Assetto Corsa – “A Taste of AI” Coming Tomorrow

The next update for Assetto Corsa’s Early Access beta is due to be released tomorrow, introducing a first look at the title’s AI.

As confirmed by Kunos Simulazioni’s Aris Vasilakos, the new version will give everyone a taste of the AI in Assetto Corsa:

For this first AI update, we won’t give you the complete grid AI enabled. There will only be some special events quick races, with some cars on some tracks that will give you a taste as I said of Ai races.

I know that everybody wants the full monty, but I’m also sure that you understand that we need to test the performance of the AI on various systems, check for bugs, improve it and so on. It is far easier for us to do so on some specific scenarios, than having to control the whole Assetto Corsa grid at once.

Alongside the first look at the AI, the new version will introduce some new cars and other features like an improved tire model as well.

GTOmegaRacing.com

  • Anonymous

    cant wait, tomorrow will be a good day :)

  • Szilárd Hompoth

    I don’t mind, but I hope the difficulty will be adjustable so it doesn’t get boring too quick. Thanks Kunos!

  • Helldriver

    Can´t wait to test the AI and the improved tire model.

    Keep on the good work, Kunos!

  • Eric S

    Looking forward to testing

  • Rob Gray

    Can’t wait. New tyre model… AI will be interesting but it’s not a big thing for me.

  • Pascal

    AI is nice, but MP is main.

    • Adrian Herrera

      Some people prefer offline, some prefer online.

      I’m pretty sure there’s a bigger percentage of users racing offline than online in most sims, I guess thats why they chose to do AI first.

      Either way, I welcome all updates for AC… Bring it on!

      • Anonymous

        Correct, all you’ve got to do is look at the rFactor 2 servers to see who’s online, the most you’ll get is 3 – 6 or none.

      • Pascal

        And look on rF 1, people are still playing online. I never raced in public servers in rF.

      • fkkamil

        Then check iRacing servers. It is all about atmosphere.

      • Anonymous

        Then again there is no AI in iRacing so it’s not like you have an option.

  • Jos

    nice, now if they if fix the external reverb thingy replays will be sweet to listen too.

  • Paul Mackenzie

    Can’t wait to give it a go! They are rolling it out the way I expected them to by not giving the ‘full monty’ and that for me is just perfect as in the long run we will get more solid AI quicker.

  • Anonymous

    It’s the 17th- where is it then? Lol

  • Chris Wright

    Looking forward to this would be a huge understatement.

  • Cristianfx

    we dont need everything perfect, just give us something to keep playing and keep working as normal! really great :D

  • SKID

    Can the developers tell about finacial situation of AC’s development? I’ll be happy if they’ll say that they’re have enough or nearly that money (from Steam’s early access crowdfunding etc.) to constantly develop AC with their knowledge, skills and passion!

    • Realkman666

      Be vaguely positive and excited or shut up.

      • SKID

        Lol wtf? I’m positive about AC, negative man

      • Realkman666

        You need to be without any compromise or question. It’s a religious thing, mang.

      • Anonymous

        you do the latter please.

    • Ma Ed

      How is their financial situation anyone’s business?

      Why would that “make you happy” ?
      It has nothing to do with you or anyone. Of course we all wish for them do well and we tell them best of luck but it should stop there.

      Since when do we feel entitled enough that they “need to tell us” ?

      • SKID

        I didn’t say “need to tell us”.
        But talking with community is a big plus for developers, especially when they ask us to pay now if we want more better product. And Dev Blog is not enough imho

  • GamerMuscle

    Obviously kunos have there own development priorities, but personally I’d rather have Multi player.

    I’m sure kunos will do a good job on the AI and I can see the mass market appeal of AI racing but in the end for me I need to be racing real people , I cannot think of any game in any genre where AI were more enjoyable to play against than people.

    Though in many ways you have to get multiplayer near perfect first time out of the gate or people assume the net-code is always broken even when its of a good quality and more an issue of people playing with awful connections.

    • Anonymous

      Shut it down, guys! This guy up here wants Multiplayer! Get rid of the AI and start work on Multiplayer. No AI this weekend, boys!!

      • GamerMuscle

        To right , they need to format all their C: drives its the only course of action.

        I already shredded my Disk that had AC on it and threw it in the north sea.

      • Anonymous

        *yawn*

      • GamerMuscle

        I’m sorry :(

  • Anonymous

    THANKS KS…… Sounds Great. One ???? will this update include a new track?????

  • Kev

    Wait a minute! New tire model. Now THAT’s interesting!

    • Realkman666

      Why? Is it that bad?

      • Anonymous

        No it isn’t bad. It’s great as it is. But I don’t think it’s a “new” tyre model, just improvements. There is a difference.

      • Kev

        Not at all. It’s great to know they don’t consider it done because there is clearly more work to do.

  • Anonymous

    i really cannot get my head around peoples obsession with AI, and wanting to play against AI. Seriously – someone here, please explain it to me.
    I used to play against AI….up until I had broadband. Until then, you needed AI, because you could not play against lots of real people online, and even the thought of that didnt exist in my head. So I happily played against AI.

    AI today has barely improved from pre broadband days. Even in the most aggressive settings, they are dim witted and provide 0 challenge. I simply cannot understand from ANY angle, why you’d want to play against AI.

    So someone, please, explain it to me.

    • Marcel

      Never played rFactor2 with AI?

    • Anonymous

      Basically there are 3 reasons I think:

      1. People who have slow/poor internet connections (you sorta answered this yourself).

      2. People who don’t have time to race online (for whatever reason), I.e. They just want to be able to jump into a 5 lap race on whatever car/track they want.

      3. They want to do a race that is not “practical” online, e.g. I’ve done 24 hour races on GTR2 using the “save” feature, but even without a save feature a 2 hour race can easily be done in one sitting, and it is unusual to find such a race online (without joining a league or something).

      For me, reasons 2 and 3 usually apply.

      Also, when you mention the career mode – you talk about it as if AC isn’t getting one, but I thought it was?

      • Anonymous

        Assetto Corsa will have a career mode.

    • Anonymous

      Basically there are 3 reasons I think:

      1. People who have slow/poor internet connections (you sorta answered this yourself).

      2. People who don’t have time to race online (for whatever reason), I.e. They just want to be able to jump into a 5 lap race on whatever car/track they want.

      3. They want to do a race that is not “practical” online, e.g. I’ve done 24 hour races on GTR2 using the “save” feature, but even without a save feature a 2 hour race can easily be done in one sitting, and it is unusual to find such a race online (without joining a league or something).

      For me, reasons 2 and 3 usually apply.

      Also, when you mention the career mode – you talk about it as if AC isn’t getting one, but I thought it was?

    • David Wright

      I tried online racing. I found the AI were far better than most human racers. The AI could make it around the first corner without going off. They didn’t drop out in the first few laps of a 10 lap race because they weren’t winning. They didn’t drive backwards around the track. Of course I’m talking about pickup races, but league racing really ties you down as to when you race.

    • Ioannis

      Let me put it that way, a great AI is better than the average MP.
      I love MP in LFS but there are only specific car/track combos where usulaly can find quality competition. With AI i can race anything i want anytime.
      -with AI you control the competition
      -you can create Your custom cups, mixed grid
      -Practice for MP without causing trouble to others
      -Unlimited times at anytime
      -more i cant think right now..
      Of course MP is important for so many reasons. keeps the community strong, can teach you race attitude and dicipline, share knowledge and more.
      Personaly when i am thinking about AI i think about LFS the great time i had there, and i imagine what if Kunos can make AI even better? what if he can give us something like we never seen before, just like the AC project did? We already know how is MP we know we are going to get it, it’s the AI we don’t have any idea.
      Regards

    • Marshall

      Because sometimes people just suck :)

    • Anonymous

      No insults from male racers
      No purposely ramming you off track from male racers
      No snide remarks, from male racers, for not being male & playing racing sims, that they consider only guys should be playing, need I go on.

      • Marshall

        Oh yeah, and there’s what she said too.

      • justahead

        That’s so lame. The community should be more inclusive. Keep racing, melanieuk!

      • Pascal

        You have to play with people you know or in leagues, that’s what I do.

      • Michael Hornbuckle

        My lobby will always be “female friendly” but it looks kinda perved if listed as that in a server browser.

      • GamerMuscle

        1) why would you care what other people say
        2) how would they know you have a vagina ?
        3) I don’t know any gamers that think women should not play games

        Obviously sexism exists , obviously many penis people will say or react funny when a vagina person is around in a hobby they don’t see many vagina people in , the solution is to suck it up and power through the BS / call people out when they are being idiots but not be drawn into it.

        So really having a vagina and the possibility of some sim-racers being idiots to vagina people, is not a valid reason to avoid racing on-line.

      • Traumahound

        … so excercise your gamer muscle, then?

        Also, to answer #2, mosy people would guess she has a vagina if she’s using a typically female username, not so? : )

      • GamerMuscle

        Just use a fictional name , for example I’m a morbidly obese British guy with bad teeth. But my user name gives the impression that I am a somewhat camp man with a small penis.

        If I had a vagina and If I could be bothered, I would probably find creative ways to troll sexist/chauvinistic idiots and make an amusing video out of it.

      • John Karagiannis

        Fancy your analysis. Where did you study sociology? Just kiddin’

      • Skytrill

        I understand your problem but it shouldn’t hold you from enjoying online
        races. You could take an unisex nickname and fool these tards.

    • Anonymous

      wait a sec, i’ll explain it in detail to you. just wait here, be right back…

    • Juhan Voolaid

      I am quite bad driver, so AI is good training for me. Keeps me interested. 0 challenge is for the very best I believe.

    • Pablo Coronel

      Because with AI you can play anytime without must wait for collect five pals to race or jump into any public room and find the usual moron who run in reverse.

      Also, says me that you beat easily the 120% AI in rF2.

      • GamerMuscle

        Though you can put AI on whenever you want the quality is traditionally so pore with AI that brakes in strange places make unrealistic moves and simply lacks human personalities and sensitivities you are not really racing when you are racing AI.

        Who knows maybe AC AI will be really solid if so that would be fantastic but it will still be incomparable to the experience of playing against real people.

        ALSO Steam friends should make it allot easer to join and get races going with a group of friends :) for fun pick up races or track sessions.

      • Pablo Coronel

        Of course, is always better to beat a human than an AI, but due to the dutys some of us cant race against them, also, i just have three friends in Steam lol

    • Olivier Prenten

      To be honest I’m just waiting the multi player to be implemented! ;)

    • Robert Gödicke

      I actually don’t race against AI myself, but I can see why some people do. For me, personally, I’d say the actual racing experience is like this:

      League Racing > Proper Public MP > AI Race > Regular Public MP

      A lot of people don’t want to race in leagues, for multiple reasons. They don’t have the time to train that much for the next race. They are not competitive enough (yet). They only met unfriendly people in leagues so far (when joining the wrong leagues obviously). The list is endless.

      But the point is, Public Multiplayer isn’t the best solution after that, and I can see why. 9 out of 10 times it’s a crashfest, and you get absolutely no joy out of it. Doesn’t matter if you’re involved in the massive accident in turn 1 or if you are 20 seconds in the lead after the first lap. No joy. So you better stick to racing the AI where you can have a full field which will usually get past turn 1. But this is only for people who are mainly looking for some fun for the sake of racing. Racing the AI is not competitive and you can’t train properly with it for a race against real individuals.

      If you are a very experienced, fast and consistent racer, you probably get no joy racing the AI. Their predictiveness is the biggest drawback there is. No human opponent will act/react like the AI does. In some Endurace races with really good drivers the fight for a position can go for hours, and not just against the clock, I’m talking wheel to wheel. This is simply not possible with the AI, because after a few laps you know exactly where they are braking (usually waaaaaaaay too early), when they turn into a corner and so on. Then, the “overtake 3 or more opponents per lap” session starts. And yes, if you are a really fast driver, the 120% AI in rFactor 2 is not a challenge if you are experienced with the car/track combo.

      So I believe a lot of people who simply don’t have the time or don’t want to take simracing too serious, they probably prefer AI over Public Multiplayer because the races are usually cleaner.

      • Anonymous

        good. I want to expand on a few of your points:
        “A lot of people don’t want to race in leagues, for multiple reasons.
        They don’t have the time to train that much for the next race. They are
        not competitive enough (yet). They only met unfriendly people in leagues
        so far (when joining the wrong leagues obviously). The list is endless.”

        “So I believe a lot of people who simply don’t have the time or don’t
        want to take simracing too serious, they probably prefer AI over Public
        Multiplayer because the races are usually cleaner.”

        I disagree that its as black and white as this. I am a quick, competitive simracer, in the top 10%. But I do NOT want to race in leagues which are time consuming and ultimately about practising and doing hundreds of boring laps, changing the setup about 50 times, its BS that i can’t be bothered with. I simply want to jump in and race against other people, preferably in a fixed setup environment.

        This notion of public MP being a crash fest is flawed though. Last time I was on the megane servers on RF2 it was, for the most part, fine, and I had some excellent races with people at the front who could do competitive laps. There is a very wide distribution of skill, but I only need 1 or 2 people who are also in the top 10% to have a fun competitive race with, and normally, you find them.

        Back in LFS, I had amazing fun on the SR racing servers, where frequently admins would ban the blatant crashes, and it was easily the best time i’ve had in simracing. 8 lap races with a pitstop, it was intense.

        Same with GTREvo, and the 100Mbit servers, which had forums where people could post videos or evidence of crashers, or could complain, and they would get banned via their SteamID.

        I disagree with you about having Either or, either having ‘professional’ league racing where theres rules and regs and its organised, or having a ‘crashfest’ in public MP. The evidence from what i’ve experienced does not bear this out.

        Of course there will be crashers in public MP and there always will be, but they generally get weeded out.

        Setting up servers properly i.e. having short, 6-8 lap races, increases the frequency of races, and this gives people the chance to LEARN to drive in a race environment, learn to drive with other people.

        And if you do get taken out in the first lap by a random oddball? It doesn’t matter, you only have to wait 6-10 minutes for the server to refresh.

        So for these people who don’t want to take simracing ‘seriously’, as you say in your last paragraph, well. I believe the majority of us are clean simracers, from what i’ve witnessed, just with very different abilities, and all that matters is lots of races and the ability to jump in and play.

      • TouringProSeries.com

        If you say you cannot be bothered with the ‘BS’ that is practice, then let me assure you, you are not in the top 10% of simracers.

      • Anonymous

        great, another person whose comprehension skills are severely lacking.
        1. youve assumed that i havent practised in the past.
        2. youve assumed that all people who are quick enjoy practising.

        did i say that i hadnt practised in the past? anywhere?

        from the various leagues ive competed in over the years and based on the stats that the tracker in AC is accumulating, im pretty confident in saying that out of a 1000 sim racers around the world i would easily be in the top 100.
        I stopped racing in leagues because i found the amount of practice required was just tedious and dull. Hence….i cannot be bothered with it.

    • Adrian Herrera

      You can’t understand why people would want to play against AI?

      So you can’t understand why people play video games at all! Did you ever play Super Mario Bros? Did you not have fun unless the turtles and the mushrooms where controlled by real people over the internet?

      You seem to be a very self centered person if you can’t understand why everybody isn’t like you.

      • Anonymous

        “In my opinion, you seem to be an extremely self centered person if you
        can’t understand why everybody doesn’t think exactly like you..”

        i dont understand how youve come to this conclusion from what ive said. I couldnt understand a very specific thing about a specific game…..i dont see how that bears any resemblance to thinking about other things. Conclusion: invalid statement.

        “You seriously can’t understand why people would want to play against AI?

        So you can’t understand why people play video games at all!”

        ………………..i said……….
        “I could understand it if there was a full on career mode, where you worked up the ranks, from a slow car to a fast one, or something, much like the original Toca Race driver or whatever it was called – i had genuine fun with that. ”

        i.e. a scenario where AI was appropriate.
        Even if i hadn’t said this…..my statements dont apply to entirely different gaming genres. I made statements about AI racing…………as in….in racing games.

        well done.

      • Adrian Herrera

        No dude. You still don’t get it.

        Some people like to play this game *just for fun*. Have easy races where they can win even if they make a few mistakes or are not as fast as you. Just like playing Mario Kart but with realistic graphics and physics and sounds. As a game. Against the computer.

        Get it? Some people are not as competitive as yourself, for example. They like video games as a *game* to play against the computer, like we’ve been doing for years before online gaming became mainstream.

        And it seems to be (I might be wrong) that a big percentage of users do enjoy playing just for fun, at the time they want and to have the option to restart the race if they mess up, etc.

        Different people like different things. Do you understand what I am trying to say?

      • Anonymous

        i dont see what fun can be had from playing against something thats so unchallenging……i thought i made that clear in my original post.

        that is my point….the AI is not challenging for it to be fun. Do you understand this?

        if you’re treating this simracing games, as games, then as games, they are utterly dull and boring compared to something like mario kart.

        hence my example of Toca race driver, which had a proper career mode, and did end up being fun, despite racing against AI.

        I dont see how more clear i can be. goodbye.

      • Adrian Herrera

        This is the first line of you roriginal post:

        ——–

        i really cannot get my head around peoples obsession with AI, and wanting to play against AI. Seriously – someone here, please explain it to me.

        ——-

        All I am doing it trying to explain it to you as you asked.

        Now you say this:
        —-

        that is my point….the AI is not challenging for it to be fun. Do you understand this?
        —–

        Yes. Ok. Now, for the last time. I understand that **for you** the AI must be super difficult in order to have fun. We all get that point. You are super good and you need the most challenging AI that modern technology can create, anything else is not fun. For you. Your personal opinion. Fine.

        My point is simple: Not everyone is like you.

        Some people like easy challenges to have fun. Period. That is all I am trying to explain. We are all different.

    • Anonymous

      It’s pretty simple: People Suck

    • me

      I don’t like MP because there is a lot of competition in real life: for a school, a woman, a job position, business things etc. The whole life is a non stop competition.
      If like to relax and have a little bit fan I don’t want to compete with real people again and AI is a perfect solution.

    • Mario Strada

      Simple: immediacy, ability to build fields of various sizes, practice for online racing, recreating races from the past easily and several more.
      A well implemented AI makes the game more useful and attracts those that dislike having to plan for online racing.

      Personally, I prefer MP with real drivers, of course, but I expect either a good AI or at least good enough participation in practice by other drivers.

  • Anonymous

    Good news! How does it compare to X-Motor Racing Pro with its perfect physics model?

    • Anonymous

      Are you serious? X – Motor Racing isn’t any good, all the vehicles are ripped from rfactor and other racing sims, there are no license tracks or cars, the physics are not good at all, the driver & vehicle animation is poor, ask yourself this question, why are none of the popular simracing sites, like Race Department, VirtualR, Bsimracing, Sim new daily, Inside simracing, Race sim central to name a few not covering X-Motor Racing.

      • Anonymous

        Yep, X Motor Racing for modding is very easy because it has good modding tools.

  • speed1

    Improved tire model is by far the most intresting here. Nice to see some competitor on track as AI as well. The boring ride seems to take an end more and more. I like the developemet style with AC. Very organized and controlled. Professionell work, i just can say. Thnx Guys and i hope the Multiplayer isn’t that far away as well.

  • damys

    what cars/tracks are coming in this update?

    • Anonymous

      According to FaceBook the BMW 1series M Coupe

      • damys

        only?

      • Pablo Coronel

        The article says “Alongside the first look at the AI, the new version will introduce some new cars and other features like an improved tire model as well.”
        so….

  • Anonymous

    Where did my freekin comment go?!? Well, i’ll reenforce it just in case, taste of AI, magnificent…new car, very good…new tire model, FANTASTIC! Keep it coming like this way, and you sure will BLOW the competition..THANKS

    • Pablo Coronel

      Maybe i miss it, but, wich new car?

      Edit: i just spot it, maybe a GTR?

      • Robert Gödicke

        I think a BMW 1M Coupe is coming.

      • Pablo Coronel

        Nice :)

  • Toto

    Knowing that AI is a hell to debug, this solution is very good. Well done guys ! (again)

  • Wally Masterson

    The first Kunos AI will be interesting, that’s for sure. I hope the fps hit isn’t too great.

    • Anonymous

      So far everything seems it will be good.

  • joe

    Funny while at the same time, RRE still doesnt have AI, multi and was out for more than one year and got a bigger team, cash etc

  • greg southall

    After playing sims off-line with AI (mixed results), with Assetto I am truly looking forward to the implementation of both AI and MP, the reason? because on the strength of what Kunos have delivered so far, why wouldn’t we?. AC is stirring up excitement for me that RF2, RE3/DTM, iracing, simply haven’t (some with their strengths and other with their weaknesses). Kunos, are on the right track on all fronts so far! and here’s hoping that they continue with successful AI and MP. AC will for me, be the first sim to excite me about online MP and I think there will be a the same draw for existing serious online racers on the strength of what Kunos have delivered so far. I tried RF2 late last year on Clio’s but same comment as other posting (have to deal with not serious at all gamers) So, to this end, my question is…..where will this Assetto community exist? on Steam? or other sites like RD? I would like to be part of this crowd.

  • F1Racer

    Downloading now… (rubs hands)

  • Helldriver

    Getting my seat ready….

  • F1Racer

    After a quick go this is what I’ve noticed so far :-

    Good:
    – AI is brilliant from what I can tell. They will defend their line and corner under braking but will try to avoid a collision with you if you shove one up the inside. Not seen one spin out or make a mistake yet but it’s early days. They wont give up just because you get alongside them in a corner either. Good stuff !!
    – Tyre changes seem good. The 1M twitching under braking at the end of the long straight at Magione is very believable.

    Meh:
    – Can only replay the last lap of a Special Event Race. :(((((((((
    – Can’t find a way to get from Practice/Time-Trial mode to the main screen to choose Special Events without quitting and re-launching AC
    – 599XX still has no bonnet in bonnet cam. Hmmm.

  • Anonymous

    cool bananas

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