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looks great

Wow, stunning

I’ll have to do some research about all those upcoming F1 ’09 mods. They all look great!

I just have 1 question: Do they have permission from IPM to use FSONE’s stuff in their mod?

Well have they ever asked for permission?
And has that stopped them from releasing stuff?
No, and that’s the truth sadly.

Permission???? Why?
This will be absolute unique mod. All model created in 3Dmax, not buying these.

I can see that those helmet shapes are from FSONE 2008 mod. That means you need permission.

emerico:
Permission???? Why?
This will be absolute unique mod. All model created in 3Dmax, not buying these.

I 2nd you!!!

i hope to convert to gtr e

I wish all these mod makers would just merge. Theres what? 2? 3? How many 2009 F1 mods? Imagine if they merged their projects into one SUPER project.

Yeah. Nikon and Canon are both making cameras. Imagine if they merged into 1 super camera maker !
Fiat and Aston Martin both make cars. Imagine if they merged….

Nah, again, this isnt how things work. Nothing wrong with a bit of choice. And I dont see CTDP merging with F1RFT anytime soon, do you ? :)

JGoenR:
I can see that those helmet shapes are from FSONE 2008 mod. That means you need permission.

Wow, please don’t write stupid things.
Check the pictures please:
[url=http://img135.imageshack.us/i/helmety.jpg/][img=http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/8606/helmety.jpg][/url]

JGoenR:
I can see that those helmet shapes are from FSONE 2008 mod. That means you need permission.

This is not FSONE, or CTDP or anything. This is absolute new mod, with new base.

http://img219.imageshack.us/i/helmeto.jpg/

I see clearly , that LCD and Shape of Helmets from FSONE2008

Yes…Absolute new mod…

I think I have seen the LCD texture before, I think I have done that texture. OK, it’s a very small thing, but it’s leeching anyway.

In top, my LCD texture, in bottom, RFT texture:
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/1726/lcdq.jpg

I’d say they look exactly the same…

Modding groups like RFT will never learn to do anything by themselves, they always have to copy something. So please, delete my work from the RFT mod, because I have never given permission to RFT to use it.

And perhaps the helmets aren’t from FSOne 2008, but probably they are a modification of the helmets that RFT have used always that are from FSOne 2006. Wireframe pictures will probably solve our doubts.

Wow, look how PETTY the rFactor community has become.

“Oh, that helemt shaped thing looks exactly like the helmet shaped thing i did, must be stolen”

And no GGSF1, they don’t look the same. The one on the bottom is a few shades darker. The shading around the three LED’s on the bottom row looks different to me as well.

As such, not one of you have provided any SOLID proof they have in fact taken anything, its all innuendo. If you guys we’re working in real companies, this would be grounds for legal action for defamation.

Pathetic

@r8response: Do you think I can’t know when anything is stolen from a mod I have done? That applies to any modder.

1 – Darker or lighter colors aren’t proof of anything, because renders use lighthing, that means, there will be shadows and depending of the environment colors will be darker or brighter.

2 – The shapes are exactly in the same place than in my LCD texture. Well, RFT members and myself should have telepathy, that’s why we both paint exactly the same thing.

3 – The LCD texture looks exactly like my texture, which is CoDeX’s texture (used with permission unlike others)

In this picture you can compare everything, except the lighting (already explained). If that’s not a solid proof, then I must be stupid or something like that (in bottom, my texture, in top, RFT):
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/9648/aaaaagfn.jpg

And finally, a Spanish proverb that fits perfectly here:

“No hay mejor ciego que el que no quiere ver” (which means, the best blind is the one which doesn’t want to see)

Oh, last thing, try to do a car, a texture…everything from scratch of course, and you’ll understand why modders complain about leeched things.

r8response:
Wow, look how PETTY the rFactor community has become.
“Oh, that helemt shaped thing looks exactly like the helmet shaped thing i did, must be stolen”

As such, not one of you have provided any SOLID proof they have in fact taken anything, its all innuendo.
Pathetic

ok first, the word isn’t ‘innuendo’ hehe :)
You might want to use ‘hearsay’ or ‘speculation’
Innuendo is saying something and meaning something else.

Secondly, it is far from pathetic or petty. Its all down to principals. Your work is your work. Other people using it without permission is just wrong.
You can argue over how loud someone should complain about it if you want, but the one thing that is not disputable is it’s incorrectness.

Will the admin remove this?
It is clear that once again they have stolen stuff from others.

yes , Please Remove this stuff from virtualr.
Cause they stolen stuff of our mods , and message for F1RFT
do ur own work please .

All that I would like to hear is that someone from RFT says: Sorry for that, we’ll replace the LCD.

But I doubt that happens…

omg what an envious gang…(sry, from hungary, not perfect english)
i don’t think that fsone or ctdp is did everything from 0 – i thing they r modificated 1-2 thing
did they have permission?
i know sompir is not! copy, this is a mod from the zero (0) and respect it, and i dont think he copied anything
(maybe in rft 2008, but not in rft 2009)
i think there is one problem: sompir’s mod is concurrency…
(sorry for my bad english, i hope u can read this)

At least they are doing this ’09-mod now…

And former RFT’s has been here, so why not this too.

@kiki888: A mod from 0? Damn it, haven’t you read my previous posts?

And if you were calling me envious…I made the 2009 Toyota which appeared 2 weeks ago here… So I think I am not the one that feels envy…(yes, I know that might sound a bit arrogant, but I haven’t found another way to say it)

sorry, but this 2 thing (LCD-s) must be similar, cause this will be 2 Brawn GP..

look guys, you know that fsone didn’t gave out pictures from brawn gp, and the modder made it from pictures, i heard in team speak, when they were searching pictures about cars, it was a month ago, when fsone did not gave out anything.I’m intrested in how do you think that he stole elements from that fucking mod???????? CAN HE SEE THE FUTURE?????

@kiki888: Yes, the LCD must be similar. Similar, not EXACT. It is exactly the same texture, so he stole it. As easy as that.

@RoadRunner: What he stole, which is the LCD, is already released with FSOne 2008. And look at my post, here’s the evidence.

Anyone that thinks that it’s not stolen, take a look at the pictures I posted. And if after seeing them you still say that it’s not stolen, you must be blind.

hahaha good joke…where did u get that lcd, m8?
i said, there is 1 BIG problem: concurrency

emerico:

This is not FSONE, or CTDP or anything. This is absolute new mod, with new base.
http://img219.imageshack.us/i/helmeto.jpg/

Thanks for giving link to this picture. They don’t look the same as I first thought.

Images have been removed, no further previews of F1RFT will be posted unless it will be cleaned up.

@kiki888: I made that LCD. I have the PSD here. Do you need anything else? Also, you can find it in the FSOne 2008 mod.

But well, I have to say that the problem might be in the modder who did it. I mean, maybe someone in RFT (the “boss”) said, hey, let’s make a legal mod, but the modders started copying things. Then, the “boss” thought it was legal but in fact it wasn’t.

Let’s trust RFT, I hope they remove everything which is illegal. Fingers crossed.

I agree, it would be a shame if a 99% scratch-made mod is illegal because of a few illegal materials.

I´m happy to repost the previews if they decide to replace the materials in question.

How sad can you be…. shame on you F1RFT!

I think the clearest way would be to post a pic about the FSOne texture and the F1RFT texture too (and not renders). But in my opinion if the LCD have to look almost real the textures must be exactly the same or at least similar.
It’s the fear of the concurrency.. (as kiki888 said)

Similar yes but not exactly the same which looks to be the case judging from this early renders and the FSONE2008 LCD.
Concurrency isn’t the case here it is about respecting others work which hasn’t been done here.
F1RFT will have to post a pic of their LCD texture and then we’ll have to judge it from there if they are the same or just similar.

Toby:
I think the clearest way would be to post a pic about the FSOne texture and the F1RFT texture too (and not renders). But in my opinion if the LCD have to look almost real the textures must be exactly the same or at least similar.
It’s the fear of the concurrency.. (as kiki888 said)

LMAO i find all this hilarious, get over yourselves

(Sorry for my bad English)

kiki888 is right. It’s the fear of the concurrency, because (as I see from the rft 2009 pictures) Sompir is making better mod than the FSone mod (again).

Fsone guys this is very ridiculous and disgusting to accuse him with stealing without proper evidence! What will be the next thing, Sompir will have to ask for your permission because he is making a 2009 F1 mod too? – come now!

I’m sure that he can prove that his mod 100% legal.

And It’s a great shame to remove the Brawn pictures because because Fsone guys just asked that.

This is not right and unfair!!!

:( :( :(

Sandorov,

You have to udnerstand my (and most of the communities) position. Mods with unauthorised usage of other people’s content are illegal and FSONE provided enough evidence that shows that their textures have been used.

I didn’t remove the images just because they asked but because they provided evidence to back up their claim.

If it’s indeed a concidence and both textures just look alike, the F1RFT crew should be able to prove that by giving out the original file so they can be compared.

Damn it, I have posted the evidence! Are you blind or what?

Here is the evidence, how many times I have to say it:
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/9648/aaaaagfn.jpg
(Top, RFT, bottom, my texture which appears in FSOne; as you can see, IT’S EXACTLY THE SAME TEXTURE)

This is a proper evidence. And if you don’t think both textures are the same, then you need to get your eyes tested.

And yes, fear of concurrency…please take a look at the first finished car from FSOne, which is my Toyota, compare with RFT cars…Better than FSOne…Yes, in your dreams. Take a look at the other FSOne car models…Oh yes, we are feared of RFT…

sorry, but the RFT team have only 2! members – one man is making sounds and sompir is making the mod – cars, painting, etc
and look, look the pictures, look the onboard pictures…and yes, you’re feared of RFT – THIS IS THE ONE PROBLEM

Look dear little GGSF1!
Are you just joking??????????
How big glasses do you have???????
Sompir car’s are much more better than that fuckin’ toyota.Don’t think that i find that bad, but look at torro rosso, or look at brawn gp (made all by 1person in a really short time).And let’s talk about the lcd. It’s the same, becouse it’s the same in reality too, Sompir made these 3D modells from pictures from reality. If you think that he stole these one, think of, I can said that Fsone stole cars from sompir, becouse your so loved cars have 4 wheels just like RFT cars.

The cars of RFT are very good, the texture appears blurried in the renders because of the high quality they have hahahaha.

RoadRunner buy a ticket for a friend.

Jeez.

When are people going to realise that 2 things can NEVER be identical to the smallest detail???

In regard of which mod is best I don’t have any opinion as that will eventually turn up.
But two textures can’t look the same with the same colors or precision.
They look the same both in color and in precision which means that RFT must have taken it from FSONE.
RFT is welcome to prove the other way around, but until they do this mod will be illegal.

Montoya – Ok. I understand you. BUT. Sbody shows you a similar texture of that LCD display, and you automaticaly remove the rft pictures before you even give a chance to the Rft team to prove, that they din’t steal that LCD? It’s hard to except. But I understand this isn’t an easy situation for you.

GGSF1 – That picture proves nothing. It’s not evidence. Both pictures are Brawn GP steering wheel LCD textures. Does he have to replace the textures with a Force India LCD to cool you off, because you have one Brawn LCD texture? You are seriously think that Sompir have to steal from you to do a steering wheel? – He is a far better modder than that.

And I think it isn’t a correct (and smart) thing to accuse him in a public forum, before you even try to contact him and discuss in private this LCD case.

Finally. The best evidence to show your fear of the concurrency is this forum. :) :) :)

FireFox, thats not the same look at the pictures.
M3ke: I have a lot of friends…..

As said before…

A Spanish proverb that fits perfectly here:

“No hay mejor ciego que el que no quiere ver” (which means, the best blind is the one which doesn’t want to see)

And another thing. Two persons which live in 2 different countries and which made 2 different LCD can’t make exactly the same LCD.

I think he stole it because he stole it.

I don’t want to create a fight here. I just want that someone from RFT comes here and

BTW, sompir cars better than the Toyota and than all FSOne cars. In your dreams. OK, his cars are good, and he will improve, but at the moment he is not at the level of FSOne.

And I have just seen that:
http://f1rft.net/2009/loading/kormany.jpg

Then I loaded my texture and I compared:
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/4791/dashn.jpg

[ironic] And no, it’s not stolen

PS: If you don’t believe me, open the DASHBOARD.DDS file in FSOneComun.MAS, and then compare.

FSONE FUCK . goo [URL removed]

sompir:

FSONE FUCK . goo [URL removed]

Okay, I guess that means the texture is indeed stolen if that’s all you have to say….

ggsf1: your lcd texture – sompir’s texture – lcd texture on the internet:http://cache.formula1.com/photos/597×478/schlegelmilch/2009/0902-0021.jpg – SAME!!!!
that’z all, you got it from the internet, sompir got it from the internet, whats the problem??!!
peace

Haha
You get up because you dream it that Sompir stole.
indeed it f1rl stolen from Sompir

kiki888: You have the evidence there:
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/4791/dashn.jpg

If you can’t say they are the same texture, you must be blind, or you are lying.

Haha
You get up because you dream it that Sompir stole.
AND What was doed the F1RL?

I really can’t believe some people. And I’m not prepared to believe anything from a “modding team” which is renowned for stealing the work of other modders. And it’s not that they’re both illegal because they didn’t ask for permission from FOM or whoever… “Illegal” in this community means “using someone’s work without asking for permission”, which is what RFT seems to have always done. This is why I don’t believe anything from what they claim.

You should get a Hungarian dictionary and translate the text in the kormany.jpg file – It’s for you! :) :) :)

And please read again kiki888′s reply if you still don’t understand the situtation.

Poor blind man! :)

i see that they r same
but!
you found a picture on the internet:
http://cache.formula1.com/photos/597×478/schlegelmilch/2009/0902-0021.jpg
your texture and this is same – you got the texture from this
sompir’s texture and this is same – sompir got the texture from this
WHERE IS THE PROBLEM?!

GGSF1

You should get a Hungarian dictionary and translate the text in the kormany.jpg file – It’s for you! :) :) :)

And please read again kiki888′s reply if you still don’t understand the situtation.

Poor blind man! :)

@Ricky: The RL mod has got permission from FSOne, at least they asked.

@kiki888: I used a picture as background and then I drew EVERYTHING. Then sompir came and stole it.

@Sandorov: Why translate? I understand, he says that he modified it with Photoshop and so…And he made exactly the same texture that I made some months ago? Then sompir is a magician or something like that.

oh c’mon rft ur mod is pure bullshit , only the noobs likes things like this with such a low quality , so GTFO and stop stealing things that u doesn’t own , i know its hard to undestand because you guys are doing this from the beggining…

stop trolling the rfactor comunity , if you wanna do something , do it for yourself from scratch and stop bitching serious groups like fsone.

to do this crap , its better you guys DO NOTHING!

@ggsf1 – look the .gmt files in RL 2009 – szarny.gmt – the “szarny” word is hungarian
sompir got the picture from the internet, and used it – not used your file, he used the original file from the internet…

F1RL from Sompir received a permit?
you are like this know in Hungarian that you write the files in a Hungarian language?

vkt2 – you’re a real serious guy..

vkt2 -you’re a real clever guy..

GGSF1

You still don’t get the point, and I’m tired arguing with you.

From my view, the LCD case is cleared, it isn’t stolen.

Montoya – I think you can put back those Rft Brawn pictures now. :) :) :)

Goodbye for now.

kiki888:
vkt2 – you’re a real serious guy..

Ricky:
vkt2 -you’re a real clever guy..

same faggot

and y are a lesbian?!

real serious guy, who dont kno’ nuthin’
chhhhhh, gay

Since nobody seems to have anything constructive to say anymore and the matter has been discussed, I strongly suggest we end this right here before it gets even more childish.

good night, i go to sleep, good night
regards from the CONCURRENCY – the F1RFT

Ricky:
and y are a lesbian?!

kiki888:
real serious guy, who dont kno’ nuthin’
chhhhhh, gay

http://i39.tinypic.com/2d6qhig.jpg

Yes, if I was you I would delete (or close) that. Looks like people will never accept the truth.

you accept it that you accused it unduly sompirt?

yes or no?

No, they won’t accept it, because they had genuine bases for their accusations every time so far, and they also have a base for it now. You just have a tiny little pretext for it that doesn’t really stand up to scrutiny.

Not copied. Simpir do it alone. No helps. Fsone team can not elvidelni that will be the right mod f1rft09. Go F1rft09. Coming Soon. Full legal!!

You speak well Atilla Hajrá Sompir F1RFT09 the best one

I will never accept something false. I posted the evidence. If you don’t want to admit it is your problem.

you accuse it Sompir,you’ve need to prove

I do not receive an answer I am not left so here longer
GO F1RFT,Go Sompir
F1RFT2009 the best one

LOLz

I don’t give a damn about F1 mods. I never play them, so I know nothing about the modders. But I do know a couple things about painting/art. So I present myself as an “expert” witness.

And as an “expert” witness I say: those LCD displays seem the same.
Though it’s true the two textures represent the same real world object it isn’t very likely details like the hue of the unit and the reflections on the individual LED’s are the same.

Or maybe it’s just a big coincidence.

Erm… not to be nationalistic or anything, but why are Hungarians always stealing stuff from other modders?

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/4791/dashn.jpg

FSONE UP

RFT DOWN ….

guys: look F1 rl – sounds, or .gmt files
look f1wcp – sounds

from where did they obtain them?
i can! From Sompir’s mod,from the F1RFT08

Stop calling it LCD! :D As it’s not one. It’s a display using LEDs and 7-segment LED-displays.

And as a graphics guy I can clearly see from the pics that the display texture is the same. Imperfections hold the truth. Look at the LEDs on the top row, the spacing and alignment is not uniform between them. In other words, the slight arc that the LEDs should form is not smooth and the spacing between the LEDs aren’t identical.

All this over some stupid little detail on a steering wheel, how pathetic can you get. I dont particularly care, ill still download F1RFT 09 Mod once its out.

Yeah, ethics, what a piece of shit concept.

Victor_RO: Erm… not to be nationalistic or anything, but why are Hungarians always stealing stuff from other modders?

WTF?!?!?!

NOT used parts from FSONE!
VirtualR.net news/previews removed = :(
Why is FSONE major/privilege?!?! His stealing everything some year ago…

“His stealing everything some year ago…”
and then Sompir you accuse it?

@kiki888
why you are always keep defending F1RFT 2009 that sounds leeched, are you not satisfied enough about the prove that has been showed up by GGSF1 huh ? FSONE is more better than F1RFT mod. Just look at these picture that has been compared by GGSF1, they are look the same.

Brawn GP Wheel
1. Google
http://img190.imageshack.us/i/googlef.jpg/
2. Photoshop
http://f1rft.net/2009/loading/kormany.jpg

That’s it. 10 minute work only.
F1RFT Legal.

Sorry, but it’s the truth.

All F1 mod illegal!!!
All rights Codemasters!!!

Well, it was just a matter of time before someone said something like this…

G-BoR:
All F1 mod illegal!!!
All rights Codemasters!!!

No. They’re not illegal with regards to FOM and Codemasters because they are done for free. They become illegal in that event if people are selling them.

This is another type of “illegal”, which concerns the theft of one’s work (models, textures and so on). There are a lot of subtleties in the term “illegal”, but I wouldn’t expect some people to grasp them.

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is this a new record? lol

montoya likes this opera soap , it means fresh money

remove this post ffs

Nope, no new record. CTDP F1 2006 release item had 105 comments…

And why would mean lots of post mean money? I don’t think you quite understand how a website works.

visits + banners = money

Lots of comments don’t equal lots of visits though. This item may have the most comments of all on the frontpage, it wasn’t the most visited one though.

For example, the CanAm GPL item had more hits but it wasn’t as controversial so there were less comments. Only a tiny fraction of all readers even leave comments…

So, this “soap opera” as you´ve called it may entertain some people, it did not have a a big effect on the visitor numbers though. Mainly because the discussion was going on between a handful of people only.

According to me better if you accept it h. you make repeated accusations unduly and you ask an apology sompir.
Or they liked traveling?
because if you do not ask an apology then you come onto Budapest

Why an apology to sompir when we have proof that my texture has been stolen? Stop this nosense please…

F1RFT people, please STOP spamming rFC with screenshots on pages where they don’t belong. If you claim that you’re legal, make a WIP page and keep your screenshots there. It’s not like screenshot spamming will get you more fans.

HSW Hungarian SimWorld (Xabi):
http://www.hsw.hu/index.php?headlinesid=14176
Almost everybody is speaking about it. Yesterday a well-known website has deleted the F1RFT 2009 mod renders from their site by FSOne’s request, who shared them sreenshots, pointing that Sompir used FSOne’s job without permissions.
We are so sad, that with a simple picture, and with the use of a simulator website someone can tell it for an in progress mod, or addon, that it’s illegal.
We are so sad, that with a it an amazing game, and two great mods, get a bad advertisement. In stead of the fact, that we have our opinion about it, we don’t want to enter into this debate. Our task is to inform HSW visitors of the upcoming mods, tracks, addons, etc., and we will continoue it.
So in the future you’ll can find FSOne, and F1RFT previews too, and to give you more information about it, soon you will find an interview with the F1RFT 2009′s author, Sompir (and with the FSOne creators too, if they agree it).

did not steal your texture but obtained them from the internet.
the crash helmet is totally different.
From Google!!!: http://cache.formula1.com/photos/597×478/schlegelmilch/2009/0902-0021.jpg

and the process: http://f1rft.net/2009/loading/kormany.jpg

lol

just lol

Since almost all F1RFT members and followers have found their way here (welcome btw.), I´m really wondering why nobody bothers to share any proof that the texture isn’t stolen or at least promise to replace the stolen texture.

That’s all it would take. You don’t have to be sad about anything, F1RFT is welcome here if you clean up your act or supply proof that the texture wasn’t stolen.

That will help you, posting endless comments won’t.

why lol?

ok here’s your 106th record breaking post.

Amazing to have all this discussion over an LED screen though.
I understand its about the principal of copying work and not the LED screen itself.

This could have been battered out in a couple of hours on an IRC channel.

Dear little so loved GGSF1!

You don’t have any proof, but we have( let’ take a lokk at the pictures whith your glasses), you are grudging,and yes i think you have fear from concurrency. Thats not the clear way, which you use. This goes years ago. Ass likers like you GGSF1. Try to abase good modifications with unreal accusations to get better position in the world of simulators. Thats disgusting.

Thats what I think about FSONE’s batboys.

good guy: you are envious

@F1Racer: Well at least for me the main point of this discussion is make people know that RFT (members and fans) are a bunch of liers.

Look here: http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/4791/dashn.jpg
It is obvious that you can’t take a picture and turn it into my texture unless you are a magician. I did some things of the texture without any measure, just guessing positions and such. So tell me how sompir put the LEDs in the exact same position. Also, if you have the FSOne mod you can extract the DASBOARD.DDS texture and compare by yourself.

Better position in world of simulators? Look at the rFactor Central ratings. Which is the best rated F1 mod? And where’s RFT? Enough said…

And yes, I wear glasses. I prefer contact lenses though.

ENVIUOS FOR LIKING ASSES
no thanks I like girls.YOU ARE IN BETTER POSITION IN YOUR ASS LIKER SIGHT, but not in reality, look at last years server list. 100 F1 RFT 2008V3.1, 10 FSONE
ANY Questions?……….

OMG LOL … http://rfactorcentral.com/screenshots.cfm FFS stops this bullshit fucktards.

this is getting silly.

Ricky:
did not steal your texture but obtained them from the internet.
the crash helmet is totally different.
From Google!!!: http://cache.formula1.com/photos/597×478/schlegelmilch/2009/0902-0021.jpg
and the process: http://f1rft.net/2009/loading/kormany.jpg

Are you serious! Anyone with the basic understanding of taking a piece photo and removing distortion and making it a texture understands that the end result wont look like it’s fully reproduced with a graphics software. And not to mention look EXACTLY like someone elses fully reproduced version. I’m rarely this outspoken, but you must be really stupid to try to make us believe that.

the fsone is licking the rFC’s ass,because of that only outside the fsone on the rFC.
more people use it the F1RFT mods by Sompir.

teroD -accept the truth that sompir does not steal

If you ask me, and no-one has, all F1 mods apart from CTDP’s 2006 season are crap. Even CTDP 2005 isn’t very close to 2006 season quality in the areas that matter most, physics.

I wouldn’t even use a virtual stick to touch the other F1 mods.

this not evidence: http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/4791/dashn.jpg
I ask it then what your evidence?

Ricky:
teroD -accept the truth that sompir does not steal

It’s kinda hard to accept the truth when there’s evidence against it.

@Ricky: If this is not evidence what is evidence?

Secondly, if rFactor Central would favour FSOne as most RFT fans say here, FSOne would be Hall of Fame, and it isn’t (although it should be)

this not evidence because this is on the network!!!

Ok, the language barrier is making this a lot more confusing than it should be. I’ve said all I need to say on the matter.

How to make your own evidence:
1 -Download FSOne 2008 mod
2 – Open FSOne 2008 DASHBOARD.DDS file which is in FSOneComun.MAS
3 – Compare with the texture which Sompir posted in F1RFT website.
4 – Now you know that I always have been right.

How to make your own evidence:
1. Download a Brawn steering wheel
2. cut it out the DASHBOARD part
3. paste on the your own wheel

AND DOSE NOT COPY FROM BULLSHIT FSONE MOD

Ricky:
AND DOSE NOT COPY FROM BULLSHIT FSONE MOD

I think this has gone far enough. Can someone PLEASE put an end to this senseless argument? It’s getting annoying and we’re getting down to a flame war. And since there is a language barrier, the point can’t come across for the two parties.

Oh, how I wish sometimes to be able to punch a person through my computer screen…

hey guys why not you rent a motel room and get raped each other?

Okay, since nobody seems to have anything to say that would continue this discussion in a constructive manner, I´d say 125 comments are enough.