GTR Evolution Nordschleife - Reality Check
Posted on August 29th, 2008 in
GTR Evolution
Even though the Nürburgring Nordschleife in Simbin’s recently released GTR Evolution simulation is widely considered to be the best virtual recreation of the green hell the sim racing community, some ring-experts are still nitpicking about missing graffitis, not dark enough asphalt and other details.
To further fuel that discussion, Markus Möller has compiled a very interesting comparison video, combining an GTR Evolution on-board lap with footage of Hans Stuck taking the legendary BMW M3 GTR around the Nürbugring. Below is the Youtube version of the video, to check out all details of this interesting comparison you can find a high-resolution download link below the video.
AMAZING!!! Great job SimBin!
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Very Close. Asphalt coloring, graffiti, billboards, and guardrails differed only slightly. The track surface itself looked as if it were exactly the same as the real Nordschleife. Good effort SimBin.
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There’s always a critic. Can’t please everyone. Still a well done track!
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wasnt the track resurfaced this year? that would explain some of the missing graffiti etc
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@Anonymous
Yes it was.
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If it’s been resurfaced I feel sorry for the graffiti
still.. maybe we’ll get a graffiti update from simbin later…
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@montoya: are u sure about the name of the guy who made the comparison ?
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Yes, he sure is!
That “guy” is me…
Why do You ask?
M. Möller aka mcgyvr81
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Great Comparison!
Well done Simbin :!:
only criticism (besides lack of atmosphere) is the missing bumps and some wrong placed curbs (hatzenbach towards hocheichen f.e.)
still its very close to the real one :smile:
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Some Wrong placed Curbs !?? :???:
Each Curbs in Hatzenbach are totally real right setted.
The only Thing whats missing, especially in Hatzenbach, are the typical TreeLine on the right hand..this is the most typical Indicator in Hatzenbach to get a Realistic Illusion..
Only the Texturing and 2D Modelling is Out of Time for 2008.
:mrgreen: !
Now im waiting for PS3 GT5 Game….im pretty sure..Simracing at PCs gonna be dead..Nobody cant stop the KonsoleMarket..there is the Future..and im gonna be a Part of it !
But we all know that, the unmodern Isi-gMotor2 Engine is totally OUT..this Engine is a Relict.
Sad..but the 99,9% realistic 3D Modelling of this NordschleifeLayout “overrulezes” this unmodern GrafikEngine.
I waited since 2001 for “THIS” Nordschleife..i can say for myself that my Simracingway find his “GardenEden”
In that Meanwhile im “lucky” with Simbins HighClass :!: Simulations !
“GTEvo get GT(R)Evolution”..all what i am and looked for is written in my Nickname :!:
Thank you McGyver for this great VideoCompare..im sure so many first overmotivated Simbin-”Hater” are still quit now !
They “Whining” forward..because the cant others…… :!:
“For sure not”
In this Sence
GTEvo
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Only the Lefthand Curbs at Brünnchen are curiosly..never noticed those Kind of Curbs there..
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I can’t understand how someone could possibly moan about asphalt being the wrong tone or anything ridiculous like that. As long as the track layout itself is realistic, who cares about graffiti and such? Obviously if the track was pink with pictures of pokemons all over it, then I’d have a problem, but it looks perfect to me.
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Pokemons !!! i break together !!
Amazing drowsy :mrgreen: :!:
you get the Point..you see it from a View of a real Simracer..the most stupid Comments came not from Simracers..they came from “Modder”.
!)..a Simracer buy it to have Fun and race it !
Modders and Simracers are totally diffrent Personality..a Modder buy Games to rape it(I know someone
“Modders want Pokemons”..Simracers wants racing on the most reallistic Tracks..in most realistics Cars with realistic Sounds !
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@GTEvo
Stop talking shyte, and go back to your bedroom and keep studying, play time hasn’t started, until you’ve finished your School home work, then maybe i will let you play on your PS3 console.
Ive warned you about joining simracing sites, and making your lil arse look stupid.
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“Each Curbs in Hatzenbach are totally real right setted.”
Im talking about the curb exiting hatzenbach to hocheichen on the right side. (0:49 in the vid)
There´s a new curb at Brünnchen,
guess it wasn´t completely done, when simbin visited the track..
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fotopiti/2663684412/
Not complaining though,
it´s the most realistic Nordschleife available :smile:
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ROFL.. An Anonymus want to “say” something !
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oki Georg..but you know what i mean….just the not realistic 2D Grafik missed..the 3D Modelling is wonderfull..as usual for Simbin Titels..
cheers
Holger
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There is always going to be a place for simracing on the PC. Are you on crack? GT5 is far from a Sim.
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Its not far from being a sim, but not that close either.
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Damn GTEvo, go to simBim forum and spam there you fanboy
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Omg i warned GTEvo about posting on simracing sites.
he should be posting on sites like this psxextreme.com
if he continues to post here, i will take away his lil ps3 console, and send him to bed without dinner.
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Outside of a very few misplaced items and a lot of billboards in Evo that were probably there for real at some point, it looks pretty good. It would have been a fairly simple exercise to include some crowds along with their RV’s and tents here and there, too, if this is a race weekend instead of a mid-week track day.
SimBin did a very good job on this, overall. OTOH, all developers would benefit by looking at the VLN tracks that have come out this year and work towards a little more photo-realism even though the graphics engine (and most PC’s) cannot do much better than that.
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oh GTEvo, your slagging down the ISI gMotor2 Engine, let’s just take a step back, if it wasn’t for the so called old ISI gMotor2 Engine, there would NEVER be a simbin, or a GTR game, yes it is old now, yes lizard will be better than the gMotor2 engine, lets see what you’ve got to say, when ISI release’s the engine that will be powering rfactor2.
now get to studying your English, because it is not good
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Nice of you to slum here with the rest of us before you go back to the only true sim.
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BTW, The video of Hans Stuck is from 2004. So obviously billboards, track surface and graffiti will changed in 4 years. When looking at this video I primarily looked at the layout which was incredibly close. Hans Stuck got slowed up in traffic so the video got out of sync. It would be cool if the video was resynced after the traffic to make comparison easier.
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netkar pro the only true sim? hahahahhaa
netkar pro the sim that doesnt work! No AI. Crappy Online. With a Dev that takes your money and runs off and only comes crawling back when he needs more :mrgreen:
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Some trees are not prune to the same dimension…
Lovely simbin…lovely :mrgreen:
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The problem with the Simbin Ring is the poor textures (giving it a neon glow feeling) and the lack of atmosphere. The previous Ring versions all feel like a the Ring, whilst the GTR Evo one feels empty and bland.
Thats not to be overly critical, because clearly the model is brilliant. I just wish teams (Commercial and modding) would spend time on atmosphere too.
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@Jaap
an illegal conversion made by a nK crew member?
LOL
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and only for the “nk crew members” as always …
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Thats pretty impressive in my opinion,cant wait until the UK gets it
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Mcgyvr81, what’s the song you used in the video?
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Jaap, your constant crap about nkpro being “the only true racing sim” on numerous websites is now getting tiring.
Are you a bloody salesman or something ? NKPro was a HUGE let down. The author disappeared, left its users behind and only re-appeared when the money ran out. Pathetic.
Shut up about NKPro. Nobody wants to listen to you and your words will NOT change peoples minds.
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GTEvo:
What’s wrong with the modders? All of us want to improve the game by adding some new contents. And what stupid comments by modders? Is it because we are making new cars and new tracks to the game? Or about we want to game to remain in open source code and can be modded? I also cannot find how to “rape” a game, All of us are having fun with it, by modding it and racing with it. I only know leaving a game in open source code can always improve the sales of the game.
And what means by “real sim racer”? You are just racing in front of your screen, so what’s real? Or are there “fake sim racers”? :mrgreen: Sim racer is sim racer, no real or fake, everyone who play with those simulation games are sim racers :razz:
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correction
*we want the game to remain in open…
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@Thade:
Quite simple, it’s GTR Evo’s menu theme… I simply looped its main section twice, (the original w/ intro is playing 3:22 mins only) so it matches the length of the Video.
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