sediol: @Diswanio
Of course it’s true. You pay a monthly/yearly fee and on top of it extra for tracks/cars that you want to drive.Have a little walk, that will appease you…

Yearly fee, you mean like the one you pay to EA for fifa, nascar, madden, nhl, nfs etc, every year?

If you want IRacing to drop the prices, bashing it seems to be a rather stupid move, from your side..

Have a little walk, that will appease you…

sediol: If iRacing’s business modell is working in the long term, that would be fine with me.But there are lot of people who don’t want to pay twice for a game. Strange enough to pay every month for it(!) …and then on top of it again for cars/tracks? No, thank you. Why do they whine that people are mentioning this fact – it’s still true isn’t it?

No its not, You think it is wich is ok!
Why keep and again keep mentioning it..

Don’t like it, 4 Pete sake stop leaving these lame remarks imo!

It is the way it is, deal with it in your own space

Why do they whine that people are mentioning this fact – it’s still true isn’t it?

ermax18: No sim is real. But some are more real then others. But if your a real driver wanting to freshen up on a track layout before doing a real race, why wouldn’t you do it on one of the most realistic sims with the most accurate layouts?

Usually because the most realistic sims cost millions and millions to develop and, most drivers simply aren’t good enough to get into the F1 teams that currently own those sims.

I suspect other drivers would use something cheaper, like iRacing, if at all.

Although don’t read too much into it, when a driver says to autosim magazine they’d use it to learn the track, that’s pretty much saying that they aren’t kidding themselves that it’s actually realistic or anything like racing in a real car in a real track – it’s just that, sadly, that magazine and the sim community at large often reads what it wants to read.

Indeed, they often say something like “it’s x% accurate” showing that even that aspect isn’t right…but, out of all the things, it’s the one that does have some real world value, bearing in mind that the guy has driven a real car for decades and is going to get to the track and drive a real car around the real track anyway. If anything, the games lack of forces and lack of realism makes the sim more useful to a real driver.

Bear in mind that a French le mans driver once said that Grid was extremely accurate – Why? It’s called PR. Any WTCC driver that said anything positive about Race Pro c/w MS’s wheel wasn’t being honest.

David Beckham will tell you his Calvin Klein underpants are great too. Do you believe that your underpants being worn by a real footballer helps when you play Football Manager 2010? This is how silly most of you sound when you talk about real drivers playing a game that you happen to like.

Real drivers eat chocolate cake. But so what? Why should that have a significance?

Getting the track layout accurate is actually quite low hanging fruit once you have laser scanning. So, it isn’t really going to separate iRacing for very long – it’s just that it doesn’t really matter that much for the vast majority of folk who are going to play a computer game.

Folk like Turn 10, SMS and PD are selling millions and millions of copies of their games year after year. If realism is a function of budget, they can afford far more realism. If it’s $100,000 to scan a track as Autosim recently said, it won’t be a huge obstacle for most good game developers to add them if they think it matters.

Whereas clearly that is more than $1 per iRacing subscriber per track – plus profit and royalties on top – and for the vast majority of players, they couldn’t care less, and wouldn’t know if the track is 100% accurate or not. This is the point iRacing probably realise, the sim community is easy to delude – they show that over and over again, after a while you’ll start to compare track layouts with a game, instead of with reality, in the same way some of you compare handling in a new game with something that’s completely wrong but you were convinced was authentic by PR and BS.

If any real driver is using iRacing’s silverstone layout to learn anything, he’s doing it on the sim community’s coin. That is quite ironic.

The truth is, real drivers will get something a lot better than iracing in terms of their sport (like the stuff the F1 teams are developing for themselves) and non real drivers will get something a lot better than iracing in terms of a finished, polished game at a reasonable price.

Where they might win is the niche they have for subscription based league racing – but if Bram had a half a clue (and simbin weren’t so useless at providing suitable server code) RD could provide that.

The weirdest point against iRacing is that it is only for “rich people”. To outsiders, that makes it sound like you need to spend hundreds of dollars each month.

A monthly subscription plus two new content items each month (a car and a track) costs less than fifty bucks. In what world are fifty Dollars a month a sum for rich people? One night out in a club or wheverever will cost you the same if not more, is that just for rich people too?

Cable TV or broadband internet costs around the same each month. I guess everyone who has it must be loaded. “Them rich kids with their DSL lines..”

Seriously, the debate wheter or not someone is willing to spend this much on sim racing is legitimate for sure. But making it sound like it’s impossible for most people to afford is just nuts, everyone who has half a decent job can afford iRacing without letting the family starve to death…

Sommergemüse: But the others are one time payment and for iRacing you have to pay to much! It’s to much money for me for a simple game !

Very subjective and to the point

I spend more on a lot of things than I would owning 100% of iRacing content and don’t even think about them – and I am not rich. But that’s me… I personally don’t like how much a Ferrari costs, but I’m not going to go on every car forum to attach them, either.

iRacing spends more to build tracks than (for example) Papyrus tracks did, and although you do not like the pricing, it is proportionate to iRacing’s costs when building.

A business needs to stay in business to continue doing business.

That runoff was changed earlier this year from the grasscrete seen in the Stuart Mosely SR8 vid (which dates from February 2008), to a much thinner version. In the knowledge that a vouch from someone that has stood not 10m away from that spot two weeks before the iRacing scan won’t be enough to appease some people, here are three photographs:

Early 2009:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/stevipedia/3466978188/

Mid 2009:
http://www.mini7.co.uk/gallery/2009gallery3/images/11.jpg

iRacing scan day (just posted by Kevin Iannarelli)
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/790534/DSC_5435.jpg

I just wanted to make a point of clearing that up once and for all.

felipe: I don’t care if is the real or the one iRacing got to post all I know he’s a nobody outside the red necks world!

Seems just a little prejudice.

You know, it’s a shame when a community can’t just be happy to see a wonderful track brought into another option. You do realize that if you buy one racing title your others will continue to work, right? You can have this track in two (or more) pieces of software, right?

This community has so many options to enjoy itself, but doesn’t seem to want to. lol

What is so great driving 3000 hours in a circle?

And that’s really true no Sim is Real – and will never be

If you don’t recognize the names Dale Earnhardt Jr., Justin Wilson and Marcus Ambrose, then perhaps you aren’t much of a motorsports fan.

Thats are peoples enjoying racing really much and iRacing is only for fun and relaxing for them…

How ignorant are you, if you think this game is real – only why real race drivers playing them?? Lol!