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Did they fix the lolspins yet?

… For new members as usual … pfff …

I know they are trying to attract new customers but they are not doing a lot to draw old players back in when it comes to deals like these.

what for the commited members can’T they juste make a 50% car and track weekend

now now they all ready have you so who cares.. thats there attitude to financial members. have not seen any deals like this for members just new 1s

There’s usually a 3 months for the price of 1 type of deal deal quite often (even for old members). Those are usually the ones I take, since I don’t feel like devoting enough time to justify a yearly plan.

What, you didn’t take advantage of the 50% off for current members just this July? I am on a two year renewal that cost me just $99. They take care of us, and if you didn’t start there on at least a 3-for-1 deal you’re silly.

They used to send “here’s a deal to come back” emails. Heard they haven’t done them recently.

I doing think membership is these issue. I think race participation is the real problem. More cars equals segmented classes. I haven’t been on for a while because I got tired of setting the large majority of races go unofficial.

I think IRacing will be forced to do another major physics update (like the NTM 2.0) in order to keep up with Assetto Corsa, RFactor 2 and Reiza Stuff when they all come out.

IRacing will always have a decent customer base though because of all the marketing, advertising, etc etc crap they do, its like any product, there may be better products out there, but so many people dont know about the other products, so they all buy the one thats plastered all over commercials, ads, music videos, etc and become die hard fans and think its the best.

There are a LOT of those sort of fans in iracing.

I honestly dont mind iracing personally, was playing it alot before, and I will admit i am still a fan, come on guys, every sim has flaws, but I un-subscribed, because after getting more into NKP, GSC, and especially RF2, iracing just never felt the same anymore.

Iracing is a very cheap hobby. It is also an expensive game. So it depends on how you approach the service.

That makes no sense. If its expesnive, then its expensive. Game Stock Car 2012 costs $20 or $25 I think, one time for the entire game. Netkar Pro i think even less (cant remember), RFactor 2 is $85 one time for life for entire game, or $45 for life (just for offline mode) + $12/year after the first year just for online access, Assetto Corsa probably will be between $40 and $90 aswell.

So how is that a cheap hobby when you look at the price of these other peices of software for that very same hobby?

For me its rF2 fans which seem to be the most vocal “blinded” fan boys of them all.

iRacing still has the edge in a number of areas.

It has attracted a large on-line racing community (at the expense of neglecting the far larger off-line racing community), and it remains to be seen if others can offer the same on-line service iRacing do.

They also have the US market largely sewn up. If you want to race NASCAR or indycars online, iRacing is where its at.

For those looking for laser scanned tracks (and I think most of us would prefer them if price wasn’t an issue) they have a lead. AC will apparently feature them but not as many, same goes for pCARs.

Like i said there are plenty of “blinded” fan boys for all sims, and all games in general, i was just pointing out that I tend to notice that iracing has more of these than it seems other sims.

Yes, I agree, every single sim has flaws of course, and therefore many sims have an edge over the other sim in certain very specific areas or situations.

Although laser scanned tracks are the most accurate, I would prefer the best physics model, over a track that has more accurate bumps because they used a laser to scan it. I mean, these are race car driving simulations we are playing, and therefore physics of vehicle dynamics are what we are supposed to be after, not a contest of who can make with most accurate tracks.

Of course laser scanned is preferable over non-laser scanned, and yes they are very awesome :) , but thats all a bonus in the end,

Do you know how much money do you need for a track day?

For example, if you have to trial before a week-end a watkins gleen, the closest experience is on iR.

If you can’t see the differences on quality between cars and tracks on iR, and rF2 and so on, the best thing to do is unsubscrive and save money.

I’m not sure if iRacing has a larger ratio of fanboys, but I think it probably has one of the highest active playerbases. Approximately the same ratio but double the users means double the fanboys ;)

As far as price, the big question is whether people get value from it. If it costs twice as much but gives 4x as much enjoyment, it’s double the value. I think looking just at the price misses the whole picture. The big differentiator is the online service of iRacing compared to the private servers of everything else. With the other big releases soon I think we will see what the majority of the community is most looking for: a comprehensive service like iRacing, or simply the best possible physics and tracks.

FYI, the 5th iteration of the NTM is supposed to be out in two weeks, at least on some of the cars.

I pretty much agree with the iRacing way of thinking, that the correct physics physics only mean so much if the tracks aren’t right too.

And SimRaceWay is free, but that doesn’t in-and-of-itself make it better. Sometimes you get what you pay for.

True. iRacing + one RL race per year w/ the Skip Barber Race Series is a relatively inexpensive ‘motorsport’ hobby.

Nope, it happened again the other week at Suzuka when Perez went too hot overtaking Hamilton: http://videa.hu/videok/sport/gpjapan2012-perez-spin-out-2012-suzuka-ya5zHRHcqmYYmAz5

This is an issue for the higher class cars but the lower class cars have no such problem – I don’t find a problem getting a race in those cars at any time of day.

There’s often special offers for current members – significantly reduced subscription rates and “free” credits.

Regardless of whether people like iRacing’s physics, graphics, sounds, costs etc it has a USP above all other sims – it has good online pickup racing which no other sim can match and personally I don’t see any other sim matching in the forseeable future either.

You haven’t been looking very hard, then… there are people who race iRacing for a yearly fee of under $5 thanks to the current member deals. They did half price memberships 3 months ago, they’ve done 25% off credits on a regular basis, which when compounded with the membership deals can really add up.

thats ok but still to expensive for me to even bother only trying it cause i got for free..

+1 mill

physics over a laser scanned track any time

I’ve always said, if you get better racing for cheaper, sont waste your money on iRacing.