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		<title>By: Sodapop</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/forza-3-new-le-mans-video/comment-page-1/#comment-21443</link>
		<dc:creator>Sodapop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Track bumpiness has now been confirmed!

&quot;Any ways, the whole track IS bumpy. The videos don&#039;t do justice that you can feel through the wheel. I don&#039;t know about controller users, but on the wheel, flying down the straight at 185 mph you felt the FFB and rumble telling you the road was NOT a perfectly smooth surface. Even Evo (controller user) commented on how he had to make constant adjustments to keep in a straight line b/c of the slight getting jarred around.&quot; -One of the top Forza 2 drivers invited to race the beta

http://www.forzacentral.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31722&amp;page=11</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Track bumpiness has now been confirmed!</p>
<p>&#8220;Any ways, the whole track IS bumpy. The videos don&#8217;t do justice that you can feel through the wheel. I don&#8217;t know about controller users, but on the wheel, flying down the straight at 185 mph you felt the FFB and rumble telling you the road was NOT a perfectly smooth surface. Even Evo (controller user) commented on how he had to make constant adjustments to keep in a straight line b/c of the slight getting jarred around.&#8221; -One of the top Forza 2 drivers invited to race the beta</p>
<p><a href="http://www.forzacentral.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31722&amp;page=11" rel="nofollow">http://www.forzacentral.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31722&amp;page=11</a></p>
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		<title>By: JAGUAR1977</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/forza-3-new-le-mans-video/comment-page-1/#comment-21403</link>
		<dc:creator>JAGUAR1977</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 02:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-21364&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-21364&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Firestarter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: Pivot point racing, flat gravel trap, flat track surface, cars seems like they dont have any suspension, cars float over jumps etc etc.
That dude that promotes the game is so fucking fake. Typical advertisement dude that have to mention the “product name” a 1000 times in a sentence.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;In the video they expressly talk about the track surface and how bumps etc. have been added.

As for &#039;Pivot point racing&#039;, I assume your talking of the car turning from a central pivot like Grid, in which case that&#039;s clearly not correct.

Don&#039;t take my word for it, SRT have already tried the game and give it the thumbs up as a sim, not the faint praise of being &#039;good for a console game&#039;.</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-21364" rel="nofollow">Firestarter</a></strong>: Pivot point racing, flat gravel trap, flat track surface, cars seems like they dont have any suspension, cars float over jumps etc etc.<br />
That dude that promotes the game is so fucking fake. Typical advertisement dude that have to mention the “product name” a 1000 times in a sentence.
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<p>In the video they expressly talk about the track surface and how bumps etc. have been added.</p>
<p>As for &#8216;Pivot point racing&#8217;, I assume your talking of the car turning from a central pivot like Grid, in which case that&#8217;s clearly not correct.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t take my word for it, SRT have already tried the game and give it the thumbs up as a sim, not the faint praise of being &#8216;good for a console game&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 18:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eight cars at Le Mans. Yeah! Whoopee!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eight cars at Le Mans. Yeah! Whoopee!</p>
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		<title>By: Firestarter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Firestarter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pivot point racing, flat gravel trap, flat track surface, cars seems like they dont have any suspension, cars float over jumps etc etc.

That dude that promotes the game is so fucking fake. Typical advertisement dude that have to mention the &quot;product name&quot; a 1000 times in a sentence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pivot point racing, flat gravel trap, flat track surface, cars seems like they dont have any suspension, cars float over jumps etc etc.</p>
<p>That dude that promotes the game is so fucking fake. Typical advertisement dude that have to mention the &#8220;product name&#8221; a 1000 times in a sentence.</p>
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		<title>By: Sodapop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sodapop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 14:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The super effective gravel traps is not a bug.  They were built that way intentionally to punish track cutters or people who refuse to stay on the track.  

Also I can confirm from Forza 2 that the LMP class is extremely hard to handle.  I used to have to start my own LMP room just to race them because kiddies and newbies online hate this class.  If you are good with them, there is no &quot;drama&quot; to be seen.  If you have all the aids turned on, there&#039;s no &quot;drama&quot; but you will be punished by the game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The super effective gravel traps is not a bug.  They were built that way intentionally to punish track cutters or people who refuse to stay on the track.  </p>
<p>Also I can confirm from Forza 2 that the LMP class is extremely hard to handle.  I used to have to start my own LMP room just to race them because kiddies and newbies online hate this class.  If you are good with them, there is no &#8220;drama&#8221; to be seen.  If you have all the aids turned on, there&#8217;s no &#8220;drama&#8221; but you will be punished by the game.</p>
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		<title>By: yakshemash</title>
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		<dc:creator>yakshemash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 11:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So this is the most advanced and realistic racing simulator ever made? Right...  :roll:</description>
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		<title>By: erale</title>
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		<dc:creator>erale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 06:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do you expect to see in a video that uses ALL the driving aids except autobraking? That the cars handle like Formula One cars from the sixties on ice? I think to point was to show the media the Le Mans track and not how difficult the cars are to drive without any aids.

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-21322&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-21322&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;kevmscotland&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: 

Why reward lack of skill with get out of jail cards?
Gaming really is starting to become for the mainstream.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Which reward should that be? You get rewarded for NOT using driving aids. You should know that if you played previous Forza titles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you expect to see in a video that uses ALL the driving aids except autobraking? That the cars handle like Formula One cars from the sixties on ice? I think to point was to show the media the Le Mans track and not how difficult the cars are to drive without any aids.</p>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-21322" rel="nofollow">kevmscotland</a></strong>: </p>
<p>Why reward lack of skill with get out of jail cards?<br />
Gaming really is starting to become for the mainstream.</p>
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<p>Which reward should that be? You get rewarded for NOT using driving aids. You should know that if you played previous Forza titles.</p>
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		<title>By: carbonfibre</title>
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		<dc:creator>carbonfibre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 04:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t even own an xbox or have ever played Forza 2, but I&#039;m well researched enough to know about the old bugs. 3:45 in  confirms the super effective gravel traps have returned. I hand it to them on the look of the production cars, but for the LMP class I see absolutely no drama at all in the handling, not even a twitch. 

What&#039;s going to make driving those in Forza 3 anything of a challenge when you have unlimited grip and all the aids? 
A very static and boring experience I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t even own an xbox or have ever played Forza 2, but I&#8217;m well researched enough to know about the old bugs. 3:45 in  confirms the super effective gravel traps have returned. I hand it to them on the look of the production cars, but for the LMP class I see absolutely no drama at all in the handling, not even a twitch. </p>
<p>What&#8217;s going to make driving those in Forza 3 anything of a challenge when you have unlimited grip and all the aids?<br />
A very static and boring experience I think.</p>
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		<title>By: UncleChuckle</title>
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		<dc:creator>UncleChuckle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 03:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I said when it was first announced, I actually don&#039;t mind it. Take a track like Le Mans. If you want to practice the Porsche Curves for example, you&#039;ve got to spend 3-5 minutes getting there, get one go, and then have to go again.

With the rewind you can take them over and over again until you feel you&#039;ve mastered them.

It&#039;s a feature you&#039;re not being FORCED to use so I don&#039;t understand all the venom, especially when it has a legit purpose. (I mention the Porsche Curves as in GTL it&#039;s the one corner I&#039;ve never felt I&#039;ve mastered.) 

As for your final comment &quot;Gaming really is starting to become for the mainstream&quot;, have you been in a cave for the last ten years? It has been for a very very long time. 

But once again, you don&#039;t HAVE to use it, and why should people who perhaps can&#039;t spend long playing suffer for their lack of skill? It&#039;s not like they&#039;re going to be able to use the feature online.

I just really don&#039;t get this attitude. It&#039;s a feature for a certain kind of player. You&#039;re not that kind of player. Get over it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I said when it was first announced, I actually don&#8217;t mind it. Take a track like Le Mans. If you want to practice the Porsche Curves for example, you&#8217;ve got to spend 3-5 minutes getting there, get one go, and then have to go again.</p>
<p>With the rewind you can take them over and over again until you feel you&#8217;ve mastered them.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a feature you&#8217;re not being FORCED to use so I don&#8217;t understand all the venom, especially when it has a legit purpose. (I mention the Porsche Curves as in GTL it&#8217;s the one corner I&#8217;ve never felt I&#8217;ve mastered.) </p>
<p>As for your final comment &#8220;Gaming really is starting to become for the mainstream&#8221;, have you been in a cave for the last ten years? It has been for a very very long time. </p>
<p>But once again, you don&#8217;t HAVE to use it, and why should people who perhaps can&#8217;t spend long playing suffer for their lack of skill? It&#8217;s not like they&#8217;re going to be able to use the feature online.</p>
<p>I just really don&#8217;t get this attitude. It&#8217;s a feature for a certain kind of player. You&#8217;re not that kind of player. Get over it.</p>
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		<title>By: kevmscotland</title>
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		<dc:creator>kevmscotland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 02:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loved Forza 1 + 2.

Looking forward to the 3rd, but that rewind feature really annoys me.
I loved the fact the previous games were Sims, and altho this is a sim, and yes you can choose not to use the rewind feature, it just annoys me that GRID has set the standard for this crappy feature and I expect most racing games to include it now.

Why reward lack of skill with get out of jail cards?
Gaming really is starting to become for the mainstream.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loved Forza 1 + 2.</p>
<p>Looking forward to the 3rd, but that rewind feature really annoys me.<br />
I loved the fact the previous games were Sims, and altho this is a sim, and yes you can choose not to use the rewind feature, it just annoys me that GRID has set the standard for this crappy feature and I expect most racing games to include it now.</p>
<p>Why reward lack of skill with get out of jail cards?<br />
Gaming really is starting to become for the mainstream.</p>
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