So is that a fact that consoles are the new home for FPSers? I find that hard to believe with the lack of mouse.

carbonfibre: I think it still manages to remain pretty civilised here at VirtualR, I think all the mudslinging is just one negative side effects of the continuing evolution of internet culture.

Maybe, but i think the mudslinging stepped up a few notches after Rob started covering console titles. Not saying consolians are bad people, but something happened. I guess the two camps annoy each other, pc simmers (rightfully :) )moan about consoles being all about eye candy while console users slam the graphics of pc sims. Welcome to the virtual Gaza Drag Strip.

JAGUAR1977: It’s easy to criticise GT5’s delay’s, they are undoubtedly very annoying.

So annoying it’s become a complete Joke for me… it will be released when ever they feel it will market the most $$$$$$

It’s not like it’s just us ether, developers like Dan Greenwalt set a good example for throwing around the gauntlet. We end up with just the two extreme sides of the argument shouting louder than the rest of us who are impartial, and our voices end up as but a whisper in the wind compared to the next nobody with opinion to add to the controversy.

No, its a semi sim at best, it will be a great game, dont get me wrong, the demo proves that, but it does not rival pc sims in terms of realism. Graphics, yes, content, yes, fun, well thats subjective (I think it is), but physics, no.

Some PC users need to open their eyes and see what is happening in ‘console land’, it’s a far more sophisticated market than many give it credit for.

Not only is the age of the average console user in their mid 30′s, a huge number of former PC gamers have made the move as consoles have become the lead platform for FPS titles.

mink: and here we go again… is it a sim? but ints ona consolejesus just wait for it and jkudge then (but dont judge by its plattform, im so sick of this)

exactly. some people are complete anti console people here. fucking joke some of these lot are. Yes past GT games wasnt that great sim-wise and iddnt have damage, weather etc etc but wake teh fuck up. GT5 is a NEW game. how can idiots judge it and lable it not a sim just because of past games?

Sorry but PD have a great chance of producing a racing sim than codemasters F1 game.

jesus just wait for it and jkudge then (but dont judge by its plattform, im so sick of this)

grc_moto17: unbelievable, some people here always manage to take te word complaining to a higher level…
If you ask me GT5 wil be a SIM(!!!) with great physics, good sounds, and the best graphics in a sim ever.
And i think this because i played the demo wich had the ingredients i just described here

If you think GT is a sim, then you wouldn’t know one if it gored a hole into your skull.

jonneymendoza:
How do you know teh driving model wont be sim-like? have you played GT5? sounds like you have. how does it handle? how effective are the weather physics?

Just look at the track record. “The Real Driving Simulator” never has had a damage model. It has had brain-dead racing AI. It never has had weather effects.

So why the hell am I supposed to believe Polyphony now?

Polyphony always has emphasized graphics and numbers of cars — even though that’s misleading since we get 45 different Imprezas and 31 different Skylines depicted as unique cars — over physics and gameplay.

Why? Because that’s what sells in console land.

jonneymendoza:
How do you know teh driving model wont be sim-like? have you played GT5? sounds like you have. how does it handle? how effective are the weather physics?Anyways abck to the original news. 2010? seriously how is that a fucking release date? a release date involves a day, month and YEAR.fuck

You cant call it a sim if the tracks are inaccurate, which they are.

Paul Kelly:
True. But it won’t be a sim. rFactor 2 will be.GT is a car-collecting game with a solid driving model at heart. That’s always been the mojo of the series. Always will be.

How do you know teh driving model wont be sim-like? have you played GT5? sounds like you have. how does it handle? how effective are the weather physics?

Anyways abck to the original news. 2010? seriously how is that a fucking release date? a release date involves a day, month and YEAR.

fuck

Paul Kelly:
True. But it won’t be a sim. rFactor 2 will be.GT is a car-collecting game with a solid driving model at heart. That’s always been the mojo of the series. Always will be.

But that wasn’t the point, I think. Regardless of personal opinions, the fact is that GT5 unlike rFactor depends solely on the developer (Polyphony) for content.

JAGUAR1977: It’s easy to criticise GT5’s delay’s, they are undoubtedly very annoying.But rFactor 2 may not even be released in 2010, then we have to wait for the mods etc.At lease when GT5’s released it will be a complete, plug and play, package with more content and features than you could ever wish for.

True. But it won’t be a sim. rFactor 2 will be.

GT is a car-collecting game with a solid driving model at heart. That’s always been the mojo of the series. Always will be.

moppenheimer:
btw, i hope you see the irony in your post….
That is all you do for any game that isnt gt5…

:D

But to be honest sorry for anyone with such an emotional attachment to a game.

And what does Halo Reach have to do anything felipe. It’s an FPS GT5 is a sim…. I don’t think PD are looking at the release schedule thinking “what game can we go up against”