Fanatec CSR Elite Pedals – Review

Back in late 2008, Fanatec introduced the Porsche Clubsport Pedals, a fully aluminum-made pedal set equipped with advanced features such as a load cell brake and pedal vibration.

Three years later, Fanatec has revealed the CSR Elite Pedals that retain most of the bigger models’ features while selling for an even more competitive price.

Is switching to the CSR Elite Pedals worth the money compared to a standard pedal set? Read the review to find out!

Features

The CSR Elite Pedals are a standalone pedal unit made almost fully of durable aluminum. The set comes with a standard three-pedal layout consisting of gas, brake & clutch.

The most important feature the CSR Elite pedals is the brake pedal that uses a load cell instead of a potentiometer like pedal sets from other mass-market manufacturers such as Logitech or Thrustmaster.

What may sound like a technicality to some actually completely changes your driving & braking experience but more on that later on.

Aside from the load-cell, the pedals comes with lots of other premium features such as full adjustability as users are as pedal position, angle and springs can be tweaked to the users liking.

Compared to its bigger brother the Porsche Club Sport Pedals, the Elites have lost a single feature and that’s brake pedal vibration which remains an exclusive feature of the top-shelf model.

Using an additional inversion kit, the CSR Elite pedals can even be inverted to simulate hanging pedals, a feature that was first introduced to the mass market by the Thrustmaster T500 RS.

Build Quality

Even though the CSR Elite Pedals sell for less than the Clubsport Pedals, Fanatec has cut no corners in terms of build quality as this is a piece of high-quality gear.

The pedals and the footrest are made of high-quality aluminum, giving the whole unit a very durable look and feel and resulting in an impressive weight.

Aside from some minor parts of the pedal mechanics, the only plastic used on the pedals regards the undertray that is used to hold the aluminum components together.

Even though the Clubsport pedals used no plastic at all and were fully made of aluminum, the plastic casing actually helps the CSR Elites with their positive impression. I reviewed the Clubsports back when they were brand new and some details like the wiring on the underside looked a bit rough around the edges.

As much as Fanatec has streamlined their products in terms of documentation & support since 2008, the CSR Elites feel like a much more rounded and finished product despite the plastic undertray and being the cheaper option.

The pedals can even be removed from the plastic undertray for those who wish to hard-mount them to a racing rig.

The durable materials definitely pay off in the long run as I´ve been using the pedals for quite a while and despite continued usage, the set still looks absolutely like new. These pedals are made to take a beating and won’t wear out due to the use of high quality sensors and the load cell.

Installation

This topic can be covered very briefly as the pedals are very easy to set up. On the PC, it’s only a matter of plugin the pedals into the USB port and get going. Since the CSR Elites lack the vibration feature of the Clubsports, there’s no need to install a driver as the pedals work fine with the standard input device driver.

The pedals are compatible to every simulation that supports a secondary controller device which applies to pretty much all titles released in the past 5-6 years, even mainstream titles like F1 2011 or DiRT 3 offer this kind of compatibility these days.

For console usage, the pedals only work with Fanatec wheels (excluding the 911 Turbo) as the pedals have to be plugged into the wheel. PC users of Fanatec wheels can theoretically use this method as well, using the USB connection should be preferred though as it uses the full 10bit resolution.

The only slight hiccup I ran into when setting up the pedals were the rubber stops on the bottom that proved to be completely ineffective on metal surfaces. I´m using the pedals together with the GTOmega rig and the pedals kept sliding around on the wheel plate.

The solution to this was rather simple as a pice of carpet put under the pedals stopped the sliding instantly as the rubber stops work effectively on carpet.

Driving Experience

With the pedals plugged in, it’s time to give them a try. Now we get to the point where the CSR Elite’s leapfrog the competition. It’s not the neat design or the durable materials but the load cell brake that set them apart from the competition.

Usual mass market pedal sets work with potentiometers, meaning the force of the brake is controlled by how far the pedal is being pushed. If you push it a little, little force is applied and full force isn’t applied until you push it to the metal.

This is the way pretty much every sim racer has learned to brake, even though it has little to with how the brake in a real car feels. The load cell brake changes this approach completely as the brake force is controlled by the amount of force applied to the pedal, not pedal movement.

At first, this takes a little to get used to as there’s very little movement and travel in the pedal as the brake is extremely stiff. After a while you get used to control the braking force by pressure as you can use muscle tension to dosage the brake.

It gets even better by the fact that the load cell is easily adjustable. Behind the brake pedal there’s a little dial that sets the amount of force needed to push the pedal to the max. While the brake is pretty loose on the lowest setting, it gets very stiff with the highest as you have to really slam down on the brake to apply maximum pressure.

This comes in really handy when driving cars with very sensible brakes that tend to lock up such as powerful open wheelers. With a bit of practice, the load cell brake is much easier to dosage as a potentiometer-powered brake without any additional fiddling or tricks like replacement springs, tennis balls or anything else that has been tried to improve the feel of regular pedal sets.

The gas & clutch pedals feel solid as well but the experience here doesn’t really differ that much from other pedal sets as the load cell brake is the one thing that sets the CSR Elite pedals apart.

Conclusion

Getting back to the initial question, are the CSR Elites worth the price difference compared to a normal pedal set? The answer is yes!

Whether you´re already using a Fanatec wheel or a competitor product from Logitech & Thrustmaster, the CSR Elite’s will vastly improve your sim experience as the load cell brake fundamentally changes the driving experience.

Once you´re used to this technology, going back to cheaper pedal sets will not be a satisfying experience anymore as the load cell brake really spoils you in terms of feeling & adjustability.

Luckily, there’s little reason to ever go back as the CSR Elite pedals are durable enough to last a lifetime and thanks to being completely independent from the used wheel (on the PC), they make up a perfect long-time companion.

The CSR Elites sell for 149 Euros/Dollars, 50 Euros/Dollars cheaper than the bigger Porsche Clubsport wheels. As described above, the only major difference is the lacking brake pedal vibration and given the fact that it only works on select simulations and is only realistic with ABS-equipped cars, I personally feel like this isn’t exactly a killer-feature you don’t want to miss out on.

In all other regards, the CSR Elites have improved on their predecessor, the result is a well-crafted and streamlined product made of quality materials that offers a technological advantage no other manufacturer is able to offer in this price range.

The CSR Elite pedals are exclusively available on the Fanatec Website

Pros:

  • Made of durable aluminum
  • No driver installation required
  • Compatible to any steering wheel
  • Adjustable load cell brake

Cons:

  • No brake pedal vibration
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  • Anonymous

    Brake load cell… which is why I am in love with my CST F1 Pedals!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=512231406 Aaron Carlisle

    Hell yes!  They may have cost me a pretty penny, but I wouldn’t give up my CST F1 pedals for anything!  I have the adjustable base, double wide brake pedal, and extra stiff race brake upgrades on mine. :)

  • Anonymous

    hi – ive ordered the clubsport pedals – can you comment on how hard you actually have to press the pedal compared to real life? ive driven single seaters and you have to really apply maximum force – its fairly easy in the car though because you’re obviously strapped in and can really push against the pedal.

    i fear this wont translate well when im sat on my computer in a chair….so can you comment on how hard you physically have to push, and whether the pedal gives much feel to you? (to stamp on it and slowly come off the brake as the speed drops)

  • Anonymous

    If you are asking about the CST F1 pedals they can be as hard as you want. I have the ‘super stiff’ option, and even a stiffer experimental version as well. I am a former bodybuilder and this baby takes everything I can give it. It is an incredible piece of kit and it is awesomely overbuilt. The stiffness can be adjusted in it’s variance of feel along with the ultra high resolution linearity (this output can be custom adjusted to your taste). Of course to be able to use this Super Stiff option you can’t be in an office chair. You’ll end up shoving yourself into the next room. I use mine in my Hyerstimulator where I have nothing but leverage.

    Now back to the Fanatec Clubsport elites…

  • Anonymous

    load cell brake is as unrealistic as spring brake for some reason people get fooled to the idea it’s better. pressure based brakes are the only truly “realistic” braking system for sims and I hope Fanatec decides to invest in that area soon. Check out iRacing’s harware forums for some great pressure based brakes.

  • http://twitter.com/djbokoboko Vaggelis Theodoridis

    Actually ur right..
    I had this discusion with a friend and he told m excactly that..I was going to buy them but then i saved my money..
    How much do they cost these presure pedals?Can u give me some links?
    Thanks :)

  • Danny Bouwes

    Nice review. Still I’m happy with my Clubsport.
    Which brings me to them. They are called Clubsports, not Porsche Clubsports.
    The Fanatec Clubsport line has nothing to do with Porsche (just like the upcoming Clubsport wheel).

  • Anonymous

    why did my post get deleted??? I done with virtualr!

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t delete anything, the system never recorded any reply to him, I´ve just checked.

    Why would I even delete comments?

  • http://www.facebook.com/steve30x Steve Farrell

    When I am buying the CSR Elite I am getting this pedal set. One question though. Is the tension on the accelerator adjustable. The Accelerator / gas pedal on my G25 is getting very light in the past few weeks , but I have my G25 since it was released (five or six years.

  • http://twitter.com/roadography roadography

    A load cell measures the amount of force applied by the brake. Pressure is just a measurement of force evenly distributed across an area. A load cell seems like a tidier solution for sim racing pedals. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Diego-Colafabio/644649048 Diego Colafabio

    Nice review, thanks really much. I’d like to buy a good pedal set but..for now i don’t have enough money :(

  • Danny Bouwes

    Yes, you can adjust it by either changing the spring or by shortening it. It’s quite easy.

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    My apologies Rob I went over 10 mins answering Vaggelis and someone I must have deleted the thing :(

  • http://www.facebook.com/steve30x Steve Farrell

    Thank you Danny.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Eduardo-Kissilevitch/675496888 Eduardo Kissilevitch

    Funny no ones talked about the load cell problems.

  • Anonymous

    Which? I’ve been using the set for over two months and I haven’t had any problems.

  • http://www.facebook.com/laurent.cortier Laurent Cortier

    How hard you have to press the pedal is entirely adjustable… Don’t worry, you’ll love them !

    I have the “old” Clubsport pedals, but I guess it works the same with these, you can adjust the spring tension, and the load cell pressure.

    Of course, to support strong braking, you better strap your chair and pedals together… Time to build a cockpit if you haven’t already ! (yay, this is exciting times, upgrading a rig… lucky you, mate !)

  • http://www.facebook.com/laurent.cortier Laurent Cortier

    They are incredibly nice indeed, but you can’t compare a 850€ euro or us made pedal set with 150€ chinese made Clubsports… As much as I love my CSPs ;)

  • http://www.facebook.com/laurent.cortier Laurent Cortier

    What is your Hyerstimulator ? A sex toy ? Couldn’t find it on Google ;)

  • http://www.facebook.com/laurent.cortier Laurent Cortier

    Oh, so thousands of sim racers owning CSPs got fooled because YOU think it’s not realistic ?

    My CSPs work better than potentiometer based ones not because I get fooled by Fanatec and their load cell brake, but because it gives me more precise braking, and that shows in lap times.

    On top of that, pressure based brakes ARE BASED ON LOAD CELLs. If you mean hydraulic brakes, that’s totally unrelated to the measuring of the braking force, it’s only used to provide a realistic feeling when pressing the brake, as real car brakes are hydraulic.

    On top of being negative all the time, you just proved you have absolutely no clue on what you’re talking about.

  • http://www.facebook.com/laurent.cortier Laurent Cortier

    Vaggelis, SBKRacer doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

    Even great pedals like the CST F1 use load cells in the brake pedal.

    Please read the review again instead of believing what a troll tells you in a few lines after a huge positive review !

  • http://www.facebook.com/laurent.cortier Laurent Cortier

    Precisely !

    Thanks for bringing a little sense to the “debate”.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Eduardo-Kissilevitch/675496888 Eduardo Kissilevitch

    loosing calibration every time.

  • Peter Osburg

    I currently have a G25 and the stock pedal set. I mounted it with screws on my rig but the rig has a limited number of holes for screws. Therefore I would like to know if the CSR pedals can be mounted on a rig with screws, too?

  • Anonymous

    I’m sorry Laurent but if you think the CSP has realistic braking you ARE a tool.
    Vaggelis, Derek Speare Designs is working on a realistic pedal set at a reasonable price hopefully it will be out sooner than later!
    BTW compare the pic below with the Fanatec model and tell me what you think!

  • Danny Bouwes

    From the iRacing forums, posted by Derek himself.
    “…For the brake pedal, you have a standard load cell, a flexible film force sensor, a pneumatic system with pressure transducer or a hydraulic fluid system with a pressure transducer. Any braking system using a pressure system of some type is overwhelmingly more preferred. ”

  • Anonymous

    MontoyaVR: I’m totally on the fence which pedal set to get, the CSP or Elite’s. Would love some more insight from a pro who’s rockin’ both. I was leaning more towards the CSPs due to the all metal construction and ABS vibration. But after reading this review, I’m liking the sound of newer more streamlined tech and possibility of the inversion kit. One note: ISR mentioned in their review that there was a noticeable play on the Elite’s gas pedal due to the plastic base. Do they feel as solid as the Clubsports? Which one would you pick if you could only pick one set? And hey, how cool is the ABS vibration thing? Do you think that feature will continue to be well supported and well implemented in the next gen of sims like pCARS, rFactor 2, GTR3, & Assetto Corsa?

  • http://www.facebook.com/steve30x Steve Farrell

    As montoya said he has the pedals with two months and did’nt have any problems with the load cell.

  • Anonymous

     ’OR’ and ‘more preferred’ period. btw his is hydraulic fluid system so I don’t get your point! I’m no trying to bash Fanatec I think they got by far the best sim hardware for mainstream simracing but you don’t seem to separate facts and assumptions!

  • Danny Bouwes

    This wasn’t an attack at you, just trying to clarify the discussion.

  • Anonymous

    I saw that Danny I wasn’t getting what you point was I see you were trying to be neutral but thanks for Derek’s words it answered those who same load cell was the same as clearly stated by him it isn’t the case! 

  • http://www.facebook.com/laurent.cortier Laurent Cortier

    You won’t “waste” time with me ? 
    You’re an insult to the community, I for one am sick of your bullshit… Get down of your high horse and sense of superiority, this is a joke…

    You can’t have a sensible debate without insulting or bashing someone else’s work. You’re just a dick.

    Montoya would do us all a favor by deleting your posts… But he’s too much of a gentleman for that, something you’ll never be.

  • http://www.facebook.com/laurent.cortier Laurent Cortier

    As usual, it is you who don’t understand the point…

    You ARE bashing Fanatec and all their users with your comments above, and again, what’s the point of comparing R&D pedalset costing 10 times as much as the ones reviewed in here by Montoya ? 
    To prove that you know better than anyone ?

    Man, you have the ego of a 5 years old…

  • Anonymous

    you called yourself a fool I just stated what you said and I repeat yes you are if you think CSPs are as realistic pedals compared to a car. If you call yourself a fool and I stated that how can I be insulting everybody? Where did I miss behave or will you continue to insult me based on my posts? Everyone who owns a CSP should be happy about it and enjoy the best mass market pedals available! BTW Thomas is a great guy and this is completely of topic!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Torsten-Brandt/100000088023299 Torsten Brandt

    I have it too and do have those recalibration problems. One time I have a slightly amplitude in the brake axis without touching the brake pedal. This gets worse and worse till I have nearly 5 to 10% braking power on the straights! On the other hand it happens sometimes, that the brake completly looses calibration and I have NO brake power when stepping on the pedal. Just pulling off the usb plug connector and reconnecting it again helps with this. Great experience during a race :-(

  • reynard11

    Just thought I’d point out there is one other difference between these and Clubsport pedals. That is that the Clubsports do not use potentiometers for the accelerator & clutch pedal either. They have Hall Effect sensors.

  • Anonymous

    And there was me thinking i was a BOSS with my DFGT pedals. I’m really struggling with iRacing and these pedals, no feel at all. Wish my modded G25 pedals still worked. These look amazing for the price

  • http://twitter.com/kennysabarese Kenny Sabarese

    I really don’t understand this product at all. For 50 bucks you get stronger pedals, and contact-less sensors which should last longer, the vibration feature is whiz bang but shouldn’t have cost more than a few dollars“. 

    Also why call them CSR Elite? The CSR Elite wheel is the top of the line that they make, in this case, the CSR Elite pedals are the midrange pedals. It’s confusing. 

    They should have just made an inversion kit for the CSPs and maybe just changed some options on the CSPs to shave a few bucks off of them for those more budget conscious. 

  • Anonymous

    40 comments on pedals.   crikey.

    Slow news day?  lol

  • Anonymous

    The Elite pedals do offer far more modularity than the fixed unit Clubsport pedals. As many more adjustments (i believe) without requiring a tuning kit, replacing springs and such. Plus lateral positioning and possible inversion kit, and being $50 cheaper. Though, yeah, definitely far more robust. I’m personally struggling with which set to buy.. Regarding the confusion with the CSR Elite brand currently their top wheel but not their most robust pedals, are you not aware of the the imminent release of their Clubsport wheel?. Also, I’ve read that they’re pretty definitely not planing on offering an inversion kit for the current edition of Clubsports.

  • Anonymous

    “load cell brake is as unrealistic as spring brake for some reason people get fooled to the idea it’s better.”

    SBKRacer: nope, you’re dead wrong.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dave.felida Dave Felida

    That’s what I have too. And the clutch sensor is broken, I think because of the wiring. But I didn’t even try to get it fixed, I was like: “Fanatec can lick my hairy hole”, I just didn’t want to go through the hassle of sending the giant thing back to them and stuff.. They were broken within two weeks if I recall correctly. 
    So now I’m back to using my G25 pedals. I don’t know if I’ll buy something from them ever again. Their stuff looks great and has great features and when it works it works awesomely. But I’m just too dissappointed to try again.

  • Anonymous

    I feel pretty much the same about my Clubsport pedals.  They’re great when they’re working, but they’re just too flaky for me to put much faith in.  The *apparent* quality of construction of the mechanical components seems quite good, but the electronics are not very competently engineered.  

    The Hall effect sensors on the accel/clutch are extremely sensitive to fouling with dust and lint and regularly go out of alignment, requiring constant re-tightening, and performance-wise don’t give as linear a response as pots anyways.  I’d go so far as to say this is an advantage the Elite’s have over the CSP.  Sure, pots wear out after a few years, but they’re cheap and easy to replace. 

    The load cell for the brake pedal also regularly goes out of calibration (5-10% drag on the brake, which is really, really annoying because I don’t always notice it right away and think for some reason I’m just driving like crap).  The connection to the pot to control brake pressure is chintzy, and one day if I care enough I plan to just replace it with an appropriate fixed resistance.  Actually, all the wires throughout the pedals are flimsy, poorly soldered, and don’t have enough slack–and also the connectors are crap.

    Basically, the electronics in general, which in terms of materials and manufacturing are probably just a small fraction of the total manufacturing cost, are about the lowest quality I have ever seen in something that isn’t meant to be disposable.  This taints the whole product.  It would have been well worth Fanatec charging an extra $25 and hiring an in-house electrical engineer to make sure things are done right.  Their mechanical engineer is okay, but I don’t know why they put him in charge of the electronics.

    I’ve mostly gone back to my G27 pedals. They aren’t anything to get excited about by a long ways, but damn if they aren’t rock solid reliable.  I think I’d pretty much recommend anyone interested in a good set of pedals skip over this supposedly mid-range stuff, save up the extra money and get some of Todd Cannon’s pedals.  They might be a little steep, but you will keep them forever.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for the review Montoya, very thorough and informative. Just what we needed!

    In order to decide what I am gonna buy I have to ask a question about the brake pedal vibration of the Clubsports pedals though: does the feedback also work when locking a tire (without the ABS on) or only when the ABS kicks in?

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