarker

        The ‘season passes’ idea for individual series is a good idea.

      • Anonymous

        On the face of it, it seems to hold up. Something like $15, more than a car or track, but not so much that nobody would use it. Still cheaper to buy content if you run for a while or a bunch of series, but it would help bring in drivers with limited time. Would it benefit iRacing? No idea.

      • Paul Todd

        Oi leave us Train simmers alone! :p Joking aside that game has cost me to much. I got everything in a sale but still. I wonder if Iracing will have content in the steam sales?

      • Anonymous

        Wouldn’t surprise me, they already do regular offers for credits and memberships. They’ve also done a bunch of new membership deals where you get a car and some tracks plus three months, if I were in charge I’d make sure Steam had a solid deal or two like that.

        Would it be unfair to target Australians with the V8SC, Bathurst, Oran, and Philip Island? ;)

      • Jason Madigan

        We do have quite the V8SC crowd down here … it wouldn’t be unfair at all Bakkster :)

      • Anonymous

        Unfair as in irresistible ;)

      • http://s1.zetaboards.com/SimSkinsByDen/index/ PetrolheadDen

        Usually the item also comes with added scenarios/gameplay.

      • João Dário

        that its just ridiculous !!!

      • StarFoxySxv550

        Is it? I mean, compared to a real train set?
        Compared to a real train set it could be considered value. Obviously both have downsides, re-sale value for the digital and space needed for the physical vesrions. I think they each offer benifits the other can’t too.

      • João Dário

        are you serious ???

      • StarFoxySxv550

        Yes.
        For a decent quality starter set you’re looking at $400-1500.
        The price goes up the more you add.

        Trains $70-400
        http://train-sets.toptenreviews.com/

        A single junction $65-80
        http://www.modeltrainstuff.com/Lionel-O-Fastrack-O-36-Left-Hand-Remote-Switch-p/lio-6-12045.htm

        Nascar expansion pack LOL $129
        http://www.modeltrainstuff.com/Lionel-O-Nascar-Expansion-Train-Set-Kasey-Kane-p/lio-7-11006.htm

      • João Dário
      • Anonymous

        Easily as expensive as a slot car set, which is easily more expensive than simming. Then when you get around to adding scenery, realizing your basement holds nothing but trains… :)

      • StarFoxySxv550

        .. and you can’t even get through the door to get to them. Meanwhile in an alternate universe, the other guy in his basement with $2000 worth of train DLC, OR headset and a Dbox. In both universes the wives have left, so they have that in common.

      • Anonymous
      • Anonymous

        Yeah, still pretty similar I would suppose to the gap you see between iRacing and RC. At least, on a serious level, not an “I bought a Lionel set for $50″.

      • Lucía Domínguez González

        But its still a computer game…i prefer to spend the money buying a real train and drive around in real places.

        Also its a nice way to meet girls. just stop at the station while they are waiting for their public train and offer them a ride…100% success!

      • StarFoxySxv550

        Unless you’re late? :)

      • Anonymous

        Sounds like 2 Live Crew with that one!

      • João Dário

        lol you’re watching to much “how I met your mother”. That’s look exactly like and idea from Barney

      • http://s1.zetaboards.com/SimSkinsByDen/index/ PetrolheadDen

        I live Train Sim, just hate I don’t have the time to actually play it. lol.

    • Hugo Stiglitz

      Arcade? Just because iracing is less realistic, does not make it arcade. It’s much more difficult than LFS, so if anything, some would call LFS arcade (incorrectly)

    • Hurdy Hurdy

      So all those ‘free to play games’ Steam offers, that ultimately get you to make in game micro-transactions to buy content as ‘premium members’ if you really want to progress or buy additional DLC at a cost are not extortion schemes masquerading as games then?

  • Anonymous

    Okay iRacers Kevin Bobbitt mentions SMS along with the other Sim Developers out there. I know I have been in some of the pCARS discussions in the iRacing forums but I am probably pretty much on the live and let live level as to where Sim Racing titles is concerned and I congratulate the iRacing team for getting the support for this platform they desired

    • Anonymous

      The part about other devs is not part of Kevin’s quote.

      • Anonymous

        Ya okay I can see that now. Seems there is a push for Reiza to go that direction and no mention of SRW. I don’t see much involvement with Steam for Reiza or Ignite in the near future but if 2pez were to rework all their material into one updated title and then distributed it on Steam I could see that

  • Robert Gödicke

    “Once iRacing joins the fray, Steam will be the place to be for sim
    racers as only Reiza Studios will be the sole missing sim industry
    player to not be featured on Steam.”

    Image Space Incorporated?

    On a sidenote, I think Steam is a good platform. My Steam directory weighs in at around 242GB at the moment, but to be honest I prefer a standalone launcher like the one for rFactor 2 for my simracing needs. When I play casual games like shooters Steam is awesome, but what if you are coming home late from work and a league race is about to start in 5 minutes?
    You switch on your PC, fire up Steam and start the sim. You join the server, do some installation laps an the race starts. 2 minutes into the game your sim gets minimized and you’re staring at a small screen which proudly tells you that Steam has updated itself and needs a restart.
    I don’t care about such things when playing unimportant stuff, happened to me quite a lot already. But I just don’t understand why you cannot see and pause a Steam update like a regular game update. So, just to be on a save side, I’d prefer a standalone launcher which doesn’t eat up my low bandwidth secretly.

    • T0MMY3688

      if I’m correct, if Steam has an update for itself and needed to restart, the download will only start after it restarts.

      • Robert Gödicke

        Sadly not. At least not for me. Steam downloads the update secretly and notifies me when it’s ready to restart. I only have DSL3000 and can notice a download by seriously increased ping (goes up from 50 to 150) and “super-slow-everything-else”™. Opening tabs in browsers takes ages for example. Plus I permanently monitor my bandwidth usage, and when I see 100% utilization after starting steam and no games are updating, I know that there’s a Steam upate going on in the background. 5 minutes later the “I need a restart” window pops up and the bandwidth usage drops close to zero.

    • Anonymous

      Their plan is to continue launching as is, through the browser, without requiring Steam at all. It would be purely optional.

      Isn’t the minimize for update scenario possible now if you just have steam on auto launch running in the background?

      • Robert Gödicke

        Maybe lost in translation (sorry), but I think I don’t understand your last sentence. If you mean that the minimizing only happens when Steam is automatically starte on Windows startup, I’d have to deny that.
        I don’t use Steam’s start on bootup option. I have to start it manually, yet these secret updates are an issue for me if that’s what you mean.

      • Anonymous

        Then don’t start it up before you start iRacing, problem solved. ;)

        My point is if you start Steam, it will minimize iRacing whether they’re Greenlit or not.

      • Robert Gödicke

        Well most titles which are available on Steam require Steam to run in the background because Steam itself is a copy protection. If that’s not necessary and you can run it by simply starting the application, no harm done. I just don’t like the idea of being forced to use Steam for simracing. The Race07 series comes to my mind. Starting Race07 automatically starts Steam as well.

        Once again: I do like Steam. It runs good, no problems, and I buy tons of titles on it. I just don’t want it to run in the background while running a sim because on a regular basis it does stuff it shouldn’t do while a game is running.

      • Anonymous

        The first thing iRacing said is they plan for Steam to be 100% optional. If you don’t want to use Steam, you’ll continue to use iRacing the same as today.

        The benefit is iRacing already has its own copy protection, distribution system, etc. There is no application that you run to launch iRacing, you go to iRacing.com and launch it from the browser.

      • Robert Gödicke

        Well they do have a working system. What is the point then in pushing iRacing to Steam if the latter is only used for – let’s say – being a download manager? If it’s completely optional, I don’t see the benefits.

      • Matt Orr

        Benefits : About a bajillionty and one people see the steam storefront each day.

        Sim racing is something that people need to realize there are TONS of people interested in it, but they simply don’t know it exists. If the sim developers (any of them, as a whole) can get even 1% of the steam users to try out their product and get them interested in the genre, that is still a huge influx of users. Steam and sources like Youtube are the real advertisement for sim racing, believe it or not. Outside of a storefront listing, it’s up to us to be their marketing campaign, no sim developer (bar maybe SMS) can possibly afford massive advertisements semi long term.

        I see it time and time again – “I have Race 07, what is this game, how does it compare?” when making videos of other sims. Why? Well, I’d guess because they probably got Race 07 (or whatever flavor of that series) in the Steam sale – and that is probably why they don’t know anything about the other sims on the market. They aren’t hardcore in the sense they follow “sim racing news” but they are interested in it.

        If a sim where you are simulating being shot at can be “fun” to the masses and have a huge userbase, there is no reason something that is really fun being simulated can’t be popular. :)

      • Anonymous

        I’ve lost count of the number of times people on iRacing say “I wish I had known iRacing existed years ago”. Steam helps alleviate that issue.

      • Anonymous

        “Steam and sources like Youtube are the real advertisement for sim racing, believe it or not.”

        You would know that ;)

      • BackMarker

        upvote for the “bajillionty and one people on steam” quote! :)

      • Anonymous

        1) Public relations/advertising.
        2) Build weeks the iRacing servers can get bogged down, using Steam servers is probably faster for some (and cheaper for iRacing).
        3) Advertising again, making it known to people who don’t visit sim racing news sites and message boards.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t understand the reasoning for this given they already have a website where everything happens through. Steam gives them more ability to market the game but it adds nothing to the functionality, from what I can see.

    iRacing’s pricing model is still unreasonable and I think people on Steam will see that as well.

    • Marco Hooghuis

      They keyword is publicity.

      • simmagic

        +1

        Steam just announced their active (played at least one game last month) user base grew another 30% last year, that’s now at 65 million active accounts.

        And people still wonder why all (sim) devs/publishers, not being EA/Ubi/Blizzard), want their game on Steam.

    • Anonymous

      The functionality is what they’ve been adding since they joined Greenlight. Stuff like an NTMv5 on the rookie content that makes them stable to drive, automatic DQ for drivers collecting too many incidents in a race, weather conditions, etc.

      I will agree that the key for Steam is being upfront about the costs: making it clear exactly what content is included and how much a subscription is. People will still gripe about the cost, but there will only be a backlash if people feel the costs have been hidden.

  • Diego Colafabio

    Fantastic news :) i’m so happy about this. More members = more money = more fun = more licenses. Well done iRacing.

    • Robert Gödicke

      While I agree with your equations, I don’t think that this means “iRacing on Steam = More members”. I don’t see this connection to be honest.

      • Anonymous

        Why wouldn’t there be a connection between more advertising and more members? People won’t join iRacing if they don’t know it exists, and getting on the Steam front page gets it in front of a LOT of eyeballs.

  • http://s1.zetaboards.com/SimSkinsByDen/index/ PetrolheadDen

    So, I guess one initially would pay Steam? And then resubscribe (renewal) through iRacing? Seems to me to complicate how they do things.

    • James Gore

      There are plenty of free2play games on Steam. Why do you think, then, that you’d have to pay Steam. You must be new.

      • http://s1.zetaboards.com/SimSkinsByDen/index/ PetrolheadDen

        I’m meaning on top of iceRacing’s fee’s.

      • James Gore

        Like I said, why would Steam suddenly charge for an app that’s free to download? My comment still stands.

      • http://s1.zetaboards.com/SimSkinsByDen/index/ PetrolheadDen

        So how does Steam make any money from it?

      • James Gore

        Have you ever actually used Steam? Stop asking stupid questions. I would have forgotten this silly thread had it not been for stupid Gmail.

      • Realkman666

        But what’s the answer?

    • Alan Dallas

      I think you’re confused about how Steam works. Hint: You don’t pay Steam anything.

  • Matt Orr

    What unfolds below this comment is precisely the debate you expected to see given the title. Now that your thoughts are confirmed, you may feel free to browse the other posts on this site in freedom.

    • Anonymous

      Thank you for allowing us, our master!

      :P

      • Matt Orr

        Just trying to save people time from reading the comments that are inevitable and fully expected, nothing new brought to the table. lol

      • Anonymous

        Sure no problem with that, it’s just the last sentence about freedom made me reply like that, it’s all joking though…

      • Anonymous

        After reading myself earlier, I entirely agree.

  • Chris Wright

    While still not to everyone’s taste, though I am lost as to why, Steam has really caught on in recent years. The sheer handiness of having your PC game collection in the cloud and ready to download as you need it is actually a really great feature – no lost keycodes stickered in torn up manuals that you’ve mislaid or the dog has eaten, no damaged DVD’s, software always up to date, super interface. Makes total sense for iRacing to offer it as an optional facility.

    • Slim Shady

      Ya sure I agree

  • Deadlydeal

    uu no thx no iracing again….

  • Anthony Stuart

    Reiza is the only one not on steam? what about rFactor 2?

  • James Gore

    Too bad this will do nothing about the extrotionate pricing.

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