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		<title>By: [GC]Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/codemasters-promises-full-simulation/comment-page-1#comment-11756</link>
		<dc:creator>[GC]Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toca race driver - the real RACING simulator, not driving</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toca race driver &#8211; the real RACING simulator, not driving</p>
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		<title>By: jeremy</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/codemasters-promises-full-simulation/comment-page-1#comment-11749</link>
		<dc:creator>jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>please let it be realistic...enjoy the muscle cars around san fran in grid and the visuals are stunning but the rest is just on rails trash for ten year olds.....please codies</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>please let it be realistic&#8230;enjoy the muscle cars around san fran in grid and the visuals are stunning but the rest is just on rails trash for ten year olds&#8230;..please codies</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Ellis</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/codemasters-promises-full-simulation/comment-page-1#comment-5987</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Ellis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 07:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Codemasters TOCA series was always intended to be an arcade title&quot;

http://www.bhmotorsports.com/sims/RDRIV2/screenshots/1.jpg

Read the watermark. Thats right. TOCA Race Driver 2 was the &quot;Ultimate Racing Simulation&quot;. Could have fooled me. Wasn&#039;t a simulation and it sure as hell wasn&#039;t the ultimate at anything. But 1 out of 3 isn&#039;t too bad I guess.

Let us move onto TOCA Race Driver 3s screenshots.

http://www.bhmotorsports.com/sims/RD3/screenshots/2.jpg

Oh, the game didn&#039;t have this did it? 

Codemasters record for telling the truth in pre-release PR Stuff so far has been around 0% as far as simulations are concerned. Perhaps this F1 &quot;sim&quot; will be different, but this is a boy who cried wolf scenario and I&#039;m not going to give the benefit of the doubt to any company claiming TOCA RD2 was the &quot;Ultimate Racing Simulation&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Codemasters TOCA series was always intended to be an arcade title&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bhmotorsports.com/sims/RDRIV2/screenshots/1.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.bhmotorsports.com/sims/RDRIV2/screenshots/1.jpg</a></p>
<p>Read the watermark. Thats right. TOCA Race Driver 2 was the &#8220;Ultimate Racing Simulation&#8221;. Could have fooled me. Wasn&#8217;t a simulation and it sure as hell wasn&#8217;t the ultimate at anything. But 1 out of 3 isn&#8217;t too bad I guess.</p>
<p>Let us move onto TOCA Race Driver 3s screenshots.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bhmotorsports.com/sims/RD3/screenshots/2.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.bhmotorsports.com/sims/RD3/screenshots/2.jpg</a></p>
<p>Oh, the game didn&#8217;t have this did it? </p>
<p>Codemasters record for telling the truth in pre-release PR Stuff so far has been around 0% as far as simulations are concerned. Perhaps this F1 &#8220;sim&#8221; will be different, but this is a boy who cried wolf scenario and I&#8217;m not going to give the benefit of the doubt to any company claiming TOCA RD2 was the &#8220;Ultimate Racing Simulation&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Stu</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/codemasters-promises-full-simulation/comment-page-1#comment-5941</link>
		<dc:creator>Stu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 13:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to laugh, you guys sdo realise Codemasters TOCA series was always intended to be an arcade title, only the first two editions had a sim leaning.

GT5P has shown a console sim can be a match for rfactor and GTR2, IF that is what the developers are aiming for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to laugh, you guys sdo realise Codemasters TOCA series was always intended to be an arcade title, only the first two editions had a sim leaning.</p>
<p>GT5P has shown a console sim can be a match for rfactor and GTR2, IF that is what the developers are aiming for.</p>
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		<title>By: jam</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/codemasters-promises-full-simulation/comment-page-1#comment-5938</link>
		<dc:creator>jam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 10:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ahaha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ahaha</p>
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		<title>By: no1</title>
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		<dc:creator>no1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 02:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol@crapmasters  :shock:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol@crapmasters  <img src='http://www.virtualr.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':shock:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: scca1981</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/codemasters-promises-full-simulation/comment-page-1#comment-5922</link>
		<dc:creator>scca1981</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 02:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a full sim from codemasters?


lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a full sim from codemasters?</p>
<p>lol.</p>
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		<title>By: stabiz</title>
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		<dc:creator>stabiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, tigertails, I didn`t know Codemasters fanboys existed. Now, leave the internet, you are pulling down the average IQ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, tigertails, I didn`t know Codemasters fanboys existed. Now, leave the internet, you are pulling down the average IQ.</p>
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		<title>By: austin</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/codemasters-promises-full-simulation/comment-page-1#comment-5912</link>
		<dc:creator>austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A reciept for a good F1 game= rebadge Rfactor or GTR2 with 2009 F1 cars and tracks = Money in teh bank 

arcade fanboys will be amazed at how realistic it is</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A reciept for a good F1 game= rebadge Rfactor or GTR2 with 2009 F1 cars and tracks = Money in teh bank </p>
<p>arcade fanboys will be amazed at how realistic it is</p>
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		<title>By: tigertails</title>
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		<dc:creator>tigertails</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stabiz, you are a fucking twat.</description>
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		<title>By: stabiz</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/codemasters-promises-full-simulation/comment-page-1#comment-5905</link>
		<dc:creator>stabiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CTDP 06 is out soonish, so I`m not gonna cry when Coderookies realease a really bad F1-game, which they will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CTDP 06 is out soonish, so I`m not gonna cry when Coderookies realease a really bad F1-game, which they will.</p>
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		<title>By: ted f1 driver</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/codemasters-promises-full-simulation/comment-page-1#comment-5903</link>
		<dc:creator>ted f1 driver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i dont think codemaaster gona do great f1 games grid was crap rally game was crap so i think new formula one licens gona be crap from codermaster i hope they do great joob but i dont thay can make it cya all and seyya  rfactor on line mmg f1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i dont think codemaaster gona do great f1 games grid was crap rally game was crap so i think new formula one licens gona be crap from codermaster i hope they do great joob but i dont thay can make it cya all and seyya  rfactor on line mmg f1</p>
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		<title>By: JJ</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualr.net/codemasters-promises-full-simulation/comment-page-1#comment-5894</link>
		<dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So now they should start a forum for us hardcore simmers for a start &amp; really start listening...get a rep from the dev team to start the ball rolling on the communication then we&#039;ll see.... :neutral:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So now they should start a forum for us hardcore simmers for a start &amp; really start listening&#8230;get a rep from the dev team to start the ball rolling on the communication then we&#8217;ll see&#8230;. <img src='http://www.virtualr.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif' alt=':neutral:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: F1Racer</title>
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		<dc:creator>F1Racer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, I think they&#039;re worth another chance. 
Now they have the F1 licence, I hope they really do realise that they can&#039;t just pump out some arcade trash.
Theres money in the sim market too, so splitting sim and arcade modes is the best way to go.
Of course if they blow it with an F1 title, then we can drag them down afterwards.  No good doing it before we even see a screenshot.
I&#039;m going to keep an open mind for now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, I think they&#8217;re worth another chance.<br />
Now they have the F1 licence, I hope they really do realise that they can&#8217;t just pump out some arcade trash.<br />
Theres money in the sim market too, so splitting sim and arcade modes is the best way to go.<br />
Of course if they blow it with an F1 title, then we can drag them down afterwards.  No good doing it before we even see a screenshot.<br />
I&#8217;m going to keep an open mind for now.</p>
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		<title>By: Moura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They have a very good Engine, just need a good team for made a very good simulation, I trust in Codemaster :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They have a very good Engine, just need a good team for made a very good simulation, I trust in Codemaster :)</p>
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		<title>By: MistaMcGoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>MistaMcGoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...will get a completely different treatment from our in-house team...

A team that wouldn&#039;t be able to recognize a proper driving sim enen if they&#039;d be ran over by it lol. 

Just like toca race driver&#039;s subtitle &quot;the ultimate racing simulator&quot;. It didn&#039;t even have friggin qualify, and the ai could only keep up by &quot;catchup cheating&quot; ! let alone the total crap physics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;will get a completely different treatment from our in-house team&#8230;</p>
<p>A team that wouldn&#8217;t be able to recognize a proper driving sim enen if they&#8217;d be ran over by it lol. </p>
<p>Just like toca race driver&#8217;s subtitle &#8220;the ultimate racing simulator&#8221;. It didn&#8217;t even have friggin qualify, and the ai could only keep up by &#8220;catchup cheating&#8221; ! let alone the total crap physics.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Gilmore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan Gilmore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I smell bulls**t. I would love to be proven wrong... but highly doubt it.</description>
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		<title>By: krs</title>
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		<dc:creator>krs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have heard them say exactly the same regarding race driver series - the ultimate racing simulator....
Maybe they doesnt know what simulation means,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have heard them say exactly the same regarding race driver series &#8211; the ultimate racing simulator&#8230;.<br />
Maybe they doesnt know what simulation means,</p>
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		<title>By: gtrNL</title>
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		<dc:creator>gtrNL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure I like to see SimBin getting the license, but since they don´t I think this will be any good. Sure this guy says that Grid was meant for the arcade player, but they also said that is was on GTR2 kind of realism levels, yeah right. I like to see them prove me wrong, but I don´t think they will...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure I like to see SimBin getting the license, but since they don´t I think this will be any good. Sure this guy says that Grid was meant for the arcade player, but they also said that is was on GTR2 kind of realism levels, yeah right. I like to see them prove me wrong, but I don´t think they will&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Humpfester</title>
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		<dc:creator>Humpfester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>History has a way of repeating itself @ Codemasters and they really need to work on the FFB issues before I&#039;ll fall for their rhetoric. :roll:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>History has a way of repeating itself @ Codemasters and they really need to work on the FFB issues before I&#8217;ll fall for their rhetoric. <img src='http://www.virtualr.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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