Comments on: GTR Evolution – Onboard Video & More http://www.virtualr.net/gtr-evolution-onboard-video-more/ 100% Sim Racing News Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:22:47 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: F1Racer http://www.virtualr.net/gtr-evolution-onboard-video-more/comment-page-1/#comment-6673 F1Racer Fri, 18 Jul 2008 23:55:07 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=1162#comment-6673 Sam, yeah dont get me wrong I totally agree with you. Although now you have me picturing Mickey Mouse driving a car and the distributor for the sim is Disney :) But that sounds a bit too Goofy. Im not too convinced about your last line though. Scarey as it might sound, Simbin might not even need us simmers any more if it came to the crunch. Im sure as you say they could be part of the pie (not sure how a pie can swallow but I get your meaning :) ) and produce just for the money making console market. I know we wouldnt want to lose them to that and I hope we dont. It probably wont happen. We know where Simbins roots are and I hope they remember that too. But us simmers do need to cling on to any and all company or modder that is prepared to nourish our appetites for what is a small piece of a niche market. From that point of view Im grateful for anything. I dont think GTR Evolution will be a rip-off or anything. Im sure it will be worth buying. I think Im saying if we have to make voices heard, let it be for something worthwhile and not just petty stuff or for criticising for the sake of it (like because you didnt like Simbins last title so now you've disowned them - you know that crowd). And (the amount of time my English teacher told me to never start a sentence with 'and' :roll: ).. if Im going to level some criticism at the sim makers I`d try a more diplomatic aproach as opposed to the 'this sucks, thats crap' approach. Cos I know if I was a sim maker how much I`d take of that before started to wonder if its worth the effort. Im probably not getting across what I mean very well so I hope you can make some sense of it. If you do, tell me what it is, hehe Sam, yeah dont get me wrong I totally agree with you.
Although now you have me picturing Mickey Mouse driving a car and the distributor for the sim is Disney :) But that sounds a bit too Goofy.
Im not too convinced about your last line though. Scarey as it might sound, Simbin might not even need us simmers any more if it came to the crunch.
Im sure as you say they could be part of the pie (not sure how a pie can swallow but I get your meaning :) ) and produce just for the money making console market.

I know we wouldnt want to lose them to that and I hope we dont. It probably wont happen. We know where Simbins roots are and I hope they remember that too.
But us simmers do need to cling on to any and all company or modder that is prepared to nourish our appetites for what is a small piece of a niche market.
From that point of view Im grateful for anything.
I dont think GTR Evolution will be a rip-off or anything. Im sure it will be worth buying.
I think Im saying if we have to make voices heard, let it be for something worthwhile and not just petty stuff or for criticising for the sake of it (like because you didnt like Simbins last title so now you’ve disowned them – you know that crowd).
And (the amount of time my English teacher told me to never start a sentence with ‘and’ :roll: ).. if Im going to level some criticism at the sim makers I`d try a more diplomatic aproach as opposed to the ‘this sucks, thats crap’ approach. Cos I know if I was a sim maker how much I`d take of that before started to wonder if its worth the effort.
Im probably not getting across what I mean very well so I hope you can make some sense of it. If you do, tell me what it is, hehe

]]> By: Sam http://www.virtualr.net/gtr-evolution-onboard-video-more/comment-page-1/#comment-6666 Sam Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:07:11 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=1162#comment-6666 The thing is tho, we're not judging it only on screenies n vids, they look no different from gtr2 (apart from the mickey mouse hands!!!) Its the fact that its an old engine that Simbin to there credit, thrashed the hell out of it to produce GTR2 but it cant be taken any further. It has nothing new to add to Simming, there for I feel they should have put there full time into Lizard and all the loverlyness it will produce. The real worry I have for Simbin is they are a sim developer not an arcade developer, that market is saturated with games that are all taking a little bit of the pie, Simbin will be swallowed by the pie! If simmers dont like what they make they will sink, the next PC game from them will need to be special otherwise... The thing is tho, we’re not judging it only on screenies n vids, they look no different from gtr2 (apart from the mickey mouse hands!!!) Its the fact that its an old engine that Simbin to there credit, thrashed the hell out of it to produce GTR2 but it cant be taken any further. It has nothing new to add to Simming, there for I feel they should have put there full time into Lizard and all the loverlyness it will produce.
The real worry I have for Simbin is they are a sim developer not an arcade developer, that market is saturated with games that are all taking a little bit of the pie, Simbin will be swallowed by the pie!
If simmers dont like what they make they will sink, the next PC game from them will need to be special otherwise…

]]> By: Mastersetter http://www.virtualr.net/gtr-evolution-onboard-video-more/comment-page-1/#comment-6654 Mastersetter Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:37:33 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=1162#comment-6654 You know.. i think it looks fine, im just happy to have something new folks :wink: i Like the updated cockpit and the car sounds great.. but why on earth does he have the motec display off.. and the rpm lights too??!? :neutral: You know.. i think it looks fine, im just happy to have something new folks :wink: i Like the updated cockpit and the car sounds great.. but why on earth does he have the motec display off.. and the rpm lights too??!? :neutral:

]]> By: F1Racer http://www.virtualr.net/gtr-evolution-onboard-video-more/comment-page-1/#comment-6648 F1Racer Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:37:59 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=1162#comment-6648 Sam, thats not quite what I said or meant. But do you think that ranting off in here about picky little things is going to change the attitudes of the commercial sim makers ? Its not. The only thing that might do that is sales. If its crap you don't buy it. But then of course that could mean it will put off the company from making any more because the last one didn't sell. Im not saying we should just praise them and buy it anyway either. Of course people should sound off if they want to. But I think a lot of people have a quick trigger finger so to speak and are very quick to judge and its all so easy to jump in with a negative criticism - especially about something petty. Here we sit judging screenshots and half ass videos. Thats not the game. I`d prefer to reserve my judgement on the demo, unless from the video it clearly looks bad and then I might point something out, but try and put something positive in there too. Of course we all want the best we can get, rFactor with Crysis environment engine and the AI from F.E.A.R. (no arguments here ok, FEAR's AI is the best out there bar none :) ) But with consoles about (which is where the money really is), its gonna take time. Our future seems to lie in rFactor 2. Blimeys! Ferrari Project I discount because its just Ferrari's although Im sure its going to be one helluva racer. Yeah GTR Evo is a bit of a rehash, but hopefully something fresh is around the corner and its not as if theres any other major race series' to cover thats actually has a chance of selling. F1, GTs and WTCC might be the only markets out there. Re-hashing stuff for the PC so that console makers get a first time look is what this is all about I think so lets see what Simbin give us next in line. One thing for sure, the code will be compromised as its bound to be heading for the consoles too. Only rFactor2 can save us now...... Sam, thats not quite what I said or meant.
But do you think that ranting off in here about picky little things is going to change the attitudes of the commercial sim makers ? Its not.
The only thing that might do that is sales. If its crap you don’t buy it.
But then of course that could mean it will put off the company from making any more because the last one didn’t sell.
Im not saying we should just praise them and buy it anyway either.
Of course people should sound off if they want to. But I think a lot of people have a quick trigger finger so to speak and are very quick to judge and its all so easy to jump in with a negative criticism – especially about something petty.
Here we sit judging screenshots and half ass videos. Thats not the game. I`d prefer to reserve my judgement on the demo, unless from the video it clearly looks bad and then I might point something out, but try and put something positive in there too.

Of course we all want the best we can get, rFactor with Crysis environment engine and the AI from F.E.A.R. (no arguments here ok, FEAR’s AI is the best out there bar none :) )

But with consoles about (which is where the money really is), its gonna take time.
Our future seems to lie in rFactor 2.
Blimeys! Ferrari Project I discount because its just Ferrari’s although Im sure its going to be one helluva racer.

Yeah GTR Evo is a bit of a rehash, but hopefully something fresh is around the corner and its not as if theres any other major race series’ to cover thats actually has a chance of selling.
F1, GTs and WTCC might be the only markets out there.
Re-hashing stuff for the PC so that console makers get a first time look is what this is all about I think so lets see what Simbin give us next in line.
One thing for sure, the code will be compromised as its bound to be heading for the consoles too.
Only rFactor2 can save us now……

]]> By: Dude101 http://www.virtualr.net/gtr-evolution-onboard-video-more/comment-page-1/#comment-6638 Dude101 Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:16:00 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=1162#comment-6638 I agree with F1Racer. Everyone is slagging off this game from some poor screenshots and a youtube video. I do wonder why Simbin bother with the community at all They have listened to the updates and suggestions for RACE and Race07 is by far the best feeling ISI based Sim. Sure its not overpowered GT cars by small touring cars but it makes for close racing. This isn't GTR3 and anyone who expected such was/is deluded. This looks like it will be good. People complain and complain about colours but if its based on Race07 it'll be easily editable. Changing track textures won't be such a huge mountain to climb. Look at rFactor when it was released and what it is now. GP4. NR2003. GTR2. This sims [well GP4 isn't really a sim its physics are nonexistant] last because of the community and i expect much the same for this. Whatsmore it'll take what? 2 weeks for all the content to be in rFactor and GTR2 anyway so people can "believe" its more realistic in those sims rather than its original form :!: I agree with F1Racer.
Everyone is slagging off this game from some poor screenshots and a youtube video. I do wonder why Simbin bother with the community at all They have listened to the updates and suggestions for RACE and Race07 is by far the best feeling ISI based Sim. Sure its not overpowered GT cars by small touring cars but it makes for close racing.

This isn’t GTR3 and anyone who expected such was/is deluded. This looks like it will be good. People complain and complain about colours but if its based on Race07 it’ll be easily editable. Changing track textures won’t be such a huge mountain to climb.
Look at rFactor when it was released and what it is now. GP4. NR2003. GTR2. This sims [well GP4 isn't really a sim its physics are nonexistant] last because of the community and i expect much the same for this.

Whatsmore it’ll take what? 2 weeks for all the content to be in rFactor and GTR2 anyway so people can “believe” its more realistic in those sims rather than its original form :!:

]]> By: Sam http://www.virtualr.net/gtr-evolution-onboard-video-more/comment-page-1/#comment-6636 Sam Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:10:30 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=1162#comment-6636 Oh by the way, think I shall pass on this one!!! Oh by the way, think I shall pass on this one!!!

]]> By: Sam http://www.virtualr.net/gtr-evolution-onboard-video-more/comment-page-1/#comment-6635 Sam Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:09:40 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=1162#comment-6635 Yes we all must buy this half arsed filler coz no one will make a sim ever again, & anyone who has an opinion thats not the same as mine is a petty slagger of the god like figure that is a game company, n we shall all blame those slaggers when the game company continue to slog the dead horse instead of making something ground braking. Its not because sims have never sold much n arcade/sim lite yearly updates have made some very rich suits even richer, ITS ALL YOUR FAULT, SIMMERS FOR BEING SO DAMN PICKY!!! And relax! Yes we all must buy this half arsed filler coz no one will make a sim ever again, & anyone who has an opinion thats not the same as mine is a petty slagger of the god like figure that is a game company, n we shall all blame those slaggers when the game company continue to slog the dead horse instead of making something ground braking. Its not because sims have never sold much n arcade/sim lite yearly updates have made some very rich suits even richer, ITS ALL YOUR FAULT, SIMMERS FOR BEING SO DAMN PICKY!!!

And relax!

]]> By: no1 http://www.virtualr.net/gtr-evolution-onboard-video-more/comment-page-1/#comment-6632 no1 Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:05:27 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=1162#comment-6632 :mrgreen: :neutral: :twisted: :arrow: :shock: :smile: :???: :cool: :evil: :grin: :idea: :oops: :razz: :roll: :wink: :cry: :eek: :lol: :mad: :sad: :!: :?: :mrgreen: :neutral: :twisted: :arrow: :shock: :smile: :???: :cool: :evil: :grin: :idea: :oops: :razz: :roll: :wink: :cry: :eek: :lol: :mad: :sad: :!: :?:

]]> By: Raikku http://www.virtualr.net/gtr-evolution-onboard-video-more/comment-page-1/#comment-6625 Raikku Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:12:41 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=1162#comment-6625 Game looks just fine. I don't care about driver animations 'cause i edit .plr straight away to get 'em removed. Game looks just fine. I don’t care about driver animations ’cause i edit .plr straight away to get ‘em removed.

]]> By: F1Racer http://www.virtualr.net/gtr-evolution-onboard-video-more/comment-page-1/#comment-6622 F1Racer Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:43:21 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=1162#comment-6622 Yeah Jigga, and no doubt when Blimey bring their sim out people will be slagging that off too. Its what the sim community does, bite the very hands that feed it. Problem is there are too few hands that are feeding us these days and we still find ways to complain about every little thing. Some say its the physics that matter most and apparently others think the drivers gloves do. Is there any sim we can look at where it hasn't been slagged off and we wonder what still motivates people and companies to continue ? We will be our own downfall with all this pettiness. Watch this space. Get your console money out. Yeah Jigga, and no doubt when Blimey bring their sim out people will be slagging that off too.
Its what the sim community does, bite the very hands that feed it. Problem is there are too few hands that are feeding us these days and we still find ways to complain about every little thing.
Some say its the physics that matter most and apparently others think the drivers gloves do.

Is there any sim we can look at where it hasn’t been slagged off and we wonder what still motivates people and companies to continue ?

We will be our own downfall with all this pettiness. Watch this space. Get your console money out.

]]> By: Jigga http://www.virtualr.net/gtr-evolution-onboard-video-more/comment-page-1/#comment-6617 Jigga Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:29:58 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=1162#comment-6617 It Looks like it is up to Blimey and Ferrari Project and the secret one to save us from the Fun tax that is Iracing. It Looks like it is up to Blimey and Ferrari Project and the secret one to save us from the Fun tax that is Iracing.

]]> By: Uff http://www.virtualr.net/gtr-evolution-onboard-video-more/comment-page-1/#comment-6613 Uff Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:26:32 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=1162#comment-6613 Nodony seems to remember that who did GTR2 are not the actual SimBin...! Graphic is what we got used during these years, no surprises: we'll have to wait for a new engine in order to see something different. Nodony seems to remember that who did GTR2 are not the actual SimBin…!
Graphic is what we got used during these years, no surprises: we’ll have to wait for a new engine in order to see something different.

]]> By: mj92 http://www.virtualr.net/gtr-evolution-onboard-video-more/comment-page-1/#comment-6608 mj92 Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:00:28 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=1162#comment-6608 To be honest i thought the way the driver changes gear looked pretty amazing but pity the gear stick didn't move with the gear he was in. Anyway i thought the saleen had a sequential shift anyway as shown by this.... http://www.7extrememotorsports.com/lemans/cars/saleen-s7r-13.jpg To be honest i thought the way the driver changes gear looked pretty amazing but pity the gear stick didn’t move with the gear he was in. Anyway i thought the saleen had a sequential shift anyway as shown by this…. http://www.7extrememotorsports.com/lemans/cars/saleen-s7r-13.jpg

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.virtualr.net/gtr-evolution-onboard-video-more/comment-page-1/#comment-6606 Anonymous Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:24:25 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=1162#comment-6606 vote obama end the drama sorry couldn't help it lol as for gtr evolution it doesn't look good, but it might be just youtube. vote obama end the drama

sorry couldn’t help it lol

as for gtr evolution it doesn’t look good, but it might be just youtube.

]]> By: stabiz http://www.virtualr.net/gtr-evolution-onboard-video-more/comment-page-1/#comment-6604 stabiz Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:09:37 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=1162#comment-6604 So much draaaaaama. So much draaaaaama.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.virtualr.net/gtr-evolution-onboard-video-more/comment-page-1/#comment-6599 Anonymous Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:26:42 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=1162#comment-6599 We only see a youtube video... I can´t believe that you are talking about the colours. I think it´s better wait to make conclussions. We only see a youtube video… I can´t believe that you are talking about the colours. I think it´s better wait to make conclussions.

]]> By: no1 http://www.virtualr.net/gtr-evolution-onboard-video-more/comment-page-1/#comment-6598 no1 Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:25:55 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=1162#comment-6598 n00b driving and arcadish look ... :roll: n00b driving and arcadish look … :roll:

]]> By: Pepper http://www.virtualr.net/gtr-evolution-onboard-video-more/comment-page-1/#comment-6597 Pepper Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:14:48 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=1162#comment-6597 I agree with MrcL, are simbin turning into EA? Race 06 was a step sideways from GTR2, never bothered with Race07 as it was the same as 06. A new nordschleife will be nice but not for £30+ for the full game. whats with those gloves & I thought they couldn't make the ISI engine look any more cartoonish! Try again Simbin I agree with MrcL, are simbin turning into EA? Race 06 was a step sideways from GTR2, never bothered with Race07 as it was the same as 06. A new nordschleife will be nice but not for £30+ for the full game. whats with those gloves & I thought they couldn’t make the ISI engine look any more cartoonish!

Try again Simbin

]]> By: MrcL http://www.virtualr.net/gtr-evolution-onboard-video-more/comment-page-1/#comment-6596 MrcL Fri, 18 Jul 2008 08:25:37 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=1162#comment-6596 What we see here is: Color over-saturation(cartoonish as above)Bad field of view, and the driver animations and arm modeling have actually downgraded!Where's the GTR2 color filter?... I'm sorry to say this but, my respect for simbin is rapidly dropping...It's been a long way since the F12002 GTR mod etc and unfortunately it doesn't look good. This is just a money making title. Meaning that by securing fans for the rest of the simbin series they've just released something new to snatch some extra bucks...Very unprofessional. I apologize for my harsh criticism, but simbin... you're one vote less, even if it's an insignificant vote... Cheers MrcL What we see here is: Color over-saturation(cartoonish as above)Bad field of view, and the driver animations and arm modeling have actually downgraded!Where’s the GTR2 color filter?… I’m sorry to say this but, my respect for simbin is rapidly dropping…It’s been a long way since the F12002 GTR mod etc and unfortunately it doesn’t look good. This is just a money making title. Meaning that by securing fans for the rest of the simbin series they’ve just released something new to snatch some extra bucks…Very unprofessional. I apologize for my harsh criticism, but simbin… you’re one vote less, even if it’s an insignificant vote…

Cheers
MrcL

]]> By: tbc21 http://www.virtualr.net/gtr-evolution-onboard-video-more/comment-page-1/#comment-6591 tbc21 Fri, 18 Jul 2008 07:47:28 +0000 http://www.virtualr.net/?p=1162#comment-6591 Well I've said this before: in my opinion, the straights look too long :shock: Or am I wrong ?? Well I’ve said this before: in my opinion,
the straights look too long :shock: Or am I wrong ??

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