Fanatec CSR Elite Wheel – Review

Back in 2008, Fanatec entered the high end steering wheel market, introducing the Porsche 911 Turbo wheel.

Since then, the company has introduced various Porsche-branded wheels and the Forza Motorsport CSR wheel, all based on the same base set of mechanics.

Now, a new generation of Fanatec products is here as the CSR Elite wheel uses a newly-designed base. Can the new wheel further improve Fanatec’s reputation for excellent engineering? Read the review to find out!

When Fanatec first entered the market for high quality steering wheels, few people had heard of the company before. This quickly changed as Fanatec’s line of Porsche wheel almost instantly captured a quickly-growing share of the market, not just because of the shiny Porsche badge that has always captured the imagination of automobile enthusiasts.

Along with the high-profile license, Fanatec also introduced several innovative features to mass market steering wheels as the Porsche wheels were the first to feature a built-in display & tuning features, usage of high-quality materials such as Alcantara and cross compatibility to both the Xbox 360 and the Playstation 3.

These innovations have created quite a lot of movement on the steering wheel market. While Logitech was rather slow to respond with the mildly-updated G27, Thrustmaster has taken up the challenge from Fanatec with their T500 RS.

With the gauntlet being laid down, it’s time for Fanatec to respond and the company does so by taking the proven features mentioned above to an all-new technical base that is the result of two years of engineering. Needless to say, the effort has been more than worth it…

Features

The CSR Elite centers around a brand new base that has been engineered by Fanatec for almost two years. The base uses Fanatec’s DirectSensor technology that has the sensor mounted directly on the steering axis. The new placement rules out issues & interference that regular wheels with motor-mounted sensors can face.

The wheel is powered by 120W dual Force Feedback motors that are supported by two additional motors in the wheel rim. The wheel uses a newly-designed belt drive mechanism made completely of metal. The belt drive is made of high quality materials such as durable ball bearings and belts made in Germany.

All the fancy new technology is wrapped in a case completely made of metal that is equipped with large silent fans that provide cooling.

The new technology is paired up with proven Fanatec features such as the built-in quick tuning display and the unrivaled cross-compatibility that enables the CSR Elite to work on the PC as well as the Playstation 3 and Xbox 360.

The wheel rim is prove to the console connection, sporting both a Forza Motorsport 4 logo and console-labelled buttons. Alongside the ten buttons, the wheel also offers a D-pad for navigation in menus and settings.

The CSR Elite comes with durable aluminum-made shifting levers in the back, the wheel also supports additional shifters that are sold separately.

Build Quality

While the built quality of past Fanatec wheels was never anything to complain about thanks to expensive materials like Alcantara, the CSR Elite is in a whole new ballpark when it comes to the used materials.

As shown off by Doug Meyer of SimRacingReview, the pleasurable experience starts with the unboxing of the wheel. Even though it sounds somewhat silly, the CSR Elite surely is the most impressively-packaged wheel I´ve ever encountered.

The fancy packaging gets buyers excited and the CSR does not disappoint as first contact with the wheel is an impressive affair. Fanatec promised a fully-metal made new base and they’ve very much kept their promise as the only plastic parts on the new base seem to be the clear top window that allows players to watch the neatly-engineered internals at work as well as the buttons and the plastic back cover.

The base is completely made of metal, featuring a metal front plate cooling openings on both sides. Even though the base is a lot more compact than the T500 RS’, it weighs roughly the same, speaking volumes about the materials used.

Even though the wheel rim design & button layout is closely based on the CSR wheel, Fanatec has upped their game in these parts as well. Not only does the CSR Elite rim have a carbon-fibre face plate instead of the metal one used on the CSR, it also comes with a fully rubberized rim to go with the Alcantara handgrips.

The rubber rim does not just look and feel better than the plastic used on the CSR rim, it also irons out one of the man issues of the CSR wheel rim. Thanks to the rubber coating, the seam on top of the two-part rim is much less noticeable than on the CSR, fixing one of my pet peeves with the new rim design.

As on the CSR, the buttons are nothing to complain about and the new all-aluminum pedal shifting levers are super solid and nothing like the wobbly affair on Fanatec’s first wheels.

All in all, the CSR Elite sets a new standard in terms of buidt quality as the wheel uses the least amount of plastic I`ve ever encountered on a steering wheel, going for professional and durable materials across the board instead.

Installation

If this isn’t the first VirtualR review of a Fanatec product you`re reading, you know that one of my main issues with their wheels has always been the table clamp.

The CSR Elite fixes the issue with a simple solution – There is no table clamp to begin with! Since the wheel is aimed at more professional users, the wheel has been designed with hard mounting to a wheel stand or racing rig in mind.

Those who want to fix the CSR Elite to a table can be accommodated as well as Fanatec offers the optional Club Sport Table Clamp the wheel can be mounted to.

Selling for 49 Euros/Dollars, the Table Clamp is also fully made of metal and hosts both the wheel and additional shifters. The clamp is adjustable and can be mounted to tables that are up to 7 centimeters thick.

Whether it’s mounted to a rig or the Table Clamp, the days of sliding Fanatec wheels are definitely over, fixing one of the main issues with their wheels in the past.

While the CSR Elite works wireless in Xbox 360 mode, Playstation 3 and PC users have to rely on a hardwired connection. Connectivity doesn’t end with the USB cable though as the CSR Elite also comes with ports to connect a Fanatec pedal set (not included) as well as a headset for console usage.

Fanatec’s documentation is improving with every wheel they release, the CSR Elite comes with a manual that really leaves nothing to be desired. The manual covers all topics of installation, tuning as well as setting different modes that send the wheel to PC or console compatibility.

While console players can go racing right away, PC users have to bother with installing drivers as usual. This isn’t a real bother anymore as Fanatec has very much streamlined their drivers, making the installation of the new wheel a pain-free affair.

Driving & Force Feedback

Now comes the tricky part. While the improvements in terms of build quality and design are rather easy to explain in text, the sensation of using the CSR Elite and how much it has improved upon the Porsche wheels is hard to pack into words.

The CSR Elite is pretty much everything an ideal wheel should be. It’s smooth, strong, precise, fast & silent, setting new benchmarks across the bar.

The dual Force Feedback motors provide a stunningly detailed & strong Force Feedback. Helped by the two additional motors in the rim, the FFB transports every sensation of driving straight to the driver. From locking up tires to shifting, bumps in the road and even the most subtle slide, the CSR Elite’s FFB transmits all of these aspects in a strong and precise fashion.

The CSR Elite’s main competitor is undoubtedly Thrustmaster’s T500 RS and even though the wheels have slightly different strong suits, it’s pretty clear who’s winning this contents.

Speaking in racing terms, the T500 RS’ FFB is a bit like a 800hp stock car. It’s extremely strong and feels almost brutal when completely dialed up. The CSR Elite on the other hand is more like a nimble little prototype, the FFB doesn’t feel as strong and raw but a bit more sophisticated, subtle and precise instead.

That being said, it’s not like the FFB is weak by any means. Sim racers who love to get their biceps workout done while driving will be pleased with the CSR Elite as well. On top of that, the FFB delvers a feeling of being connected to the car that I haven’t experienced with any other wheel before.

The CSR Elite is also very responsive, turning quick and smooth and allowing for quick corrections. The belt drive is also extremely silent, instead of the metallic grinding sound other wheels make while turning, the CSR Elite only comes with a barely noticeable high-pitched rubbing sound.

The only quirk of the belt drive I had to get used to is a squealing sound the belt makes when making quick steering movements against the forces (for example when counter-steering to prevent a spin). The sound is completely normal but a bit scary when you first encounter it.

Needless to say that the durable feel in terms of materials also comes into play when driving. I´ve been using the wheel for several weeks and it simply feels incredibly solid across the board. There’s little to none mechanical play or deadzone involved and the cooling concept of the wheel seems to be very efficient as well as I can hardly recall to have heard the fans in effect at all.

For those who don’t like the stock settings the wheel comes with can use Fanatec’s quick tuning settings that are being set using the built-in display. The tuning features include settings such as deadzone, dampers, force feedback & sensitivity that can all be set independently from the software – A feature that comes extremely handy with console games that usually offer little tweakable controller settings.

Speaking of consoles, the CSR Elite is undoubtedly the most professional piece of kit that console racers ever had access to. The downside of this is that the wheel very much shows the limits of Force Feedback effects on consoles as the CSR Elite can’t fully shine until it’s used with a powerful PC simulation.

Conclusion

Without wanting to sound like I`m the person who writes Fanatec’s PR material, it’s safe to say that the CSR Elite is the new benchmark for upper-market steering wheels.

Wildly expensive enthusiast kit like FREX or ECCI aside, the CSR Elite is the best wheel money will buy you right now. All the stereotypes you have ever heard about German engineering come true with this one as the wheel looks and feels pretty much perfect in every single aspect.

From the packaging to the used materials to the technical innovation packed in the base, the CSR Elite is an enjoyable and impressive product through and through.

Of course, all this technology and quality comes with a price attached to it, as the CSR Elite  is the most expensive steering wheel in the mass market sector. The return is worth it though as the CSR Elite is pretty much a no-compromise affair that leaves nothing to be desired.

Perhaps the most stunning aspect about the CSR Elite is that it isn’t even planned to be Fanatec’s flagship product for long. The same base will soon be paired up with several replaceable high-tech wheel rims as Fanatec isn’t quite done with extending their technology advantage just yet.

The CSR Elite sells for 539 Euros/Dollars excluding a pedal set, buyers will have to be patient though as right now Fanatec does not have any wheels in stock, the next shipment is expected in mid March.

The wheel is exclusively available on the Fanatec website.

Pros:

  • Professional-grade wheel made of very durable materials
  • New base packed with new technology
  • Highly detailed and strong Force Feedback, smooth & silent driving experience
  • Quick tuning options allow tweaking independent from game software
  • Unrivaled cross compatibility to all three major platforms

Cons:

  • Plenty of features result in high retail price

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Roger-Owen/824265471 Roger Owen

    Was/is it possible to reduce the deadzone in FFB to zero on your example of this wheel?

  • Anonymous

    Looks great, would like :)

    Oh, the only way to get it in Australia is through the designated retailer at a huge mark up, and even then they only offer 1 model… :(

    Maybe one day…

  • Skytrill .

    Stiff price for a wheel that doesn’t come with any pedals.. but Im sure it’s worth every buck.

    Dear Santa.. no the hell with Santa I want one NOW!

  • Anonymous

    You can change almost every setting there is on the wheels themselves, as well as the the settings that are offered in-game.
    This applies to this model, as well as the CSR and the Porsche wheels with an led readout.
    They also remember up to 5 presets if you need them for various games.

  • Anonymous

    This model wheel is back in stock as of 2/5/2012 on the Fanatec website.

    So you don’t have to wait till March for one.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/CQAOFBAD47W3ADFGIMZDPGHRFM Chris

    This is not really a good test, just one more of this fanboy blahblah. Even i didnt test it there are more flaws then just the “little high price” you mentioned by the way.

    1. For europeans (also for germans) it costs 1,3x as much as for americans, quite fair?
    2. Did you really sum up what you really pay for the hole thing if you want the complete collection like a e.g. G27 have for ~170€ with some more technical features? So here we go: 540€ wheel, 60€ shifter, 200€ clubsport padels, 50€ table clamp + (idontknow) 12€ delivery costs. 862€ or 1135,42$ (UPS, sorry, for us/can there are much better prices)
    3. Active cooling suck. Sure, not your 3 weeks of testing. There will not be a problem in 1 year maybe but the dust WILL make a problem someday that is blown in the body.
    4. By the way, did you compare the energie the wheel takes? :P 2 motors + active cooling hmmm….
    5. For 530€ you are happy with a rubber wheel? YEA there is some alcantare and please, dont come now with “you dont need more” blah. Nothing more to say about it.

    I think one or two problems must be mentioned, the rest is not so important but for a good test everyting should be pointed out.

    Anyway this is truely the best wheel on the market and i would love to have it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Roger-Owen/824265471 Roger Owen

    Thanks for the reply.

    A friend of mine testing the wheel could not get FFB all the way to the centre of the wheels action, thus ruining the feel of the otherwise excellent wheel. 

    If this is fixed in more recent wheels then it is certainly on my shopping list for later in the year. The sim in question was iRacing with which I have no problem with my T500RS. 

    We are looking for that bit of road feel while heading down bumpier straights aswell, rather than just excellent FFB only when the wheel is turned a bit. An assurance on this is going to sell many many wheels to the more ‘hardcore’ community as word spreads. The wheel looks ideal!

  • http://www.facebook.com/gulyopapa Gulyás Tamás

    Ridiculously overpriced …. buy it !!!
    What about garantee ??? In Germany, no thanks …

  • http://www.myspace.com/ernie_of_metal Ernie

    Never had any problems with the table clamp on my GT3RS. To bad the clamp is now optional for another 50 bucks which increases the overall price.

    Nevertheless i’m looking forward to the new ClubSport Wheels with the quick release for exchangable wheel rims (especially the BMW M3 GT2 rim).

  • Radek Żukowski

    Ad.1. AFAIK in US there is no VAT tax, hence lower price.
    Ad.2. Sure, Skoda Octavia Estate has bigger boot, can carry 5 people and costs 20000 euro, Porsche 911 is 100000 euro and offers less, it must be worse…
    Ad.3. So what is your proposition? Don’t cool it at all? If it needs cooling, then it need cooling, period! You won’t find any better (and cheap) solution for a wheel than a FAN. But dust is a fair point, maybe they should mount some detachable air filters.
    Ad.4. Pfff, that’s a non issue.

  • General Rush Hour

    Never understood why they run with high forcefeedback settings…

    Most racing cars, GT and up have power steering so they are quite easy to turn with. 
    Even an F1 car has power steering. 

    For my T500 i have it set to 4.2 in game, 0 damping for most cars.
      

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/CQAOFBAD47W3ADFGIMZDPGHRFM Chris

    pt2: hmm but with this wheel you are not faster then a 30€ wheel. :D I just calc this together to really see how much this wheel really cost. Not only the “oh it costs a bit more, 1 or 2 cents” like the test suggest.
    pt4: A test should contain everything…

  • Radek Żukowski

    Ad Pt2: Believe me, you will be faster on this wheel than on 30e wheel.
    Ad Pt4: Yeah right. I’ve never ever seen a wheel review that mentions power consumption.

  • http://twitter.com/StarFoXySxv550 StarFoXySxv550

    While it may be somewhat unnecessary to some people and for some people, I still feel fanatec should have went the 1080° route with this wheel and the CSW.

    Just nice to have the option there, should you wish to use it. 

  • http://twitter.com/StarFoXySxv550 StarFoXySxv550

    I never had any problems with my GT2 clamp either. Although if you try to clamp it to anything over 1/2″ – 3/4″ thick you see where the problems start to come from.

    With a heavy base such as the Elite and CSW (and with the wheel rim itself looking to be much further away from the base than the Porsche wheels adding more vertical leverage) I bet that style of clamp would be next to useless.

  • http://twitter.com/StarFoXySxv550 StarFoXySxv550

     2 year guarantee in Germany.

    How is it any different to a guarantee in say the U.S? Except the shipping costs.

  • http://twitter.com/mark8734 Mark

    Sounds awesone, only thing preventing me from purchasing one is the price – there’s no way I can justify spending that much on a wheel. :-(

  • Radek Żukowski

    Why would you need 1080? They could do 3000 degree but whats the point?

  • Anonymous

    What’s the degree of rotation on this wheel? And also is it possible to have this wheel in level with the table you’ve put it on? (not at an angle that almost all wheels are, because by the looks of it it is possible?)

    Good review although I would like to have seen more Spec’s and more subject of the technical type.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=24413882 Stuart Becktell

    Having to pay more for a table clamp is also quite annoying. 

  • Radek Żukowski

    900 degree.

  • http://twitter.com/Dubravko_ Dubravko

    Doug didn’t say anything about rim, how bad it is made. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/gulyopapa Gulyás Tamás

    I like to buy stuff in Hungary and I like to be guarantee in the same place … like Logitech !!!
    Forget it Fanatec …
    Reportedly, they have VERY BAD guarantee service !!!!
    BE CAREFULL !!!
    And the delivery time is VEEEEEEEEERY LONG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I read lot of articles about that …

  • Vedran Sinclair

    All the best to Fanatec, but their build quality is appalling, after 2 faulty GT2 wheels, and one CSR (non elite) they should take hard look at themselves and stop tarnishing “German engineering” statement as it is loads of lies. Not to mention how awkward this wheel rim feels while driving, buttons are out of reach. Yes, i am am pissed off with carry on i had with Fanatec, i wasted time and money calling Germany to get a refund, and still did not get all of it back even i have not done anything at all wrong.

  • http://www.facebook.com/gulyopapa Gulyás Tamás

    I have heard 3-4-5-6 month waiting times and very disappointed customers for GT2 …

  • http://www.facebook.com/steve30x Steve Farrell

    Youve heard wrong. You have been looking in the wrong places.

  • Jan Jaroš

     Well, stop with this (you know) fuuu :o)
    It was true maybe 1 year ago.
    Today you will get response in MAX 2 days.
    Gods are shipped the same day your payment is recognized (if it’s avilable)
    Now my little story:
    Someone broke a little part on CSR H-Shifter during shipment. Just 2 mm of plastic.
    I’ve sent an email to support and they sent new shifter set next day without any words. It was here in 2 days. And it was a very minor issue. Then I just sent old set back with cheapest method. I heard they also give you back the cost of the shipment but I personally do not care about the cost. Their support is very nice theese days and wery helpfull.

  • Titanium Informatique

    Is it possible to change the horrible Xbox buttons by a real push-buttons or switch !?

  • Anonymous

    I think you`re confusing the CSR with the CSR Elite.

    The Elite is currently out of stock, this is what the shop says:

    Pre-Order only! Next shipment arrives mid of March 2012.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, I was one of people waiting 3 months for GT2, when it was promised to be 2 moths, but it works without any issues over 1 year now, same as Clubsport pedals.

  • Anonymous

    I`ve heard these complaints a few times but personally I just can’t relate. I´ve reviewed every single wheel they released since the first Turbo and I never had a wheel break on me.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think any of your points are legitimate criticism.

    1. The issue of VAT is certainly not in Fanatec’s hands so I fail to see how they´re to blame.

    2. I pointed out that it is quite expensive but quality comes with a price tag attached. If you look at the materials used and the quality experience the wheel delivers then the costs are perfectly justified. Whether it’s “too much” is a personal decision, I can only look at it from a “do you get your money’s worth” perspective. And yes, this wheel is in a whole different league than a G27, it doesn’t even compare..

    3. I can’t predict the future and I can’t wait six months to do a review either. Will there be long time problems with the cooling? Who knows? It’s impossible for me to tell so criticizing that would be unfair. Out of the box, the cooling works excellent as it’s extremely silent, that’s all I can say about it.

    4. No I didn’t but I highly doubt that a bit higher power consumption is much of a sim racer’s concern when the wheel’s hooked up to a 700W gaming PC, a large screen TV etc. You get my point, it’s a drop in the bucket…

    5. The rubber feels every bit as nice as the hard plastic on the T500 RS does – Which is the wheel’s main competitor. Would a full-Alcantara rim have been nice? Yes for sure, you can’t have everything..

  • Francesco Kasta

    Great review! I am glad my expectations were fully confirmed! I am eagerly waiting for the version with detachable wheel rims…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Karsten-Da-Silva-Sørensen/100000834833894 Karsten Da Silva Sørensen

    Mine CSR Elite pedals took 22H  leaving the factory to Denamark in Scandinavia, so i wouldn’t call it long delivery.   

  • rui silva

     actually i think Radek is right about the power thing, never seen a review about a wheel that actually mentions power consumption …

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/CQAOFBAD47W3ADFGIMZDPGHRFM Chris

    Hmm aha.. sure…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/CQAOFBAD47W3ADFGIMZDPGHRFM Chris

    And? Sorry but all of these simracing – hardware- tests are only from fanboy amateurs posted on youtube and so on. Most of the information i got from all these tests i also get from spec sheet and 5 pictures.

  • Vedran Sinclair

    they probably hand pick samples they send for testing

  • Radek Żukowski

    Hmm aha.. sure…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jason-Cooper/100003179691438 Jason Cooper

    bring out the clubsport wheel for the real sim racers,  not console wheels

  • http://www.facebook.com/Fanatec Thomas Jackermeier

    Having to pay more for the wheel WITH a table clamp would be even more annoying for all the cockpit and wheel stand owners. I prefer to give the people options so everybody can decide what he really needs.

  • Anonymous

    I bought a real life BMW 320i in great nick for less than that.   Sheesh.

  • Anonymous

    Bit difficult to hand pick samples that you know won’t break because then you have to know the ones that will and then that assumes that they aren’t all built equal.    Still making sense to you  ? :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/laurent.cortier Laurent Cortier

    Thanks for the great review, Rob. I bit the bullet because of this ;)
    I was very happy with my GT2, but have been waiting for a wheel of this caliber in this price range since I first saw the Frex 2 years ago, at four times the price ! (more than 2000€+shipping from Japan)
    The ClubSport Wheel would be nice, but it’ll be quite more expensive with 2 rims, so I guess this is the “cheapest” option ;)
    Moreover, I heard Frex wheels needed a lot of maintenance, being a very precise and delicate mechanic, which the CSR Elite certainly doesn’t seem to be !
    Another great point is the new paddles mechanism, which has always been the weakest point of the PW line of wheels IMHO (I own both PWTS & GT2, and while GT2 had a better feeling, the paddles were also weaker).

    Kudos to Thomas and the Fanatec team !
    PS: Where are the CS Shifter and e-brake ? ;)

  • Anonymous

    have you got to be loaded to be a “real” simracer?

  • Anonymous

    i can tell you guys that i bought a fanatec gt3 clubsport wheel to play rf2 with, to replace my g25. I returned it back a week later and got a refund. 

    The wheel wasn’t as loose as the g25 to turn, which meant you couldnt react or counter steer quickly enough. even in the loosest setting with the fanatec – drift mode on 5 – it wasn’t as loose as a g25. and the problem with that is when you had to apply opposite lock – the feedback simply wasn’t strong enough in pulling the wheel back.the T500RS seems to have monstrous force feedback, which is exactly what you want. having real life experience i can tell you that when the back end comes out in a race car, the steering wheel almost tries to correct itself, such is the force. you need the FFB to be sharp, responsive, very strong, very noticeable.  

    so guys, dont waste your money on this, you’ll see Zero improvement in laptime – stick with a g25/g27, or if you can stretch, the T500RS seems to be the ideal wheel due to its even stronger ffb. 

  • Anonymous

    yup, you are spot on, i’ve posted above about this. 
    i returned the fanatec back and got a refund because it wasn’t loose enough like a g25 is to turn freely. t500 seems to be the ideal wheel from what i’ve seen and how strong its ffb is, which is what you want when counter steering – in a real car the car wants to go straight and the steering wheel will pull by itself the other way. 
    journalists who have driven f1 cars also remark how light the steering is – if you do a youtube search for ‘chris harris f1 car’ for example. 

  • Richard Hessels

    The GT3 wheel you describes only has one motor.

    This one has 2, should be double as strong than.

  • Richard Hessels

    You cannot compare the powersteering of your car to that of a a race car.

    Forces in a race car are still much higher than your powersteered daily car.The more power steering the less feeling you get back.Power assisted would be a better phrase.

  • Anonymous

    The CSR Elite is a completely different wheel, with a completely different design. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

  • http://twitter.com/StarFoXySxv550 StarFoXySxv550

    has there ever been a car with anything even close to 3000° lock? Yes that would be pointless.

  • http://www.facebook.com/laurent.cortier Laurent Cortier

    Ever heard of saving your money to buy what you like ? If it’s a real passion, money is not an obstacle but a mean to an end. I don’t go out, I don’t go to the restaurant, I don’t take holidays, I don’t own a car and I wear old clothes, but my sim rig would make your BMW cry for its mommy. Just a matter of choice, mate.
    Managing with what you got will take you further than complaining, every time.

  • http://www.facebook.com/laurent.cortier Laurent Cortier

    As usual ;)

    Though he used a lot of words for that. That’s quite a performance, tbh. :D

  • Anonymous

    not sure where you get all that righteousness from LC.

    I was simply making the point that you don’t need to be loaded to be a “real” simracer.   for many this sort of price for a wheel puts it beyond their scope – and to be told they’re not “real” sim racers because of it is…..well, you know.

  • http://www.facebook.com/laurent.cortier Laurent Cortier

    I just call that common sense, mate, not trying to bash you, but you were complaining about the price above so I was trying to bring a little perspective on the table, that’s all.

    But I get your point, of course you’re right, it’s not the money that makes the racer.
    I, for one, don’t race for the performance, but pure pleasure and quality of immersion. As it’s my number one hobby, if a peripheral like this can give me more pleasure, then I spare money for it.

    I’m happy to pay that price as it’s worth it in quality. It IS expensive, yes, very expensive for some people, but I believe every euro spent in that wheel is worth it. But that doesn’t mean everyone “needs” that kind of quality, it depends on what YOU are ready to invest, and that’s a personnal choice. You never know how one acquires his money, so it’s tricky to judge…

    What I mean is this wheel is expensive compared to toy wheels like the Logitechs, but it’s not expensive for what it is.

  • Anonymous

    fine, delude yourself into thinking this wheel will improve your laptimes.
    its a ridiculous amount of money for something that will make no tangible difference to your driving. 

  • Anonymous

    Not everything has to make a difference to the lap times. There’s the aspect of immersion as well… using this wheel is simply more fun than using a G25 for example, plain and simple.

    And again, nothing about the price is ridiculous, you simply can’t compare a wheel that’s largely made of plastic with a high-tech piece of kit like this with all its features. It’s like driving your Chevy to the next Porsche dealership and screaming at them how ridiculously overpriced their cars are…

  • Anonymous

    Who mentioned anything about lap times? I was referring to the load of rubbish you wrote in regard to a completely different wheel with total different internals. I own one of these wheels so I’m fully aware of the difference it makes. It is unparalleled in what it offers at this price. I think you should not be commenting on this wheel unless you have used one. You are trying to dissuade people from buying one because of your experience of a completely different wheel. You are ill informed and ill prepared to offer any advice on this wheel.

  • http://twitter.com/StarFoXySxv550 StarFoXySxv550

     Can you drive the beemer in your living room?

  • Richard Hessels

    Just checked your rig on FB.

    Nice setup, but a bit of cleaning around would make it stand out a bit more.

  • http://twitter.com/jonneymendoza jono

    Hi, Can this wheel be attached to a wheel stand pro that i have? my wheel stand pro is sued for my g25 wheel

  • Anonymous

    lol   Can you drive this sim-wheel around Wales?   Does it do 120mph?   Has it got a great, straight-six BMW engine?  Does it sound fabulous in 2nd gear redlining at 6500 revs?  

    hehe

  • Anonymous

    y, cool, appreciate the response.    I just didn’t like the idea that only people who can afford £500 for just a wheel are “real” sim racers.  

    I’m sure everyone would like such a wheel….I would.  But you know….it’s a lotta dough….in tough times too.  

    Even to save you have to something to save, right? Anyway – I’ll quit whining. :D

  • http://www.facebook.com/GuyboMoulton Guy Moulton

    This is not a review.  It’s an advertisement.  

  • http://www.facebook.com/Fanatec Thomas Jackermeier

     Hmmm…ok let’s play this game. How much will it be to take your BMW to the Nordschleife? How much gasoline, insurance, repairs, tyres etc does it cost to mantain a CSR Elite?
    Oh and how does this comparison look like after you smashed your BMW with 200 km/h in the Fuchsröhre?

    he he :)

  • Anonymous

    hehe

    well, it really could get to Germany.   I struggle to see someone managing it with a PC wheel.  

  • Anonymous

     If you had tried this wheel once, you would know, that it does not need any advertisement ;-)

  • Radek Żukowski

    This kind of argument is so stupid.
    If the wheel is too expensive then don’t buy it. Sheesh.

  • Anonymous

    Isn’t any positive review an advertisement? 

  • http://www.facebook.com/laurent.cortier Laurent Cortier

    Of course, mate, I perfectly understand your position. We are all struggling, you’re not alone. You can’t imagine how difficult life is for me too… (lost both my parents to cancer last year, the banks are trying all they can to steal my home, I can’t work for medical reasons, etc.), you know ?
    But we all gotta find our fun somewhere. You invested in a BMW and I’m sure you’re enjoying it as much in real life as I’ll enjoy my CSR Elite on the Nordschleife ;)

  • http://www.facebook.com/laurent.cortier Laurent Cortier

    And I thought Facebook was concerned about my privacy ;)

    Thanks for the comments… It was a mess in my appartment when I built it indeed, since then I moved and it’s clean, don’t worry ;)
    At the same time… It’s a work in progress, I keep updating it, like now with a new wheel.

    Here’s my build log if you’re interested : http://www.x-simulator.de/forum/silly-c-one-s-first-2dof-scn5-racing-sim-t2753.html

  • http://www.facebook.com/laurent.cortier Laurent Cortier

    Come on, cut the guy some slack… Of course he’s not going to buy it if it’s too expensive for him. That was the point of his dissatisfaction, even if expressed with a little envy ;)

  • http://www.facebook.com/laurent.cortier Laurent Cortier

    Some do ;)

    I also had this vid of a guy driving in circles in his living rooms with a caterham or something. :P

  • http://www.facebook.com/laurent.cortier Laurent Cortier

    I’ve received my GT2 1 week after ordering (still in december 2010).

    But I don’t even know why we’re all responding to you, you never said ANYTHING constructive or useful on this blog in months, no reasons it would change now.

    I’m sorry for you, friend, you seem like a very sad man.

  • http://www.facebook.com/laurent.cortier Laurent Cortier

    I never had any issue around center with my Fanatec wheels, so I’m positively sure your friend has had some trouble configuring the wheel or the game. 
    Or maybe the wheel is defective, that’s always possible (NO single product on earth has had 0 defects, this is industry), but a faulty game/sim seems more likely.

    I think the “hardcore” community as you say, is perfectly aware of Fanatec’s FFB quality ;)
    It’s mostly the console gamers and other kids that complain about Fanatec without ever owning one ;)

  • http://www.facebook.com/laurent.cortier Laurent Cortier

    What is an advertisement ?

    Does a review need to be negative to be a review ?

  • Anonymous

    If the comment is too stupid don’t reply to it

  • Anonymous

    chrissakes, even Barrichello ain’t got one.

  • Anonymous

    Sorry to hear all that LC.       I’ve nothing against people buying it, or being able to afford to buy it.   Just saying……I don’t like the suggestion one needs to be able to afford such a wheel to be “a real simracer”.    

    I hope you enjoy it.  It looks beaut.  

  • http://www.facebook.com/laurent.cortier Laurent Cortier

    Thanks mate, I WILL enjoy it for sure. No harm done. Peace and courage to you…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Marcus-Caton/647940120 Marcus Caton

    When is the CSW being released damnit!

  • http://www.facebook.com/laurent.cortier Laurent Cortier

    As it’s the same base as this one, maybe they waiting for some feedback ? In order to correct anything that would have been missed during development ?

  • Dan Hughes

    How is this compared to a t500rs? With a set of half decent pedals its double the price(UK + EU)!!! I’m sure its a great wheel but twice as good as a t500rs? Given the price I hope it is.

  • http://twitter.com/jonneymendoza jono

    Hi, can this wheel be attached to my wheel stand pro that currently houses my g25 wheel?

  • Stefan Michael

    I own two Logitechs (DF-GT, G27) and a 911 GT3 RS V2 Clubsport Edition by Fanatec. I must say the GT3 is the best Wheel when it comes to overall feeling. It has to do with the excellent Pedals and the belt system with great motor for FFB. Also the onboard tweaking functions are nice. But as I tested it for the first time I immediately thought there is much to improve. The pedal shifters feel flimsy (much better on the G27), the Sequential and H-Shifters are a joke. (entirely plastic, unnatural feeling & sound and the mounting is out of the world). Also there is a lot of plastic on the wheel itself and the buttons don’t give you that quality feeling. It seems that the Clubsport Pedals and the parts of the wheel were developed from different persons. The CSPs are high end in building quality and design. A phantastic work of quality engineering. The wheel itself doesn’t reflect this high standard. BUT they are sturdy. The Elite Series seem to be a step into the right direction. More metal, less plastic and a much better modular, maintainable layout. I have not tested it yet but will do.I’m very happy to see a small company like Fanatec grow, because even if there were problems with different aspects of support and delivery time (wich can be optimized), they can react much better to the ideas of the community to improve their products. Better for us customers! I think a little bit patient is what everyone of us should be. It’s just a luxurious hobby we are able to do. Not vital for living. So congrats Fanatec for the new wheel! Were is the Clubsport Shifter? ;)

  • Stefan Michael

     *Sry for the grammar btw. I’m not a native English speaker :)

  • Stefan Michael

    You can hardmount it out of the box if your wheelstand provides it. Other than that you can buy an optional table clamp.

  • http://www.facebook.com/marcel.penzke Marcel Penzkofer

    So this other wheel, I think it is called CSW (guess that could be wrong as I heard lots of things), which is mainly based on this one, how much more might that cost and how much better will it be? Anyone knows if it’ll be worth waiting for it any longer than just buying this one? Will both have PS3 & Xbox support or is the other one only coming for PC?

    Lots of questions, anyone able to answer? :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/laurent.cortier Laurent Cortier

    Easy ;)
    (I just received mine this morning, after a month of waiting… Gosh it’s nice)

    The CSW shares the mecanics of the CSR Elite, but the electronics and rim implementation differs between them. CSW is limited to PC and PS3, will have different customized rims (for now, only the F1 and GT/BMW rim will be available initially). The CSW has a quick release mechanism that works IN GAME, support for on rim displays and 111 buttons.
    It was said to be released for approximately 700€, and each rim should cost between 150€ and 300€.

    Thomas has started the beta testing phase on the CSW a few weeks ago, so it should be out in the following months. Is it worth waiting for it ? Depends on your needs. Obviously not if you’d like to use it on XBOX360, or don’t have the extra 200-500€, or don’t care for switchable rims…
    Obviously yes if you’re an F1 or GT/BMW freak, race exclusively on PC, want the best from Fanatec, and don’t care to… wait :D

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