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The ultimate wait.

At the very least – the wait will be worth it.

Interestingly it actually says technology preview on the screen shot.

and the track sure looks like Magione, so I reckon that’s it.

It’s actually a pretty good choice for a demo car. Good looking, fast but not too much, can be driven in many styles, great choice.

Is it………No one knows how the modding system will work, no one knows how online will work, no one knows how Ai will work, yet it’s the ultimate sim…lmao….neeeext.

You sound shocked. They mentioned the preview car was changed to a lightweight sportscar, which of the announced cars it either was a Lotus or the X-bow. Given they wouldn’t put something like the 2-Eleven or Exige in because it’s a top tier type car with supreme performance people are interested in, the plain ol’ Elise always seemed like the one it’d be.

Thank god it isn’t the Abarth.

Seeing how NKP and FVA are both leaps and bounds more believable than any other simulator when it comes to on the limit driving , FFB , and overall nature of how the cars handle.

Its not a stretch of the imagination to think that AC will be at worse as good as ether of them.

Just a question, have you tried the 458 Challenge in FVA before? easily one of the most enjoyable sim experience I’ve ever had. Right up there with my DRM 2.0 and GSC Mini sim experiences.

Let’s hope it’ll drive better then the gt5 one :O

Ha, awesome – my real-life car :D

just mentioning gt5 in the same context as a Kunos sim made me lol

Yeah, because Matrix was a good movie, Matrix 2 also was. And the second Lord of the Rings was a fantastic movie, wasn’t it?

But hey, believers gonna believe :)

Teasing is a good marketing tool. But to tease for that long is not good. Give us the tech preview or don’t show anything!

Haters gonna hate, whiners gonna whine, racers gonna wait.

“Assetto Corsa will be available in Q1 2013″
Ehm….6 weeks to go guys :)
The fact that VR has to copie there own text (DX11 graphics bla….tech demo in a few weeks….) again and again is not a good sign IMO.
But maybe im wrong…

I am futurologist. That’s the fact.

Nah, it’s only prequals you should fear… And those don’t happen in games so we’re good.

Have to agree. For ‘teasing’, now read ‘tedium’.

Nobody is forcing you to come over to AC.

You can stay at iRacing, where as someone so eloquently put the other day (before his post was deleted by the 1984 style moderation) – There are more people posting about how iRacing is the best sim on the forums than actually racing it competitively in sessions.

At this point they know what day they’ll be releasing the Tech Preview. Just let people know. They’ve said they want to release a demo as well before the actual release. Q1 is over in a month and a half and given the speed of the Tech Preview release I would bet good money the game won’t be finished (v1.0) until Q2.

To all questioning my post, take your blinkers off, I’m not referring to the physic, I mentioned features that are new to Kunos, Ai’s, Modding & working on line code, I know physics might be good, but the rest is questionable, how can it be the ultimate, if theses features are new to them, and yes I support Kunos & all sim developers. :)

Hmmm DX11 or not but if I wouldn’t know it I’d say it’s iRacing.

I’m not questioning Kunos physics, why don’t people read & understand before commenting….read again what I said in my first post :) http://i.imgur.com/roqzTA5.gif

i just noticed allot of people have a crystal ball. I should get me one myself i guess..:-)

Netkar Pro is extremely good, FVA is complete crap. If you think they are both the same just because they are both based on the same engine than it just shows how much you dont know (and continue to prove on this site) about physics and handling. FVA just feels good because it uses Netkar Pro’s brilliant physics and ffb engine, but the actual handling model in FVA is so dumbed down compared to Netkar Pro, its pretty pathetic actually.

AC has a lot to live up to to match the road car simulation level of GT5.

I have driven many fast cars IRL on tracks and drifted many of them (Corvette Z06, Ferrari F430, F458, BMW M3, M5 and M6, Lambo LP560-4, Porsche Cayman R etc).

I have not driven any sim on any hardware during the past 15 years that is more accurate than GT5 when it comes to road cars. The under, oversteer chassie balance and the steering is extremely accurate for each individual car. Weight transfers under braking

Track times on Nurburgring and Top Gear track are extremely close to real life as well, something no other sim has ever managed to do anywhear near as accurately.

I’m really hoping that AC will be the PC sim that takes the crown in road car simulation from GT5 when it comes to accuracy and chasie dynamics! There is nothing im looking forwards to more! :-)

It will be excellent to have the Elise to play around with until the first complete release! :-)

Really looking forward to my first lap!

Watch and learn from Stefano himself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijvih-97-IA&feature=player_embedded#!

FVA is crap?? Any credibility you might have had just went out the window….

Wow nice vid, and easy to understand when subtitles are enabled, this should open ‘sim racers’ eyes, to where Assetto Corsa is heading, Great video Avecezar, and check this picture out.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8094/8476043903_3347b5864f_o.jpg

Actually they said they will release it when it is ready….could be tomorrow, could be next week, could be next month…Seems to me that there is alot of people that don’t care how buggy or broken something is as long as there is a release date they can count down to…Waiting sucks but its not like Kunos owes the tech preview to anybody..

It might not release until the holidays and if that makes a percentage of people so mad they refuse to buy it, well such is life.

I’m so glad I didn’t take my boots off before reading that Roger. Let me guess, you had a different supermodel in each car while drifting them.

Just trying to get people to calm down about the dates they’ve given as they aren’t very good at hitting them.

Believe me when I say I’m more excited about this game than any other in development.

I didn’t really mean to direct that post entirely to you EZ…I’m going half crazy waiting myself but it seems alot of people act like Kunos is purposely lying to them when a release date gets missed.

You don’t have to take my word for it, here are two videos example videos.

Corvette Z06 back in 2006 when it was new (I sat in the car the first time litterary a few minutes before this video was shot, the “track” is also very narrow):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAoVfudlt_w

BMW M6 two summers ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e999YJqDYvI

shocked? You’re reading a lot into one sentence which is just a statement of fact :-)

This is starting 2 feel a bit GT5ish…the wait….the horror….

So AC wants to get gamers from the simcade genre?
Must be shocking for all the fanboys and hardcore simracers who use simcade as a flame. Reality hurts.

Can you post the graph that confirms this?

When you say…..

“I have not driven any sim on any hardware during the past 15 years that is more accurate than GT5 when it comes to road cars.”

That could be interpreted as you are aware of other sims that are more accurate than GT5, just that you haven’t driven on them during the past 15 years, lol.

DO NOT WANT!

. . . to wait

Once iracing introduced driving aids that showed that there is not enough of a hardcore market to be financially viable. Can’t imagine how bad reality will hurt you if AC is successful.

Either way, there should be plenty of people on xbox live you can play pcars with so not really sure why you are so intimidated by AC?

I agree! This is getting boring now enough of teases it’s becoming counterproductive now and come back with the tech preview or the final product.

2056 racers online at primetime Friday night, and another snow system is coming into the north east again… Draw your own conclusions. Majority of those drivers are “online” which can mean they left their browser open or are in the forums.

That’s one of the dumbest analogies I’ve ever heard.

No, this is far worse. GT5 only missed one release date. They didn’t say when it would be released until mid 2010, they missed the original 11/2 release date but only by 10 days
The tech demo was supposed to be out in september. And considering we’re comparing a full game with a demo, I think this is far worse.
This is almost as bad as iracing’s pathetic delay of the lotus 49.

Welcome to the world according to Ott

No, he’s right. I’ve mostly only driven road cars on tracks, and GT5 was amazingly accurate to those road cars. I drove 2 different Evo’s and WRX’s, a SRT10 Viper, and a modified Chevelle on the track, all of those cars are in GT5. Sure, a lot of sims don’t have those same road cars but of the sims that do, none came even close to GT5 and that includes rFactor, GTR, and any other console games. Overall obviously GT5 isn’t as realistic as netkar or iracing but they really do road cars well, that’s the truth. And the chevelle had slicks on it, and the sports medium tires in GT5 were very comparable but most of all, the chevelle in GT5 fealt very accurate to real life.
I can tell just by your comments that you don’t have any experience with GT5 or racing road cars, so don’t knock it before you try it.
Roger’s correct.

So the Chevelle on medium sports tires in bumper cam felt more true to a real life “modified” Chevelle on slicks than any other computer sim that has a modified chevelle in it (which I can’t think of any)

Can’t imagine why I would feel your opinion is worthless.

I am not really happy about this. :(

The physics handling is still overly bland and simplified in gt5 despite how natural some of the roadcar understeer and drifting may feel. When really pushing a car you can really feel how bland and simple the handling is, where as in most of the pc sims you are constantly makin hundreds of little micro corrections as the physics are soooooo much more complex and dynamic, you can just feel a much much deeper and more complex variability in most pc sims compared to gt5, gt5 does do a good job getting the basic level understeer and oversteer on road cars though sure.

It seems the technology preview will be available for download within next week. Car: lotus Elise, track: Magione.

Yes and there’s going to be some unhappy people, as the tec demo will only be available to those that have a copy of Nkpro.
Just like rf2 & pcars, I can wait until all products are gold. :)

If you are referring to the controller in the picture, and watched the video Avecezar linked, Kunos does say they want to sell alot of copies, that means to those who play Granturismo & Forza motorsports as well as those that play rfactor & iracing, it is still a pc exclusive sim.

Epic reply!

I guess u r right. GT5 didn’t missed its release date by that much. But still it was a horrific wait.

Why be unhappy? Just buy the licence if you really cant wait for the gold version. There is still alot of work that goes into a preview so why should they work for free? What you can argue is that its perhapse not the best marketing idea if they want to spread the game, althou the era of the free demo is truly over so perhapse we should just be glad we have a chance to try it at all before release…to me thats worth 14,90€…;)

Making a hardcore sim play like an arcade game is not hard, its making an arcage game play like a sim thats hard..;)

It will be great if the tech preview is modable :-D

I agree that some PC sims feels more “urgent” in feedback, like GTR and the sim bin series and to some extent rFactor. But that urgency is more suitable to race cars than road-cars. Road cars do have a much “softer” and forgiving feel to them in steering response and weight transfers, very accurately represented in GT5.

My personal view after driving many of the cars fast in real life including drifting them = pushing to and beyond the limit GT5 has for each car the most accurate simulation of any software or hardware i have driven.

The most stunning fact is that GT5 not only feels right, it produces accurate lap times compared to real-life which no other sim does as far as i know.

Here are a few examples (there are LOTS on youtube):

1. Two Mazda Miatas on Laguna Seca (both within 0.1 second accurate) – The driver did the real-laps and the lap in GT5:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31bH2t2X95g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dmiqeTjTKQ

2. Nissan GTR Top Gear track (within 0.3 seconds)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Cz3e6RZ5Lg

3. Ford GT on Top Gear track (within 0.4 seconds)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttyM4kZql3A

Even ~8 minute laptimes on the Nurbrurgring are extremely accurate!

I have done a lot of benchmarking as well myself and pretty much all cars post VERY close to real-life lap times (100% stock car in GT5 vs stock car IRL)

You could choose to interpret it that way, but i would not concider something to be more or less realistic before driving it

On the PC i have driven extensively: Papy GPL, Nascar series, rFactor 1 & 2 with lots of mods like DRM, Histor-X, Game Stock Car, sim bins GTR and Race series and R3E closed and open beta, pCars, Kunos Netcar PRO/Ferrari VA, Dirt series, Richard Burns Rally, F1 2011 and 2012 etc. The only major sim i havent driven yet is iRacing.

On consoles mainly: GT4, GT5, Forza 3 & 4

I drive both PC and consoles on the same rig with a customized Fanatec CSR Elite wheel with an OMP Superleggera 320mm GT rim inverted Clubsport v2 pedals etc.

You didn’t get my point.
Read it again.

Lap times means nothing, there are so much variables on real life that are not repruduced on a sim. Do you want to match “real life lap times”? Increase or decrease tire grip until times are close…mission complete.

You’re opinion, which I respect.

The wait is maybe months, AC will remain for years, or even forever as long as Kunos update it and sim racers drive it, and it should be quite enjoyable :) . The wait is little in comparison.

I just don’t get it…

Either there is complaint that there is too little news, now there are complaints that there is too much updates!?!?

AC is currently the most anticipated item in my life over the next few months, i appreciate the constant stream of updates. Either is tech videos, facebook posts or new screenshots and videos!

In this update we got to know that the tech preview will contain the Lotus Elise (which is great news to me), how can you complain!?

The tech preview and the full first version will come when its ready (and most likely VERY soon!).

We’ll see :) . To be honest I don’t expect ‘that much’ as well, at least not from the first version where they need to get physics / handling, online / AI right as well as graphics / sound and content. So as far as I can see version 1.0 will be “perfect” (as much as it can be) and then refined and features added.

It’s like they would have remade Matrix 2 for years until it’s perfect. But that’s not how movies are made… once everything is captured and the CG is done, they try to make the best out of the material they got. Can’t say after 3 months, let’s redo all major scenes. But that’s exactly what the evolutionary process in sim development is about.

In GT5 there are standard tire compounds you can choose from. Im not sure if they fiddeled with the stock compound to make it accurate vs the real-life counterpart, that is quite possible.

If they did and still manage to get each car feel as accurate as it is handling wise and get track times (different tracks and different car combinations) close to reality that in my view is a good tactic. If the car and track are accurately modeled there should only be a small amount of “grip adjustment” needed.

I could buy that the lap times are real due to grip tuning for each car as a simple excuse if it was single car and track, then you can make “hardcodes” get it to match just like you say, but in fact there are 100′s of cars and 10′s of track and pretty much all combinations produces realistic lap times and realistic car handling.

Come on, for how long did we wait for rFactor 2? For several years and it’s not even gold yet. It’s only some 1 year since the announcement of Assetto Corsa.

I am glad for every preview, picture or video, we get. Or would you rather like to wait in total silence?

AC is surely one of the most anticipated computer games generally of my life.

Yeah, silence till it appears (the TP). It goes like this, I look on here everyday for news (not just AC related)…I see a new AC/TP teaser picture, my heart skips a beat thinking the TP is out, only to be let down again. I just can’t take much more do you hear me (lol).

Must be sad inside your head.. hope your hi-res textures help you sleep after your daily trolling on simulation forums

I wouldn’t if I were you. They make a noise when you sit down ;)

Perhaps you should explain your point ? I know it hurts to do :)

UK Readers can get nKPro for under £5 at Game Store In stock
http://www.game.co.uk/en/nkpro-racing-187819?pageSize=20&categoryIdentifier=348203 And get access to the tec demo

Maybe he’s just disappointed after NkP? I think the FVA is a bit “adjusted”, also full set-up isn’t available so you basically drive one that fits all which isn’t ideal. I wouldn’t necessarily call that dumbed down though.

In AC they will have accessable cars, I mean, cars which are fun to drive and have a good learning curve in real as well , so I guess there won’t be any adjustments necessary.

I have nothing against Kunos and AC, but sincerely I’m fed up with those teasers :(

Once version 1.0 is released there will be a proper demo…probably like Netkar Pro where you download the game, get to demo one car at one track and once you purchase you will get a key to unlock full game. Tech Preview is an early taste for Netkar owners that also helps the dev team test the software on thousands of different pc’s.
The era of the free demo that comes out before the game might be over but there will still be a free demo.

I think everyone who does not already own nKPRO should buy it to donate 15€ to Kunos for developing what might just be the most anticipated PC car sim ever!?

They are at least ticking all my wishlist boxes in their designs, we will know within the next week or so if its all hype or if we have a game changer on our hands!

WOW, I just drive NetKarPRO for a few hours… I have only driven Ferrari VA prior and nKPRO at some events.

nKPRO is in my view the most realistic handling simulation so far for race cars… The feel of the car while in transition between over and understeer and the progression of oversteer is the most realistic in any simulation i tried. The FF is excellent as well, second to only rF2.

This is very true !

I’m defiantly optimistic about AC though , we shall see when it comes out , if its as bad as the later matrix films I will go swim in the north sea.

Yep I think that’s the crux of it I don’t think people really doubt that AC will have top class physics its everything else that’s up in the air at the moment.

Your points about the other aspects of FVA are totally valid , Personally I’m not commenting on them as we know nothing about them Its amusing how again and again people fail to read what you actually said.

Should AC not have the full feature set within a reasonable time frame then what happened with NKP could happen Again.