And on the burning subject – I also have snap oversteer problem… No matter how hard I work on the setup…I agree that something must be wrong… If on default setup most cars are almost undrivable, then you must assume something is not right…

riches: Just do a hundred laps with every car to learn how to drive them.
Than give comments.

No thanks, I didnt have to spend 2 hours with every car in iracing or nkp so I could learn how to not randomly spin out. Same goes with the top mods in rfactor like the Supra, C6R from team players, historix, etc.

I havent complained about this too much because
a) Im a sucker for GT cars!
b) simple solution is to not push too hard. With the current physics the loss of grip is very abrupt at a certain threshold but until that point the cars seem fairly stable. So you get one hell of a surprise when you’re facing the wrong way all of a sudden
c) I dont care much for TC but I know enduracers were quite insistent on this mod being driven with TC on. I’m guessing that probably has something to do with it as well
d) In a way, this mod makes you drive more “realistically” by penalising you for the simplest mistake. We all know simracers are more likely to take risks than the real life counterparts and with this I find you have to be extra careful. The difference ofcourse is that in reality you’re worried about demolishing your car/self and with this mod its more to do with the cars being unstable and having unpredictable behaviour near the limit….

BlackM: I dont use TC nor blips. I am driving CTDP 06 50% of my time, WTCC 35% and evrything else 15% of my time in front of wheel so I’m not used to do blip. Going to tray this

BlackM… What WTCC do you run? Race On or which rFactor mod? Thanks

stabiz: 64/36 wa

I dont use TC nor blips. I am driving CTDP 06 50% of my time, WTCC 35% and evrything else 15% of my time in front of wheel so I’m not used to do blip. Going to tray this

The blipping of the throttle helps when braking because you need that extra assistance of mechanial braking to counteract the oversensitve 100% brake pressure setting that you cannot alter.
The car tends to snake around a lot under braking and then if its still doing that by the time you reach the corner, forget turning in because you’ll end up facing the other way.

The problem can occurr at any of the 3 points in a corner. Turn-in, apex, exit
Turn-in is most common for the car not just to lose grip (and yes some are catchable) but to swap ends altogether.
I had an incident in Imola where I took a corner and as I was exiting it just before I was going to straighten the wheel out, it went. I cannot explain why.
I am using no TC btw.

I’m not saying its undriveable. Its just tricky when its like this and very annoying. I did Fraps a couple of moments where this is happening but I feel if I showed them I would just get flak from people using other reasons as excuses or criticising my driving as an excuse.
Yet, I don’t have issues with the GT1’s, the P1’s or the P2’s and I dont have this behaviour with any other Porsche in any other Porsche mod…. well any other mode really except that CTDP06 had a rear end issue, and that was fixed by altering rear camber.
Sadly, in this mod, softening the rear, adding more wing or messing with tyre pressures isnt really making any difference.
In fact putting the brake balance forward to 64/36 was what eased the turn-in issue a bit (doesn’t help mid corner though) but any more and the settings then get unrealistic and that would also prove that something is wrong.

Anyway, Ive stated my opinion, its a waste of time because clearly the mod makers are entirely happy so it wont be getting looked at never mind fixed, so I’m done with this.

DeDios: F1 driver,i’m not a setup guru,

Not a guru at other peoples nicknames either

so..if needs i can give you my setup (not here, maybe in RSC) but, i’m shure you can easily try to do yourself a good setup. Personally i start each time working on aero load (so, if you are not in Monza, i can tell you use a lot of load). Second, i work on front and rear bar (dunno if is it correct in English ). This is extremely subjective, depends if you like oversteer or undesteer, and of course depends where you’re driving.
After this i work on springs, camber, and of course gear ratio and others stuff.

Yeah I kinda know the principles of setting up the cars, but thanks.
I did already go through all this before I realised something wasn’t right.
While we’re at it, the inability to adjust brake pressure isnt helping.
Im not saying that it should be enabled even if in real life they don’t adjust that, but merely because I don’t agree that their version of 100% pressure doesn’t agree with me and I`d like to be able to have it where more than half pedal travel doesn’t make the car skate around like a fish.

DeDios: Nitro, really, i don’t know why some guys here like you found this mod “undriveable” ;) I’m not a funboy or similar, i only tell the truth.I don have absolutely no problems regarding grip, and i drive at 99% the Porsche 997RSR. I did thousands of laps, using RealFFB AND TC (somethimes medium or full, it depends where i’m driving).I don’t use default setup, i spend each track a lot of time on setup, specially on springs, camber, and aero (depends, in similar tracks i use a similar baseline, and i work somethimes with Motec for see where i do errors).Some guys in old discussions (don’t remember the name) says this is not important, but for me yes, is definetly the key to go fast on track. With default setup, in some tracks i can’t push hard (obviusly), but..studying a good setup you can drive fast without problems.I’m really sorry but i don’t see this problem regarding tires (lol somethimes i need to work because i feel too much grip!! XD)

Whoa cuz, take it easy . I said I thought maybe something was wrong with my game, not the mod remember…. BUT, if I HAVE to work on the default setup before the cars feel more like a race car, then true enough, this mod is not for me. But, there must be something wrong with the install.

stabiz:
Unlike you I have never driven a real life 996/997, so I cant comment on the realistic/unsafe bit, all I am saying is that I dont experience what you are experiencing.

Well there ya go. When I drove the real life 996 and 997 on a track I can tell you that it never once spun out on me, and that is without TC (as I drive it in-game, do you ?).
The 997 was quite samey but a little quicker and meatier. 5 laps of that thing at Donington was quite a ride let me tell ya. So as an experienced Porsche 996/997 race driver such as me, you can now take it from me that I am right and you are wrong and the mod should be corrected accordingly if it wants to attain a high level of credibility in the community.

BTW, it is true when they say sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.

N.B. For the sake of the gullible or uninformed, I have not driven a real 996 or 997, but nevertheless I do drive in real life and I don’t hang around either so I kinda have an idea of what is and isnt out of character in terms of a cars behaviour.
I don’t need to experience it to know fundamental rights and wrongs.

DeDios, perhaps you could post this amazing setup of yours so that I may try it.
I would love to be proved wrong on this so that I can get on and enjoy what is otherwise a great mod. Right now, its flawed and that flaw is letting it down regardless of whether everyone has the problem or not.

I’m really sorry but i don’t see this problem regarding tires (lol somethimes i need to work because i feel too much grip!! XD)

stabiz:
Unlike you I have never driven a real life 996/997, so I cant comment on the realistic/unsafe bit, all I am saying is that I dont experience what you are experiencing.

here is the same.

F1Racer: Its unrealistic for those kind of cars to let go in that manner.
We’re not talking about sliding here either.Its a car having grip in a corner then letting go for no apparent reason as if its hit a patch of oil or something.I hope you don’t think that by saying you have no problems and that slides are catchable that therefor there is no problem and the physics on those cars must be right.

Unlike you I have never driven a real life 996/997, so I cant comment on the realistic/unsafe bit, all I am saying is that I dont experience what you are experiencing.